Depressed? A healthy way out!

[hammerheart]

Damn B.

I have been taking ZMA right before bed and it has been helping me. I also think I have sleep apnea

What is your daily routine? Or do you have one?

I'm not sure how one can do w/o daily routine but my sleep patterns usually consist of about six hrs of sleep between 12 and 7am.

What works best for me are DA and melatonin. I've tried some xanax but I get anxious from it. Drugs kind of work the opposite way for me.

Sleep apnea you can check for it.

[RaginCajun]

I'm not sure how one can do w/o daily routine but my sleep patterns usually consist of about six hrs of sleep between 12 and 7am.

What works best for me are DA and melatonin. I've tried some xanax but I get anxious from it. Drugs kind of work the opposite way for me.

Sleep apnea you can check for it.

i avg about 6 hours a night, 11pm to 5am

i do not know what it feels like to sleep for more than 8 hours, can't tell you the last time that has happened.

are you wearing yourself out, physically? maybe that can overcome the mental part of it, exhaust the shit out of yourself

[hammerheart]

i avg about 6 hours a night, 11pm to 5am

i do not know what it feels like to sleep for more than 8 hours, can't tell you the last time that has happened.

are you wearing yourself out, physically? maybe that can overcome the mental part of it, exhaust the shit out of yourself

Total amount of time doesn't matter that much as quality, I wake up exhausted actually even after 10hrs of sleep and last time I had a truly refreshing one I was still a teenage probably.

[NACH3]

Went and got my neck and back done but by a reiki specialist and all I gotta say is it worked well... she did say it was tough to even get through the muscle into the nerves - weird thing I slept the whole time but like I heard her inner self chanting stuff.... Idk but it's seemed to work lol[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, I'm not feeling up to lifting and it feels I'm at a crossroads... I know I'm strong while doing HIT - but the longevity of it seems almost impossible... just feeling a bit down atm... I know it'll pass it's just such a mindfuck!

I love lifting heavy and am setting PRs 295 for MP at 6+ reps with forced reps yet feel like I'm burning myself out or one thing I know I'm not eating enough either!

Any thoughts that can help I'm all ears... it's leading to a depressed state - I put way too much pressure on myself instead of doing what I can - also longevity is creeping into my mind?!

[Obs]

Switch up everything you can and do the opposite of what you feel. When you feel like being alone go see a friend and have a beer etc.
All I know is being still and falling into routine makes it sooo much worse, its like depression fertilizer. Good luck, hope you come out soon.

[< <Samson> >]

Sure, why not - I'll take part in the juicer depression thread


Well, for one being on any form of hormones will fuck with your mind somewhere.


Personally I feel that I have my hormoned up emotions under control quite well now.



But, man oh man do things like to test me here lately. . . Work is up & down like no other. People who I have had the most confidence in as good solid go to people turned their back on me like I never existed - even after year of being there for them.


And - now, being clean & drug free for a fairly long time I get looked down upon. . . This is after years of working my ass off to get here.


I get anxiety like no other now - without Xanax I'd never even sleep anymore.


On the positive note - all of this negative shit really doesn't depress me anymore at all. Feels like shit tho - but, I'm not depressed one bit.


It's all a mind game - and thankfully I have no "real" reason to be depressed over.

[hammerheart]

Endogenous dysfunctions can play a big role as well, I might have found a reason why the fatigue got so bad at times I barely manage to move - my cortisol (morning reading that's is) is bottomed out, should of investigate further.

[DocToxin8]

When I get really fucked up, like a recent little attack I've had,
I remember to think that if I just start by doing and think about the stuff I need to be happy, then I'll in turn be ready to spread it to others.

[Obs]

Anxiety and depression run hand in hand. Figured I would point out my issues have never fully left. I figure they won't. One of my biggest issues is when I get drunk.

Getting drunk means usually the next three days I will be totally shut off. I get anxiety so severe after being drunk that I literally try to stay to myself. Every little bad thing I have done in my life gets put on replay over and over for three days.

I do not understand it. I am not human after being drunk. I am just a shell and all I feel is self hatred. Ithas to be chemical. I like to go out and drink a few toomany sometimes butgood god it terrible afterwards.

I read a psycology bookthat said anxiety after drinking is a sure sign of alcohol dependancy and that I should staty away. I must say though, after being drunk, I usually hate the anxiety so bad I have no desire to drink for weeks. I don't believe it is dependancy. Its just some malfunction in my brain.

Not crying out for help or anything, I am in control of it, just curious if anyone else has this issue.

[NACH3]

Sure, why not - I'll take part in the juicer depression thread


Well, for one being on any form of hormones will fuck with your mind somewhere.


Personally I feel that I have my hormoned up emotions under control quite well now.



But, man oh man do things like to test me here lately. . . Work is up & down like no other. People who I have had the most confidence in as good solid go to people turned their back on me like I never existed - even after year of being there for them.

I'm in the same boat have been for yrs I literally have one best friend who'd been there for me thru everything and continues to do so
After not drinking for 10+ yrs I picked up recently for 6minths and got my first DUI put myself right back in treatment and it was more that I needed a blockage between the substance and myself more than anything but haven't touched opiates or anything hard core in almost 6yrs now crazy we can think of controlling something when we're addictes imho


And - now, being clean & drug free for a fairly long time I get looked down upon. . . This is after years of working my ass off to get here.


I get anxiety like no other now - without Xanax I'd never even sleep anymore.


On the positive note - all of this negative shit really doesn't depress me anymore at all. Feels like shit tho - but, I'm not depressed one bit.


It's all a mind game - and thankfully I have no "real" reason to be depressed over.

My anxiety is so fukin high I can't be off klonopin at all plus it's for seizures as well then tried seeming me off yet 3-4 days later had a granma seizure stopped breathing for 2+ minutes and then seized again after first coming too

I get where your coming from it does suck especially when you want to come off these drugs etc

Best of luck and hope all stays well and even gets better

[< <Samson> >]

1 - relapse later

I'm still fine - I feel that juice & gym really help me keep my head together when nothing else has a rhyme or reason.

And, I'm addicted to everything - well, after I start to like it


I am drinking at about 1/5th the rate of last year & so on. I'm not even taking xAnax for sleep anymore - maybe once a week


Just smoke this fancy new weed oil shit - fvck regi weed. Shit gave me a cough from hell & made me wheez on the treadmill. I use this crap like any other med - low as possible to get the most result.


So far, so good

[hammerheart]

Been growing pissed about training lately, was doing fairly until the week other then could only do less volume/load after each session, until barely able to manage to warm-up, exhausted at that point already. Both vascularity and pump are gone, strength went down significantly, I feel and look flabby and flat.

Getting more and more apathetic, lethargic, and fatigued, no motivation, no nothing... just a zombie mellow feeling that everything that happens is fine, can't react.

Thyroid is fine, what I did was an attempt to adjust my TRT for the better, but evidently failed. It's been years I've been putting up with regularly, with a few okay-ish bits of time here and there.

My healthy way out seems obstructed, might need to seek alternative way of treatment (as an adjunct) to compensate for the above...really tired of this crap.

[MuscleScience]

Anxiety and depression run hand in hand. Figured I would point out my issues have never fully left. I figure they won't. One of my biggest issues is when I get drunk.

Getting drunk means usually the next three days I will be totally shut off. I get anxiety so severe after being drunk that I literally try to stay to myself. Every little bad thing I have done in my life gets put on replay over and over for three days.

I do not understand it. I am not human after being drunk. I am just a shell and all I feel is self hatred. Ithas to be chemical. I like to go out and drink a few toomany sometimes butgood god it terrible afterwards.

I read a psycology bookthat said anxiety after drinking is a sure sign of alcohol dependancy and that I should staty away. I must say though, after being drunk, I usually hate the anxiety so bad I have no desire to drink for weeks. I don't believe it is dependancy. Its just some malfunction in my brain.

Not crying out for help or anything, I am in control of it, just curious if anyone else has this issue.

My anxiety is so fukin high I can't be off klonopin at all plus it's for seizures as well then tried seeming me off yet 3-4 days later had a granma seizure stopped breathing for 2+ minutes and then seized again after first coming too

I get where your coming from it does suck especially when you want to come off these drugs etc

Best of luck and hope all stays well and even gets better

1 - relapse later

I'm still fine - I feel that juice & gym really help me keep my head together when nothing else has a rhyme or reason.

And, I'm addicted to everything - well, after I start to like it


I am drinking at about 1/5th the rate of last year & so on. I'm not even taking xAnax for sleep anymore - maybe once a week


Just smoke this fancy new weed oil shit - fvck regi weed. Shit gave me a cough from hell & made me wheez on the treadmill. I use this crap like any other med - low as possible to get the most result.


So far, so good

Been growing pissed about training lately, was doing fairly until the week other then could only do less volume/load after each session, until barely able to manage to warm-up, exhausted at that point already. Both vascularity and pump are gone, strength went down significantly, I feel and look flabby and flat.

Getting more and more apathetic, lethargic, and fatigued, no motivation, no nothing... just a zombie mellow feeling that everything that happens is fine, can't react.

Thyroid is fine, what I did was an attempt to adjust my TRT for the better, but evidently failed. It's been years I've been putting up with regularly, with a few okay-ish bits of time here and there.

My healthy way out seems obstructed, might need to seek alternative way of treatment (as an adjunct) to compensate for the above...really tired of this crap.

Just stay positive guys and keep the ships bow pointed into the waves. I guess that means keep moving forward even if the tide is strong or something like that. Very few people will ever admit when they have a problem and even fewer aim to correct it. A stumble is just a stumble, try not to let a stumble spiral Further and further downward. It’s really hard to claw back up from rock bottom.

And no it’s not easy but life will never take a day off. That’s why we are so fortunate to have an outlet like we do. We can go in and in an hour or less shave off 23hrs of frustration and anger. Today, I actually got pissed off lifting. Marcus mentioned something about going at every exercise as if the weights had smacked your ol ladies arse right in front of you. (Read that last bit in a British accent in your head, it’s kinda funny.) I did that and went up 10 lbs on one of my lifts.

[Obs]

Just stay positive guys and keep the ships bow pointed into the waves. I guess that means keep moving forward even if the tide is strong or something like that. Very few people will ever admit when they have a problem and even fewer aim to correct it. A stumble is just a stumble, try not to let a stumble spiral Further and further downward. It’s really hard to claw back up from rock bottom.

And no it’s not easy but life will never take a day off. That’s why we are so fortunate to have an outlet like we do. We can go in and in an hour or less shave off 23hrs of frustration and anger. Today, I actually got pissed off lifting. Marcus mentioned something about going at every exercise as if the weights had smacked your ol ladies arse right in front of you. (Read that last bit in a British accent in your head, it’s kinda funny.) I did that and went up 10 lbs on one of my lifts.

Anger can help overcome many things.
I have gotten to a natural point where when I feel defeated I shut off everything and it all turns to hatred and anger.

Giving up is not possible if you channel emotions properly. That doesnt mean you go around being an ass hat or hurt/ be mean to people but you can damn sure keep a fire under your feet. It has worked in business and the gym for me.

It kinda works in bed too...

[MuscleScience]

Anger can help overcome many things.
I have gotten to a natural point where when I feel defeated I shut off everything and it all turns to hatred and anger.

Giving up is not possible if you channel emotions properly. That doesnt mean you go around being an ass hat or hurt/ be mean to people but you can damn sure keep a fire under your feet. It has worked in business and the gym for me.

It kinda works in bed too...

I bottle up my emotions and that will manifest as anger or even rage. I don’t think at least in my case to bottle everything in is healthy. You got to channel it out somewhere. When you are under stress and that energy enters your body, it has to be channeled or released some how. I’m not speaking metaphorically either. Stress builds up in the body and effects organ systems and neural pathways. It can’t be kept in the system for long or it overloads. Or body is really nothing more than a very elegantly built power plant. You simple can’t keep it in forever.

[Obs]

I bottle up my emotions and that will manifest as anger or even rage. I don’t think at least in my case to bottle everything in is healthy. You got to channel it out somewhere. When you are under stress and that energy enters your body, it has to be channeled or released some how. I’m not speaking metaphorically either. Stress builds up in the body and effects organ systems and neural pathways. It can’t be kept in the system for long or it overloads. Or body is really nothing more than a very elegantly built power plant. You simple can’t keep it in forever.

Hold it in you get
180/110.
I Don't have high bp. I just got turbo hydraulic boost.

I worry about biz. Need to get him fucked. MS you can take one for the team right?

[MuscleScience]

Hold it in you get
180/110.
I Don't have high bp. I just got turbo hydraulic boost.

I worry about biz. Need to get him fucked. MS you can take one for the team right?

Sure, I’ll pitch in on a plane ticket for him to come visit you...

[Obs]

Sure, I’ll pitch in on a plane ticket for him to come visit you...

I knew you would help.

[Obs]

Great thread MS . Not sure how i could describe parts of my journey or if anyone is intetested but let me think about how i could put it in words. Great topic and one what many shy away but my experience you shouldn't.

I check this thread every damn day waiting for you to be vulnerable like the rest of us. Speak Marcus, no one will cut you down. If they do I will probably be banned for assault or murder etc...

[EDCG19]

I bottle up my emotions and that will manifest as anger or even rage. I don’t think at least in my case to bottle everything in is healthy. You got to channel it out somewhere. When you are under stress and that energy enters your body, it has to be channeled or released some how. I’m not speaking metaphorically either. Stress builds up in the body and effects organ systems and neural pathways. It can’t be kept in the system for long or it overloads. Or body is really nothing more than a very elegantly built power plant. You simple can’t keep it in forever.

What's a good way to get the stress out healthy without drinking or getting high out of your mind because you can't deal with what is going on?

I usually bottle everything up and than one day at works things start unraveling ...

[MuscleScience]

What's a good way to get the stress out healthy without drinking or getting high out of your mind because you can't deal with what is going on?

I usually bottle everything up and than one day at works things start unraveling ...

Three ways work for me. But everyone needs to find what works for them healthy.

1. Good hard sex, with my GF of course that’s always number one in my book.
2. Meditation, it takes time to train your mind but is worth it because to can do it anytime anywhere. It’s not all froo froo like you think. I play basketball games in my head or think about some complex problem. Anything to get the mind to take a break from the emotion center being dominate (which is the primitive brain) and using the cerebral (thinking part) part of the brain.

3. Good hard workout or cardio session. If i can get a good pickup basketball game at the gym that really melts my stress and aggression.

[EDCG19]

Three ways work for me. But everyone needs to find what works for them healthy.

1. Good hard sex, with my GF of course that’s always number one in my book.
2. Meditation, it takes time to train your mind but is worth it because to can do it anytime anywhere. It’s not all froo froo like you think. I play basketball games in my head or think about some complex problem. Anything to get the mind to take a break from the emotion center being dominate (which is the primitive brain) and using the cerebral (thinking part) part of the brain.

3. Good hard workout or cardio session. If i can get a good pickup basketball game at the gym that really melts my stress and aggression.

I like this for sure, seems like its always the same solution to something like this.. Damn, I gotta get back on this train..

Thanks

[MuscleScience]

I will say, I am not sure i could have handled the stress of graduate school without noon pickup b-ball once or twice a week. I looked forward to that and would essentially reset much stress meter to zero. Sometimes they were very rough games, sometimes i would get into arguments, sometimes i would get very fired up. It was all in good fun and we all enjoyed it. It was an outlet for everyone involved.

[MuscleScience]

I like this for sure, seems like its always the same solution to something like this.. Damn, I gotta get back on this train..

Thanks

Lately, going out to the range or taking the dog to the nature trail has also been a nice outlet. Plinking steel is really becoming one of my favorite activities. Its challenging, it takes a lot of focus and you meet cool people doing it too.

[Obs]

What's a good way to get the stress out healthy without drinking or getting high out of your mind because you can't deal with what is going on?

I usually bottle everything up and than one day at works things start unraveling ...

Working out or Adrenaline

[marcus300]

Three ways work for me. But everyone needs to find what works for them healthy.

1. Good hard sex, with my GF of course that’s always number one in my book.
2. Meditation, it takes time to train your mind but is worth it because to can do it anytime anywhere. It’s not all froo froo like you think. I play basketball games in my head or think about some complex problem. Anything to get the mind to take a break from the emotion center being dominate (which is the primitive brain) and using the cerebral (thinking part) part of the brain.

3. Good hard workout or cardio session. If i can get a good pickup basketball game at the gym that really melts my stress and aggression.

I found meditation hard until last year when I did a course on "Mindfulness" and this opened up a whole new outlook. I use to try and force myself not to think but my thoughts would explode stronger and stronger. Trying to think of nothing or concentrate on certain things to release the thinking process is very hard to do but with certain practises you can achieve great peace. The feelings once you can open up this pathway is very euphoric and there are times when you suddenly get an overwhelming feeling of happiness accelerating through your body and mind, its rather a strange feeling.

When I started to go deeper into MBCT techniques the feelings got stronger the more I relaxed the mind and I would travel to beautiful places instead walking in quicksand. The long term changes in mood and levels of happiness and wellbeing are second to known and there's even some scientific data that's shown Mindfulness not only prevent depression but that it can also positively affect the brain patterns. When the feelings of anxiety, stress, depression and irritability start to arise you can quickly dissolve them away far more easily so they don't turn into problems.

Your learnt to treat stress and unhappiness in a whole different way and no matter how black those clouds are in the sky you can catch the negatives thoughts before they tip you into a downward spiral. You can learn how to watch these thoughts or life events and deal with them instead of shutting them away and over time this will bring long term changes in mood and levels of happiness and prevention of depression. Patterns of negative thinking are learnt from past traumatic events and before you know it your mind is exhausted with these feelings which can multiple at an alarming rate. When you start to feel these emotions along side the increase in anxiety you start to feel change and its not the mood what does the damage but how you react to it. The efforts of trying to free yourself from these bad feelings and thoughts can create further negative behaviour and the more your struggle the deeper you get. Self attacking thoughts are very destructive and can be incredibly powerful as they gather momentum and at times impossible to stop. You can learn to see these feelings and thoughts and address them in a whole different manner than your use to, your learnt behaviours can change if you apply the right techniques.

[MuscleScience]

I found meditation hard until last year when I did a course on "Mindfulness" and this opened up a whole new outlook. I use to try and force myself not to think but my thoughts would explode stronger and stronger. Trying to think of nothing or concentrate on certain things to release the thinking process is very hard to do but with certain practises you can achieve great peace. The feelings once you can open up this pathway is very euphoric and there are times when you suddenly get an overwhelming feeling of happiness accelerating through your body and mind, its rather a strange feeling.

When I started to go deeper into MBCT techniques the feelings got stronger the more I relaxed the mind and I would travel to beautiful places instead walking in quicksand. The long term changes in mood and levels of happiness and wellbeing are second to known and there's even some scientific data that's shown Mindfulness not only prevent depression but that it can also positively affect the brain patterns. When the feelings of anxiety, stress, depression and irritability start to arise you can quickly dissolve them away far more easily so they don't turn into problems.

Your learnt to treat stress and unhappiness in a whole different way and no matter how black those clouds are in the sky you can catch the negatives thoughts before they tip you into a downward spiral. You can learn how to watch these thoughts or life events and deal with them instead of shutting them away and over time this will bring long term changes in mood and levels of happiness and prevention of depression. Patterns of negative thinking are learnt from past traumatic events and before you know it your mind is exhausted with these feelings which can multiple at an alarming rate. When you start to feel these emotions along side the increase in anxiety you start to feel change and its not the mood what does the damage but how you react to it. The efforts of trying to free yourself from these bad feelings and thoughts can create further negative behaviour and the more your struggle the deeper you get. Self attacking thoughts are very destructive and can be incredibly powerful as they gather momentum and at times impossible to stop. You can learn to see these feelings and thoughts and address them in a whole different manner than your use to, your learnt behaviours can change if you apply the right techniques.

Very well said big guy!

[marcus300]

Very well said big guy!

It's very interesting and need to do more of it

[GirlyGymRat]

It's very interesting and need to do more of it

Interesting post...I’m shifting my thoughts from diet to lifestyle... I’ve never explored meditations and Ive become more open to it....

[hammerheart]

Being naturally introspective I always been somewhat conscious about my own thought patterns and processes, as a young adult I managed my way out of quite severe depression by embracing positive thinking and confronting the obsessive, recurring and negative intrusions from the inside... it was a long way to recover and in the beginning at any moment of every single day I had to guard myself that any of those dark feelings spoiled the positive outlook I was so slowly building, as that would have me spiral down again. It was hard in the start but things got better week by week.

[hammerheart]

There has been moments of lately when I get literally assaulted by a sense of dread and doom - it feels almost like a panic attack, it doesn't last much and it's rather manageable, it just feels like "no way out" literally.

What if a man in a spark of higher lucidity comes to realize the odds are that strong against him?

[Obs]

There has been moments of lately when I get literally assaulted by a sense of dread and doom - it feels almost like a panic attack, it doesn't last much and it's rather manageable, it just feels like "no way out" literally.

What if a man in a spark of higher lucidity comes to realize the odds are that strong against him?

My battles have been similar and anxiety seems more prominent than depression. Drinking too much can screw me up for a considerable period. Self reflection was my greatest enemy.
Lately when I feel it creeping up I just bury myself in something I didnt want to do. Accomplishments and forward motion, acting from reverse feelings, (doing what I absolutely don't feel at the time) helps tremendously.
I feel like being sequestered and I find a crowd. Don't feel like going out, I walk out the door immediately.

I know you carry a burden biz. I hope you get that weight off.

[Quester]

Biz,
Perhaps these feelings/thought mask something that you are to focussed to attend too? Perhaps they accompany a positive change that threatens to make you a different person?

[Quester]

GGR and others, but GGR is doing something like I am.
Currently, I am undergoing neurofeedback and counselling associated with the neurofeedback. Meditation does much the samething as neurofeedback, they both modulate brain waves. I have a problem with.... .... ... (...denotes the passage of time as I figure out how to say what my problem really is)
I have a problem with myslef and what I have accomplished at this point in my life. Friends are loyal but few. ... ... I am a real nice, generous, considerate loyal person that comes off as an asshole becuase I don't trust others (and the world) enough to change. I think I know what I need to do to be the man I want but I'm just kind of ... staying the same.
Neurofeedback helps me to be more fluid with my environment. I can accept things happening around me and utilize more tools with regard to finding an appropriate emotional response. Cognitively, I do fine but, underlying that is the emotional response. In me, and I expect in others, the emotional response occurs on an instinctive level. The cognitive response is one that one crafts to the needs of the situation. In no way am I saying that I respond with drama or some other bullshit. I'm saying that, the inner me has a profound yet, so subtle as not to be noticed influence on what comes next. The neurofeedback access that area.

[hammerheart]

Biz,
Perhaps these feelings/thought mask something that you are to focussed to attend too? Perhaps they accompany a positive change that threatens to make you a different person?

Those from my younger days are long gone and buried in the past nowadays I'm just overrun but more material circumstances so to speak, yet it's always the same theme - and the same as yours - it's about being a better person than I am and while I only had self-loathing and lassitude to hold me back 10 years ago now the challenges got real, tougher and probably just too many than I can put up with.

[< <Samson> >]

Shit, I thought I "over thought" things - I don't take things nowhere near as serious as I once have.

Not saying, not to be cautious with things - but, don't let yourself bring yourself down.


Fvck - I'm happier than ever, just to see another day. The rest will follow - one way or another.

[guitarzan]

Depression is something I don't think we'll ever understand completely. I think it's something everyone has, some just worse than others. This January, my father in law/friend lost their house to a fire, and a few days later he stuck a .357 in his mouth. He left a letter admitting arson. I think it was his plan to take his life the entire time. We were together everyday, worked together, and we hung out most everyday after work. I never saw it coming.

It was a rough seven months with mother in law living with us! However, I can be thankful, because she inspired me to quit smoking and drinking everyday. I watched her nearly caugh her lungs up everyday, but continue to smoke two packs a day. I've smoked, and/or dipped for 30 years. Every time I tried to quit the cravens were too strong. After watching her, something inside me clicked, and I quit end of may. I haven't had any cravens!

I had started Jan 1rst to get back in shape, but this ordeal screwed that up, I thought. I didn't realize my mother in law was gonna give me more motivation than ever. I now only drink occasionally, I allow myself once a week, and it's usually just a few. Since Jan I've lost little over 50lbs, and maintained muscle. Most of it since June

[hammerheart]

Cool, I quit smoking habitually at 18 (started 13). It happens yearly that I restart for about two weeks then quit (or just have a Toscano).

I never developed any addiction to it for some reason it's easy for me to quit, I don't get any craving of any sort.

[guitarzan]

I had reflux so bad I went to the emergency room last year thinking I was having s heart attack. Turns out it was just my esophagus spasm. I was taking nexium every day, Zantac twice a day and eating tums. Two weeks after I stopped smoking, the reflux went away! I'd stopped dippping a few months before. Smoking is terrible, so glad I was able to quit

[< <Samson> >]

I still smoke cigarettes, but not like anyone I know. . . Last pack I bought, was about a month ago - out of the pack I smoked about a half dozen cigarettes & gave away the rest.

I'll go weeks at a time without even having one



Still kinda interesting to me that I still do here & there.