Anavar is NOT a mild compound where HPTA suppression/shutdown is concerned!!

[Atomini]

I know that sometimes there are stability issues with certain meds/compounds but I'm certain it will be fine for a 24 hour period. This is commonly practiced in medicine when patients cannot afford to get an individualized smaller dose from the compounding pharmacy and only have available to them generic drug doses. As long as the medicine is not a controlled release formulation, it is not a problem to dissolve it in water for a short period.

You might want to consider emptying the 150mg capsule into 1ml of water and then taking 0.25ml twice per day bc anavar had such a short half life.

Please let me know how it works out.

The question is how water soluble is Anavar? Hmmm.

I have used liquid Anavar (oral use) in the past, but it was in an oil-based solution, so.... this sounds interesting.

[largerthannormal]

TRIED IT LAST NIGHT...

VAR is NOT soluble in water. DO NOT ATTEMPT lol

I think im going to try veg oil.

Or ive heard 190 proof alcohol...

[AnabolicDoc]

I wasn't expecting it to be stable. I thought it would suspend in the water. This could be mixed and immediately divided in half by way of an oral syringe.

Liquid orals are often sold that are not soluble, both by pharmaceutical companies, compounding pharmacies and UGLs. In these cases, you're supposed to shake well before use, which is often printed on the label or bottle somewhere.

[Atomini]

Yeah I didn't suspect it to be. Anabolic steroids are fats themselves, and are highly lipophilic. I would suggest trying to mix it into an oil or fat based solvent.

[largerthannormal]

I wasn't expecting it to be stable. I thought it would suspend in the water. This could be mixed and immediately divided in half by way of an oral syringe.

Liquid orals are often sold that are not soluble, both by pharmaceutical companies, compounding pharmacies and UGLs. In these cases, you're supposed to shake well before use, which is often printed on the label or bottle somewhere.

Agreed! My liquid cialis is like that " must shake well" also has a greatly noticable taste of alcohol

Yeah I didn't suspect it to be. Anabolic steroids are fats themselves, and are highly lipophilic. I would suggest trying to mix it into an oil or fat based solvent.

I will give this a whirl!

[Bonaparte]

You have to suspend it in something thick. It will sink like sand in water or alcohol.

[largerthannormal]

Ive heard a couple guys do it in alcohol with a heat/reheat process or something to that extent. But Ill give the oil thing a try tonight.. I have enough chems with alcohol in it... lol trying to kick that habit!!

I agree should hold better in oil... wonder if a ml of oil is okay to ingest everyday?

i feel bad I should have just started my own thread... sorry Atomini.. ill shut it..........

[jimmyinkedup]

Humco oral suspension vehicle +10%ea and if you want flavor with mio.
You could also believe it or not use corn syrup and 20% ea as well.

[Atomini]

Humco oral suspension vehicle +10%ea and if you want flavor with mio.
You could also believe it or not use corn syrup and 20% ea as well.

I really need to pick your brains some time about the delivery vehicles and such. I remember in the Noopept thread you mentioned there was some kind of sublingual delivery component one could use to deliver compounds sublingually. I never knew about it or what it was. I need to look into this stuff.

[jimmyinkedup]

I really need to pick your brains some time about the delivery vehicles and such. I remember in the Noopept thread you mentioned there was some kind of sublingual delivery component one could use to deliver compounds sublingually. I never knew about it or what it was. I need to look into this stuff.

Ill gladly share anything I know. Still learning myself.

[BIGGUNSWANTED]

very informative

[largerthannormal]

great info as usual Jimmy!

Humco oral suspension vehicle +10%ea and if you want flavor with mio.
You could also believe it or not use corn syrup and 20% ea as well.

[MickeyKnox]

Bringing this back to the forefront..

[AnabolicDoc]

Humco oral suspension vehicle +10%ea and if you want flavor with mio.
You could also believe it or not use corn syrup and 20% ea as well.

There's also Ora-Plus, an oral suspension vehicle. Great White Peptides has it for sale. I'm sure you can shop around.

[largerthannormal]

Sounds good

[MickeyKnox]

Bump..

[Atomini]

Bump..

We getting a lot of kids asking about Anavar -only cycles "because its mild on the HPTA" lately, or what? lol

[largerthannormal]

Yep, agreed!! or the guys who think they can use it as a bridge

not a fan of bridges in the first place, not to mention with anavar ..

[buckydees]

Whoa I didnt realize the sides were this bad especially the sleeplessness part. Makes me reconsider doing a trt dose of test and high anavar dose. Maybe i should just do normal 500mg test and var at the end. If sides get too bad then i can drop var and finish as test only cycle.

Hi,

Atomni can I ask why you've just explained that anavar is bad for you and not mild but your taking it yourself? Also I am looking to cut up and have a course of anavar from a while ago what do you recommend I stack it with?

Thanks

[AnabolicDoc]

Ive heard a couple guys do it in alcohol with a heat/reheat process or something to that extent. But Ill give the oil thing a try tonight.. I have enough chems with alcohol in it... lol trying to kick that habit!!

I agree should hold better in oil... wonder if a ml of oil is okay to ingest everyday?

i feel bad I should have just started my own thread... sorry Atomini.. ill shut it..........

What did you end up doing with the Anavar as far as splitting the dose of the capsule?

[largerthannormal]

I still haven't came to a conclusion , I may do a suspension vehical. They are cheap enough

I may just pop each cap n split it.really didn't want to do that because I wanted to does @ 100.

I'll keep you posted!

[AnabolicDoc]

I think you should look into either oral suspension vehicle that I recommended or the one that Jimmy did. Consider all options - it doesn't hurt to take a look online.

[Atomini]

Hi,

Atomni can I ask why you've just explained that anavar is bad for you and not mild but your taking it yourself? Also I am looking to cut up and have a course of anavar from a while ago what do you recommend I stack it with?

Thanks

First of all, when did I ever say that Anavar is bad for you?

I am not currently taking Anavar.

I did run a recent cycle that included Anavar, which was simply for the purpose of being able to say i've tried it for the experience. I will never use it, or any orals, ever again. Oral anabolic steroids should be avoided at all costs if possible.

[tigerspawn]

Thanks Atomini very informative thread.

[mr.slippyfist69]

Yup...a kid( and I mean 20 yo) at my gym is running it solo and says its the safest one to run alone. Bet I'll be showing him that very telling graph you have posted. Thank you

[slimshady01]

First of all, when did I ever say that Anavar is bad for you?

I am not currently taking Anavar.

I did run a recent cycle that included Anavar, which was simply for the purpose of being able to say i've tried it for the experience. I will never use it, or any orals, ever again. Oral anabolic steroids should be avoided at all costs if possible.

I'm starting my var may first with 125 mg a test .

What didnt you like bro? I love var.

[buckydees]

First of all, when did I ever say that Anavar is bad for you?

I am not currently taking Anavar.

I did run a recent cycle that included Anavar, which was simply for the purpose of being able to say i've tried it for the experience. I will never use it, or any orals, ever again. Oral anabolic steroids should be avoided at all costs if possible.

Well you've said that it isn't as safe as people think and it can damage you etc, but if you read up on anavar on Wikipedia It contradicts what you said, and I've run anavar only cycles twice at 100 mg and had great results

[Atomini]

I'm starting my var may first with 125 mg a test .

What didnt you like bro? I love var.

I LOVED Anavar !! I didn't hate or dislike it at all. It is something I would indeed consider running again, but like I said, I will stick to injectables exclusively as much as I can.

Well you've said that it isn't as safe as people think and it can damage you etc, but if you read up on anavar on Wikipedia It contradicts what you said, and I've run anavar only cycles twice at 100 mg and had great results

Does Wikipedia mention anything about cholesterol issues resultant from oral anabolic steroids ? Does it mention anything related to the excessive androgenic activity in the hepatic system that leads to liver damage? No.

While Wikipedia is a decent source of information, especially since references are now used in its writings, I regard it as a woefully inefficient source of information for any compound (or any anabolics in general). It is by no means an extensive resource for researching any specific compound (in this case, Anavar).

Oral anabolic steroids , and it doesn't matter which ones, are among the WORST offenders for negative alterations in cholesterol. Hepatotoxicity is not the ONLY reason why the medical establishment places reccomended windows/timeframes of use on oral anabolic steroids, including Anavar. Altered cholesterol levels in the negative for extended periods of weeks or months wreaks horrid damage on the body. Hepatotoxicity is among the smallest concerns for most orals except for the most hepatotoxic ones, actually. The negative alterations in cholesterol values are astronomical compared to injectable anabolics, of which many of them barely alter cholesterol levels, if at all, when used judiciously.

I find that too many people either ignore or downplay the issue of cholesterol alterations (whether or not it is an oral or injectable AAS), and this is something that really needs to be taken more seriously by people. Especially considering the fact that many will not be getting regular bloodwork to monitor lipid profiles during cycles. You might not be able to feel negative cholesterol alterations, you might not be able to detect the damages and plaque buildup it causes in your arteries, but it damn well is sure to be doing that if your levels are excessively out of whack, and orals tend to do this quite a bit.

[buckydees]

I LOVED Anavar !! I didn't hate or dislike it at all. It is something I would indeed consider running again, but like I said, I will stick to injectables exclusively as much as I can.

Does Wikipedia mention anything about cholesterol issues resultant from oral anabolic steroids ? Does it mention anything related to the excessive androgenic activity in the hepatic system that leads to liver damage? No.

While Wikipedia is a decent source of information, especially since references are now used in its writings, I regard it as a woefully inefficient source of information for any compound (or any anabolics in general). It is by no means an extensive resource for researching any specific compound (in this case, Anavar).

Oral anabolic steroids , and it doesn't matter which ones, are among the WORST offenders for negative alterations in cholesterol. Hepatotoxicity is not the ONLY reason why the medical establishment places reccomended windows/timeframes of use on oral anabolic steroids, including Anavar. Altered cholesterol levels in the negative for extended periods of weeks or months wreaks horrid damage on the body. Hepatotoxicity is among the smallest concerns for most orals except for the most hepatotoxic ones, actually. The negative alterations in cholesterol values are astronomical compared to injectable anabolics, of which many of them barely alter cholesterol levels, if at all, when used judiciously.

I find that too many people either ignore or downplay the issue of cholesterol alterations (whether or not it is an oral or injectable AAS), and this is something that really needs to be taken more seriously by people. Especially considering the fact that many will not be getting regular bloodwork to monitor lipid profiles during cycles. You might not be able to feel negative cholesterol alterations, you might not be able to detect the damages and plaque buildup it causes in your arteries, but it damn well is sure to be doing that if your levels are excessively out of whack, and orals tend to do this quite a bit.

Fantastic you've answered my questions perfectly !! Many thanks

[JSumma]

Atomini and other astute peeps,

Thoughts on running Var at 75mg for weeks 5-12 on along with test prop 1-12? This would be a first cycle. The test would be 100 eod. Goal is massive strength increase with as little bulk/LBM as possible.

[Atomini]

I think your idea is sound and you could do it. When I ran Anavar , I did it at 100mg/day for 12 weeks. The first 8 of those 12 weeks, I used TUDCA to assist liver function, though. Anavar is an amazing compound for strength gains through my experience.

[JSumma]

I think your idea is sound and you could do it. When I ran Anavar, I did it at 100mg/day for 12 weeks. The first 8 of those 12 weeks, I used TUDCA to assist liver function, though. Anavar is an amazing compound for strength gains through my experience.

So, per your sticky on tren , would you say you prefer a low dose of tren to var even at this dosage. Hmmm...maybe I'm comparing apples to oranges as you ran Var for first cycle. Regardless, that tren sounds like a strong and versatile compound.

On an unrelated note, used to go to Canada A LOT when I dated a girl up there. She was all fancy smancy from the Bridle Path . Miss some GTA.

[Atomini]

So, per your sticky on tren , would you say you prefer a low dose of tren to var even at this dosage. Hmmm...maybe I'm comparing apples to oranges as you ran Var for first cycle. Regardless, that tren sounds like a strong and versatile compound.

On an unrelated note, used to go to Canada A LOT when I dated a girl up there. She was all fancy smancy from the Bridle Path . Miss some GTA.

Yes, I would definitely reccomend a low-moderate dose of Trenbolone , perhaps 300 - 400mg weekly over a 700mg weekly (100mg/day) dose of Anavar . I do believe that Trenbolone is far more versatile than Anavar in many respects.

Sounds like you know how to pick the right Canadian girls! lol

[MickeyKnox]

So, per your sticky on tren , would you say you prefer a low dose of tren to var even at this dosage. Hmmm...maybe I'm comparing apples to oranges as you ran Var for first cycle. Regardless, that tren sounds like a strong and versatile compound.

On an unrelated note, used to go to Canada A LOT when I dated a girl up there. She was all fancy smancy from the Bridle Path . Miss some GTA.

She was loaded! You should have hung on to that.

[Bonaparte]

Nevermind...

[lovbyts]

bump

[MickeyKnox]

Bump..

[MickeyKnox]

Bump..

[dumpslugzz]

Do juice its officially on season!!!

[dumpslugzz]

May june july august = the p ussy cycle!!!!! Cuz you just go on it and you get p ussy