civilian deaths

[singern]

[QUOTE=Mel Gibson]Typical Zionist response, because they kill each other, we can kill them.

QUOTE]

Not at all, the point I made is all about hypocrisy, not permission to kill.
Before you flame you might take the time to read first, I will be happy to help you with the big words.

[Rider]

Its not over till its over....and it's not close to being over. Enjoy the delusions as long as possible...

Arabs at least contributed in science (mathematics etc) let's see Israel's contribution.....masturbation

[Kärnfysikern]

Arabs at least contributed in science (mathematics etc) let's see Israel's contribution.....masturbation

Uhm your kidding right? Anyone denying that israel is one of the countries developing cutting edge technology is blind to reality.

Now if you mention arab contributions to science. What about jewish countribution to science.

Einstein, bethe, weinberg, bohr, born, feynman, landau, pauli, oppenheimer, teller. heck the list just gones on and one and that is just the physcisists.

One out of five nobel lauerates are jewish. Thats a pretty ****ing huge acomplisment when they are like 0.5% of the world population.

[Rider]

Uhm your kidding right? Anyone denying that israel is one of the countries developing cutting edge technology is blind to reality.

Now if you mention arab contributions to science. What about jewish countribution to science.

Einstein, bethe, weinberg, bohr, born, feynman, landau, pauli, oppenheimer, teller. heck the list just gones on and one and that is just the physcisists.

I am not kidding at all, TODAY indeed Israel develops some cutting edge technology but I am speaking about their past! tell me where were they in 500 BC? in 1000 AD? Show me their accomplishments in science, art etc...they were zero ,nothing they were only good in making some money lol
As about the other thing you said Einstein was a brilliant mind no question about it

[Kale]

I just did a search on the Hellenic Rebublic. Dude you guys have one hot looking Minster for Foreighn Affairs. Especially for 50 !!! Damn !!!! http://www.mfa.gr/www.mfa.gr/en-US

[Kärnfysikern]

I am not kidding at all, TODAY indeed Israel develops some cutting edge technology but I am speaking about their past! tell me where were they in 500 BC? in 1000 AD? Show me their accomplishments in science, art etc...they were zero ,nothing they were only good in making some money lol
As about the other thing you said Einstein was a brilliant mind no question about it

Im not diminishing arab contributions to science. That would be stupid. But what does it matter what israel did 1000AD when they are doing alot today?

1000 years ago europe was in the dark ages while the middle east prospered. Does that mean arabs have contributed more to science than europeans?
You seemed to try and diminish israeli contributions to science and I dont se the need for that since there is no base for it.
Contributions made today are just as important as contributions made 1000 years ago.

[singern]

Note to Rider Part 1


Jewish Nobel prise winners

1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer
2001 - Imre Kertesz
2005 - Harold Pinter
World Peace
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
1995 - Joseph Rotblat

Chemistry
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1972 - William Howard Stein
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Herbert Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1989 - Sidney Altman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
2004 - Avram Hershko, Aaron Ciechanover and Irwin Rose
Economics
1970 - Paul Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Arrow
1973 - Wassily Leontief
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel
1994 - John Harsanyi
1997 - Myron Scholes
2001 - Joseph Stiglitz
2001 - George A. Akerlof
2002 - Daniel Kahneman
2005 - Robert Aumann


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Medicine
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff & Paul Ehrlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1947 - Gerty Cori*
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs & Fritz Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob & Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod & Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - David Baltimore & Howard Temin
1976 - Baruch Blumberg
1977 - Rosalyn Sussman Yalow & Andrew V. Schally
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown & Joseph Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen & Rita Levi-Montalcini
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1994 - Alfred Gilman & Martin Rodbell
1997- Stanley B. Prusiner
1998 - Robert Furchgott
2000 - Paul Greengard
2002 - H. Robert Horvitz & Sydney Brenner
Physics
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck & Gustav Hertz
1943 - Otto Stern
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1945 - Wolfgang Pauli
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born#
1958 - Igor Tamm & Il'ja Mikhailovich Frank
1959 - Emilio Segrè
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1963 - Eugene Wigner
1965 - Richard Feynman & Julian Schwinger
1967 - Hans Bethe
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - Leon Cooper
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias & Pyotr Kapitsa
1979 - Stephen Weinberg & Sheldon Glashow
1988 - Leon Lederman & Melvin Schwartz & Jack Steinberger
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992- Georges Charpak
1995 - Martin Perl & Fredrick Reines
1996 - Douglas D. Osheroff & David M. Lee
1997 - Claude Cohen-Tannoudji
2000 - Zhores I. Alferov
2003 - Vitaly Ginzburg & Alexei A. Abrikosov
2004 - H. David Politzer & David Gross

[singern]

Note to Rider part 2

Muslim Nobel prise winners

Nobel Prize in Chemistry
Ahmed H. Zewail, 1999

Nobel Prize in Literature
Naguib Mahfouz, 1988 [1]

Nobel Peace Prize
Anwar El-Sadat, 1978
Yasser Arafat, 1994
Shirin Ebadi, 2003
Mohamed ElBaradei, 2005

Nobel Prize in Physics
Abdus Salam[2], 1979

Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine
none so far [3]

Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics
none so far

[singern]

I am not kidding at all, TODAY indeed Israel develops some cutting edge technology but I am speaking about their past! tell me where were they in 500 BC? in 1000 AD? Show me their accomplishments in science, art etc...they were zero ,nothing they were only good in making some money lol
As about the other thing you said Einstein was a brilliant mind no question about it

Perhaps we should discuss the Arab/Islamic contribution to modern day civilization. Lets see, well theres the great Intellectuals like Osama, and Nasrala, and lets not forget the brilliant political prowess of Ahmadinejad, and Arafat........

Just an observation , you may want to STFU

[Mel Gibson]

The Zionists kill women, the elderly, children, and now cats. But just like the Lebanese people, this cat gets up, bloody. And resists the Zionists aggression.

The Israeli terrorist nazi forces, alleged the cat was working with Hizbollah.

[spywizard]

do not post pics of injured animals...

[Logan13]

Arabs at least contributed in science (mathematics etc) let's see Israel's contribution.....masturbation

Yes they have, but those societies do not exist any longer. What has the middle east contributed to the world in the last 300 years?

[Logan13]

Note to Rider Part 1


Jewish Nobel prise winners

1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer
2001 - Imre Kertesz
2005 - Harold Pinter
World Peace
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
1995 - Joseph Rotblat

Chemistry
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1972 - William Howard Stein
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Herbert Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1989 - Sidney Altman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
2004 - Avram Hershko, Aaron Ciechanover and Irwin Rose
Economics
1970 - Paul Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Arrow
1973 - Wassily Leontief
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel
1994 - John Harsanyi
1997 - Myron Scholes
2001 - Joseph Stiglitz
2001 - George A. Akerlof
2002 - Daniel Kahneman
2005 - Robert Aumann


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Medicine
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff & Paul Ehrlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1947 - Gerty Cori*
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs & Fritz Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob & Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod & Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - David Baltimore & Howard Temin
1976 - Baruch Blumberg
1977 - Rosalyn Sussman Yalow & Andrew V. Schally
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown & Joseph Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen & Rita Levi-Montalcini
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1994 - Alfred Gilman & Martin Rodbell
1997- Stanley B. Prusiner
1998 - Robert Furchgott
2000 - Paul Greengard
2002 - H. Robert Horvitz & Sydney Brenner
Physics
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck & Gustav Hertz
1943 - Otto Stern
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1945 - Wolfgang Pauli
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born#
1958 - Igor Tamm & Il'ja Mikhailovich Frank
1959 - Emilio Segrè
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1963 - Eugene Wigner
1965 - Richard Feynman & Julian Schwinger
1967 - Hans Bethe
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - Leon Cooper
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias & Pyotr Kapitsa
1979 - Stephen Weinberg & Sheldon Glashow
1988 - Leon Lederman & Melvin Schwartz & Jack Steinberger
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992- Georges Charpak
1995 - Martin Perl & Fredrick Reines
1996 - Douglas D. Osheroff & David M. Lee
1997 - Claude Cohen-Tannoudji
2000 - Zhores I. Alferov
2003 - Vitaly Ginzburg & Alexei A. Abrikosov
2004 - H. David Politzer & David Gross

wow, I had no idea. No wonder the arabs hate the Israelis, everyone loves to hate a winner............

[Logan13]

I am not kidding at all, TODAY indeed Israel develops some cutting edge technology but I am speaking about their past! tell me where were they in 500 BC? in 1000 AD? Show me their accomplishments in science, art etc...they were zero ,nothing they were only good in making some money lol

So what? This only proves my point that the arab nations have dwindled in importance over the years. Besides oil and war, what have they done since?

[Mel Gibson]

wow, I had no idea. No wonder the arabs hate the Israelis, everyone loves to hate a winner............

Arabs hate Israelies because of the Nazi Israelies and their treatment of Palestinians and the Nazis in Israel stealing Palestinian land.

[RA]

Tell me. What nationality was Yassir Arafat?

[RA]

Anyone?

[Teabagger]

You need to be banned....again.....you are so filled with hate you can't see anything but blood..............

[RA]

Next question while were waiting..Is palestine an actual place?

[Teabagger]

Wasn't Arafat an Eygptian......child molestor.

[Zeael]

Anyone?

Sharon and Olmert were born in Palestine, since Israel did not exist at that time.

[RA]

Wasn't Arafat an Eygptian......child molestor.

We have a winner..too bad windbag isnt around to hear it..

[RA]

Sharon and Olmert were born in Palestine, since Israel did not exist at that time.

I like the way you answer questions.

[Zeael]

Defense Minister of Israel Amir Peretz, born in Morocco.

Shaul Mofaz born in Iran.

Keep playing this game.

Did Jews fight for Jerusalem? Muslims have fought for Jerusalem with blood for hundreds and thosands of years, and always will.

[Teabagger]

Defense Minister of Israel Amir Peretz, born in Morocco.

Shaul Mofaz born in Iran.

Keep playing this game.

Did Jews fight for Jerusalem? Muslims have fought for Jerusalem with blood for hundreds and thosands of years, and always will.

and his IP...if it continues...post his photo and address...he will really get banned then.

[Zeael]

Next question while were waiting..Is palestine an actual place?

Palestine


1.) When was it founded and by whom?: British Mandate Palestine was created by the League of Nations in 1922 and governorship was mandated to Great Britain. Prior to that Palestine was a part of the Ottoman Empire for over 400 years. After its defeat by the Allies in World War I, the Ottoman Empire was carved up by the Allies into what is now the modern Middle East. The borders of the current nation states in the Middle East were determined after WWI by aBritish and French agreement (the 1916 Sykes-Picot Agreement).

2.) What were its borders? Roughly the same as modern day Israel (including the occupied territories minus the Golan Heights, which is Syrian territory).

3.) What was its capital?: Jerusalem

4.) What were its major cities?:Bethlehem, Nablus, Jenin, Haifa, Beersheba, Hebron, Gaza, Jaffa, Nazareth, Khan Yunis, Ramallah, Qalqilya, Ramle and Tulkarem. (does not include cities destroyed by the Israelis in 1948)

5.) What constituted the basis of its economy?:Agriculture. Many inhabitants were farmers and harvested olive and citrus trees. Olive oil was the main export.

6.) What was its form of government?:Under the British mandate there was a Palestine National Congress that sent delegations to Great Britain, demanding independence.

7.) Palestinian leaders before Arafat? Musa Kazim Pasha al-Husseini was president of the Palestinian National Congress until his death in 1934. Ahmed Shukeiry was the head of the PLO before Arafat.

8.) Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation? The region of Palestine was promised by the British to the Zionists who wanted to establish a Jewish homeland there. The formal British agreement to permit Zionist colonization came in the form of a letter known as the Balfour Declaration on November 2, 1917, which supported creating a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine with the following condition, "it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine." In fact, the British overlooked the interests and approval of the natives of the land, the Palestinians.

9.) What was the language of the country of Palestine? Arabic and Hebrew (although modern day Hebrew is a recent creation; most Jewish immigrants before 1948 spoke Yiddish).

10.) What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine? Islam, a sizable minority of Christians and some Jewish communities. A survey was done showing the distribution of Palestinian and Jewish districts in Palestine in 1945 and was published by the United Nations (http://domino.un.org/maps/m0094.jpg).

11.) What was the name of its currency?:The currency was the Palestine Pound and it was written in Arabic, Hebrew and English. The Palestinian Pound is equal to 1000 mils and was roughly equivalent to the British Pound. Type in "Palestine" on eBay and you will see actual coins for sale similar to the one here (http://www.vestedowl.com/coin.jpg).

12.) Since there is no such country today, what caused Palestine's demise and when did it occur?: On May 15, 1948 when the Jewish immigrants expelled the Palestinian population, destroyed hundreds of their villages/cities, and founded Israel on 78% of the land of Palestine. Palestinians refer to this as the Nakbah or Catastrophe. Transjordan (later named Jordan) then took control of the West Bank and Egypt took over the Gaza Strip. In 1967, Israel attacked the Egyptian airforce, then took control of the remaining 22% of lands in the West Bank, Jerusalem, Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula. The Palestinians in those areas have been living under Israeli military occupation until today.

Source: The Vested Owl (http://www.vestedowl.com/palestinian_view.html)


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The name "Palestine" derives from Palaestinia, the Roman name for the region, and ultimately from the Philistines, who occupied much of it during Old Testament times.

Jews, Christians, and Muslims all inhabited Jerusalem in relative harmony until "the Crusades" [1] (http://www.library.cornell.edu/colld...st/jerarms.htm) [2] (http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.c...iddleeast.html) (c.1099), and possibly until the creation of Israel in 1948.

Stateless and humiliated for so long, Palestinians have risen up against Israel's huge [U.S. sponsored & supported] military machine, although they themselves have no arm, no tanks, no planes and gun ships or missiles. [3] (http://pilger.carlton.com/palestine)

Some have committed desperate acts of terror, like suicide bombing. But for Palestinians, the overriding, routine terror, day after day, has been the ruthless control of almost every aspect of their lives, as if they live in an open prison. The John Pilger film, Palestine Is Still The Issue, is about the Palestinians and a group of courageous Israelis united in the oldest human struggle - to be free. [4] (http://www.johnpilger.com/palestine/)

http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Palestine

http://www.vestedowl.com/coin.jpg

also if you look at the census done by the U.N 2 years before israel was created you see :

http://domino.un.org/maps/m0094.jpg

[Zeael]

and his IP...if it continues...post his photo and address...he will really get banned then.

My IP is a proxy, and has been banned.

I can make my IP do anything if I wanted to, I can make it show that I live in Alaska if I wanted to.

One more thing. For the smart people or Admins of the board. My IP proxies are set up usually to diplomatic missions in the United States, Russia, and/or Crotia.

But I see no point in doing that right now.

[Kärnfysikern]

Did Jews fight for Jerusalem? Muslims have fought for Jerusalem with blood for hundreds and thosands of years, and always will.

well point 12 in your last post shows jews did fight for israel...

[Zeael]

well point 12 in your last post shows jews did fight for israel...

Yes, at the year it was created. Muslims have fought for Jerusalem and lost more lives than any other people in defense of Jerusalem.

[Zeael]

Double Post.

[Kärnfysikern]

Yes, at the year it was created. Muslims have fought for Jerusalem and lost more lives than any other people in defense of Jerusalem.

I guess the big question is WHY. No plot of land is worth any life. Would you rather se thousands of people die on both sides than to accept a peace treaty with firm borders?

[Zeael]

I guess the big question is WHY. No plot of land is worth any life. Would you rather se thousands of people die on both sides than to accept a peace treaty with firm borders?

Arabs always wanted to accept a peace treaty. But Israel will never allow it.

Tell me why they would want to occupy the West Bank and Gaza?

When Olmert talks about a pullout, the Zionists scream.

They are greedy, they want more land. They arent happy with the land they stole, they want more.

[Zeael]

The Zionists want to destroy the Palestinians, but unlike the Palestinians they are smart, and dont mention it.

They take part in systematic ethnic cleansing. But they dont realize the will and stubborness of Arabs.

[Kärnfysikern]

Arabs always wanted to accept a peace treaty. But Israel will never allow it.

Tell me why they would want to occupy the West Bank and Gaza?

When Olmert talks about a pullout, the Zionists scream.

They are greedy, they want more land. They arent happy with the land they stole, they want more.

Dont tell me people like Ahmadinejad or hamas members would be willing to accept a peace treaty. Isnt it true that they want to se Israel cease to exist as a nation?

Seems to me like most of israel is secular and wants peace while palestinians are fooled into voting for fanatics that wants anything but peace...

[Zeael]

Got to get a haircut, will be back later.

[Zeael]

Dont tell me people like Ahmadinejad or hamas members would be willing to accept a peace treaty. Isnt it true that they want to se Israel cease to exist as a nation?

Yes, there are also Jews that want to transfer Arabs out of Palestine and put them in Jordan or Egypt. There are also Jews who want to kill all Arabs in Palestine.

Seems to me like most of israel is secular and wants peace while palestinians are fooled into voting for fanatics that wants anything but peace...

If Israel really wanted peace, they would have peace. They want war, that is the only way to keep their occupation alive. They want to steal Palestinian land. They want the West Bank, all of it.

But these Zionists are sneaky, they keep their plans to themselves. Arabs on the other hand, just talk alot and boast about it.

[Teabagger]

Please lets not get into any insults anymore in this forum

Edited by johan

[RA]

Palestine


1.) When was it founded and by whom?: British Mandate Palestine was created by the League of Nations in 1922 and governorship was mandated to Great Britain. Prior to that Palestine was a part of the Ottoman Empire for over 400 years. After its defeat by the Allies in World War I, the Ottoman Empire was carved up by the Allies into what is now the modern Middle East. The borders of the current nation states in the Middle East were determined after WWI by aBritish and French agreement (the 1916 Sykes-Picot Agreement).

2.) What were its borders? Roughly the same as modern day Israel (including the occupied territories minus the Golan Heights, which is Syrian territory).

3.) What was its capital?: Jerusalem

4.) What were its major cities?:Bethlehem, Nablus, Jenin, Haifa, Beersheba, Hebron, Gaza, Jaffa, Nazareth, Khan Yunis, Ramallah, Qalqilya, Ramle and Tulkarem. (does not include cities destroyed by the Israelis in 1948)

5.) What constituted the basis of its economy?:Agriculture. Many inhabitants were farmers and harvested olive and citrus trees. Olive oil was the main export.

6.) What was its form of government?:Under the British mandate there was a Palestine National Congress that sent delegations to Great Britain, demanding independence.

7.) Palestinian leaders before Arafat? Musa Kazim Pasha al-Husseini was president of the Palestinian National Congress until his death in 1934. Ahmed Shukeiry was the head of the PLO before Arafat.

8.) Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation? The region of Palestine was promised by the British to the Zionists who wanted to establish a Jewish homeland there. The formal British agreement to permit Zionist colonization came in the form of a letter known as the Balfour Declaration on November 2, 1917, which supported creating a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine with the following condition, "it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine." In fact, the British overlooked the interests and approval of the natives of the land, the Palestinians.

9.) What was the language of the country of Palestine? Arabic and Hebrew (although modern day Hebrew is a recent creation; most Jewish immigrants before 1948 spoke Yiddish).

10.) What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine? Islam, a sizable minority of Christians and some Jewish communities. A survey was done showing the distribution of Palestinian and Jewish districts in Palestine in 1945 and was published by the United Nations (http://domino.un.org/maps/m0094.jpg).

11.) What was the name of its currency?:The currency was the Palestine Pound and it was written in Arabic, Hebrew and English. The Palestinian Pound is equal to 1000 mils and was roughly equivalent to the British Pound. Type in "Palestine" on eBay and you will see actual coins for sale similar to the one here (http://www.vestedowl.com/coin.jpg).

12.) Since there is no such country today, what caused Palestine's demise and when did it occur?: On May 15, 1948 when the Jewish immigrants expelled the Palestinian population, destroyed hundreds of their villages/cities, and founded Israel on 78% of the land of Palestine. Palestinians refer to this as the Nakbah or Catastrophe. Transjordan (later named Jordan) then took control of the West Bank and Egypt took over the Gaza Strip. In 1967, Israel attacked the Egyptian airforce, then took control of the remaining 22% of lands in the West Bank, Jerusalem, Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula. The Palestinians in those areas have been living under Israeli military occupation until today.

Source: The Vested Owl (http://www.vestedowl.com/palestinian_view.html)


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The name "Palestine" derives from Palaestinia, the Roman name for the region, and ultimately from the Philistines, who occupied much of it during Old Testament times.

Jews, Christians, and Muslims all inhabited Jerusalem in relative harmony until "the Crusades" [1] (http://www.library.cornell.edu/colld...st/jerarms.htm) [2] (http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.c...iddleeast.html) (c.1099), and possibly until the creation of Israel in 1948.

Stateless and humiliated for so long, Palestinians have risen up against Israel's huge [U.S. sponsored & supported] military machine, although they themselves have no arm, no tanks, no planes and gun ships or missiles. [3] (http://pilger.carlton.com/palestine)

Some have committed desperate acts of terror, like suicide bombing. But for Palestinians, the overriding, routine terror, day after day, has been the ruthless control of almost every aspect of their lives, as if they live in an open prison. The John Pilger film, Palestine Is Still The Issue, is about the Palestinians and a group of courageous Israelis united in the oldest human struggle - to be free. [4] (http://www.johnpilger.com/palestine/)

http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Palestine

http://www.vestedowl.com/coin.jpg

also if you look at the census done by the U.N 2 years before israel was created you see :

http://domino.un.org/maps/m0094.jpg

Thats not what I asked. Is there such a place...today?

[RA]

Yes, there are also Jews that want to transfer Arabs out of Palestine and put them in Jordan or Egypt. There are also Jews who want to kill all Arabs in Palestine.



If Israel really wanted peace, they would have peace. They want war, that is the only way to keep their occupation alive. They want to steal Palestinian land. They want the West Bank, all of it.

But these Zionists are sneaky, they keep their plans to themselves. Arabs on the other hand, just talk alot and boast about it.

They are just defending THEIR country..

[Banned1]

Thats not what I asked. Is there such a place...today?

Yes.

93 countries recognize the State of Palestine, and eleven more grant some form of diplomatic status to a Palestinian delegation, falling short of full diplomatic recognition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine