the aftermath

[aussie made]

Check his Instagram but looking at his pics its 2different people.

[aussie made]

And if it is u mate. Nice job. But ur a dick if u think u can get away with saying your natural.

[tigerspawn]

TeachU 2Flyy I’m ribbing you man. Someone already said something about it. I don’t believe anyone is hating on you. Most of us could care less if a picture you posted was a well-known female porn star and you claimed it was you. Then stated that you could bench 500lbs and squat 800lbs. We might ask to see video of you lifting especially if you look like a porn star. Some of us care what pictures you post most of us don’t.

Only thing I care about is that people post accurate information about themselves. If someone makes up stats they are only hurting themselves. Individuals should be as open and honest as they can be in order to receive the post out of this site.

I hope that this site and its members are able to help you in furthering your body building goals. I hope that you don’t allow one thread to cloud your perception of any members.

[MUSCLENUTANT]

You caught me in one of my moods. Oh noooo you again ouch ! ....crazy mike ha


You almost embarrassed me but I know I'm right again. .....cm

You weren't 100% right with me, some truth. But this, you are 100% right, till proven wrong. I have to be honest, and I agree with you on this one. Even as pissed as I was at you. Sorry about all that btw. So relax, I agree with you on this,lol.

[MUSCLENUTANT]

Well said! I know some like literal proof in front of their eyes. Sometimes when things are a little harder to believe, proof is great. Some may be harsh with their feedback, but it all has good, honest intention behind it.

[crazy mike]

Well said! I know some like literal proof in front of their eyes. Sometimes when things are a little harder to believe, proof is great. Some may be harsh with their feedback, but it all has good, honest intention behind it.

I'm out of here for good. I just dropped in again. But notice the blurr and it's the same poses. What about a new pose, hand upo or something. I did my best and I made my apology if anyone was offended. But not believeable for me. ...crazy mike

[MUSCLENUTANT]

that is the most photoshopped peace sign ever



grab my strong hand child!

lol, my thoughts exactly! crazy mike asked me what I thought, he didn't catch the fingers in the peace sign, but I did! I'm not trying to be degrading, but, damn at least make a photoshopped pic more believable and not so obvious!

[MUSCLENUTANT]

I'm out of here for good. I just dropped in again. But notice the blurr and it's the same poses. What about a new pose, hand upo or something. I did my best and I made my apology if anyone was offended. But not believeable for me. ...crazy mike

you quoted my response, so are you now referring to my pic, or are we still talking about the photoshopped pic that this thread is about?

[MUSCLENUTANT]

This is stupid, I have other things to do kid. If you can get me a pic of you that body with the peace sign in the next thirty, I stand to be right. Be cool good luck with your, big arms. ...crazy mike

What do ya think MUSCLENUTANT ? ....crazy mike

photoshopped! look at the fingers in the peace sign, a little long, and unreal, even if caught during movement. just still doesn't fit, something still looks incredibly off, other than just the peace sign, hmm...

[auswest]

Bad photoshop is bad.....

[MUSCLENUTANT]

Bad photoshop is bad.....

yep. my pics might not show a great body, but at least they are real, and not adjusted at all.

[MUSCLENUTANT]

I disagree with this statement. The only time I ever measured my arm was because I wanted an accurate blood pressure reading. When I took my BP it was always well WNL. Every time clinic would take my BP it was always high. The reason for the high reading was because my arm is 4 inches bigger than recommended size of regular adult cuff.

I said most not all, It's fine if you disagree. I just know I'm constantly asked my measurement, so I keep track of an accurate measurement, to track my progress for myself- which I do with all my measurements anyway, and so I can provide it, when asked. I see your point, and it's well taken.

[MUSCLENUTANT]

the first year I ever worked out with weights I exploded

I agree with that, it's known as beginner's gains. I just see what other people are such as the peace sign.

[crazy mike]

you quoted my response, so are you now referring to my pic, or are we still talking about the photoshopped pic that this thread is about?

I just stopped back this am. My comments are all about OP not you. That's old crap ....cm

[MUSCLENUTANT]

I just stopped back this am. My comments are all about OP not you. That's old crap ....cm

Cool, good to know we're on the same page

[OnTheSauce]

as i sit here i did a normal front bicep flex and it was 16 in.. with a pump im not sure.. and no im 20

Now I know you're full of it. At 6'1, 16" arms don't look big. Im 5'11 with 18" pumped arms and yours are quite a big bigger than mine. That pic is 19" arms and lean.

Ignore weird room. At future inlaws

Here is a pic this morning, 17.5" cold. You're trying to tell my arms are 1.5" bigger than yours? And you're taller.

[kelkel]

Personally I never saw the point in measuring anything. Well maybe one thing...

[OnTheSauce]

Personally I never saw the point in measuring anything. Well maybe one thing...

Good way to measure progress. We see ourselves in the mirror everyday and wont notice little changes. U may feel u haven gained anything, but measurements show a 1/2 in gain. Etc

[RipOwens]

Now I know you're full of it. At 6'1, 16" arms don't look big. Im 5'11 with 18" pumped arms and yours are quite a big bigger than mine. That pic is 19" arms and lean.

Ignore weird room. At future inlaws

Here is a pic this morning, 17.5" cold. You're trying to tell my arms are 1.5" bigger than yours? And you're taller.

<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138244"/>

Glad u told us it's ur in-laws...a lot wicker going on there!

[EKFitness]

to this without gear!?

[OnTheSauce]

And in a year.

[TeachU_2Flyy]

you all would be surprised what eating clean and working out hard can do and maybe with the help of good genetics i dont see how it isnt possible.. just because somenes is more muscular than u DOES NOT mean they are steroid .. jus seems like a lotta hate imo ppl sayin the peace sign is photoshopped and this and that sounds to me like no one wants to believe that there is someone out there bigger than them with less experience and natural.. which is just sad really

[TeachU_2Flyy]

to this without gear!?

and actually if u look at it on instagram it only took 39 weeks haha

[TeachU_2Flyy]

ill even take pics 4 when i just woke up and feel flat as ever it doesnt even matter.. and i switched to my left arm or does that peace sign look photoshopped as well??

[OnTheSauce]

you all would be surprised what eating clean and working out hard can do and maybe with the help of good genetics i dont see how it isnt possible.. just because somenes is more muscular than u DOES NOT mean they are steroid.. jus seems like a lotta hate imo ppl sayin the peace sign is photoshopped and this and that sounds to me like no one wants to believe that there is someone out there bigger than them with less experience and natural.. which is just sad really

Im not hating. Mirin your physique. You assume we don't eat clean and work hard? Lol. YOU don't realize what is possible naturally. You expect ppl to believe u put on 50lbs of muscle while shedding fat. Naturally. In 9 months. You better start cycling, you'll be a pro by next february and win the 2014 olympia

[TeachU_2Flyy]

no no no i actually lost a bunch of weight.. january 1st 2012 i weighed 255 lbs

[OnTheSauce]

Yeah but your fat picture doesn't have anywhere close to the amount of muscle u have now. Id love you to stick around the forum and help out. You obviously eat and train properly. Post your diet in the nutrition section and help some people. Jus posting in member pictures bragging and claiming natty isn't beneficial to anyone. Nobody is going to believe you. So let's quit the arguing and bs. Its pointless.

[TeachU_2Flyy]

Yeah but your fat picture doesn't have anywhere close to the amount of muscle u have now. Id love you to stick around the forum and help out. You obviously eat and train properly. Post your diet in the nutrition section and help some people. Jus posting in member pictures bragging and claiming natty isn't beneficial to anyone. Nobody is going to believe you. So let's quit the arguing and bs. Its pointless.

truuuu..lol you all prolly wouldnt believe my diet either

[< <Samson> >]

Well, OP seems to be OP.


But, just come legit with the sauce u used.

About 500mg of sust, maybe some Tren and handfuls if var. < sounds about right 2 me.

[cj111]

I wish I had this kind of time on my hands to dispute peoples pictures

[EKFitness]

I wish I had this kind of time on my hands to dispute peoples pictures

you do, you just spend it on here in different places lol

[MUSCLENUTANT]

ill even take pics 4 when i just woke up and feel flat as ever it doesnt even matter.. and i switched to my left arm or does that peace sign look photoshopped as well??

yeah,man it does. as well as you fingers holding the cam. Or you got some weird, abnormally long, boney skeletal looking fingers.

[< <Samson> >]

If someone goes through this much work to post up fake pics they really have some deep inner issues. Just saying. . . . . . .

[MUSCLENUTANT]

If someone goes through this much work to post up fake pics they really have some deep inner issues. Just saying. . . . . . .

I agree, those fingers are just really freaky, and unreal looking!

[kelkel]

you all would be surprised what eating clean and working out hard can do and maybe with the help of good genetics i dont see how it isnt possible.. just because somenes is more muscular than u DOES NOT mean they are steroid.. jus seems like a lotta hate imo ppl sayin the peace sign is photoshopped and this and that sounds to me like no one wants to believe that there is someone out there bigger than them with less experience and natural.. which is just sad really

First. I initially was giving you the benefit of the doubt with your pics and statements. I think that's about done. That transformation in 39 weeks au-natural? Not happening. I've been around the block way more than you and quite honestly I now think you're only here for self-aggrandizement. It doesn't seem that you're here to help anyone, learn anything or otherwise contribute to anything other than stroking your own ego. You have a good physique, but don't come here and make comments like the one in bold above. It's quite offensive. As if you're the only one that knows how to train and eat. Really?

Walk on-stage, win a handful of large shows then maybe you could talk that way. But hopefully you'd have amassed some humility by then. That said. I sincerely suggest you tone it down a bit and work toward fitting in and being a part of this great community, if you plan on staying. If not, join another forum as there are plenty out there. Even you can learn from the collective membership of this forum.

I hope you choose the right path.

[crazy mike]

Well Kel I would post your quote back but you said it right. I was having trouble as you may have witnessed with my patience and couldn't gather my thoughts. I agree we all need and most do, focus on what we come here to accomplish. The lounge we have some laughs. But we help each other out. WE share our experiences, our strengths as well as our hopes for us and all the rest. Showing off should be done as a teaching tool. Also it can be useful to show ourselves and get a few compliments for self-esteem as well as to humbling ourselves and excepting the constructive criticism. WE an share our experience to teach, we can share or criticisms as tool for all of us to learn by.
Thanks Kel for putting it in the correct perspective. ...crazy mike

[TeachU_2Flyy]

First. I initially was giving you the benefit of the doubt with your pics and statements. I think that's about done. That transformation in 39 weeks au-natural? Not happening. I've been around the block way more than you and quite honestly I now think you're only here for self-aggrandizement. It doesn't seem that you're here to help anyone, learn anything or otherwise contribute to anything other than stroking your own ego. You have a good physique, but don't come here and make comments like the one in bold above. It's quite offensive. As if you're the only one that knows how to train and eat. Really?

Walk on-stage, win a handful of large shows then maybe you could talk that way. But hopefully you'd have amassed some humility by then. That said. I sincerely suggest you tone it down a bit and work toward fitting in and being a part of this great community, if you plan on staying. If not, join another forum as there are plenty out there. Even you can learn from the collective membership of this forum.

I hope you choose the right path.

lol i said that only after 30 or so comments of people saying im Photoshopping pics and or im lying about being natural.. what would u do?

[TeachU_2Flyy]

Well Kel I would post your quote back but you said it right. I was having trouble as you may have witnessed with my patience and couldn't gather my thoughts. I agree we all need and most do, focus on what we come here to accomplish. The lounge we have some laughs. But we help each other out. WE share our experiences, our strengths as well as our hopes for us and all the rest. Showing off should be done as a teaching tool. Also it can be useful to show ourselves and get a few compliments for self-esteem as well as to humbling ourselves and excepting the constructive criticism. WE an share our experience to teach, we can share or criticisms as tool for all of us to learn by.
Thanks Kel for putting it in the correct perspective. ...crazy mike

i am perfectly fine with criticism of my actual physique.. not a bunch of ppl sayin im lying about steroids and altering pics.. it would be more than willing to give someone advice if they asked but no one has... its been everyone trying to decide what my stack looks like lol i mean c'mon i think i have a right to defend myself and say what i feel..ive posted numerous pics but yet everyone continues to hate and criticize.. i believe i now know why your name is "Crazy" Mike.. just give it a rest and accept facts..

[austinite]

Gear or no gear... there is no photoshop here. The kids pictures are real. So let the photoshop thing go. As for the gear... Nothing more to add to what kelkel said.

[kelkel]

i am perfectly fine with criticism of my actual physique.. not a bunch of ppl sayin im lying about steroids and altering pics.. it would be more than willing to give someone advice if they asked but no one has... its been everyone trying to decide what my stack looks like lol i mean c'mon i think i have a right to defend myself and say what i feel..ive posted numerous pics but yet everyone continues to hate and criticize.. i believe i now know why your name is "Crazy" Mike.. just give it a rest and accept facts..

And that is all that you have done. Ease up. Amazingly it's not all about you. If you have constructive comments then please share them in the appropriate forums. I'm sure there are members you can help and those that can help you as well.