I finally did it...

[Swellin]

when are you gonna start that var, sometime later this upcoming week probably, right?

Refer to my previous post concerning the possible intervention of certain deities....I am hoping they have been overseeing my package, as it passes through customs. From what I gather...those evil customs monsters might have let it slip by....fingers are still crossed.

[bornbad71]

So your becoming a pin cushion.hahaha

As always it sounds like u have everything in check....to this point have u gottin everything out of your cycle u wanted to? Knowing what u know now, is there anything u would change or have changed?

[Swellin]

Those are excellent questions BB!

As for getting everything out of it I expected...no. I thought I would have gained more strength. Not a big deal though...I would hate to just fall flat on my face when I come off, so huge short term strength increases are not that important. Of course, I should be singing a different tune when the var gets here.

As for what I would have done different...
Jump start with prop (can't go the dbol or drol route).
I blew the diet, and that really affected my gains. I was hoping to add 25 to 30 pounds, and I have no doubt that I would have done it if I had kept my diet on track. As it stands...I look to be 15-20 pounds heavier and around 3% leaner. That roughly translates into about 22-27 pounds of lbm gain...which is not shabby at all.

I would have also given some consideration to my wardrobe. I knew that I would be getting bigger, but I had no idea that it would drastically change the fit of my clothes. I have a Ralph Lauren Leather coat that I wore New Year's Eve...that I can't wear now. I have some really nice merino wool shirts that look like spandex now. I use to love Bananna Republic...now I can't fit into anything they make. They truly cater to the thinner and slimmer crowd. I have some expensive suits that don't fit anymore (but luckily I have an excellent tailor...maybe they can alter them to fit).

With the dbol...you need to start thinking ahead about your wardrobe as well!

[scottninpo]

get a load of this guy, he gains at least 20 lean pounds and is bitching that he should've gained more!

[Da Bull]

get a load of this guy, he gains at least 20 lean pounds and is bitching that he should've gained more!

True...but lets see when the smoke clears how much he'll keep.

As for the clothes situation.I have 3 sets of duplicates on everything.1 for bulking,1 for starting to cut,and 1 for being cut.The price tag on the wardrobe is well in excess of 15k......but that's the price you pay for this lifestyle.


Keep kicking ass bro...and start spending time in the lab.You can make your gear at half the price.

Be Cool

DB

[Swellin]

get a load of this guy, he gains at least 20 lean pounds and is bitching that he should've gained more!

While you are right to ridicule....I had dellusions of grandeur..30 pounds or so. I guess that means that I ned to run a nother bulker.

True...but lets see when the smoke clears how much he'll keep.

You bastard! Already hexing me...before I start pct.

As for the lab...you got that right! I plan on going that route next time.

You mentioned the wardrobe....I've got about a third of what you mentioned in hunting clothes alone that I won't be able to wear next year. My wife already hates Cabelas...looks like I will be giving her even more reason to hate them.
I don't ever plan on "being cut." I can't diet that effectively...and really have no need to get that shreaded. This means that I only need two sets of clothes instead of three...bulking and...not bulking. Realistically,I never expect to see anything under 10%...if that.

[Da Bull]

Fuk..I had a long post,but the server went down.And I refuse to rewrite it.

In short,you need to cut down bro to see how much muscle you put on.Not putting a hex on you,but you really should do it.Staying at 13-14% bf is hard to really tell.Those bf monitors aren't the most acturate things.I don't need to be cut either,but I want to see were my money and hard work went and need to know the results.

Anyway..clean up the diet and hit the weights hard..to complete failure every rep,that spurts growth bro.

[TheOak182]

Good Luck!!!

[Da Bull]

I was looking over this again..I'm not convinced you'll put on 22-27#'s of muscle mass,especially since your diet was off.Not to say your bull crapping,but your cycle was short and you ran into other problems as well.I'd swallow 17-19 though respectively.And that's real nice gains..very respectable!!!

[bornbad71]

Thanks for answering my questions Swellin.....I guess we as human beings always expect more some times....I wish u would have run your diet alittle cleaner and more thorough, but I know u have learned a lot from this cycle and will use that to your advantage next time....I think your size gains are awesome and u should be happy with what u have gotten from this cycle.

I'm not real sure how y'all are getting the lean muscle numbers, but I am not watching the scales all that much(but with u adding weight and droppin bf at the same time things are going in the right direction, congrads)....I have learned this over the yrs of training...I am my own worst critic and when I can see size gains from wk to wk then something is going in the right direction....maybe I need to pay more attention to numbers as far as lean muscle mass goes, but if I look like I'm growing then I'm pretty sure I am, since I'm so hard on myself. Sorry for rambling on and on, as always good luck with the rest of your cycle and continue to give it hell in the gym.

[Swellin]

As for the lean mass, that figure comes form your weight and your body fat. Multiply you bf by your weight, and that is how much lard you are carrying. Later check the new bf and weight...do the same thing again. You will see how many pounds of fat you have. If this number is constant or drops and you are gaining weight...you know it is quality weight.

DB, I have decided to cut down during this next 6-8 weeks. I will only be running prop and var. I will add in the clen /eca stcak. Unfortunately, the cardio equipment at my gym (the stationairy bike) is broken beyond repair. I know they won't buy a new one. The treadmill is such a piece of sh!t that it is far too dangerous to use. At least the weather is cooperating and I can start back playing tennis for cardio.

I don't plan on checking my bf again until after this cycle is over. We'll see what happens then.

What a feeling! The deca is all but gone from system. The test e is still there and I am running 75mg prop ed. I actually feel the test now. Judging by the way I feel, I might have to rethink my feelings about deca. The joint support was great...the rest of it was not!

[Swellin]

Real short update here.....I just did my first trap injection. It feels very similar to the first bi injection I did...not too good. This sucks...but I think I will manage. I know the first one hurts the most...so we'll see.

[scottninpo]

Real short update here.....I just did my first trap injection. It feels very similar to the first bi injection I did...not too good. This sucks...but I think I will manage. I know the first one hurts the most...so we'll see.

i got this butt massager from homedics, and did a prop injection in the glute, and sat on the massager for about an hour and 12 hours later, no pain at all! i know you're still afraid of you're own ass, so this probably won't help you at all

[Da Bull]

Want cardio..start a fina cycle.....you'll be chasing cars all day long,and if they get out,you have boxing practice too....lol

[Swellin]

Well, you just finished making a bunch...send some up my way. Then I'll just chase cars with you.

Oh yeah...you still howling at the moon and pissing off the neighbors?

[Da Bull]

Well, you just finished making a bunch...send some up my way. Then I'll just chase cars with you.

Oh yeah...you still howling at the moon and pissing off the neighbors?

I'll send you some....Im going to make another 80 mls..so I'll send you some of that ,free of charge of course.

Only have 200mls of fina now,and that's personal stash.

Don't even ask for the EQ home brew

[Swellin]

That's my bro!

You didn't answer the part about howling at the moon.

[johnsomebody]

Hey bro, you've had awesome results so far from your stats! That's fantastic. I sure wouldn't be kicking myself over those kinda results!

Good job bro!

[Swellin]

Thanks a bunch JS!

I am not dissappointed with the results...moreso with my failures in the cycle. With the deca gone, I have dropped a couple of pounds...but it was just water.

We shall see how it goes after this next leg of my cycle.

[Da Bull]

Keep going at it bro.....going away for the weekend.


Kick ass bro.

DB

[bornbad71]

Swellin sounding good as always bro.......aw the traps, and the pain was minimal...I for one will not be shooting QV test e in my traps ...just keep the diet clean while u are leaning out....so u started the var yet?

As for DB, he's moved to singing to the moon and pissing on the neighbors. ........hope ya have a good weekend DB, have fun out of town.

[Swellin]

Time for an update. My shoulder has been a constant problem...so, I worked legs last Monday...came in Tuesday...did three sets on bench and left. I took the rest of the week off.

Monday is leg day...a little something I learned on here (everyother gymbunny thinks it is chest day...this causes mass confusion when there are only two benches). Since I didn't work upper body last week, I did chest tonight. There were some idots in there slamming those 10lb weights on the bar...making tons of racket. Only to bench 165 for 6 reps with horrible form. Since I am one of about 3 folks in the gym that bench over 300 ...it was a bit of a spectacle.
I was really weak last time on chest, but tonight...my last set was 335 for a few reps...with perfect form...stopping for a full count on my chest...not yelling and acting like an idiot.

That was a good feeling.

My weight is down a bit...but I have changed my diet to coincide with my plans to lean out a bit. I am not holding any water, now that the deca is gone.

Prop is really different...it seems to take twice as much prop as it did of enan...just for me to feel like I am on.

Unfortunately, prop is feeding my addiction for injections. Now, I want to take one in the AM & one in the PM...looks like I am headed toward suspension.

Hopefully, the var will be here tomorrow. I started 1 gram of ALA & 1gram of Milk Thistle last Friday. I can't wait to get on this var.

[bornbad71]

Pin Cushion!!!!!!!!!!hahaha

[Swellin]

The var delivery was slowed...some half ass delivery service was used.

Anyway, I am preparing my shot this morning...I draw everything up...run it under hot water for a 20 count...pull back on the plunger so I can change pins...there is water in the cap...I didn't put it on tight enough. So now, I have water in my shot. I think.....okay, I can just skeet this off the top and be good to go...all of a sudden...it hits me.......this is friggin tap water!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, I just shot $6.50 worth of BD prop into the sink. Now I'm pissed! I draw up another one and let it roll.

I go out to my laundry room to iron my clothes (spray them with some de-wrinlker and throw 'em in the drier)....what do I see......the delivery guy brought my var!

YIPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

I sure hope this wasn't draino...I was so excited, I came right in and ate one.

[bornbad71]

Looking forward to see how u respond to the var bro........keep us posted about it.

[Da Bull]

Think your a pin cushion now..wait til the fina gets there.My pecs and delts look like pigmees used me for dart practice.

[Da Bull]

Check your pm...............

[scottninpo]

The var delivery was slowed...some half ass delivery service was used.

yeah, those ups guys have got to get their sh*t together!

[Swellin]

yeah, those ups guys have got to get their sh*t together!

Maybe Dale does need to drive the truck.

[Da Bull]

The var delivery was slowed...some half ass delivery service was used.

Anyway, I am preparing my shot this morning...I draw everything up...run it under hot water for a 20 count...pull back on the plunger so I can change pins...there is water in the cap...I didn't put it on tight enough. So now, I have water in my shot. I think.....okay, I can just skeet this off the top and be good to go...all of a sudden...it hits me.......this is friggin tap water!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, I just shot $6.50 worth of BD prop into the sink. Now I'm pissed! I draw up another one and let it roll.

I go out to my laundry room to iron my clothes (spray them with some de-wrinlker and throw 'em in the drier)....what do I see......the delivery guy brought my var!

YIPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

I sure hope this wasn't draino...I was so excited, I came right in and ate one.

Your married and do your own laundry?What kind of respectable southern women would allow that!!

[Swellin]

Your married and do your own laundry?What kind of respectable southern women would allow that!!

The kind that works 50 hours a week and takes care of our 9 month old. She cleans the house every night and does some laundry. I cook and I hold down furniture. You won't find me bitch!n!

[Da Bull]

ok......just asking.......no offense intended

[Swellin]

ok......just asking.......no offense intended

Hell no! None taken!!!! I just thought it best to brag on her a little...specially while she was watching over my shoulder.

Btw, she is a pharmacist...so her 50 hours are not at cashier wages either.

I thought I would at least get a nice comment on my stellar ability to restrain furniture from unsuspected attempts at fleeing the premisis.

[spywizard]

The difference of a northern woman and a southern woman...

a northern woman will get you a beer...

a southern woman will get the beer, and bring it to you open.... (hope she didn't spit in it)

[Swellin]

Okay, there was a slight delay with the fina...but all is certainly well.
The var is working nicely. Everything, except for my bench, is moving up.

The new gym is awesome! In my old gym, there were only three members that could bench over 315. Today, there were three people with 315 on the bar.....at the same time...doing reps...I was one of them. I have changed my style, and every rep I perform is a powerlifting meet legal rep. So that looked a lot cooler than the other guys that were simply banging away.

My weight is up...I finally reached my mark of 230. This morning, I weighed a whopping 232. I will cut the calorie back a bit, once I start the tren . I will be checking my BF here in a little bit...so I will be able to tell how this stuff works for me.

[bornbad71]

Glad the new gym is working out....sounds like the rest is falling into place as well........good job Swellin and continue to give it hell.

How much u lookin to cut your calories back?

[Swellin]

I'm pretty close to 4k right now....I will probably drop back to 2800 and clean it up tremendously. Right now, I have alot of trash calories going in. I'll keep them until I start the tren ...then I will get nasty about this diet.
Currently, I am eating 6-10 chicken breasts a day. Some days, I add 6 hamburger steak patties. I also indulge the sweet tooth at the worst possible time...night. I have all but cut that out...it will stop this week.
I am bigger than those danm Milano cookies...who are they to tell me to eat them? I will not let them control me!

[Da Bull]

Jeez...with you eating cookies every fuking night and BB71 eating steak and ice cream...I dying here...you guys are killing me

[Swellin]

The benefits of youthful metabolism.

Tonight was my last cookie for quite a while.

[Da Bull]

The benefits of youthful metabolism.

Tonight was my last cookie for quite a while.

Enjoy your youthful metabolism now...in a few years I'll be calling you "KING CARDIO"