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    Quote Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS View Post
    Here is a good fucking question: What the hell kind of place do we live in where the first-responders have to wear (or feel the need to wear) body armor, when they arrive on scene?

    Proximal: I just flashed back on this, buddy. I was in high school, early 1980's, and we were driving in the city of Chicago. We had just turned left off of Rush St. onto Division headed for the expressway. Division St. bordered (I will use the past tense because I have heard that it has been dismantled) the notorious Cabrini Green housing projects; a gang infested (Vice Lords / Disciples) crime ridden cesspool... Our car stopped at a traffic light, and as I was sitting in the passenger seat I see this group of guys shooting hoops. Up to them comes sauntering (if you are familiar with the type, you will begin to form a picture) some guy in a yellow shirt. He looks around as everybody comes crowding up to him, pulls up his shirt, and in the front of his pants he had an automatic pistol...

    It was in this same housing project where the newspapers had said that the ambulance services refused to enter without a police escort... WTF.
    My God do you have one hell of a memory. Man, I haven’t thought of Cabrini Green in so long.

    Damn, going down to Chicago Stadium was trippy as well; some seriously poor neighborhoods. Felt like you suddenly slipped into another city all-together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    The full fucking video. Do you keep up with what is going on? Here? The world?
    Do you? On another post you showed me of footage of “bricks” left on Ventura Blvd, when in fact they were a permanent usage of decorative rocks in enclosed cages. Any other “facts” you have that I’ve misunderstood? What?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Do you? On another post you showed me of footage of “bricks” left on Ventura Blvd, when in fact they were a permanent usage of decorative rocks in enclosed cages. Any other “facts” you have that I’ve misunderstood? What?
    Please tell me you haven’t reproduced.
    Little early for the wine don’t you think?

    Nach says hello. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Please tell me you haven’t reproduced.
    Little early for the wine don’t you think?

    Nach says hello. Lol
    Wow, on a scale of 1 to 10 on intelligent responses, holy-shift, that must rank as a 12.

    No GH is the one that drinks whiskey in the morning, I prefer coffee so I can lead a productive life.

    Nach has my phone #, tell him to give me a call himself messenger boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Wow, on a scale of 1 to 10 on intelligent responses, holy-shift, that must rank as a 12.

    No GH is the one that drinks whiskey in the morning, I prefer coffee so I can lead a productive life.

    Nach has my phone #, tell him to give me a call himself messenger boy.
    Admitting you have a drinking problem is the first step to recovery.

    He got a new phone. Was asking how you were holding up. I told him about the same as last time y’all talked. Ffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Admitting you have a drinking problem is the first step to recovery.

    He got a new phone. Was asking how you were holding up. I told him about the same as last time y’all talked. Ffs
    I’ve got no interest in recovery.

    Not quite the same. Wealthier, about 15 pounds of more muscle & likely, comfortably retired. But in terms of having little respect for bull-shit, always the same, ffs.

    You seem to have difficulty with getting your information complete, is this part of the conspiracy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Admitting you have a drinking problem is the first step to recovery.

    He got a new phone. Was asking how you were holding up. I told him about the same as last time y’all talked. Ffs
    But, in respect to Nach, he was a great guy & we parted ways on shitty terms. I figured he had a new phone, I tried texting him a couple of times asking how he was (and his Dad, who I know, he cared for deeply).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Let me ask what you guys think, im not trying to be an asshole, racist , out of line here. Just a general question

    Do you feel if a cop, with spaghetti arms and legs is kneeling on your neck...do you feel you would die? On the backside of your kneck...not the front? Would it kill you?

    With that being asked the official autopsy shown no signs of asphyxiation where as the private autopsy performed determined thats the cause of death. Just wanted to hear some opinions on that
    Of course the private autopsy says what the family wants it to say, the private pathologist is a witness for the family in their multimillion dollar lawsuit against the city.

    The hired pathologist always opines that it was the cops fault. That’s why families keep hiring them. They have to keep up their reputation as being able to pull something out of their ass to point to the man being wrongfully killed.

    The ME there is appointed by a board, not elected. He doesn’t care about satisfying an angry mob calling for blood. He is not running for re-election like the mayor and the district attorney. He can be fair and professional.

    Hopefully this rush to produce a travesty of justice by indicting and charging a whole crew will backfire.

    Remember the Baltimore riots, also complete with looting and arson. They rushed to arrest six cops to satisfy the bloodthirsty mob burning the city.

    A year later, every prosecution failed. Four cops not guilty. The DA saw the jig was up, so to avoid getting further humiliated, she dropped the charges on the remaining two.

    Another politically motivated prosecution.


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    Quote Originally Posted by C27H40O3 View Post
    Didnt anyone read the autopsy report? Read it before claiming the guy was murdered.

    https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/henn...3700_Floyd.pdf


    There were no injuries of the neck or throat area. There were several heart issues,

    The coronary arteries are present in a normal distribution, with a right dominant pattern. Cross sections of the vessels show
    multifocal atherosclerosis, with 75% proximal and 75% mid narrowing of the left anterior descending coronary artery; 75%
    proximal narrowing of the 1st diagonal branch of the left anterior descending coronary artery
    ; 25% proximal narrowing of
    the circumflex coronary artery; and 90% proximal narrowing of the right coronary artery.
    Cross sections of coronary arteries, though not all ideally oriented, confirm the gross impression of atherosclerotic narrowing


    No injuries in the neck area:

    An incision from the back of the head to the lower back, extending onto both buttocks, is dissected subcutaneously to the
    lateral aspects of the neck, the shoulders, and flanks. No areas of subcutaneous hemorrhage, soft tissue contusion, or
    other occult injury are found in the posterior neck, right and left lateral neck,
    shoulders, back, flanks, or buttocks.

    No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries

    Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:
    1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL
    2. Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL
    3. 4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL
    4. Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL
    5. 11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL;
    Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL



    This guy had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

    The cop didnt kill him, his heart gave out, it was 90% clogged in some areas. And he was recovering from COVID.
    Can you site the source where you obtained this info please sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C27H40O3 View Post
    Of course the private autopsy says what the family wants it to say, the private pathologist is a witness for the family in their multimillion dollar lawsuit against the city.

    The hired pathologist always opines that it was the cops fault. That’s why families keep hiring them. They have to keep up their reputation as being able to pull something out of their ass to point to the man being wrongfully killed.

    The ME there is appointed by a board, not elected. He doesn’t care about satisfying an angry mob calling for blood. He is not running for re-election like the mayor and the district attorney. He can be fair and professional.

    Hopefully this rush to produce a travesty of justice by indicting and charging a whole crew will backfire.

    Remember the Baltimore riots, also complete with looting and arson. They rushed to arrest six cops to satisfy the bloodthirsty mob burning the city.

    A year later, every prosecution failed. Four cops not guilty. The DA saw the jig was up, so to avoid getting further humiliated, she dropped the charges on the remaining two.

    Another politically motivated prosecution.


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    It’s not too far fetched to think the ME gave a more “favorable” report to support the police, essentially trying to take care of their own.

    Yeah the guy had a shit-load of coronary artery blockage and that could have contributed if he had heart failure (which they could see in an autopsy). There was no mention of heart cell death, which would leave been seen by a distinctive patch of blackened heart cells.

    No injuries to the lateral neck seems really unlikely to me after having someone kneel on it for 8 minutes. Place 150 + pounds on your arm over the space of a few square inches for 8 minutes and tell me you wouldn’t get a bruise or damage any tissue?
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    All i know is, or I THINK i know is that a black man died in police custody. Protestors hit the streets, protests turn extremely violent. Cities burned, innocent people were beaten even killed and their businesses were were destroyed.

    As of today, in my surrounding areas there is reports of threats coming in to protest and remove confederate monuments. Will they turn violent? I dont know? But I guarantee you i will defend my property if it come to that and that is originally what my post is about.This domestic terrorism. We cant let that happen guys. REAL Americans like us cant let that happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    All i know is, or I THINK i know is that a black man died in police custody. Protestors hit the streets, protests turn extremely violent. Cities burned, innocent people were beaten even killed and their businesses were were destroyed.

    As of today, in my surrounding areas there is reports of threats coming in to protest and remove confederate monuments. Will they turn violent? I dont know? But I guarantee you i will defend my property if it come to that and that is originally what my post is about.This domestic terrorism. We cant let that happen guys. REAL Americans like us cant let that happen.
    That’s why you need to become a 3 Percenter. That’s all it took in the American Revolution. It’s all it will take today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    That’s why you need to become a 3 Percenter. That’s all it took in the American Revolution. It’s all it will take today.
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    glad to see guys read history and understand it and keep it close to their hearts .. makes me have hope
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    The media is a fucking huge problem. Huge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    That’s why you need to become a 3 Percenter. That’s all it took in the American Revolution. It’s all it will take today.
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    Just read Wiki on the 3 Percenters.
    Pretty pointed write up.
    Not saying its the truth or not but interesting none-the-less.

    Feel free to point me to another write-up if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    That’s why you need to become a 3 Percenter. That’s all it took in the American Revolution. It’s all it will take today.
    more guys need to be like cape and have read and understand some of our history..
    have some books sitting around their house like I do like this..
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    just an opinion.. don't matter if your left or right, knowing some history is always a good thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Just read Wiki on the 3 Percenters.
    Pretty pointed write up.
    Not saying its the truth or not but interesting none-the-less.

    Feel free to point me to another write-up if you want.
    https://www.thethreepercenters.org/about-us

    Any organization can have a zealot that you can’t judge the Entire organization by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Thank you.

    Actually just read that.
    (Or parts that I can access.)

    Turns out my Patriots drafted a punter with a 3% tattoo.
    (not saying he is or ins't a member, could just be a kid with a cool tat.)

    And thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Thank you.

    Actually just read that.
    (Or parts that I can access.)

    Turns out my Patriots drafted a punter with a 3% tattoo.
    (not saying he is or ins't a member, could just be a kid with a cool tat.)

    And thanks again.
    I remember. He took heat over it because the media called it anti-government. It’s pro-republic. The media is one sided and bias.
    I think he got it covered with another tattoo.
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    Don’t hate on the Comrades < lol

    It’s between Ru & Ch < always has been. . . Well, sorta. About 30+ years back Ru ran some serious shit, Ch always wanted to follow in their footsteps.

    I remember being back in Ru in the 80’s, I was little - but, I remember it real well. I remember watching the Challenger mission explode in mid air - how do u think that was looked at over there? But, as far the big picture - the US has always been looked up 2 & still is. So far, so good - I don’t even blame the orange clown for anything anymore - I don’t think there’s anything he can do at this point - and, he def won’t even try


    Yeah, we can’t get along on a large political scale. . . But, I this point - I wants things to go back to normal(about how it was 5 years back). Never thought I’d have that as a real thought - shit’s annoying. . . I’m still working out at home & shit, I’m in better shape than before all of this started.

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    Uggggh,

    Fuck - just so bad from every aspect

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Uggggh,

    Fuck - just so bad from every aspect
    I think he’s in the same cell Epstein had with no cameras and sleepy guards. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Can you site the source where you obtained this info please sir?
    read the post, brother. the link is listed on the second line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    I remember. He took heat over it because the media called it anti-government. It’s pro-republic. The media is one sided and bias.
    I think he got it covered with another tattoo.
    Any group formed that is not strictly far left wing liberals are labeled a hate group and of course racist in today’s times. But yet ANTIFA is never mentioned. Saying we are antigovernment and “gun toting” . Im not anti government, im for small government. Big government is socialism and its citizens depend on government to survive. Not us
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    Quote Originally Posted by C27H40O3 View Post
    read the post, brother. the link is listed on the second line.
    Totally missed it man. Lol sorry . I was hung up on the lower end of the post when i seen “methamphetamine” im just wondering if some other chemicals or medications showed up as methamphetimine . I read also where he had or previously had tested pos for covid
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    more guys need to be like cape and have read and understand some of our history..
    have some books sitting around their house like I do like this..
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    just an opinion.. don't matter if your left or right, knowing some history is always a good thing
    GH,

    Check out Howard Zinn, A Peoples History of America

    Another good one, by Pres. Richard Nixon, No More Vietnams
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Any group formed that is not strictly far left wing liberals are labeled a hate group and of course racist in today’s times. But yet ANTIFA is never mentioned. Saying we are antigovernment and “gun toting” . Im not anti government, im for small government. Big government is socialism and its citizens depend on government to survive. Not us
    Agreed. Drew Breeze punked out and said he’s sorry for saying you should respect the flag. I mean damn. Just damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Agreed. Drew Breeze punked out and said he’s sorry for saying you should respect the flag. I mean damn. Just damn.
    Fuck him, just another pawn controlled by the domestic terrorists. If you cant respect the flag then i cant respect you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
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    LOL .. dude you have the same mind as me.
    this is me right now on the patio . shaved side my head with a knife blade . of course a cut was bound to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    It’s not too far fetched to think the ME gave a more “favorable” report to support the police, essentially trying to take care of their own.
    No way. They dont help cops. They routinely find cops caused deaths of prisoners. He is appointed, not worrying about being reelected. The private guy the family hired, has a bad rep here in NYC. He has a vested interest in getting hired by other families in the future. he always opines that the city ME covers shit up.


    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Yeah the guy had a shit-load of coronary artery blockage and that could have contributed if he had heart failure (which they could see in an autopsy). There was no mention of heart cell death, which would leave been seen by a distinctive patch of blackened heart cells.

    No injuries to the lateral neck seems really unlikely to me after having someone kneel on it for 8 minutes. Place 150 + pounds on your arm over the space of a few square inches for 8 minutes and tell me you wouldn’t get a bruise or damage any tissue?
    It goes to show you that you cant always believe what you think you see in some video. think about it, the cop has two knees. there is no way to tell if he had any pressure at all on Floyd's neck with that one knee that was visible. he could have had all the pressure on the other leg, and was just using his left leg to contain the prisoner, since the autopsy clearly shows that there was no damage to the neck. you yourself imply that it is not possible if there was any formidable weight placed on that knee. so there was likely no weight put on the neck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XnavyHMCS View Post
    GH,

    Check out Howard Zinn, A Peoples History of America

    Another good one, by Pres. Richard Nixon, No More Vietnams
    that piece was great. i got the audiobook a few years ago. its on youtube. it was enlightening.

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    I know your a bad mother fucker working out in the snow when the gyms are closed down after shaving the sides of your head.
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    Go to 15:30 mark. This guy has balls and can throw hands. He’s not intimidated No hesitation. No fear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Totally missed it man. Lol sorry . I was hung up on the lower end of the post when i seen “methamphetamine” im just wondering if some other chemicals or medications showed up as methamphetimine . I read also where he had or previously had tested pos for covid
    yeah, between the recovering covid, the drugs, the weak heart, and the weakness from sickle cell in his blood, you can see death that is not the cops' fault.

    remember that in folks with sickle cell, there is a risk of collapse and death during a strenous workout of the body, such as resisting arrest, or a delirium reaction from drugs.

    https://www.sportsmedtoday.com/ecast...ait-va-109.htm

    EXERCISE COLLAPSE ASSOCIATED WITH SICKLE CELL TRAIT

    Though Sickle Cell Trait rarely impacts athletic performance, under certain circumstances, athletes can suffer negative effects. These include muscle weakness, pain, and collapse. If collapse occurs, it is referred to as Exercise Collapse Associated with Sickle Cell Trait (ECAST). It is important to consider ECAST as a cause of collapse in athletes because the relative risk of death is up to 40 times higher in athletes with SCT than those without.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C27H40O3 View Post
    No way. They dont help cops. They routinely find cops caused deaths of prisoners. He is appointed, not worrying about being reelected. The private guy the family hired, has a bad rep here in NYC. He has a vested interest in getting hired by other families in the future. he always opines that the city ME covers shit up.




    It goes to show you that you cant always believe what you think you see in some video. think about it, the cop has two knees. there is no way to tell if he had any pressure at all on Floyd's neck with that one knee that was visible. he could have had all the pressure on the other leg, and was just using his left leg to contain the prisoner, since the autopsy clearly shows that there was no damage to the neck. you yourself imply that it is not possible if there was any formidable weight placed on that knee. so there was likely no weight put on the neck.
    Oh, I see, you are sure one group of examiners is clean/honest & the others not.

    If you understood biomechanics and the way the body moves or doesn’t, if you understand posture and it’s effects on weight bearing, you would understand you are incorrect.

    It’s a very easy read for me, the cop had a lot of weight on his neck.

    Regarding the ME report, it is extremely inconclusive for such a violent death. The fact that Covid & sickle cell are given any merit is goofy. Granted, they need mention, but contributors? Possibly the drugs could have played some role, but the facts are as plain as the light of day - asphyxiation due to one cop kneeling on his neck, the other on his chest.

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    LOL .. dude you have the same mind as me.
    this is me right now on the patio . shaved side my head with a knife blade . of course a cut was bound to happen.
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    HAH ! Fuckin awesome bro
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    Guys....

    Not saying pro cop or not pro cop...
    Not saying black or white or green...

    It is very easy to choke someone out.
    We see it all the time in MMA.

    I took BJJ for all of maybe 5 months and saw how little pressure is needed to be applied to choke someone out.
    Their neck doesn't bruise. They suffer no permanent damage as long as you release.

    Hell, as teenager we used to lean our backs against a wall and have some put their hands around your neck.
    Then you lift your feet and viola.... you pass out. Very easy, very fast.

    So I honestly believe that by kneeling on the right part on someone's neck for almost 9 minutes that yes, that person could die.
    For fuck's sake, the man was dead about 6 and half minutes in.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokehold

    A chokehold, neck restraint, stranglehold or, in Judo, shime-waza (Japanese: 絞技, lit. 'constriction technique')[1] is a general term for a grappling hold that critically reduces or prevents either air (choking)[2] or blood (strangling) from passing through the neck of an opponent. The restriction may be of one or both and depends on the hold used and the reaction of the victim.

    The lack of blood or air often leads to unconsciousness or even death if the hold is maintained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Guys....

    Not saying pro cop or not pro cop...
    Not saying black or white or green...

    It is very easy to choke someone out.
    We see it all the time in MMA.

    I took BJJ for all of maybe months and saw how little pressure needed to be applied to choke someone out.

    So I honestly believe that by kneeling on the right part on someone's neck for almost 9 minutes that yes, that person could die.
    For fuck's sake, the man was dead about 6 and half minutes in.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokehold

    A chokehold, neck restraint, stranglehold or, in Judo, shime-waza (Japanese: 絞技, lit. 'constriction technique')[1] is a general term for a grappling hold that critically reduces or prevents either air (choking)[2] or blood (strangling) from passing through the neck of an opponent. The restriction may be of one or both and depends on the hold used and the reaction of the victim.

    The lack of blood or air often leads to unconsciousness or even death if the hold is maintained.
    Agree completely. And honestly this is not about pro or against police imo, as it’s just too damn cut and dry.

    Now you look at Eric Garner (the first I can’t breath “victim”), that was highly debatable and even though he died, I thought the police were in the right.

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