If you're over 5'10" and under 170lbs read this...

**Big** · 07-12-2009, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by xo3et

Dam i see what this thread is all about now,.

Soooo many people asking for advice on gear when they are eating about as much as my 12yr old nephew..

hell my 12 year old son has better stats than some of these guys.
I loved the thread from earlier "I'm 6'3" and 145lbs, I've reached my potential and need a boost..."

**xo3et** · 07-12-2009, 01:51 PM

^^ I know man, its just crazy people think like this,. I just dont understand some people, this chap in my gym asked me how id done so well this year on gaining size. The next day i had a copy of my diet to show him and he was in COMPLETE shock how much i eat.

He told me he didn't realize it was that important and then went on to tell me he was focusing on chest exercises, he told me his friend is really into training and knows his stuff then when he told me he is training his chest 3 times a week i nearly cried. His friend had ZERO clue and was educating his mate on his stupid routines.

I just laughed and had to carry on with my sets.

**jamyjamjr** · 07-12-2009, 01:59 PM

yea i just had this same issue in the diet section...

guy wanted to eat 2000kcal a day... lmfao... at 5'11 170lbs too...

**Reed** · 07-12-2009, 02:00 PM

I love the ones that believe they eat 5000+ clean calories and then when they list its more like half that

**Big** · 10-02-2009, 09:54 PM

judging by some of the threads I just read, time to bring this back to the top. who needs food when you can take steroids , right kiddies?

**stack_it** · 10-02-2009, 10:01 PM

What is this diet thing you speak of. I will have no part of it!

**Big** · 10-02-2009, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by stack_it

What is this diet thing you speak of. I will have no part of it!

I know, right? that's no where near as glamorous as using steroids .

**Nicotine** · 10-02-2009, 11:26 PM

hey big.

so, im eating peanut m&m's right now.

they should help me get huge right?

600mg/week of delatestryl!

woohaw.........

(cheat treat tonight)

also, i tried to pm you. but you hate me

**Big** · 10-02-2009, 11:37 PM

ok my pm's are on for now, I can't seem to make it through a day without peeps begging me for a source, which I wouldn't give if I could. I get tired of it and turn them off.

**Big** · 10-05-2009, 09:27 PM

another bump, the need for this just never seems to die down.

***El Diablo*** · 10-06-2009, 02:48 AM

Spump

Hi.. im 6'5, 275lb's and 9% bf. Can u tell me which steroids to take to reach 400lb's?
PS.. it has to be orals.

**stpete** · 10-06-2009, 03:52 AM

Damn.....I've been looking for this. Seems some newbs needs answers and this thread instantly came to mind. You don't mind if i use it from time to time do you?

**jolseen** · 10-06-2009, 12:47 PM

5"9" 200lbs here

**peachfuzz** · 10-12-2009, 10:29 PM

bumpity bump

**lovbyts** · 10-13-2009, 12:45 AM

5' 8" when I was in my 20s I THOUGHT I could not get over 160 lbs MAX. I worked out 5-6 days a week 1 1/2 - 2 hrs a day and ate what I though was a lot only thing is knowing what I know now it was mostly empty calories.

If I had eaten chicken, tuna, fish, veg and other food like I should I could have easily gotten up to 180 in no time.

I was also over training and not training right. My form was not bad but I just didnt now enough.

I would have sworn or bet 1mil dollars my diet was great and I was doing everything correctly.

#1 is diet for loosing fat and gaining lean muscle.

**lovbyts** · 10-13-2009, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by *El Diablo*

Spump

Hi.. im 6'5, 275lb's and 9% bf. Can u tell me which steroids to take to reach 400lb's?
PS.. it has to be orals.

Yes fooderal as stated before and tie a 125 lb concrete block around your neck.

**Big** · 10-17-2009, 10:47 AM

good lord it never ends. bump for today's crop.

**marcus300** · 10-17-2009, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Big

good lord it never ends. bump for today's crop.

I am getting very tired with people not listening to good solid advice and just waiting for what they want to hear and thats normally from some kid who doesnt know sh1t anyway.

Very frustrating.

This needs moving to the AAS section

**Big** · 10-17-2009, 10:55 AM

me too marcus. I am here in hopes of helping people achieve their goals, it's so frustrating when they aren't at all satisfied with where they are, then act like they know more than we do when we try to advise.

**marcus300** · 10-17-2009, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Big

me too marcus. I am here in hopes of helping people achieve their goals, it's so frustrating when they aren't at all satisfied with where they are, then act like they know more than we do when we try to advise.

What is happening also is some newer guys are now giving advice to newbies and these newer guys are the ones who didnt listen in the first place.

I think a firmer stand is need because its getting out of hand,

Hopefully things will change soon.

**goose** · 10-17-2009, 11:02 AM

If people only knew,that food,when used correctly is more devastating than any drug.

**marcus300** · 10-17-2009, 11:19 AM

Big - re-write this and post it in the AAS section,

**kalspic** · 10-19-2009, 09:36 AM

dont think your efforts are all wasted. you guys got to me and im sure others. now i just need to figure how to work a dieted into my daily schedual.

**Big** · 10-19-2009, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by kalspic

dont think your efforts are all wasted. you guys got to me and im sure others. now i just need to figure how to work a dieted into my daily schedual.

that's good to hear, even if we only point one guy out of 100 in the right direction it's worth it. fitting a proper diet into a busy day is a pain in the arse, you have to get creative with stored foods and such to fit the schedule.

**kalspic** · 10-19-2009, 08:55 PM

im working on it. you would think it would be easy working in a kitchen but it isnt. once i figure out a workable schedule then ill post a propsed diet.

**Big** · 10-20-2009, 12:38 PM

ttt^

**calgarian** · 10-20-2009, 01:05 PM

so let me guess....
u guys want me to work out and be on a diet while I am using steroids ???

I thought I be big (or like big) after I just take steroids and sit on the couch...damn too much work

**JDawg1536** · 10-21-2009, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by calgarian

so let me guess....
u guys want me to work out and be on a diet while I am using steroids ???

I thought I be big (or like big) after I just take steroids and sit on the couch...damn too much work

For real. Why else would you take em?

**stack_it** · 11-02-2009, 12:42 AM

Just got bumpy in here

**yannick35** · 11-02-2009, 02:03 PM

Man that reminds me of myself about 20 years ago, i did not want to do steroids but i was always crying i was skinny and small.

Now today i would give anything to get back to that bodyweight LOL

**Big** · 11-08-2009, 03:40 PM

ttt^

**Big** · 11-08-2009, 07:06 PM

bump again for the never-ending parade of skinny new guys.

**jbm** · 11-09-2009, 01:00 AM

**stack_it** · 12-24-2009, 11:51 AM

Bump for the holidays

**vaders4** · 12-26-2009, 08:25 PM

Guys I'm PROOF that you do not need steroids to gain weight.

I've been a hard gainer ALL MY LIFE, and up until 8 months ago I was 150-155LBS at 6 foot tall!

After 8 months of eating like a BEAST and BUSTING MY ASS in the gym, this is how I stand now, 185lbs and I think I look pretty solid.

The first pic is EXACTLY how I was built before I started lifting.

The second pic is me 8 months later.

**peachfuzz** · 12-26-2009, 08:29 PM

^very nice. imagine where youll be this time next year...

**vaders4** · 12-26-2009, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by peachfuzz

^very nice. imagine where youll be this time next year...

I'm starting to really slow down with my gains in size, but still slowly gaining strength.

When I started 45lbs dumbell flat bench was my max, now I'm at 105's.

I'm twice as strong in every single aspect.

For my 30th birthday I might do a test-c cycle for 12wks (500mg per week) and see where that gets me

I DO however believe genetics do play a role in how big you can/will get naturally. EVERY male in my family is extremely thin. I am by far the largest male (with the exception of my great uncle who was a freak).

I am a giant compared to the other men in my family as far as size goes. My Genetics just make me VERY lean (even as I'm nearing 30, I do not have to even do a sit up for a 6 pack).

But that aside, no one and I mean NO ONE who has never even picked up a weight and has a shitty diet has ANY BUSINESS touching a steroid .

Steroids aren't the smoking gun, you MUST eat right, train hard, and sleep well in order to grow.

**peachfuzz** · 12-26-2009, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by vaders4

I'm starting to really slow down with my gains in size, but still slowly gaining strength.

remember that as you grow so does your caloric needs. adjust accordingly and you should have no problem continuing to grow.

**vaders4** · 12-26-2009, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by peachfuzz

remember that as you grow so does your caloric needs. adjust accordingly and you should have no problem continuing to grow.

Yup! I know this is going to sound a little.. strange.. but when I first started lifting/eating right - I was litterally stuffing my face. After about a month of doing it, I felt this odd sensation where my stomach is, almost as if my stomach was stretching out from all the food?

It went away after a month, and my appetite is really intense. I eat huge portions and only eat foods with high protein. My diet is finally really locked in and it's showing.

I also feel like all the protein I am consuming makes my muscles.. full all the time? Anyways, I just got done eating a steak and potatoes an hr ago, now its time for a protein shake