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    Quote Originally Posted by HardBastard
    If you watch what the bleep do we know , down the rabbit hole they discuss a lot of these things. you can get it from torrentspy.com
    pretty cool movie...there are rumors that there are spiritual agendas behind it...but most of the movie is accurate...i watched it for probably around 3 hours before i had to run...it was just going into neuroscience and "perceived reality" , which was pretty interesting...

    i definitly recommend this movie if you have 4-5 hours to spend, and a decent attention span, haha...

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicedOUTbrain
    pretty cool movie...there are rumors that there are spiritual agendas behind it...but most of the movie is accurate...i watched it for probably around 3 hours before i had to run...it was just going into neuroscience and "perceived reality" , which was pretty interesting...

    i definitly recommend this movie if you have 4-5 hours to spend, and a decent attention span, haha...

    the one i watched was 2.5 hours. that was what the bleep do we know down the rabbit hole . what the bleep do we know was the firsst one i guess.

    yes the rabbit whole definitely had spiritual agenda , but an amazing ammount of very credible scientists who were singing the praises of spirituality. the stuff about the entanglement and the light changing from photons to waves when you observe them is very strange, all in all the picture is very strange almost mad , its like up could be down or 1 + 2 = 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardBastard
    the one i watched was 2.5 hours. that was what the bleep do we know down the rabbit hole . what the bleep do we know was the firsst one i guess.
    Thats what i have...but it is the DVD, with hours of extra interviews...

    yes the rabbit whole definitely had spiritual agenda , but an amazing ammount of very credible scientists who were singing the praises of spirituality. the stuff about the entanglement and the light changing from photons to waves when you observe them is very strange, all in all the picture is very strange almost mad , its like up could be down or 1 + 2 = 4.
    I personally dont think science and spirituality contradict eachother...as einstein said science is just understanding god designs...or somthing to that effect. However, religious leaders would like to see an end to science because it contradicts thier literal interpurtation of the bible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicedOUTbrain
    I was more reffering to the result of the experiment. If communication bewtween particles can be instantaneous, that leads me to believe that there is a faster than light travel, or that the reality we live in may not be so REAL. If time and space are Infinitly large in some form or another (which ist what i personally belive) that leads me to the conclusion that the perceived space between things must be infinitly small...its hard to wrap your head around it, i know...but i can elaborate if you dont understand what Im saying...humans are so used to finite, measurable things...when you bring real infinity into the equasion, everything seems to change...i know that time and space are convenient to us, but i question if they are real things, or just the embodiement of how the brain understands the world around us...
    Yupp I think I get what you mean

    The whole entanglement issue is unresolved so far and its going to be interesting to se where it ends. The philosophical implications of quantum mechanis are quite fascinating. But I havent realy read so much about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by juicedOUTbrain
    Hmm, is that the process that occurs in stars...I dont know much about it, but it sounds interesting...if you want to give me some links i could check it out...
    Here is the basics of the tripple alpha process
    http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/l...riplealph.html

    It is not perfectly understood yet. The details that is. But it is a crucial part in knowing how old a star can get. I havent realy gotten into the whole thing yet but Im looking foward to it. We can study the process on earth by doing it in a reverse. We let carbon 12 decay into 4He+8be and then the 8Be further decays. By understanding the decay we will understand the fusion aswell. But experimentaly it is EXTREMELY hard since the lifetime of 8Be is in the order of picoseconds.

    The most important thing is that the details of the fusion processes determine how old a star can get. If for instance one step in the fusion chain is a bit more probably than we think it might cut down the theoretical age of a star with as much as 20% if not more.

    Quote Originally Posted by juicedOUTbrain
    BTW I was talking to pops last night, and we were talking about some of his old work...he was working on the magnetic suseptabily of carbon chars, and contributed a lot of work to the North Warning System, a radar system now used in the arctic...he went on to tell me that his ex-lab partner when he tought and studied physics at city college, actually went on to become the president of the national physical society in 2003...i thought that was interesting...
    Is he retired or still active? Engineer or physicist?

    Quote Originally Posted by juicedOUTbrain
    like i said im not an expert on this stuff...i consided cold fission to be, the process of being able to split atoms without releasing all of the energy (storing it), i guess i was mistaken...
    yeah it cant realy be done unfortunaly. When a nuclei fission it gets split into two roughly equal mass parts and a few neutrons. All the energy is in the form of kinetic energy of these parts. They bump and crash into everything around them until the kinetic energy has been randomly distributed as heat.

    Quote Originally Posted by juicedOUTbrain
    haha, well thats not very useful is it...sounds cool though ill definitly check it out.
    lol nah not usefull for anything except curiosity It works by replacing a electron with a muon, the muon is much more massive so it orbits around the nuclei much closer. That means the nuclear charge is screened and you can get two nuclei much closer before the electrostatic repulsion becomes noticable. So reaching the distance needed for the strong force to kick in becomes so much easier.

    But muons have a very short lifetime and that I guess is why it can never be a practical method.

    Quote Originally Posted by juicedOUTbrain
    I often believe the same things...many assumptions people rely on in the world of physics are just that assumptions...a theory that meets all possible experimentation, but could be subject to a better fit replacement at any time.

    I waiting for a final "theory of everything" that will tie relativity and quantum mechanics once and for all...im sure once its found it will be beautiful and very revealing about the true universe in which we live

    I do plan on sticking with it, like i said i havent really gotten the ball rolling yet on what EXACTLY i want to do...but ive been into physics since i was a pretty young kid, and i doubt my interest will change now...
    I am kind of hoping we never find a theory of everything. It would be a bit boring if we find a ultimate theory. Then physics would be a done science, all that would be left is to work on the details


    Quote Originally Posted by juicedOUTbrain
    Well thats why quantum mechanics is so cool...experiments like the ones that resulted in entanglement show us there is a lot we dont know...and its cool to think about whats going on...

    Have you ever heard of the quantum experiments with "superposition" whos results change just by the mere act of observing them? WTF?<---COOL VIDEO...

    and heres a better desciription of the experiment

    Yupp the good old dubble slit is usualy the first encounter with quantum mechanics. Such a simple example but far reaching philosophical implications. No wonder einstein didnt like the implications of quantum mechanics.

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