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    A few pics of me last night.

    I really hate my body. Im more of an ectomorph and it's so hard to gain more size (even on an average 4000cal/day diet) which im desperately after. I find it so easy to cut up (cardio does wonders) but to actually bulk and increase weight is a nightmare that's getting to me. I suppose stepping on the scales 2-3 times a week isn't helping either.

    The damn camera makes those weird white patches. It's time to get a new one.

    Im currently 5'll and approx 182lbs. I consume about 300-350g protein/day, carb cycle by eatubg 400-500g carbs day 1, 200-300g carbs day 2 and about 100g day 3 and then back again. Fat is usually at around 80-100g/day.

    Any advice, critique on what to bring up (everything; more or less I giess) would be greatly appreciated. Sorry I didn't post the wheels. Next time I suppose.




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    lookin good bro

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    you look good to me

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    yer man looking gd

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    Looks pretty good to me brother.

    What goals are you trying to obtain?

    Previous Cycles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Looks pretty good to me brother.

    What goals are you trying to obtain?

    Previous Cycles?
    Bro's thanks for the replies.

    Well im trying to achieve more of a bodybuilders physique rather than a fitness one. My goal is to get to 200 (ideally 210lbs) lean. Im trying to achieve this goal by summer next year by staying lean throughout rather than adding a tremendous amount of bf, losing my abs and vascularity. It's very hard for me however since I have a small frame to build on.

    I don't know it's confusing. I'll be patient and continue what im doing for the next 3-4 months. If I see no increase in size whatsoever ill have to resort to bulking and perhaps quit the cardio altogether which is something I would rather not do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toenail Juice Z View Post
    Bro's thanks for the replies.

    Well im trying to achieve more of a bodybuilders physique rather than a fitness one. My goal is to get to 200 (ideally 210lbs) lean. Im trying to achieve this goal by summer next year by staying lean throughout rather than adding a tremendous amount of bf, losing my abs and vascularity. It's very hard for me however since I have a small frame to build on.

    I don't know it's confusing. I'll be patient and continue what im doing for the next 3-4 months. If I see no increase in size whatsoever ill have to resort to bulking and perhaps quit the cardio altogether which is something I would rather not do.
    u sed it ur self bro that sounds like what u need to do if ur a hard gainer.

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    you got a nice base bro, you lean and hard. if i were you i would try to bulk up about 25lbs while keeping the bf as low as possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by PT View Post
    you got a nice base bro, you lean and hard. if i were you i would try to bulk up about 25lbs while keeping the bf as low as possible
    That's exactly what I want bro!

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    nice and lean

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    Well youre carb cycling and carbs are not particularly high (especially on day 2 and 3)
    For gaining more weight I would definatelly increase carbs.
    Fat and protein are high enough.

    Maybe increase the overall carb intake, or just increasing a bit on day 2, 3.

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    Looking good...keep it up bro

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    Thanks

    VanTheMan: This could be my mistake. Thanks for the input. i'll try bumping the carbs up a bit.

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    make sure you cut out all cardio if your a hard gainer, eat late an night before bed, and eat, eat, eat.....if you not gaining at 4000 cal a day, maybe bump it up 4500-5000. thats a lot of eating though. Your going to have to sacrafice some of the ab definiion if your want to gain weight..

    looking damn god though man!

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by chitownhoker View Post
    make sure you cut out all cardio if your a hard gainer, eat late an night before bed, and eat, eat, eat.....if you not gaining at 4000 cal a day, maybe bump it up 4500-5000. thats a lot of eating though. Your going to have to sacrafice some of the ab definiion if your want to gain weight..

    looking damn god though man!

    good luck
    Thanks a lot. I'll try upping the carb intake and if that doesn't do it, then I suppose i'll sacrifice the abs. I should also be a bit more patient. Not one of my qualities I suppose.

    And as for the carbs; thank God for oatmeal. I don't think I would ever be able to reach a sufficient carb intake without my oatmeal! Im going to shoot for 1000/600/400. Tomorrow is the 1000gcarb day. I better wake up early!!! Im looking forward to it! Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions, and those that spotted the gyno...Damn you.
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    lookin good, do i see a bit of gyno?

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    Quote Originally Posted by audis4 View Post
    lookin good, do i see a bit of gyno?
    Yep. I've been caught! - right nipple.

    Oh shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toenail Juice Z View Post
    Yep. I've been caught! - right nipple.

    Oh shit.
    looks like your left, our right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray0414 View Post
    looks like your left, our right.
    That is the effect of the mirror. His right is also our right in a mirror.

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    i fort tht but he did say his camera is dodgy so might jus b tht

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    Quote Originally Posted by clockwork_killer View Post
    i fort tht but he did say his camera is dodgy so might jus b tht
    Nope it's gyno. I was hoping no one would notice. Oh well.

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    looking good bro. Needs a little more traps. Good overal mass.
    btw the camera looks like it's melting in the first 2 shots hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towel View Post
    looking good bro. Needs a little more traps. Good overal mass.
    btw the camera looks like it's melting in the first 2 shots hehe
    hehe..it probably is. Puts all these white patches in strange locations. You would think I was trying to hide my watch.

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    looking good bro

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    What cycle caused the gyno?

    And have you tried a reversal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    What cycle caused the gyno?

    And have you tried a reversal?
    92white..thanks ;

    @War

    Well it actually happened back in 2002 when I attempted my first cycle which was I think 30mg/dbol first 4 weeks, deca at some low dose and testosterone enanthate . It was a disaster and a good slap in the face for me. Most of the gains were water and fat.
    I was so eager in gaining as much mass as possible and I had read a lot of info back then that blocking out estrogen could also hinder muscle gains, so I basically let it do it's 'thing'...However, by the time I realized it was too late and I only used nolva during pct which didn't help with the gyno. Oh well I had to learn my lesson the hard way. I was very ignorant and too eager at the time. I should have spent more time on steroid .com (anabolicreview back then).

    About reversal..I don't think anything would do it especially since it's been there for years now, but I have heard about and researched some reversal stories with letrozole but no I havent actually tried it yet. I suppose I should since I have nothing to lose before going under the knife.

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    looking good bro that's about as ripped as I want to be, gaining weight is to easy for me lol you always want what you don't have

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    lookin good... what previous cycles have you taken besides the one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RotorHead View Post
    lookin good... what previous cycles have you taken besides the one?
    That's it and one 14 weeker in April of this year which consisted of 750mg test, and 500mg primobolan depot every 4th day, along with 150mg proviron /ed
    I tried to start the cycle with Anadrol but it just made me feel sick so I stopped it after the first week. I didn't gain much weight, but my body composition changed quite a bit. The fat melted off and I gained a lot of muscle hardness and not an ounce of water. I retained everything. ECA stack was used twice daily at 50/200/300 1 month on, 1 month off. A lot of Greek coffees and early morning cardio on an empty stomach 3 x a week. My diet was clean. Alcohol, all High GI foods/drinks, sugar including fructose from fruits and dairy products were completely eliminated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruwet View Post
    looking good bro that's about as ripped as I want to be, gaining weight is to easy for me lol you always want what you don't have
    We want it all.

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    i have the same porblem . i get ript dead easy but find it hard to bulk..
    r good suff keep it up!

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    Your looking very, very good in my opinion.
    Its funny how nobody is happy with the way they look, or i guess we wouldnt be in the gym.
    Your look now is the look i like, and for me its opposite of u. Easy to gain, tough to stay ripped.
    I would say to spend more time studying and manipulating your diet.
    Anything is possible with dieting. Keep on spending time manipulating your diet until u reach your goals.

    Anyways, You look great brother.

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    Lookin good bro - I'd def up the calories if I were you - just add a double whey shake during the day and a big bowl of nonfat cottage cheese at night (add splenda & vanilla - makes it like dessert) That should get you another5-800 cals. And I'd do workl on your shoulders - delts & traps - especially delts - side raises, front raioses, etc. Seated DB military press too. Your chest & back look great - overall terrific job! Now go eat some more!

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    i dont lik my body either lol=\

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    Thank You

    Imo it's about looking good in clothes as well as out. The ultimate goal for me would be to fill up an XL shirt while being ripped.
    An extra 25lbs or so.

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    you look ****ing sick bro, when i look like you ill stop and take a break

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    Caber will chew that up especially when you want to show off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadream View Post
    Caber will chew that up especially when you want to show off


    You look great man!

    not to hijack but what is Caber???

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHouse View Post
    You look great man!

    not to hijack but what is Caber???
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    I didn't get that either

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