Screwed up my TRT protocol…now my Dr. is punishing me!

**APIs** · 12-03-2013, 12:58 PM

Never let a Woman Doctor manage your TRT. She's bitch-slapping you for not listening & basically castrating you in the process. Severe control issues & a nut-job IMO. The fact that she would let you crash for 3 weeks is grossly irresponsible to say the least. She'd be better off dismissing you as a patient for not following directions in the use of a controlled substance instead of playing games like this.

OP should be on every 4 day injections anyway, as serum levels start to decline fast @ 5 days. The protocol she has you on is skewed from the get-go.

Find a Male TRT specialist & then drop this psycho...

**bass** · 12-03-2013, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by APIs

Never let a Woman Doctor manage your TRT. She's bitch-slapping you for not listening & basically castrating you in the process. Severe control issues & a nut-job IMO. The fact that she would let you crash for 3 weeks is grossly irresponsible to say the least. She'd be better off dismissing you as a patient for not following directions in the use of a controlled substance instead of playing games like this.

OP should be on every 4 day injections anyway, as serum levels start to decline fast @ 5 days. The protocol she has you on is skewed from the get-go.

Find a Male TRT specialist & then drop this psycho...

LOL, my doc is female and she is awesome! I know I am lucky

**APIs** · 12-03-2013, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by bass

LOL, my doc is female and she is awesome! I know I am lucky

LOL, I thought of you too Bass while I was writing this! You'd have to admit though, you are the exception to what we hear on here regarding Female TRT Docs typically failing their patients...

**Low Testosterone** · 12-03-2013, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by bass

LOL, my doc is female and she is awesome! I know I am lucky

TRT is not difficult medicine. It's probably one of the simplest, easiest forms of medicine to ever exist. It shouldn't matter if the doctor is a man or woman. I can think of plenty of terrible male doctors that practice TRT and just as many bad female ones. The sex shouldn't make a bit of difference.

**bass** · 12-03-2013, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Low Testosterone

TRT is not difficult medicine. It's probably one of the simplest, easiest forms of medicine to ever exist. It shouldn't matter if the doctor is a man or woman. I can think of plenty of terrible male doctors that practice TRT and just as many bad female ones. The sex shouldn't make a bit of difference.

I agree, but I think API was referring more to ego than a gender. I agree with your post #18, I was not referring to the scenario you mentioned, but more like if you're not satisfied with the results from your current doc simply find another one.

**Low Testosterone** · 12-03-2013, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by bass

I agree, but I think API was referring more to ego than a gender. I agree with your post #18, I was not referring to the scenario you mentioned, but more like if you're not satisfied with the results from your current doc simply find another one.

Agreed. I do think some people are a little impatient and hurt themselves by being that way. A lot of people expect TRT to be life changing overnight and as you know, it just doesn't work that way. But, there are bad physicians and sometimes there are bad patients. It works both ways.

**Ryanmcd** · 12-03-2013, 10:30 PM

3 weeks is nothing, also after "Over 8 months" you ran out to the LAST DROP every time? I know very few docs who count it to the last ML.

**APIs** · 12-04-2013, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by bass

I agree, but I think API was referring more to ego than a gender. I agree with your post #18, I was not referring to the scenario you mentioned, but more like if you're not satisfied with the results from your current doc simply find another one.

Has nothing to do with ego Bass. Also, IMO bad medicine no matter how you slice it does not deserve PC professional courtesy either. 3 weeks without treatment? Come on, that's just plain irresponsible behavior no matter how you try & paint the picture whether Male or Female.

This forum (except in your case) has demonstrated that you can't fill the digits on your right hand counting the number of capable Female TRT Docs out there. Just the way it is. Could that change? It most likely will, but I'm just not convinced that a Female Doc can understand & relate to this ailment in the same way a Man can. No harm or foul intended, it's just what I have seen on this forum...

**dreadnok89** · 12-04-2013, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by APIs

Has nothing to do with ego Bass. Also, IMO bad medicine no matter how you slice it does not deserve PC professional courtesy either. 3 weeks without treatment? Come on, that's just plain irresponsible behavior no matter how you try & paint the picture whether Male or Female.

This forum (except in your case) has demonstrated that you can't fill the digits on your right hand counting the number of capable Female TRT Docs out there. Just the way it is. Could that change? It most likely will, but I'm just not convinced that a Female Doc can understand & relate to this ailment in the same way a Man can. No harm or foul intended, it's just what I have seen on this forum...

This 100 percent.

**Low Testosterone** · 12-04-2013, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by APIs

Has nothing to do with ego Bass. Also, IMO bad medicine no matter how you slice it does not deserve PC professional courtesy either. 3 weeks without treatment? Come on, that's just plain irresponsible behavior no matter how you try & paint the picture whether Male or Female.

This forum (except in your case) has demonstrated that you can't fill the digits on your right hand counting the number of capable Female TRT Docs out there. Just the way it is. Could that change? It most likely will, but I'm just not convinced that a Female Doc can understand & relate to this ailment in the same way a Man can. No harm or foul intended, it's just what I have seen on this forum...

I'm not asking this in a condescending way. What is it that a female physician needs to relate to? What is it about male TRT that's so complicated that a female could never understand, especially when it is perhaps the single most basic form of medicine known to man?

As far as 3wks with no testosterone , will you get a little tired and worn out? Sure. Will it be the end of the world or detrimental to your health in any way? Absolutely not and to imply so is a bit over the top.

**dreadnok89** · 12-04-2013, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Low Testosterone

I'm not asking this in a condescending way. What is it that a female physician needs to relate to? What is it about male TRT that's so complicated that a female could never understand, especially when it is perhaps the single most basic form of medicine known to man?

As far as 3wks with no testosterone, will you get a little tired and worn out? Sure. Will it be the end of the world or detrimental to your health in any way? Absolutely not and to imply so is a bit over the top.

5out of 5 were awful. And demasculating. At least I found 2 descent guys out of 8!

**kelkel** · 12-04-2013, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Low Testosterone

I'm not asking this in a condescending way. What is it that a female physician needs to relate to? What is it about male TRT that's so complicated that a female could never understand, especially when it is perhaps the single most basic form of medicine known to man?

As far as 3wks with no testosterone, will you get a little tired and worn out? Sure. Will it be the end of the world or detrimental to your health in any way? Absolutely not and to imply so is a bit over the top.

To play devils advocate to the statement in bold. Then why are there so many docs of either gender that do not grasp the concept of hormone replacement? Or even the concept of a half-life which is constantly an issue. I know you understand it as do many here, but it still seems that so many do not. So, either they don't apply themselves or further educate themselves on the topic. To the best of my knowledge the topic of hormones (replacement, etc) is barely covered in med school. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

**Machdiesel** · 12-04-2013, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by APIs

Has nothing to do with ego Bass. Also, IMO bad medicine no matter how you slice it does not deserve PC professional courtesy either. 3 weeks without treatment? Come on, that's just plain irresponsible behavior no matter how you try & paint the picture whether Male or Female.

This forum (except in your case) has demonstrated that you can't fill the digits on your right hand counting the number of capable Female TRT Docs out there. Just the way it is. Could that change? It most likely will, but I'm just not convinced that a Female Doc can understand & relate to this ailment in the same way a Man can. No harm or foul intended, it's just what I have seen on this forum...

I don't think it has anything to do with relating. And even if it did a women can certainly relate, especially if she's been through menapause. Symptoms of low T are documented and understood. Symptoms of high/low estrogen the same. It's a balancing act between drug dosages/frequency , bloodwork and patient feedback. It's actually pretty black and white. I agree some doctors have pure conceived notions about TRT but again, it goes back to being a good DR. And taking in to account what I posted above. Also a male with normal test levels can t relate either, if they have energy and feel good they have no idea what low T feels like, and may be even quicker to dismiss it.

**bass** · 12-04-2013, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by APIs

Has nothing to do with ego Bass. Also, IMO bad medicine no matter how you slice it does not deserve PC professional courtesy either. 3 weeks without treatment? Come on, that's just plain irresponsible behavior no matter how you try & paint the picture whether Male or Female.

This forum (except in your case) has demonstrated that you can't fill the digits on your right hand counting the number of capable Female TRT Docs out there. Just the way it is. Could that change? It most likely will, but I'm just not convinced that a Female Doc can understand & relate to this ailment in the same way a Man can. No harm or foul intended, it's just what I have seen on this forum...

i get your point. my doc went through hell and had to remover her womb, then she experienced the hormone imbalance rollercoaster, that's when she decided to learn about balancing hormone and came to a full understanding of it. would her views and treatment for her patients be the same if she didn't go through it herself?! and the same applied to a male doctor. no one knows really.