T3: A complete guide to cycling T3 and how it works

[SEOINAGE]

Question. For individuals like myself, who is basically a hyper excreter or metabolizer. Typically I need double most other things, or at least need them more frequently for them to work. If my plan is 50 mcg of t3 for double physiological doses, should I be splitting it up because of this or taking more? I know you say not to complicate things, but I wonder if this will be a serious issue for me to get it right. I imagine I will need to experiment to get it right, but was wondering if you might have any input on this, or if one route of experiment is better than the other, mainly up frequency vs up dose. Currently just started 50 mcg once a day.

[austinite]

Question. For individuals like myself, who is basically a hyper excreter or metabolizer. Typically I need double most other things, or at least need them more frequently for them to work. If my plan is 50 mcg of t3 for double physiological doses, should I be splitting it up because of this or taking more? I know you say not to complicate things, but I wonder if this will be a serious issue for me to get it right. I imagine I will need to experiment to get it right, but was wondering if you might have any input on this, or if one route of experiment is better than the other, mainly up frequency vs up dose. Currently just started 50 mcg once a day.

It wont hurt to split the dose, but it won't add any results. Half life is too long for that to matter, regardless of your level of metabolism.

[gearbox]

It wont hurt to split the dose, but it won't add any results. Half life is too long for that to matter, regardless of your level of metabolism.

nice. got my half life question answered

I started this morning at 50, ill keep you posted

[gearbox]

Aust. Want me to start a t3 log. Or just report a little info on my experience In here?

Day 1- Noticed a slight increase in perspiration during workout. Nothing major but noticeable

[austinite]

Aust. Want me to start a t3 log. Or just report a little info on my experience In here?

Day 1- Noticed a slight increase in perspiration during workout. Nothing major but noticeable

Whatever you want to do pal. People love logs so they can see the progress. Maybe an log update once or twice a week? That would be great!

[BigPimpin76]

Austinite? A question Bro?

What can be taken in regards to being fatigued? Any tips?
Thanks in advance

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[austinite]

^ Check my supplement thread. Many things listed there.

http://forums.steroid.com/supplement...tml?highlight=

[SEOINAGE]

It wont hurt to split the dose, but it won't add any results. Half life is too long for that to matter, regardless of your level of metabolism.

Well I'm 5 days in, and feeling nothing so far. AR-R T3 for reference 50 mcg early evening. I'm starting to wonder, since I tried looking up the half life and I'm hearing crap like 10 hours, and then I hear 2-3 days. Then you read about how people used to multi dose the stuff like 6 times a day, but then realized that wasn't needed so they went to 2-3 times a day. My body temp in the armpit is 96.6 F. And it's been pretty consistent there.

The one thing I have noticed is weights don't feel heavy, I'm still weaker from calories being cut, but I feel pretty good warming up and ramping up weight. It could be related to other changes I have made however.

[GFA]

Quick update.

Aborted after day 10. Fatigue was just too much.

Lost 5 lbs, approximately 1/2 a day. Guess if I kept going I could drop 15lbs in a month which is double the normal rate of 2lbs a week.

[AliYousaf]

So what would be the correct blood panel for T3? I am at mid cycle going to get RBC. what else do I need to monitor ??

[austinite]

^ You can monitor whatever you want. I just monitor temperature and blood pressure.

[AliYousaf]

Actually I am having tremors (if that's the name for shaking like a 102 years old grandpa) with cycling T3 all day long. I am using 120 mcg a day with Test Enan 250 mg twice a week.
I usually have the same kind of sides while cycling Clen . Thought T3 would save me from that. My heart beat is unusually faster and irregular and I can feel it all day long specially when I am at ease lazing around or when trying to sleep. These sides from T3 are expected as your post mentions but I want to make sure that everything is in order. I am going to get TEST FREE , total, estradiol, CBC, complete Thyroid panel tomorrow. Is there anything else I want to know. ??

[austinite]

Your dose is too high. Cut it in half. Very simple.

[whynot960]

I am 45 5'9" and 260lbs and found out I have Hypothyroid, I on 75mcgs of synthroid a day and was wondering if I can take t3 while on this. I have tried many times in the past few yrs to lose weight and nothing now that I been on synthroid for a few months I am planning to go at it again and was thinking of taking t3 to maybe help out. but its really hard and I wonder if I can even lose any weight doing it right with this problem, I dont motivated at all I am always really tired. thanks
mike

[austinite]

^ Probably not a good idea if you're in treatment. Are you a testosterone therapy patient?

[SEOINAGE]

I am 45 5'9" and 260lbs and found out I have Hypothyroid, I on 75mcgs of synthroid a day and was wondering if I can take t3 while on this. I have tried many times in the past few yrs to lose weight and nothing now that I been on synthroid for a few months I am planning to go at it again and was thinking of taking t3 to maybe help out. but its really hard and I wonder if I can even lose any weight doing it right with this problem, I dont motivated at all I am always really tired. thanks
mike

There are some doctors who will prescribe t3 along with synthroid, although it will be in small amounts. You can ask your doctor about it. Or a dessicated thyroid medication would have t4 and t3 in it. But you really should worry about getting dialed in on your dosage before you consider super-physiological doses for fat loss, you likely won't need it once you are optimal anyways and get your diet and training in check.

[whynot960]

^ Probably not a good idea if you're in treatment. Are you a testosterone therapy patient?

No I am not on any kind of testosterone therapy or anything.
Seoinage,Austinite thanks for the reply. I will start working out and doing cardio and hopefully when My levels are dialed in the fat will start coming off.

[lachu543]

Can T3 make tiredness/lethargic?

[austinite]

Can T3 make tiredness/lethargic?

Yes. Should wear off after 10 days or so.

[Rida5d]

Hi austinite,
Is there any problem running evista and t3 at the same time ?

[Sicko]

Thanks Austinite... I have been interested in doing a cycle of T3 for a while now but did not fully understand the compounds properties and its function. Great read, solid info and easy on the brain...

[lachu543]

Yes. Should wear off after 10 days or so.

Hmm... i'm on:

350mg Test Prop
350mg Tren Ace
350mg NPP
50mcg T3 ( Tiromel )
12,5mg Exe eod
0,5mg Caber e4d

I'm taking 50mcg 30mins before breakfast. I feel fking tired/lethargy, in the afternoon most of all, muscles weak, less regeneration from training. And i'm in 3rd week on T3.

[SmashIt]

Lachu -

How long were you doing this cycle before you added the T3? Asking because I thought fatigue was a side of Caber.

[austinite]

Hi austinite,
Is there any problem running evista and t3 at the same time ?

Yes. Combination can force TSH to become over productive, even in the presence of exo T3.

[austinite]

Hmm... i'm on:

350mg Test Prop
350mg Tren Ace
350mg NPP
50mcg T3 ( Tiromel )
12,5mg Exe eod
0,5mg Caber e4d

I'm taking 50mcg 30mins before breakfast. I feel fking tired/lethargy, in the afternoon most of all, muscles weak, less regeneration from training. And i'm in 3rd week on T3.

Get blood work. You should not be surprised when you run so many compounds. Probably the tren.

[Rida5d]

Yes. Combination can force TSH to become over productive, even in the presence of exo T3.

Thnx for not kicking my ass
I read first page 200 times last few months and yet I asked that stupid question..

[bigpup33]

hi,
just a quick question regarding t3 in a cycle.

I plan on doin a 12 week cycle of 500mg test per week, hcg ai, proper pct etc

im thinking around week 8 or 9 introducing say 50mcg of T3 a day, how much would this hinder my gains (still eating +500cal surplus) also would it make me to lethargic?
I was thinkn of running it right up until a week before PCT as I would still have test in my system, also my metabolism would be slower once im off the T3 in my early days of PCT.
anyone thoughts would be greatly appreciated

[austinite]

Thnx for not kicking my ass
I read first page 200 times last few months and yet I asked that stupid question..

lol. it was a good question buddy.

hi,
just a quick question regarding t3 in a cycle.

I plan on doin a 12 week cycle of 500mg test per week, hcg ai, proper pct etc

im thinking around week 8 or 9 introducing say 50mcg of T3 a day, how much would this hinder my gains (still eating +500cal surplus) also would it make me to lethargic?
I was thinkn of running it right up until a week before PCT as I would still have test in my system, also my metabolism would be slower once im off the T3 in my early days of PCT.
anyone thoughts would be greatly appreciated

It won't hinder gains. Running T3 for 3 weeks is a waste of time.

[bigpup33]

lets say I start T3 on the 4th week of my cycle and supplement it right thru to PCT, would this yield better results?

[austinite]

Is 5 extra weeks on T3 better? If that's what you're asking, then yes.

[NEFLRick]

Not sure if I'm way off here but looking for advice:

I'm on 200mg test every week. Lost over 50lbs and am looking to get down quite a bit more (about 40 more lbs). Thinking of doing a cycle using T3 but also considering doing albuterol or clen (although I think I've been ruling out clen because of sides). Also considering running growth (low dose) at the same time.

Diet has been dialed in as has training. Been seeing great gains in strength and lost a lot of bf. Looking to continue/accelerate the trend.

Am I way off base on what I'm considering?

[austinite]

I tend to stay away from Clenbuterol . I really believe it's garbage and dangerous. Albuterol would be my choice if I ever chose to couple it with T3. That being said, congrats on your weight loss thus far, you may however, want to look into why you're needing multiple compounds to make this work.

[Chicagotarsier]

Great progress Rick!

Austin,

I think people that are way overweight like me and the above usually have to deal with diabetis to some degree and Albuterol is one of the top no-nos (well as marketed and information from doctors) for dibetics. If I was about 80 lbs lighter at this moment I would be on albuterol vs clen . The exact reply from the Dr (picture this in Chinglish)

You dumb that kill you if diabetic.

So there is either real fear or real marketing on the product that makes us tubby-tubbies standoffish. I am sure the truth of the fear is the same truth on most thing...some idiot takes twice the max dose thinking it will work twice as good!!

As far as needing multiple compounds. I am starting the Clen + T3 because I just want it DONE. I want the weight gone, period. Just want to get to a point where when I take a lab the thought is..if I was 4 points less bodyfat how would it impact that. It is hard to not be like the idiot example I gave, the drive and desire to "get back" since I started TRT is furious. How furious? I am weighing in grams my food I eat. Never considered that before in my life and it is now done without thought.

I tend to stay away from Clenbuterol. I really believe it's garbage and dangerous. Albuterol would be my choice if I ever chose to couple it with T3. That being said, congrats on your weight loss thus far, you may however, want to look into why you're needing multiple compounds to make this work.

[joebailey1271]

Austin, i have been taking t3 for 3 weeks now at 50mcg daily, my temp. before starting was a 5 day average of 98.2, When i started the t3 it was about 99.1 for the first 2 weeks, now my temp is lower than when i started, like 97.5, Do you have any idea why, it does fluctuate later in the day, but my rising temp is low. Could the T3 gone bad?

[Chicagotarsier]

Are you taking ketotifen?

Austin, i have been taking t3 for 3 weeks now at 50mcg daily, my temp. before starting was a 5 day average of 98.2, When i started the t3 it was about 99.1 for the first 2 weeks, now my temp is lower than when i started, like 97.5, Do you have any idea why, it does fluctuate later in the day, but my rising temp is low. Could the T3 gone bad?

[NEFLRick]

I tend to stay away from Clenbuterol. I really believe it's garbage and dangerous. Albuterol would be my choice if I ever chose to couple it with T3. That being said, congrats on your weight loss thus far, you may however, want to look into why you're needing multiple compounds to make this work.

Austin:

So you suggest albut and T3 together then? Makes sense after reading your posts.

I'm not saying I need multiple compounds to get to where I want to be, just thinking this may be a nice combination. I know a few people here who do something like what I'm looking at doing and they've had great success with minimal sides. I've come a long way so far and want to push it over the goal line (so to say). I turn 45 in August and want to hit my goal before then. Would like to be in the best shape of my life before I turn 45. In other words, I want to set another fairly aggressive goal.

With that said, I'm not opposed to changing my plans based on good advice. You, and others around here know a HELLUVA lot more than I do about all of this (I'm still a newbie). I've been able to learn a TON of things from everyone here and I do take the advice given seriously.

Chicago:

Thankfully, I have never fought with diabetes. So I've got that going for me. But, seriously, even though I've lost a lot of weight, I wasn't obese. I've always had a lot of muscle because I've lifted for so many years. I wasn't motivated to cut the bf until I started trt. I revamped my diet totally and now eat extremely healthy (although not perfectly). It's made all of the difference in the world for me. Interestingly enough, I didn't eat terribly UNhealthy but I wasn't eating enough of the good stuff.

[joebailey1271]

Are you taking ketotifen?

I dont, i thought u only needed that with clen or albuterol

[austinite]

Great progress Rick!

Austin,

I think people that are way overweight like me and the above usually have to deal with diabetis to some degree and Albuterol is one of the top no-nos (well as marketed and information from doctors) for dibetics. If I was about 80 lbs lighter at this moment I would be on albuterol vs clen . The exact reply from the Dr (picture this in Chinglish)

You dumb that kill you if diabetic.

So there is either real fear or real marketing on the product that makes us tubby-tubbies standoffish. I am sure the truth of the fear is the same truth on most thing...some idiot takes twice the max dose thinking it will work twice as good!!

As far as needing multiple compounds. I am starting the Clen + T3 because I just want it DONE. I want the weight gone, period. Just want to get to a point where when I take a lab the thought is..if I was 4 points less bodyfat how would it impact that. It is hard to not be like the idiot example I gave, the drive and desire to "get back" since I started TRT is furious. How furious? I am weighing in grams my food I eat. Never considered that before in my life and it is now done without thought.

He did not say he was diabetic and this thread is not tailored to diabetics. Not sure where all that came from.

[austinite]

Austin:

So you suggest albut and T3 together then? Makes sense after reading your posts.

I'm not saying I need multiple compounds to get to where I want to be, just thinking this may be a nice combination. I know a few people here who do something like what I'm looking at doing and they've had great success with minimal sides. I've come a long way so far and want to push it over the goal line (so to say). I turn 45 in August and want to hit my goal before then. Would like to be in the best shape of my life before I turn 45. In other words, I want to set another fairly aggressive goal.

With that said, I'm not opposed to changing my plans based on good advice. You, and others around here know a HELLUVA lot more than I do about all of this (I'm still a newbie). I've been able to learn a TON of things from everyone here and I do take the advice given seriously.

Chicago:

Thankfully, I have never fought with diabetes. So I've got that going for me. But, seriously, even though I've lost a lot of weight, I wasn't obese. I've always had a lot of muscle because I've lifted for so many years. I wasn't motivated to cut the bf until I started trt. I revamped my diet totally and now eat extremely healthy (although not perfectly). It's made all of the difference in the world for me. Interestingly enough, I didn't eat terribly UNhealthy but I wasn't eating enough of the good stuff.

I don't see the need for it. So no, I do not suggest it.

[Chicagotarsier]

Per Harvard Edu 30% of overweight people are diabetic and 70% + obese are diabetic. If he has dropped 50 and has more than that to go he is obese and the chances he is diabetic is very high. 7 out of 10 is a VERY good casino bet haha. If they are not being treated for it there is a good chance they have not been tested for it or are even aware they are diabetic.

15-20% of Type 2 are not overweight or obese...and doctors will not comment on THAT fact. The most common Type 2 is due to insulin absorption issues due to fat acting as a reflector to the substance.

Sooooo..I assume people with a good deal of fat have diabetic tendencies.

He did not say he was diabetic and this thread is not tailored to diabetics. Not sure where all that came from.