Why be gay? No religious posts

[stu4rt]

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You have a women/man in your life that you care about. They make you feel good about yourself and you return the favor. Not as a chore but because just making the other person feel good makes you feel good. When you see the other person smile or giggle you can’t help but break out in laughter yourself enjoying the moment together. ...........

I am not sure whether I am "gay" or not.But right now,I am basically going through the things that you wrote with a guy for a few years.But the "problem" is, straight porn is able to stimulate me and gay porn do not.Based on description of my problem,do you all think I am a gay?I have once asked this kind of question in another forum and was told to be patient and as time goes,I will know,but it is already a few years and I am still not sure.

During this relationship, I rejected a girl, who has now turn from a good friend to "an enemy",giving a "crappy" reasons,such as parents and bla bla, except the reason"I think I am a gay".Anyone of you been through this situation?May I know how did you handle it?This is because I hate to have more enemies and I have problem expressing.

[DSM4Life]

I am not sure whether I am "gay" or not.But right now,I am basically going through the things that you wrote with a guy for a few years.But the "problem" is, straight porn is able to stimulate me and gay porn do not.Based on description of my problem,do you all think I am a gay?I have once asked this kind of question in another forum and was told to be patient and as time goes,I will know,but it is already a few years and I am still not sure.

During this relationship, I rejected a girl, who has now turn from a good friend to "an enemy",giving a "crappy" reasons,such as parents and bla bla, except the reason"I think I am a gay".Anyone of you been through this situation?May I know how did you handle it?This is because I hate to have more enemies and I have problem expressing.

Its not easy coming out and accepting the fact that you are gay. It took me about 7 years which most of them nights left me in tears before i could accept myself. When i first started having these feelings i thought it was just a sexual/fetish. I use to get off to guys but then right after i would cum the thought of lying with another man made me sick. I no longer get this feeling and when i look back on it i believe i was just fighting my true feelings. I now sometime find cuddling up with my man and watching tv more enjoyable then sex......sometimes

It’s not easy to just come out and say you are gay. Too many people feel as though they need to fit a label, gay/straight/bi. Why do people feel this way? Because of society. Just be who you are and enjoy life. If you want to be with a guy today then do so. Then in turn a week later you want to be with a female then go right ahead. Just live your life for you and you only because you only get one. Just remember that this doesn't give you a free pass to hurt people in the process. Don't lead people on.

If for some reason or another you feel as though you need to label yourself then this is how I see it.

Sexual attraction to guys = homosexual.
Sexual attraction to girls = heterosexual.
Sexual attraction to both = bisexual.

Now I have gone out with women (last relationship with a female lasted 3 years) and I have no problems with having sex with women. I just find it more enjoyable to be with a man. Some say I am bi others say I am gay. I say I am just me.

Hope it helps.


You can also PM whenever you want.

[SMAN12b]

From the words of Andrew "Dice" Clay

There is no BI

You either suck dick or you don't suck dick

.........LOLOL

I am sure you can be BI, just felt that quote fit here

[DSM4Life]

From the words of Andrew "Dice" Clay

There is no BI

You either suck dick or you don't suck dick

.........LOLOL

I am sure you can be BI, just felt that quote fit here

Being bi = confused gay person

[Huckster]

This thread is so gay, and I read through all three pages! Does that mean I'm gay??

[SMAN12b]

This thread is so gay, and I read through all three pages! Does that mean I'm gay??

YES it does, so bend over and take whats cumming to you.....

[bpm1]

interesting discussion to say the least, i have many opinions and talking points, i'll just hit a few.first being that i was raised very religiously, that being said i was tought homosexuality was wrong, now thats all im say about that point as we all know the stance most religions take on it.my second point is using that same reference of being raised religiously that i have no business judging other people, i can judge their actions but i cannot judge their eternal souls. that being said i can respect and like a person although i do not agree with every aspect of their lives. now anyone who claims to be christian and goes around bashing and hating anyone else who does not believe as they do r way off if u ask me and have as much need to repent as the people they r bashing. i dont know how to really get what im thinking down, just a few thoughts, i wish you ALL well!

[x_moe]

,,,,....

[Big]

x-moe, is that short for "former homosexual"?

[x_moe]

no, its a short for "natural beauty"

[Big]

hehe I was just messing with you man

[RoadToRecovery]

holidays? I've never heard of gays wanting holidays. What are you referring to when you say they ask soooo much? equal rights?

Not officially holidays but a day of recognition like Flag day lol...

Gay people are only different because of there sexuality. Race is another story. So for them to ask for equal rights is so ridiculous. Everyone is discriminated against. Blacks whites Muslims Jews Christians Gays. In some way shape or form you are going to be discriminated against what ever the **** you are. Yes civil rights is a problem in some scenarios, but in others i feel its very appropriate. And yeah a persons sexuality could effect me. If a man came and hit on me or drugged me and tried to have his way with me id have a slight problem with that. Think outside of the box for a second.

Here Ill give you a scenario. a few months back I was on my way to my parents house in NY from my home in PA. In a rest stop called plum beach over by far rockaway I pulled over to take a piss. the bathrooms were locked so I walk into a path in the woods and as Im undoing my belt a guy starts walking down the path. I quickly zip my shit up and i was like "Jeez i cant find a desolate spot around here to piss." With out hesitation the guy points to the tree right in front of him and in a very feminine voice says " No one is going to see" and smiled. He doesnt say hey buddy down the path theres a spot... or ill look out go here... he points to the tree that is 3 feet in front of him. So i was like "Ummm ok" and walked by him to find a place to piss... I find a clearing and im like ok nice. As im going... Im looking at the floor... and theres at least a hundred used condoms and magnum wrappers all over the floor. I said to my self " Who brings there girl here... thats classy" 2 seconds later I hear some rustling in the brush behind me and than it ****in hit me... " NO!!! NO ONE BRINGS THEIR GIRLFRIEND HERE... THEY BRING THEIR BOYFRIEND HERE!!!!!" and i quickly wrapped up and I turn around and theres that ****in FAG right there on the trail watching me. Now im not a bitch, but I was definitely nervous. This guy could of had a knife or a gun and been like "Suck It or Die Bitch". So i start walking towards him to go to my car... and hes standing in the middle of the trail not moving... so i made a quick left turn off the path to the parking lot. So yeah... I think homosexuality can ****in effect me.

[x_moe]

hehe I was just messing with you man

everyone is going to hate me now

[Lexed]

my buddy had a gay roomate and he brought mad bitchs so its not so bad. To bad he had no game and didnt get any of them.

[x_moe]

i was living at a house 2yrs ago with 5 roommates, they all guys, we went to college together. one of them used to act gay sometimes, we wernt sure so we asked him but he never admited that he's gay, well atleast to us, and keeps sayin that hes straight, anyway one night we went into his room when he wasnt home and looked thro his closet and saw guy t-shirts that say 'princess' on them. it was too damn funny, and that was enough proof to know he's gay.

[Logan13]

well good luck to u mate,i really didnt need to know all that but its up to u if u wanna share it with all insundry,i kinda figured that was the case from ur avy long before this post anyhow

That's kinda how I feel as well. Why do so many feel compelled to share their bedroom activities?

[bpm1]

i was living at a house 2yrs ago with 5 roommates, they all guys, we went to college together. one of them used to act gay sometimes, we wernt sure so we asked him but he never admited that he's gay, well atleast to us, and keeps sayin that hes straight, anyway one night we went into his room when he wasnt home and looked thro his closet and saw guy t-shirts that say 'princess' on them. it was too damn funny, and that was enough proof to know he's gay.

wait...if that means ur gay.......id better toss that shirt......

[Logan13]

From the words of Andrew "Dice" Clay

There is no BI

You either suck dick or you don't suck dick

.........LOLOL

I am sure you can be BI, just felt that quote fit here

Can people be hetero and homo beastifials as well?

[Carlos_E]

Just live your life for you and you only because you only get one. Just remember that this doesn't give you a free pass to hurt people in the process. Don't lead people on.

Hmm... I remember giving someone advice like this. I don't remember who it was though... do you?

[x_moe]

wait...if that means ur gay.......id better toss that shirt......

dont toss it, learn to accept yourself, we are all here for you.

[x_moe]

I have a good question. Do gay people cheat ?

[gixxerboy1]

Not officially holidays but a day of recognition like Flag day lol...

Gay people are only different because of there sexuality. Race is another story. So for them to ask for equal rights is so ridiculous. Everyone is discriminated against. Blacks whites Muslims Jews Christians Gays. In some way shape or form you are going to be discriminated against what ever the **** you are. Yes civil rights is a problem in some scenarios, but in others i feel its very appropriate. And yeah a persons sexuality could effect me. If a man came and hit on me or drugged me and tried to have his way with me id have a slight problem with that. Think outside of the box for a second.

Here Ill give you a scenario. a few months back I was on my way to my parents house in NY from my home in PA. In a rest stop called plum beach over by far rockaway I pulled over to take a piss. the bathrooms were locked so I walk into a path in the woods and as Im undoing my belt a guy starts walking down the path. I quickly zip my shit up and i was like "Jeez i cant find a desolate spot around here to piss." With out hesitation the guy points to the tree right in front of him and in a very feminine voice says " No one is going to see" and smiled. He doesnt say hey buddy down the path theres a spot... or ill look out go here... he points to the tree that is 3 feet in front of him. So i was like "Ummm ok" and walked by him to find a place to piss... I find a clearing and im like ok nice. As im going... Im looking at the floor... and theres at least a hundred used condoms and magnum wrappers all over the floor. I said to my self " Who brings there girl here... thats classy" 2 seconds later I hear some rustling in the brush behind me and than it ****in hit me... " NO!!! NO ONE BRINGS THEIR GIRLFRIEND HERE... THEY BRING THEIR BOYFRIEND HERE!!!!!" and i quickly wrapped up and I turn around and theres that ****in FAG right there on the trail watching me. Now im not a bitch, but I was definitely nervous. This guy could of had a knife or a gun and been like "Suck It or Die Bitch". So i start walking towards him to go to my car... and hes standing in the middle of the trail not moving... so i made a quick left turn off the path to the parking lot. So yeah... I think homosexuality can ****in effect me.

That's the most ridiculous argument i've ever heard. I guess woman can argue that heterosexuality shouldn't be aloud because a straight man can do that to her

[Carlos_E]

That's the most ridiculous argument i've ever heard. I guess woman can argue that heterosexuality shouldn't be aloud because a straight man can do that to her

Notice most have ignored his posts? It's just not worth the energy.

[Carlos_E]

I have a good question. Do gay people cheat ?

Some do. Just like straight people. Hoes!

[Coop77]

Not officially holidays but a day of recognition like Flag day lol...

I've never heard of this.

Gay people are only different because of there sexuality. Race is another story. So for them to ask for equal rights is so ridiculous.

That's quite a profound statement. Equal rights = ridiculous? I don't know what you think "equal rights" means. If you're talking about special rights, like preference in employment, and crap like that, I'd agree with you, but I've never heard of gays asking for that. They just want to be treated the same as everyone else.

And yeah a persons sexuality could effect me. If a man came and hit on me or drugged me and tried to have his way with me id have a slight problem with that. Think outside of the box for a second.

Here Ill give you a scenario. a few months back I was on my way to my parents house in NY from my home in PA. In a rest stop called plum beach over by far rockaway I pulled over to take a piss. the bathrooms were locked so I walk into a path in the woods and as Im undoing my belt a guy starts walking down the path. I quickly zip my shit up and i was like "Jeez i cant find a desolate spot around here to piss." With out hesitation the guy points to the tree right in front of him and in a very feminine voice says " No one is going to see" and smiled. He doesnt say hey buddy down the path theres a spot... or ill look out go here... he points to the tree that is 3 feet in front of him. So i was like "Ummm ok" and walked by him to find a place to piss... I find a clearing and im like ok nice. As im going... Im looking at the floor... and theres at least a hundred used condoms and magnum wrappers all over the floor. I said to my self " Who brings there girl here... thats classy" 2 seconds later I hear some rustling in the brush behind me and than it ****in hit me... " NO!!! NO ONE BRINGS THEIR GIRLFRIEND HERE... THEY BRING THEIR BOYFRIEND HERE!!!!!" and i quickly wrapped up and I turn around and theres that ****in FAG right there on the trail watching me. Now im not a bitch, but I was definitely nervous. This guy could of had a knife or a gun and been like "Suck It or Die Bitch". So i start walking towards him to go to my car... and hes standing in the middle of the trail not moving... so i made a quick left turn off the path to the parking lot. So yeah... I think homosexuality can ****in effect me.

Ok. Sounds like sexual assault and people performing lewd acts in the bushes can affect you. I agree if someone's raping you, their sexuality probably makes a difference. Pervy heterosexual guys make women feel like this all the time. Pervy gay guys are no different. So what was the point again?

[Lexed]

Butt Secks I got nothing against Homosexuals except for the manly lesbians.... they just scare me

[DSM4Life]

Notice most have ignored his posts? It's just not worth the energy.

HAHAH you hit the nail right on the head with that one.

Hmm... I remember giving someone advice like this. I don't remember who it was though... do you?

hmmm i can't quite seem to put my finger on it at the moment. I'll get back to you on that

[tadpoleboyy]

i respect being people geing gay/lesbian if they respect me being straight. Like if a gay man hit on me knowing that i was straight, i would be rather angry. Yes i do think its kinda gross for two men to have sex or whatever, but everyones got an oppinion. I think cabbage is gross, doesnt mean its wrong.

To tell ya the truth, i actually understand where gay men come from, especially when my gf is raging PMS and being all emotional, i just cant understand why she cant chill the fvck out and not be controlled by her emotions. Maybe being with another man would be a bit more rational and less emotional and laid back? Maybe not... i dont know. But i like women way too much and think the female body is a beautiful thing. Although if i had a kid, i dont know how i'd feel if he/she were gay/ lesbian.

I do not understand the whole gay accent/lisp thing, however. Why? What is the purpose? Is it always like that, or aquired?

[ronan the barbarian]

btw is it just black guys who dont like u dating a black girl or white guys too,just curious about that one[/QUOTE]


mainly black guys but the older white guys often stare too...


my point is being misseen here....the whole gay pride/easter thing,is nothing to do with what im saying....

let me give everyone an example.

im straight but i dont tell all gay people who will listen 'im straight,and proud' and then go to my straight club/pub,dance to straight music sang by sraight icons while looking round parks and toilets hunting for straight sex,all the time talking in a straight way while organising my straight parade.

oh and to the idiot who says gay pride is about not being ashamed about being gay......honestly nobody (under 40.imo) cares if your gay or not,so why go on about it?

[thetank]

im straight but i dont tell all gay people who will listen 'im straight,and proud' and then go to my straight club/pub,dance to straight music sang by sraight icons while looking round parks and toilets hunting for straight sex,all the time talking in a straight way while organising my straight parade.

oh and to the idiot who says gay pride is about not being ashamed about being gay......honestly nobody (under 40.imo) cares if your gay or not,so why go on about it?

ok..but you(and I), are a spoke in the wheel of the biggest majority there is.. who doesnt know what it feels like to be hated for who and what you are.we never had to fight to be accepted, or even just tolerated. as a straight white guy, what kind of prejudice have you ever experienced? what alienates you? aboslutely nothing. and thats why you dont understand..its not in my experience but i can empathize, and thats why i can.
and to compair what your saying to another public recognition of a specific piece of our culture..there is a black history month right? so why isint there a white history month?

[Renesis]

Screw it I just realised my post totally contradicted itself -.-

[BigLittleTim]

I do... think it was intrusive to ask to be a part of the St.Patricks parade. Catholics don't endorse homosexuality, and are against it, so it was a slap in the face to ask and later protest to be in that parade. It's similar to Moslems or abortionists asking to be in the St.Pats parade...it was very out of line and disrespectful.

Saint Patrick's Day Parade is a celebration of being IRISH , not CATHOLIC as anyone who's been to one could tell ya.

There's a big orange stripe on the Irish flag which says that the Republic of Ireland belongs to ALL Irishmen; Catholic, Protestant, Budhist, or Secular Humanist for that matter.

An Irish gay organization has as much right to march in an Irish parade as the "Loyal Order of Irish Iron Workers", or the "Irish-American Travel Agents Association."

The Supreme Court said that because it's a PRIVATELY ORGANIZED parade, the organizers can exclude anyone they want. It had nothing to do with separation of Church and State.

[BigLittleTim]

... anyway one night we went into his room when he wasnt home and looked thro his closet and saw guy t-shirts that say 'princess' on them. it was too damn funny, and that was enough proof to know he's gay.

There IS something delicious about a 270 lb. muscle-boy wearing a pink"Daddy's Little Princess" t-shirt to Tea Dance...



-BigLittleTim

[BigLittleTim]

Remember when you were a kid and you had to go out for some long, boring, involved brunch with your whole extended family on Mother's Day or Father's Day?

Remember you asked your parents: "Why is there a Mothers' Day and a Fathers' Day, but there's no Children's Day?"

Now, do you remember what your parents said?



-BigLittleTim

[magic32]

Hmmm.

[crazycrab]

I live in an area with quite a few gay men and weman. They do not bother me and they seem to help keep the neighbor hood up. I am in the retail bussiness and they buy from me so I am OK with that.

[DSM4Life]

Remember when you were a kid and you had to go out for some long, boring, involved brunch with your whole extended family on Mother's Day or Father's Day?

Remember you asked your parents: "Why is there a Mothers' Day and a Fathers' Day, but there's no Children's Day?"

Now, do you remember what your parents said?



-BigLittleTim

Everyday is childrens day ?!

[DSM4Life]

Wow!

DSM,

Just to open the lines of dialogue, your statement "Kind of an odd question since it insinuates that being gay is a choice...", reveals an ideology that there is NO choice. May I ask from what you base this belief?

ummm i am living it.

All my life i been surrounded with straight people. I was taught that being with a girl was what males do and i just followed suite. Now how do you explain one day out of the blue me looking up gay porn ? At that time I had no gay influence/friends in my life. So one day I just checked it out and was hooked. I was hooked just like you when you first looked at a porn magazine with your friends and went crazy. Then i felt this attraction pulling me closer and closer. I no longer wanted to just look at guys online/mag but wanted to try things with another guy. i fought my feelings till i could no longer stand it and "gave in."


I tell people that i fought these feelings for years and they nod their heads and say "uh huh" like your being told 2+2=4. It’s not that simple. To help you understand where i am coming from think of it this way. What if i came to you and said hey magic32 i want you to no longer be attracted to/date/have sex with women? You would laugh in my face. Why ? Because you find it ridiculous. You would say but that’s what I am attracted to. The same goes for me. I look at another guy and get the same feelings you get when you look at a girl.

Hope this answered your question.

I hope this maked sense because i have sirius playing in the backround as i was typing this.

[DSM4Life]

With all due respect please don't bring in religion. If you do i will ask for this thread to be locked.

[Coop77]

oh and to the idiot who says gay pride is about not being ashamed about being gay......honestly nobody (under 40.imo) cares if your gay or not,so why go on about it?

I guess you're talking about me. To answer your question, the parades have been going on since the '60s when society was a lot less tolerant. By now they're less political and more commercial. They have corporate sponsors (beer companies, etc) and are mostly just an annual fun parade, like the St Patricks day parade.

the idiot