Abortion

[DSM4Life]

i knew u were a placenta eater!!

I searched for "placenta " on calorie count.com and didn't get any results.

[Flagg]

flagg, i hope not...but if so, so b it

No man will ever go through pregnancy. So no man has the right to tell a WOMAN what she can and cant do with her body.

Are we going to get to a stage in life where technology can prolong life and dying of natural causes will be deemed illegal?? I mean where do we draw the line on stuff like this?

[Matt]

I'll stop you right there. So if the mother wants to abort the baby but the father wants to raise it he has no right ?

Touchy touchy.

Could they not chope it in two??

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Could they not chope it in two??

[ni4ni]

I searched for "placenta " on calorie count.com and didn't get any results.

u didn't find it because its under VAGINA

[Matt]

You guy's just arnt taking me serious...

[ni4ni]

You guy's just arnt taking me serious...

the hell we arent- who told you differently?

[Matt]

I going to go and have sex with a placenta..............

Good night.......

[ni4ni]

I going to go and have sex with a placenta..............

Good night.......

dont 4get to shower after...kinda messy

[Hunter]

I am against it except in certain cases. However I am also against old man in washington telling a person what to do in with there body. Untill science can say yes those cells most deffiantly are a baby(like I believe) I think it should stay legal but with tighter control. I however am not for it at all.

[CHAP]

trie dto get my girlfriend to have one. She was 15 IO was 17 . Thak god she said NO . Now we are married my little girl is 8 my son is 5. I am not saying that it hasent been hard because it has but there have been great times that I never would have imagined

[mho]

When the baby is still a zygote or whatever that fckin thing is called, I think that's ok. But when the baby is a living human being (fetal stage), I think it's wrong. I think the the argument that abortions are ok because a woman has a right to do with her body what she chooses as provided by the constitution is asinine. I mean seriously how can killing people in this way be legal and gear isn't? It doesn't make much sense to me.

[JiGGaMaN]

i would get one if i could. good way to drop a few pounds.

[mho]

The hard part is finding out when it becomes a "baby"
A ball of cells with no human features or functions isn't a baby imo...

~8 weeks into fertilization it has a heart beat and it begins to take on the form of a human being.

[Hoggage_54]

[mho]

I am against it except in certain cases. However I am also against old man in washington telling a person what to do in with there body. Untill science can say yes those cells most deffiantly are a baby(like I believe) I think it should stay legal but with tighter control. I however am not for it at all.

And then when they say those cells are a baby, we just say oops we've been murdering people for like 40 years now?

[Hunter]

And then when they say those cells are a baby, we just say oops we've been murdering people for like 40 years now?

I dont believe in abortion except in certain cases as stated. I dont know how the goverment would respond to it if for what ever reason it was overturned in the supreme court. To be honest I really dont ever think about it becouse it will never be over turned. I worry about my family and myself as selfish as that sounds. My girlfriend has the same beliefs as me and so does my family so I really dont stay up at night wondering what will happen if it does get over turned.

[Lightsout2184]

im against abortion but pro womens choice

[jbm]

No comment!

[WARMachine]

God this is a thread that is probably going to turn nasty and personal fast.

I'm Pro-Choice over Pro-Life, always have been, always will be. A woman has the right to do what she wants. Whether anyone agrees with her is irrelivant, it's her body. No one should have the right to tell another human being what they can and cant do with their body.

Laws on abortion need to be readjusted. For instance these career women that get knocked up and abort because it's getting in the way of their career, that's ****ed up. Personally I think there should be laws on aborting but only in certain situations.

Take for example a 13 year old girl that has been brutally raped. Should she be forced to go through pregnancy because of that experience? No way.

I can see how women could have a say in this matter, but I dont think any man have any say in what a woman can and cant do with her body.

^ Agreed.

~8 weeks into fertilization it has a heart beat and it begins to take on the form of a human being.

If thats the case, then 8 weeks should be the limit. Ive heard some places (not in the US) preform abortions up to 6 months. Now thats just sick...

[Theatrix]

Passionate subject with many opinions. Why we feel it necessary to legislate or impose ones mind in an area that should absolutely be between the two individuals involved is just nonsense. It is impossible to determine whether it is appropriate or not unless one understands the circumstances.
Children are not things that we should do on impulse or because it is an accident, nor should we condemn a child to a life of disfunction because two people decided to screw one night.
I have four, the first two will be going to college this September. It requires thought, planning, determination, means, commitment. Why would you leave all these things to chance because of a mistake. Is it the responsible decision to follow through with a pregnancy when the time is not right? If the two individuals are truely meant for each other, then the opportunity to have children will be there in the future with the proper planning. Don't make this a religous issue, but rather an intelligent one. The consequences to ones life is life long and not limited to just the two who had their fun.

[spywizard]

At what age in development does the father have the right to Kill the baby??

I mean partial birth abortions are legal here.. And in other countries it is legal to kill your wife under many frivolous instances..

How about getting prego with the intention of harvesting the stim cells in a late term abortion?? that ok??

God this is a thread that is probably going to turn nasty and personal fast.

I'm Pro-Choice over Pro-Life, always have been, always will be. A woman has the right to do what she wants. Whether anyone agrees with her is irrelivant, it's her body. No one should have the right to tell another human being what they can and cant do with their body.

Laws on abortion need to be readjusted. For instance these career women that get knocked up and abort because it's getting in the way of their career, that's ****ed up. Personally I think there should be laws on aborting but only in certain situations.

Take for example a 13 year old girl that has been brutally raped. Should she be forced to go through pregnancy because of that experience? No way.

I can see how women could have a say in this matter, but I dont think any man have any say in what a woman can and cant do with her body.

[spywizard]

what happened to equality??

women have choices??

men have responsibilities.??

[DSM4Life]

what happened to equality??

This is America, no such thing.

women have choices??

Yes, cook on the stove or in the oven

men have responsibilities.??

Yes, eat the food that the woman cooked.




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[QuieTSToRM33]

Pro Choice

[jfalco]

Passionate subject with many opinions. Why we feel it necessary to legislate or impose ones mind in an area that should absolutely be between the two individuals involved is just nonsense. It is impossible to determine whether it is appropriate or not unless one understands the circumstances.
Children are not things that we should do on impulse or because it is an accident, nor should we condemn a child to a life of disfunction because two people decided to screw one night.
I have four, the first two will be going to college this September. It requires thought, planning, determination, means, commitment. Why would you leave all these things to chance because of a mistake. Is it the responsible decision to follow through with a pregnancy when the time is not right? If the two individuals are truely meant for each other, then the opportunity to have children will be there in the future with the proper planning. Don't make this a religous issue, but rather an intelligent one. The consequences to ones life is life long and not limited to just the two who had their fun.

great post

[spywizard]

Yes, eat the food that the woman cooked.




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i did, but was left feeling empty and unfulfilled due to no digital image portraying the indifference you were attempting to portray.

[amcon]

What are everyones opinions on abortion. A few years back the GF and I had a pregnancy scare which turned out to be nothing. We were young and certainly not prepared for a baby and before she even took a pregnancy test the idea of an abortion came up and it was entertained as a valid option. Now being much older and mature I have a completely different outlook on abortion, I think it is wrong with the exception of a baby conceived from rape. Plus I am now officially an uncle. My sister is a young parent and she did the right thing by keeping the baby and doing everything she can to be a good parent. Just wanted to hear what some peoples opinions were on the subject

i used to be gray in this area, i am a christian and really didnt think i as a man had a right to tell a woman what to do or not to do with their bodies...

then i had a baby that was born at 26 week and 4 day that is four months early she weighted in at 1.5 lbs... she came out screaming and kicking and finger nails and full head of hair... babies are babies and if we kill them either in the mommy tummy or out it is murder - since my first daughter was born i have had 4 more children and all but one was a "preeme" and each time i am blown away that some stated do abortions as late as 1 week before birth...

conception is conseption of a baby not a thing - dont kill - no gray area

[Tigershark]

I agree with abortion, you should also be allowed to eat it...

I eat 12 chicken abortions a day. Does that count?

[BgMc31]

Against it, but I totally support a woman's right to choose. Having an 18yr old daughter, if she got pregnant and decided to have an abortion because it would severly hinder her future, I would support her 100%.

[collar]

each to their own i say.
does it effect me nope, ummm my opinion on it, if my gf fell pregnant at this time of my life no would not have the baby cause i am not ready.

Maybe in 3 to 5 years completly different situation.

also i do think it can be a good thing, if like for example the doctors tell you that the baby will come out sick or umm you know not normal.
it might be good thing not to bring the baby into this world.

[pyrat]

[thegodfather]

I think a pre-requesite to discussing matters which you plan to impose your will or viewpoints on others via force/coercion should be at least being able to form coherent sentences. I can't even read some of the things people have written in this thread. Can I really take your argument seriously if you construct your arguments similar to that of a 6th grade education?

Now that thats out of the way. Abortion should be left up to the states to decide. In addition, the rationale is usually whether the States interest in the child outweighs the mothers interest in aborting the birth. The point at which this occurs is usually determined by whether the fetus is 'viable.' It's important to understand that this point is receding with time. As our technology advances the fetus will be viable much earlier in gestation. My hope is, that technology advances to the point that even a zygote becomes viable, perhaps via an artificial womb of some sort. This would in turn let the courts off the hook with having to answer the question of whether the "fetus is a person," and at what point life begins. This is a difficult question because it is not only a medical question, but a legal question as well since it deals with murder.

I must also point out that it is interesting that we would considered single celled organisms like Amoeba's on another planet "life" in the solar system, yet we dont extend the same courtesy to a fertilized egg in a human body.

[BgMc31]

I think a pre-requesite to discussing matters which you plan to impose your will or viewpoints on others via force/coercion should be at least being able to form coherent sentences. I can't even read some of the things people have written in this thread. Can I really take your argument seriously if you construct your arguments similar to that of a 6th grade education?

Now that thats out of the way. Abortion should be left up to the states to decide. In addition, the rationale is usually whether the States interest in the child outweighs the mothers interest in aborting the birth. The point at which this occurs is usually determined by whether the fetus is 'viable.' It's important to understand that this point is receding with time. As our technology advances the fetus will be viable much earlier in gestation. My hope is, that technology advances to the point that even a zygote becomes viable, perhaps via an artificial womb of some sort. This would in turn let the courts off the hook with having to answer the question of whether the "fetus is a person," and at what point life begins. This is a difficult question because it is not only a medical question, but a legal question as well since it deals with murder.

I must also point out that it is interesting that we would considered single celled organisms like Amoeba's on another planet "life" in the solar system, yet we dont extend the same courtesy to a fertilized egg in a human body.

Interesting point Godfather, but we also have no problem destroying other forms of life as well. Dogs and cats are euthanized by the millions across this country on a regular basis. Is that morally wrong as well?

[thegodfather]

Interesting point Godfather, but we also have no problem destroying other forms of life as well. Dogs and cats are euthanized by the millions across this country on a regular basis. Is that morally wrong as well?

I dont comment to morals. Morals have absolutely no business being legislated. I will say that from a legal standpoint, one is highly unlikely to be sentenced to life in prison or the death penalty for killing a dog or a cat. The legal system places a much higher value on human life. If we conceded that even a zygote is a form of human life, then we can assume that it's afforded the same protections as a fully grown and developed human.

[countrybhoy]

No morning after pill when I was a kid.

I think you mean sorry about the baby's luck. The number one indicator of poverty in the U.S. is teen pregnancy. If kids have kids it is a virtual guarantee that both parents and child will live a life of poverty. Life of poverty often leads to life of crime. Personally I don't want to live in a society where abortions aren't allowed. As far as I know the U.S. is the only developed nation where this is still debated.

maybe your right you mum should have had you aborted . would have saved the life of the child you killed .

[DSM4Life]

[vpchill]

My Mother always said she wish she had an abortion when she had me.

[zimmy]

I'm against it people doing it but i'm also against the government deciding if it should be allowed or not.

[Anabolios]

trie dto get my girlfriend to have one. She was 15 IO was 17 . Thak god she said NO . Now we are married my little girl is 8 my son is 5. I am not saying that it hasent been hard because it has but there have been great times that I never would have imagined

GREAT POST

This is the main reason I started this thread. My sister was a little older than that but she decided to go ahead with birth and now she has a beautiful daughter. I cant iimagine 7-8 months ago abortion would have been an option and she wouldve carried on with life as normal living with the fact that she shouldve been a parent. I am pro-choice but am totally against it now. 1 year ago or less I was all for abortion. I guess once something relative to the subject hits closer to home its easier to form a valid opinion