vaccination

[SampsonandDelilah]

That’s the thing with drugs. If you don’t like them it’s no fun and if you like them too much it’s a problem.

As far as THC: I think we will see more value in legitimate medical uses in the future. Icy hot and CBD don’t help me much but full spectrum THC/CBD body rubs work very well for me.

If one was already making edibles Imagine making a salve would be a similar process. Here rec users can buy flower and edibles but it takes a medical card just to buy a salve lol.

That’s ridiculous! Seriously? That makes zero fucking sense to me?

Funny you mention salves, I have one a friend just made for me and it’s amazing. It’s like Frank’s red hot…”I put that shit on everything”.

Huge for guys and gals that lift


Couldn’t agree with you more

[Honkey_Kong]

That’s the thing with drugs. If you don’t like them it’s no fun and if you like them too much it’s a problem.

As far as THC: I think we will see more value in legitimate medical uses in the future. Icy hot and CBD don’t help me much but full spectrum THC/CBD body rubs work very well for me.

If one was already making edibles Imagine making a salve would be a similar process. Here rec users can buy flower and edibles but it takes a medical card just to buy a salve lol.

Those Icy-Hot type lotions don't do shit for me either. I get a lot of relief by using my complex's Jacuzzi. I have to will myself to get out of it sometimes though. You just feel relaxed and ready for a nap.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Found this to be relevant

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cannabi...ot-11630674984

[Cuz]

I wont be getting it, at least until some more time passes. I would be more inclined to take ivermectin than to take the vaccine. If i was to take it, phizer would be my choice but again i dont plan on it anytime soon

[wango]

That’s the thing with drugs. If you don’t like them it’s no fun and if you like them too much it’s a problem.

As far as THC: I think we will see more value in legitimate medical uses in the future. Icy hot and CBD don’t help me much but full spectrum THC/CBD body rubs work very well for me.

If one was already making edibles Imagine making a salve would be a similar process. Here rec users can buy flower and edibles but it takes a medical card just to buy a salve lol.

By salve, do you mean a THC cream that you can apply topically for pain? That stuff rocks! My wife loves it and the couple of times I’ve used it, it worked really well.

There are a few cooking shows that bring in quality chefs and infuse different recipes with pot. They measure stuff to the THC levels pretty precisely for every dish. Binge watched those really quickly as they kicked ass.

[kelkel]

love seeing everyone tell me about vaccine stuff, had alot of old dogs come out.

Who you calling "Old Dogs"?

But to your question. I have not had the shot yet. I'm not an anti-vaccer in the least. Just haven't felt the need. That said, my nephew is getting married in a few months and to attend the wedding you have to be vaccinated plus show it on some government tracking app. WTF. That part pisses me off. Anyway, I'll probably be arranging a Moderna shot soon, especially as I recently read it creates twice as many antibodies as the Phizer shot.

[Mooseman33]

have been waiting on you to chime in.

thanks for response buddy.

[almostgone]

Who you calling "Old Dogs"?

But to your question. I have not had the shot yet. I'm not an anti-vaccer in the least. Just haven't felt the need. That said, my nephew is getting married in a few months and to attend the wedding you have to be vaccinated plus show it on some government tracking app. WTF. That part pisses me off. Anyway, I'll probably be arranging a Moderna shot soon, especially as I recently read it creates twice as many antibodies as the Phizer shot.

Dang, that's screwed up.

The vaccination card should be sufficient. I'm sure once you're vaccinated and have a card it's in a government database, but the government tracking app stipulation is just..... irritating.

[spywizard]

ivermectin 16mg 5 days on ... .. wife came down hard with it.. put her on hydroxiquine with zpack... then ivermectin.. she's doing great.. i was down 2 days..

antibody now present in testing..

[spywizard]

want to see a vax card?? heck i've got a printer.. anything you need..

[GirlyGymRat]

I fly for personal and J O B. I flew into Covid then flew to mom. Virus traveled by plane.

Moderna in April / May. Booster in September bc my J O B bubble grew exponentially for 10 weeks.


I understand people are walking away from
J O B on Principle of personal freedom. My J O B now mandating vaccinations. Boss pinged me bc didn’t send vaccination proof . A silent protest of sorts. Not anti Vax. Not onboard with Govt overreach.

Medical decisions best kept between person and doctor.

Science is clear. Covid does discriminates.

Old
Compromised Immunity
Obesity

So do what you have to do!

[Mooseman33]

i did the first shot but did not do the second. My wife did both.

[bethdoth]

I had covid Sept 2020 and got tested for the antibodies in May 2021 (had antibodies) then my employer forced me to make the decision ... shot or no job after 20 years. I ended up getting the Phizer jab twice. Like most I am going to use the words no to little side effects ... but will add "YET"! They got the short term on these drugs WRONG. They said it would prevent us from getting the vid, some crazy number like 98% effective. Well they were wrong. So who knows if the long term effect are wrong as well. I guess we might know in the future if they don't cover it up. When women can't get pregnant because the spike protein traveled (didn't stay at the injection site) and collected in the ovaries, increase in heart disease, lung cancer etc etc... How many commercials have you seen " did you or a loved one take drug XYZ and now have cancer? Contact the Zigman and Fraud lawfirm at" Well guess what you won't see that for these jabs, the government has made sure to protect them from any liability. Makes ya wonder?????
EDIT: Mooseman If you get the second jab at about the 24 hour mark take 1000mg Ibuprofen and 500 Acetaminophen. I started to get body pain, headache, fatigue and chills at the 26 hour mark. Took that and was good the next day.

[wango]

Science is clear. Covid does discriminates.

Old
Compromised Immunity
Obesity

So do what you have to do!

I wish it would have discriminated better, I lost a good co-worker/friend in his 40’s (prior to vaccinations being available). And just recently an ex-student in thier late teens (family unvaccinated). Both to Covid. My wife lost a couple of younger co-workers (she was in the medical profession and they worked in the hospital).

My unofficial prediction is that this is the new version of the flu. Like the flu if you want to improve your odds, you vaccinate every year and the vaccination changes every year because just like the flu, this mutates. Do to the severity (and of course the word severity is debatable), but especially because of how damn well this mutates, it’s likely we’ll be looking at 2 different vaccinations per year (similar to what we are doing with the booster). I can’t see how this will disappear off the face of the planet.

Could they have come up with a better name than Omicron? It sounds like a distant planet that a space alien comes from.

[Test Monsterone]

The only reason we still have this virus around and mutating is because we allowed it to by not getting vaccinated. We eradicated many other diseases back in the days when there weren’t so many conspiracies and people were really dying left and right. Think tuberculosis. The vaccine does not prevent you from getting it, but it greatly diminishes its ability to spread as the vaccine renders it less infectious. Think about having mild symptoms for a few days until it is eradicated from your body vs having moderate to severe symptoms for 2 weeks, during which you can spread it much more easily because it can replicate in your body and spread with every cough, sneeze, or breath. To put it in simple terms, if there were two people in a room, and they both were vaccinated, there is no possibility for a new variant to spontaneously appear. People were worried about the long term effects of the vaccine, but now we’re in a perpetual cycle new of variants/breakouts. The idea that the vaccine may have secondary effects such as clotting factors is a reality, unfortunately, but if this is the case, then the virus itself will have way more side effects or long term effects. Ie, if the vaccine is likely to kill you, then the virus definitely will. My gfs 97 year old grandma got the vaccines and she’s still kicking.

[redz]

I would kill before allowing that crap in my body. Have fun with your boosters and additional shots for the omnicrap variant.

[redz]

The only reason we still have this virus around and mutating is because we allowed it to by not getting vaccinated. We eradicated many other diseases back in the days when there weren’t so many conspiracies and people were really dying left and right. Think tuberculosis. The vaccine does not prevent you from getting it, but it greatly diminishes its ability to spread as the vaccine renders it less infectious. Think about having mild symptoms for a few days until it is eradicated from your body vs having moderate to severe symptoms for 2 weeks, during which you can spread it much more easily because it can replicate in your body and spread with every cough, sneeze, or breath. To put it in simple terms, if there were two people in a room, and they both were vaccinated, there is no possibility for a new variant to spontaneously appear. People were worried about the long term effects of the vaccine, but now we’re in a perpetual cycle new of variants/breakouts. The idea that the vaccine may have secondary effects such as clotting factors is a reality, unfortunately, but if this is the case, then the virus itself will have way more side effects or long term effects. Ie, if the vaccine is likely to kill you, then the virus definitely will. My gfs 97 year old grandma got the vaccines and she’s still kicking.

Problem is this not a vaccine in the sense of traditional vaccines. It does not prevent you from getting it or spreading it. I am healthy and have nothing to do with anyone getting covid period. My sister is fucked from 1 Pfizer shot and she was perfectly healthy. 6 months later she still has heart problems from the myocarditis and blood clots.

[Test Monsterone]

Problem is this not a vaccine in the sense of traditional vaccines. It does not prevent you from getting it or spreading it. I am healthy and have nothing to do with anyone getting covid period. My sister is fucked from 1 Pfizer shot and she was perfectly healthy. 6 months later she still has heart problems from the myocarditis and blood clots.

I get it and respect your decision. I hope your sister gets better… there’s no telling what this vaccine or virus is doing to us long-term. I just don’t see how COVID will be eradicated at this point, and the vaccine was the only way back when there weren’t so many variants. Like Wango said, it’s probably going to be like a new flu and stay in circulation forever. Maybe this is nature’s way of keeping our population in check. I think if you don’t get the vaccine, it’s only a matter of time until you get COVID and then hopefully you won’t have any severe symptoms or long-term effects. One lady at my company was joking last year how she just wanted to get COVID and get it over with so she can have the antibodies. Well, she got COVID and she now has heart problems and her doctor told her she’ll never be able to run again. She was a marathon runner before this. It can happen from the vaccine and the virus is all I’m saying…

[Euroholic]

Fuck the vaccine!!!!!

Its just 2 weeks to slow the spread.

Its just a lockdown.

Its just an extended lockdown.

Its just a mask.

Its just a vaccine.

Its just a second shot.

Its just a quarantine.

Its just a booster shot.


Fuck your progression. We see what fauci and klaus schwab are doing. Fuck the great reset.

[Euroholic]

The vaccine kills your natural immunity. When I was a lad in the early 1990s we had chicken pox parties. I was the first to get it at 5 years old so mum brought all the little kids from the neighbourhood over, made a party out of it for the adults and got me to hug and kiss the kids and every kid got chicken pox, got itchy for 2 weeks then built up a lifelong immunity to it. Now they want to jam a vaccine into the kids to weaken their immunity and line the pockets of big pharma.


Allergies were not a thing when I was a lad, now they are so much more common in kids today because of vaccines, micro-plastics, atrazine, preservatives, fluoride and other pesticides.

[DinAZ]

I get it and respect your decision. I hope your sister gets better… there’s no telling what this vaccine or virus is doing to us long-term. I just don’t see how COVID will be eradicated at this point, and the vaccine was the only way back when there weren’t so many variants. Like Wango said, it’s probably going to be like a new flu and stay in circulation forever. Maybe this is nature’s way of keeping our population in check. I think if you don’t get the vaccine, it’s only a matter of time until you get COVID and then hopefully you won’t have any severe symptoms or long-term effects. One lady at my company was joking last year how she just wanted to get COVID and get it over with so she can have the antibodies. Well, she got COVID and she now has heart problems and her doctor told her she’ll never be able to run again. She was a marathon runner before this. It can happen from the vaccine and the virus is all I’m saying…

I think you are right about the new normal and this being like the new flu. On the news they were talking about how an Omicron specific booster might be created, and necessary for people who want to stay up on vaccinations. So if things go that route, it sounds like there is a good chance it will become like a flu shot where it is updated annually and people get one every year (who want one).

I respect people’s personal decision to get or not get the vaccine, but to me it should be a health decision. I find it silly that people who are vaccinated against mumps, measles, and rubella think this vaccine is about government control but all the old vaccines we got as children are not. I prefer to keep this a personal and societal health issue rather than a political one. I think the political divisiveness about the vaccine is intentional because it gets people standing behind their party beliefs rather than thinking on their own. I don’t think anyone should blindly get vaccinated or not get vaxxed because of something some politician says or something we saw once on the news.

The news also has an agenda for sensationalism. We have to remember, the news is a product. They will have one story saying how more people need to get vaxxed and another day a story about all the scary side effects happening to people. This is why I think it is important we do our own research independent from news and politicians, and do what is best for us. We see a lot of people preaching and pressuring others to get the vaccine or not get the vaccine and it is divisive and IMO serves political needs more than our own. societal needs.

Do what you think is best, and hopefully we all can stay safe. I’d like to see people educating each other on risks/benefits rather than seeing both sides try spread misinformation, or try to pressure people into taking their side.

[Euroholic]

Just need to hang on a bit longer until 2024 and Trumpy will save the day. The globalists are doubling down in their attempt to crash the west. See pedo Biden has started to use Americas strategic oil reserves because the Saudis refuse to pump more oil?

Things are really heating up.

[spywizard]

let me help, have you ever known the gov to lie to you ?? have you lived long enough to have them inject into your child a "vaccine" then find out 25 years later it was not the vaccine that had been approved ?? they don't teach these things in school ?? 1st hand knowledge.. and why did pfizer pay 1.2 billion in fines due to corruption ?? i don't get people willingly being "injected" with a chemical that does not work, protecting themself or others around them ... if thats what you are looking for.. do you have the TB vaccine ?? yellow fever?? anthrax ?? get what i'm saying ??

[Test Monsterone]

I can’t believe we are still treating this as a conspiracy theory. What reason does a government need to control us when they already do? What about the entire rest of the world? Are their governments also part of the same scheme? How come countries with the least vaccinations have the most deaths from COVID? How come the vast majority of intensive care hospitalizations due to COVID are from those that did not get the vaccine? You guys got to start using that thing on top of your shoulders, this shit is getting silly.

[Euroholic]

I can’t believe we are still treating this as a conspiracy theory. What reason does a government need to control us when they already do? What about the entire rest of the world? Are their governments also part of the same scheme? How come countries with the least vaccinations have the most deaths from COVID? How come the vast majority of intensive care hospitalizations due to COVID are from those that did not get the vaccine? You guys got to start using that thing on top of your shoulders, this shit is getting silly.

The term “conspiracy theory” was invented by the CIA in the late 1960s because people were questioning the JFK shooting. It is used by the establishment as a way of trying to discredit people that do not support the official narrative.

Covid is the tool that will be used to implement the great reset as detailed by Klaus schwab of the world economic forum and the davos group. It is a mild virus that kills less than 1% of people but if people submit to this tyrannical overreach of world governments then they will submit to anything.

Covid is not ebola. It has such a low death rate(percentage wise) that it is barely of any concern. If it had a high death rate like ebola people would be lining up to get a vaccine. However because it is so mild people want their bodily autonomy and the government to step off.

Remember what happened in 1775 when the British came for the guns at Lexington and Concord? The people stood up against the tyrannical overreach.

[DinAZ]

The term “conspiracy theory” was invented by the CIA in the late 1960s because people were questioning the JFK shooting. It is used by the establishment as a way of trying to discredit people that do not support the official narrative.

Covid is the tool that will be used to implement the great reset as detailed by Klaus schwab of the world economic forum and the davos group. It is a mild virus that kills less than 1% of people but if people submit to this tyrannical overreach of world governments then they will submit to anything.

Covid is not ebola. It has such a low death rate(percentage wise) that it is barely of any concern. If it had a high death rate like ebola people would be lining up to get a vaccine. However because it is so mild people want their bodily autonomy and the government to step off.

Remember what happened in 1775 when the British came for the guns at Lexington and Concord? The people stood up against the tyrannical overreach.

“People want” or you want? Many people agree with you, but many don’t. Phrasing it as if all the people agree with you is disingenuous and is propagandizing the issue just as much as the side you are against.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

Main reason why I wasn't afraid of getting the vaccine:

The human body is about 40 trillion cells. But those 40 trillion cells are the human cells. There's more than 40 trillion cells that don't belong to us... bacteria, fungi and so forth.

We're already very much saturated with bugs. Our immune system works 24 hours a day keeping us right. So what's one little injection of a half-deactivated-virus gonna do?

I was always a fan of vaccines. About 15 years ago I went to my local sex health clinic and told them I was gay just so I could get all the vaccines for free. (You've to pay if you're straight). Also I had the vaccines for going to Asia. When I was kid they gave me MMR, BCG and also a meningitis vaccine.

Come to think of it, I should get all my vaccines renewed. I haven't had a hep shot in about 10 years. Might ask for rabies while I'm at it.

[tarmyg]

This thread is the some of the dumbest shit I’ve seen on here in a long time. No need to make up reasons to not take the vaccine. Take it or don’t. Man the fuck up about it and don’t use excuses.

[Euroholic]

Stockholm syndrome is legit a thing, and so many people are suffering from it. We are in a spiritual battle against the satanic pedophile new world order and we will never succumb to their tyranny.

Funny how all this new covid variant is happening at the same time as Giselle Maxwell trial so the media can bury the story. She has all the dirt on Hillary and the rest of pedophile globalists.


The mask is a visual symbol of compliance to the new world order and their tyrannical hatred of liberty. If you take the vaccine then you will take the mark when it comes. All this is biblical and is a precursor to the coming tribulation.

[DinAZ]

Stockholm syndrome is legit a thing, and so many people are suffering from it. We are in a spiritual battle against the satanic pedophile new world order and we will never succumb to their tyranny.

Funny how all this new covid variant is happening at the same time as Giselle Maxwell trial so the media can bury the story. She has all the dirt on Hillary and the rest of pedophile globalists.


The mask is a visual symbol of compliance to the new world order and their tyrannical hatred of liberty. If you take the vaccine then you will take the mark when it comes. All this is biblical and is a precursor to the coming tribulation.

This kind of post is prone to inciting political arguments which most of us have agreed, we don’t want here. I think it is best if we keep things about our own choices related to the vaccine rather than spreading propaganda for either side. There are plenty of websites and sub Reddits to talk about that kind of stuff if you want to do so.

[wango]

This kind of post is prone to inciting political arguments which most of us have agreed, we don’t want here. I think it is best if we keep things about our own choices related to the vaccine rather than spreading propaganda for either side. There are plenty of websites and sub Reddits to talk about that kind of stuff if you want to do so.

I just think maybe he’s training & dieting too hard. Sometimes I get grumpy when I get too calorie depleted. I think he might benefit from a decent cheat meal . . . .

[Euroholic]

This kind of post is prone to inciting political arguments which most of us have agreed, we don’t want here. I think it is best if we keep things about our own choices related to the vaccine rather than spreading propaganda for either side. There are plenty of websites and sub Reddits to talk about that kind of stuff if you want to do so.

Who has agreed they don't want it here? All the time I have been here any conversation goes.

[Mooseman33]

no political fighting in threads that are not setup for it. This was question I had.
please dont fuck it up with political shit.

that said, good to see you around Euro.

[wango]

I had Pfizer booster a week ago. Didn't feel well for 3 days: fever, chills, very sore arm.

Moderna booster for the wife & I. For both of us the body and headaches hit at about 12 hours afterwards, then lasted for about 18 hours. Mild for each of us. Vaccinations required at the last two restaurants I’ve gone to & gym (Los Angeles).

[DinAZ]

Who has agreed they don't want it here? All the time I have been here any conversation goes.

Moose asked us not to and many others have said they don’t want more political arguing like it was during election time.

You can talk about whatever you want I’m not trying to censor you, I support your freedom of speech to say whatever you want. im also trying respect the wishes of the person who made the thread. I’m not trying to tell you what you can and cannot say, I shouldn’t have told you that you have to post it on a different forum but it might be best to make your own thread if it’s about politics. You can make a thread to talk about politics, the clintons, and whatever else your heart desires!

[DinAZ]

Moderna booster for the wife & I. For both of us the body and headaches hit at about 12 hours afterwards, then lasted for about 18 hours. Mild for each of us. Vaccinations required at the last two restaurants I’ve gone to & gym (Los Angeles).

I knew someone that went to Europe recently and proof of vax was required to go into most buildings, including restaurants. I heard on radio Los Angeles is doing that but haven’t talked to anyone 1st hand. Do they just check your vaccine card? I’ve heard of people buying fake vaccine cards. Id think it would be really easy to fake them since they are just a signed piece of paper with stickers on them. I’m glad to hear the booster wasn’t too bad for ya, I haven’t gotten mine yet. Work is busy so I don’t want to risk having a bad reaction and missing days so I will wait a couple weeks and think about it when I’m off work for holidays.

I heard the FDA narrowly approved Merck’s COVID pill. I believe it isn’t a vaccine I think it is just to treat sick people.

[wango]

I knew someone that went to Europe recently and proof of vax was required to go into most buildings, including restaurants. I heard on radio Los Angeles is doing that but haven’t talked to anyone 1st hand. Do they just check your vaccine card? I’ve heard of people buying fake vaccine cards. Id think it would be really easy to fake them since they are just a signed piece of paper with stickers on them. I’m glad to hear the booster wasn’t too bad for ya, I haven’t gotten mine yet. Work is busy so I don’t want to risk having a bad reaction and missing days so I will wait a couple weeks and think about it when I’m off work for holidays.

I heard the FDA narrowly approved Merck’s COVID pill. I believe it isn’t a vaccine I think it is just to treat sick people.

I bring my card in case they won’t accept a picture of it on my phone. Yeah hear of fake cards all of the time, doesn’t surprise me. Looks like it would be pretty easy to do.

Haven’t gone into any stores yet that have requested the proof of vaccine (but masks are required). I don’t know if they will request being vaxed for stores in the future.

We timed our booster for after our dinner because the reservations were tough to get. We’re glad we did.

I hope you’re holding out ok in school. It’s got to be a tough year.

[almostgone]

no political fighting in threads that are not setup for it. This was question I had.
please dont fuck it up with political shit.

that said, good to see you around Euro.

Absolutely correct, Moose! Thank you for posting that up.

[redz]

Moderna booster for the wife & I. For both of us the body and headaches hit at about 12 hours afterwards, then lasted for about 18 hours. Mild for each of us. Vaccinations required at the last two restaurants I’ve gone to & gym (Los Angeles).

will you get a fourth shot in 6 months? At what point would you say no more? Just curious.

[wango]

will you get a fourth shot in 6 months? At what point would you say no more? Just curious.

Short answer is yes.

Why? The vax keeps far more folks out of the hospital & from dying. THAT is what it was designed to do, not to prevent the spread of Covid.

I’m 63 & I have older friends with medical conditions. I am taking that into consideration.

Lastly, I am a caring citizen. I would put my life on the line to save you or a stranger from death. Why? Because that’s what I think being a citizen means. I just think it’s the right thing to do, simple as that.

We could go very philosophical or spiritual from here & I would not object. That said, I am not a religious fanatic by any means.