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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    so obama says in the debate that he called the benghazi attack an act of terrorism the day after (sept. 12th)

    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    lie or a lie

    good job huh
    technically he did. They have aired the clip multiple times already.
    That made Romney look horrible, he went for the attack, made that horrible expression raising his eye brows and was wrong.
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    I'm not saying Romney cant fix things. But why doesnt he give more details then " i know how" or " i can do it"

    And his tax plan everyone is saying its not possible to not raise taxes on the middle class or make the debt bigger. If some hoe he figured it out why not give the details and shut everyone up and prove you deserve the job?
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    no...he didnt call that attack terrorism and didnt until several weeks later....the spin they came up with just recently was to say MENTIONING "not putting up with terrorism" in his interview was him saying the attack was terrorism..why would you push that propoganda knowing its false

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    it didnt make him look horrible...he was in utter shock that he came up with a new fat lie

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    i thought Obummer and Romney were going to duke it out at first!

    looked like two kids up there!

    i wish politicians would sign a document stating everything they want to change or do, and if they don't deliver, fire themselves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    it didnt make him look horrible...he was in utter shock that he came up with a new fat lie
    i dont agree. And i even say republican commentators say that was one of Romney's worst moments.
    Romney had a few lies himself last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    no...he didnt call that attack terrorism and didnt until several weeks later....the spin they came up with just recently was to say MENTIONING "not putting up with terrorism" in his interview was him saying the attack was terrorism..why would you push that propoganda knowing its false
    who says it was propaganda if all the information wasnt in yet 24 hours later? Or if they got some mis information? You think they actually went out there and flat out lied?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    I really liked the zero income tax and raise the sales tax idea
    I've been arguing no income tax with people and it hasn't worked out too well. I've definitely been for this.

    Our economy needs people to have a greater incentive to make more money. Obama seeks to drive the middle class into dependance. Romney wants to facilitate americans with upward mobility, and under his changes, not just businesses benefit, but ultimately the employee does, ends up with the possibility of not only having more take home, but for wages to increase and ultimately not as reliant on government. Personally it looks like I make ok money, nothing great, but with how ridiculous it is that I can't buy more than the necessities and have left over money, it drives me crazy. Everything is just too expensive, and like what was mentioned in the debates middle class is making less money. This is why my wages 10 years ago would have kept me able to have a little extra to do things, and not be constantly concerned about spending habits to the point I don't fix things because the money just isn't there.

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    ^^^ see i don't see how any president can effect wages. Yes they are down. Who set the wages? The company. Now big companies have stock holders to answer too. So paying more cuts into profit. There are some companies up profit wise and still laying off or freezing wages. There are a lot of employers who just aren't generous. They dont take care of their employees. I have worked for people that were very cheap and took everything for themselves. I worked for people who spread the wealth. If we had a good month or year they would do something for the employees. A bonus something, Cause they realized the employees drive the business for most.

    The only thing i can see is if the economy really hits a boom and there are tons of places hiring and unemployment is low. Then companies have to compete for good employees and have to offer more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    who says it was propaganda if all the information wasnt in yet 24 hours later? Or if they got some mis information? You think they actually went out there and flat out lied?
    i dont THINK they lied...THEY DID

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    i dont THINK they lied...THEY DID
    ill wait to the actual investigation is done to form my opinion.
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    It has already come out... he DID lie and Candy set the record straight, OFF air. ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by system admin View Post
    It has already come out... he DID lie and Candy set the record straight, OFF air. ridiculous.
    what am i missing? I seen the video clip of him saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman
    so obama says in the debate that he called the benghazi attack an act of terrorism the day after (sept. 12th)

    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    lie or a lie

    good job huh
    Both!

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    so the prez said it was a terrorist attack?......6 days later U.N. ambassador says this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG64x31wyCU

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    so the prez said it was a terrorist attack?......6 days later U.N. ambassador says this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG64x31wyCU
    oh i'm not saying there isnt mixed messages. I'm just saying Romney was wrong in his accusation last night. Romney def had an argument to make but picked the wrong battle.

    And its been confirmed that Romney made "mistakes' or "misslead" or "lied" how ever you wanted to put it last night also.
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    I think if this had happened under president Bush the dems and media would be calling for his impeachment.

    What happed is clear, the amasator wrote in his diary that he was concerned about his security and asked for help, he was obviously ignored. Now it is unclear if Obama knew about this but regardless he is in charge and everyone in the White House works for him.

    The really bad part about this is after the attack they were all blaming it on that movie. Then the ambassador’s diary gets released and it was oh……no this was a act of terror.

    I'm still pissed that those animals over ran our Embassy and killed three Americans. I's a good thing I'm not in charge, I would do a lot more then invesigate who sent what when.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu
    I think if this had happened under president Bush the dems and media would be calling for his impeachment.

    What happed is clear, the amasator wrote in his diary that he was concerned about his security and asked for help, he was obviously ignored. Now it is unclear if Obama knew about this but regardless he is in charge and everyone in the White House works for him.

    The really bad part about this is after the attack they were all blaming it on that movie. Then the ambassador’s diary gets released and it was oh……no this was a act of terror.

    I'm still pissed that those animals over ran our Embassy and killed three Americans. I's a good thing I'm not in charge, I would do a lot more then invesigate who sent what when.
    4 American. The whole damn middle east is not worth the shit those 4 put in the toilet. Nuke the fvckers and get it over with.

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    Damn Bass,

    Tell me how you really feel. While I would be the first to condemn acts of terrorism I am not quite ready to nuke the middle east due to the actions of some extremists. Personally I think its high time we let Israel fight its own battles. If we would quit trying to run the middle east by remote control we would not be the target of all this hate.

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    FFM, should our country not help ANY country for ANY reason? no more allies? or just israel? and if u think just not help israel, why?

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    Help countries... . (if we really wanted to "help" countries we would be concentrating on portions of Africa and other conflicts where our actions are minimal and the abuse of civil rights is maximal ) We do very little "helping" that is not in our financial interest so first off lets get the terminology straight it is called investing in other countries. And no I do not think that in this day of free exchange of information and worldwide economic intercourse we can get away with either colonializing countries or simply manipulating them so that they run by remote control.

    As far as Israel goes, the middle east is divided by religious beliefs, these different beliefs and hatreds have kept these factions fighting for 100s of years. This whole idea of peace and love Bush and his cronies sold to the American people really shows just how naive and childish the voting public is these days. Sure if we could take out a dictator and waive the wand of free elections and have them all live in peace I would be all for it, however this is a childish fantasy.

    Myself I feel the reason we continue to involve ourselves in the Isreal's problems is two fold. Note; this may be so hard to digest I am reluctant to post it here, but what the hell. The obvious reason that we do this to appease all the Jewish people in sympathy who hold powerful posistions in the US and UN. However the other "under the radar" reason is that with the advent of Israels possesion of nuclear weapons if they ever were a full on attack on Israel they might use the nukes, as so many of my Jewish friends have pointed out to me, and easily win the war, (sadly they seem to think I am an arab lover since I do not feel we should devote billions a year to trying to revive this corpse) this I feel is a situation the oil barons in power in the US would definately not want. Since the Jews are far better at marketing petroleum than the Arabs ever will be so the price of crude would increase dramatically (look at diamonds).

    Anyway sorry if my feeling offend anyone, this is really not an antisemetic veiwpoint I simply don't feel that this is a fixable situation.
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    i dont see how it can be offensive

    you stated an opinion and a theory

    interesting and makes sense

    i dont see how staying their ally would HURT us any then even given your statement/theory...and is there government ever been known to kill its own, cruel to women like their neighbors...
    sure it might go back to its none of our biz how countries treat their people but its always gonna make a difference

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    We need to take a hard look at congress, a jobs bill that would put millions of people back to work rebuilding our crumbling national infrastructure sits there as they do nothing. Countries that are prospering in the meantime continue to invest in this while we as a country watch it fall apart. The hard work and investment of our fathers, grandfathers and great grandfathers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from massive
    Damn Bass,

    Tell me how you really feel. While I would be the first to condemn acts of terrorism I am not quite ready to nuke the middle east due to the actions of some extremists. Personally I think its high time we let Israel fight its own battles. If we would quit trying to run the middle east by remote control we would not be the target of all this hate.
    You're wrong brother, I was born there and lived there for 18 years, I know how they think and want to do to anyone who's not a Muslim. Many civil people still there but way out numbered. Of course I wasn't serious about nuking them but we need to put a stop to it. Does Japan ring a bell?!

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    this thread has been good and stayed civil with different opinions. Please lets not turn it into a Muslim hating thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    this thread has been good and stayed civil with different opinions. Please lets not turn it into a Muslim hating thread
    Bro, do you watch TV?! Since when stating facts is hate?

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    LIL JOKE BACK TO THE TITLE OF THE ORIGINAL POST THREAD************************

    One day in the future, Barack Obama has a heart-attack and dies.

    He immediately goes to hell, where the devil is waiting for him.

    "I don't know what to do here," says the devil. "You are on my list, but I have no room for you. You definitely have to stay here, so I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I've got a couple of folks here who weren't quite as bad as you. I'll let one of them go, but you...have to take their place. I'll even let YOU decide who leaves."

    Obama thought that sounded pretty good, so the devil opened the door to the first room.

    In it was Ted Kennedy and a large pool of water. Ted kept diving in, and surfacing, empty handed. Over, and over, and over he dived in and surfaced with nothing. Such was his fate in hell.

    "No," Obama said. "I don't think so. I'm not a good swimmer, and I don't think I could do that all day long."

    The devil led him to the door of the next room. In it was Al Gore with a sledge-hammer and a room full of rocks. All he did was swing that hammer, time after time after time.

    "No, this is no good; I've got this problem with my shoulder. I would be in constant agony if all I could do was break rocks all day," commented Obama.

    The devil opened a third door. Through it, Obama saw Bill Clinton, lying on the bed, his arms tied over his head, and his legs restrained in a spread-eagle pose. Bent over him was Monica Lewinsky, doing what she does best.

    Obama looked at this in shock and disbelief, and finally said, "Yeah man, I can handle this.”

    The devil smiled and said...........(This is priceless...)

    "OK, Monica, you're free to go."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman
    LIL JOKE BACK TO THE TITLE OF THE ORIGINAL POST THREAD************************

    One day in the future, Barack Obama has a heart-attack and dies.

    He immediately goes to hell, where the devil is waiting for him.

    "I don't know what to do here," says the devil. "You are on my list, but I have no room for you. You definitely have to stay here, so I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I've got a couple of folks here who weren't quite as bad as you. I'll let one of them go, but you...have to take their place. I'll even let YOU decide who leaves."

    Obama thought that sounded pretty good, so the devil opened the door to the first room.

    In it was Ted Kennedy and a large pool of water. Ted kept diving in, and surfacing, empty handed. Over, and over, and over he dived in and surfaced with nothing. Such was his fate in hell.

    "No," Obama said. "I don't think so. I'm not a good swimmer, and I don't think I could do that all day long."

    The devil led him to the door of the next room. In it was Al Gore with a sledge-hammer and a room full of rocks. All he did was swing that hammer, time after time after time.

    "No, this is no good; I've got this problem with my shoulder. I would be in constant agony if all I could do was break rocks all day," commented Obama.

    The devil opened a third door. Through it, Obama saw Bill Clinton, lying on the bed, his arms tied over his head, and his legs restrained in a spread-eagle pose. Bent over him was Monica Lewinsky, doing what she does best.

    Obama looked at this in shock and disbelief, and finally said, "Yeah man, I can handle this."

    The devil smiled and said...........(This is priceless...)

    "OK, Monica, you're free to go."
    Haha..... Good one jp!

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    just one of 1000s out there. for those who think Islam don't have a long term goal, wake up and smell the hummus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpkman View Post
    LIL JOKE BACK TO THE TITLE OF THE ORIGINAL POST THREAD************************


    "OK, Monica, you're free to go."
    hahahaha I had to literally cover my mouth at work due to LOL

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    Priceless is Right! Vote early vote often

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    Have you seen this? Less than 200 showed up for his rally on Sunday. lol
    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index...l#incart_river

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    interesting....we'll see tomorrow

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    I though this was pretty interesting also.

    Valerie Jarret Openly declared as “Obama’s Brain”, and the figure whose second story West Wing office has been described by political insiders as the true Oval Office of the Obama White House.

    “After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.”
    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/1...back-time-wsi/


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    The nerve

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    ha...yeh i just heard the good news...the ground hog saw his shadow and bidens

    4 more years...so i can get a phone...how bout a motorcycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    i think if this had happened under president bush the dems and media would be calling for his impeachment.

    What happed is clear, the amasator wrote in his diary that he was concerned about his security and asked for help, he was obviously ignored. Now it is unclear if obama knew about this but regardless he is in charge and everyone in the white house works for him.

    The really bad part about this is after the attack they were all blaming it on that movie. Then the ambassador’s diary gets released and it was oh……no this was a act of terror.

    I'm still pissed that those animals over ran our embassy and killed three americans. I's a good thing i'm not in charge, i would do a lot more then invesigate who sent what when.
    this^^^

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    I know this is a very old thread but " a sexy wife "". Huh. I must be going blind. !!!!!

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    Hell the only reason he won is beacuse he didnt suck as much as Romney.We need a guy who isnt from Texas and who isnt going to be run by big oil.

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