tren pct

**wilson9d** · 07-31-2008, 09:53 PM

It seems like allot of guys use letro in their tren Pct. is there a reason to use letro for sides and pct instead of the other options?

**one8nine** · 07-31-2008, 09:54 PM

you are confused
letro is used to fight side effects of tren on cycle
letro is not good in pct

**magicstick2003** · 07-31-2008, 10:03 PM

letro is used as an estrogen suicide inhibitor (i think that's what it's called) IT prevents conversion of test into estrogen. Cabergoline is what prevents tren from being converted into progesterone.

as for the ? i've only seen guys going with arimidex or aromasin in pct

**wilson9d** · 07-31-2008, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

you are confused
letro is used to fight side effects of tren on cycle
letro is not good in pct

see its good i ask. so letro for sides, do any other options work for sides? what is a good pct then?

**one8nine** · 07-31-2008, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by magicstick2003

letro is used as an estrogen suicide inhibitor (i think that's what it's called) IT prevents conversion of test into estrogen. Cabergoline is what prevents tren from being converted into progesterone.

as for the ? i've only seen guys going with arimidex or aromasin in pct

wrong
letro is an aromatize inhibitor
and test isnt the only drug that aromatizes

also tren doesnt convert to anything
tren makes your progesterone receptors more sensitive, actual progesterone levels do not change from the tren
cabergoline lowers actual progesterone levels in the blood

arimidex is also a bad pct choice, it doesnt mix well with nolvadex
proviron is very common in pct, as is hcg

**one8nine** · 07-31-2008, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by wilson9d

see its good i ask. so letro for sides, do any other options work for sides? what is a good pct then?

estrogen/progesterone and gyno/side effects INFO FOR NEW GUYS

**wilson9d** · 07-31-2008, 10:24 PM

thats a good post thanks.

so if i run tren at 175mg ew for 6 weeks

for pct i should be able to use 40mg of nolva ed for 15days
then drop down to 20mg ed for the next 15day?

just keep letro for sides?

**one8nine** · 07-31-2008, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by wilson9d

thats a good post thanks.

so if i run tren at 175mg ew for 6 weeks

for pct i should be able to use 40mg of nolva ed for 15days
then drop down to 20mg ed for the next 15day?

just keep letro for sides?

175mg is nothing, youll shut down your natural test and hardly even replace it with something else
a good base dose to start is 50mg-100mg PER DAY
i hope you are planning to use test too? and injevt tren daily? (assuming it is tren ace)
yes but also stack 50mg proviron or 50mg aromasin with your nolva the whole time. nolva is the single best pct drug but a solid ai helps a lot

**wilson9d** · 07-31-2008, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

175mg is nothing, youll shut down your natural test and hardly even replace it with something else
a good base dose to start is 50mg-100mg PER DAY
i hope you are planning to use test too? and injevt tren daily? (assuming it is tren ace)
yes but also stack 50mg proviron or 50mg aromasin with your nolva the whole time. nolva is the single best pct drug but a solid ai helps a lot

an am going to run teat at 250mg a week for 8 weeks the reason for the low dose is to be sure is dont get any sides.

**one8nine** · 07-31-2008, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by wilson9d

an am going to run teat at 250mg a week for 8 weeks the reason for the low dose is to be sure is dont get any sides.

thats no good for a cycle bro
you are better off staying natural- more harm than good
or upping your dose and taking letro/caber
which esters??
test e? test c? test p?
tren a? tren e? tren h?

**RangersLTW** · 07-31-2008, 10:50 PM

Isn't there sides for running low dose, also?

**one8nine** · 07-31-2008, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by RangersLTW

Isn't there sides for running low dose, also?

good point
low dose, no letro/caber will make more sides than high dose+letro/caber

**RangersLTW** · 07-31-2008, 11:01 PM

Yes finally all the readin pays off. I going to top boys, all the way, move over, I am taking over. LMAO

**wilson9d** · 07-31-2008, 11:02 PM

Test e
So ideally I should run Test e 500 mg ew
And tren 50mg ed

Why are there so many threads saying to start slow to see how susceptible you are to sides?

What is the information source for the idea that a lowed dose cycle can cause more sides?

**RangersLTW** · 07-31-2008, 11:07 PM

novice cycle is 500mg/wk
Do not know a source for the low dose,but I think it will basically run your natural test out and then you will be replacing it with a lower dose. Kind of defeats the purpose.

**wilson9d** · 07-31-2008, 11:13 PM

natural test levels are arround 70mg a week so a 250mg a week does is 3.5 times natural levels.

**one8nine** · 07-31-2008, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by wilson9d

Test e
So ideally I should run Test e 500 mg ew
And tren 50mg ed

Why are there so many threads saying to start slow to see how susceptible you are to sides?

What is the information source for the idea that a lowed dose cycle can cause more sides?

sounds good cycle
but if you are willing to shoot every day why not use test prop instead?
like
1-8 test p 50mg ed
1-6 tren 50mg ed
1-8 letro .25mg ed
9-12 nolva 40mg + proviron 50mg

those dosages are low

a low dose with no letro will cause more sides than a high dose WITH LETRO
a high dose NO LETRO will cause more sides than a low dose NO letro

the key element is that if you use letro, you control your sides, no matter what the dose

**RangersLTW** · 07-31-2008, 11:18 PM

Hey I said I think. But your asking a question for a beginner cycle, right?

**one8nine** · 07-31-2008, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by wilson9d

natural test levels are arround 70mg a week so a 250mg a week does is 3.5 times natural levels.

whos? 16-26 year olds average 120mg

plus test e is only 70% test. so 250mg of test e is actually about 175mg ACTUAL TESTOSTERONE , the rest of the weight is enanthate ester

**daem** · 07-31-2008, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by one8nine

sounds good cycle
but if you are willing to shoot every day why not use test prop instead?
like
1-8 test p 50mg ed
1-6 tren 50mg ed
1-8 letro .25mg ed
9-12 nolva 40mg + proviron 50mg

those dosages are low

a low dose with no letro will cause more sides than a high dose WITH LETRO
a high dose NO LETRO will cause more sides than a low dose NO letro

the key element is that if you use letro, you control your sides, no matter what the dose

I admire your patience in repeatedly answering the same questions over, and over, and over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.

People are so needy on this board sometimes...

**RangersLTW** · 07-31-2008, 11:22 PM

dang I like that cycle. Low water weight, cut and low liver toxicity, with good gains. Pause.....taking notes from pros....

**one8nine** · 07-31-2008, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by daem

I admire your patience in repeatedly answering the same questions over, and over, and over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.

People are so needy on this board sometimes...