Batman's First Cycle Test E & Dbol

[Batman360]

Finally my 4 week dbol kick start is finished!!! Batman did you get any headaches while on the dbol? Just the last 3 days i started getting them, and also seem to be sweating alot. Also very very tired and lathargic.

Im glad the dbol is over, but will carry on milk thistle for 2 weeks to get the liver values down. Now its just 2 shots a week, no problemo.

To tell the truth the only time I got headaches I got was when I do squats and push myself but I don't know if the dbol had to do with that. I also never got any lower back pumps like other people get. While on Dbol my muscles would get pumped for doing just little things like washing dishes, would pump up my bi's and forearms. I don't know if this relates to the dbol or test e but the hardest side effect for me is the tiredness. It's ridiculous. I can't sleep at night and all I want to do is wake up. I wake up then 1 or 2 hours later I get very tired and I go to sleep for 2-3 hours, a good sleep. I wake up, then I'm good for 4 hours max till I get tired again and I want to sleep again. It's strange. It's not everday I can sleep any time I want but I try to sleep before a workout so my mind is clear and awake.

[Batman360]

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If you dont mind chuck us your leg measurment at its widest point wherever it is. even if its all the way up your thigh. be interesting to know.

peace

Widest point on my leg is close to 27 inches.

[Batman360]

Day 35 May 21, 2009

Went to see Terminator Salvation with the family today. It thought it was a really well made movie. Highly recommended for all the bb'ers out there! To replace my lost Zune I ordered an 8 GB imitaion Ipod for $21. The economy is too bad to be buying the best these days. Hopefully it will sound as good as my lost Zune. I went to the gym even though I really wasn't feeling it today. It was a bad leg workout but at least I went and tried. There is another gym rat like myself that was eyeing me at the gym. He's around 6'2, 40, bald and goes to the gym all the time. I used to think this guy was huge 3 years ago, saw him benching 150 lbs dumbells. Now that I don't have my headphones I've been hearing this guy conversate with others. He seems like a know it all and critisizes other people too much, like one guy who logs every lift and calls him a name I forgot. He thinks hes old school and I dont think he can stand the younger guys catching up to him. Well we were both on the leg press machines. He was on a leg press machine behind me. I was doing 6 plates each side, he was doing 11 plates but not going as low as me. I think the guy was on roid rage or something because when I started my set he goes at the same time as me and yells "little fu^ker". I know what was on his mind but it seems he couldn't control what came out of his mouth. He's probably mad he's not the biggest guy at the gym anymore. I think there should be a level of respect especially when he knows hard it is to get big, instead of hating. Wait till he see's me a few more weeks from now.

Quads

Squats 315 x 8, 365 x 8, 375 x 4 (terrible last set)

Leg Press 540 lbs x 8, 590 x 8, 610 x 8

Leg Extension 190 x 8, 170 x 8

[Batman360]

Day 36 May 22, 2009

I'm suprised I gained anything at all with my diet being so sloppy and unorganized this week and my inconsistent workouts. Greatful, but I don't think I deserved it. I'm going to up the level of my diet next week since 2 lbs in a week isn't going to cut it.

Week 5 Results
Weight 222 vs 220 last week PR! Gained 2 lbs
Waist 34.25 vs 34.25 last week Gained 0
Chest/Back 49 vs 48.5 last week PR! Gained .5
Shoulders 54.5 vs 54.25 last week Gained .25
Arms 19.125 vs 19 last week PR! Gained .125
Forearms 14.25 vs 14.25 last week Gained 0
Quads/Hamstrings 26.25 vs 26.25 last week Gained 0
Calves 16.875 vs 16.5 last week PR! Gained .375

Back

Pull-ups 19, 15, 8

Deadlifts 405 lbs x 8 (warm-up), 485 x 8, 495 x 6 (5 plates reached)

Close-Grip Cable Pull Down 250 lbs x 8, 250 x 8 250 x 10

Close-Grip Cable Rows 190 lbs x 12, 200 x 12, 210 x 12

[K.O]

Big difference, came of the Dbol , and a couple of days later the tiredness is gone!!! Hey batman forget the as* hole in the gym, you carry on doing your training. I think he might be talking to his willy when he was calling it "little fu^cker" lol.

[1bigun11]

Interesting thread. I like the stats and the pictures. You were smart for waiting and building a great foundation before starting the juice. You have a great future ahead of you. Good job.

[Batman360]

Interesting thread. I like the stats and the pictures. You were smart for waiting and building a great foundation before starting the juice. You have a great future ahead of you. Good job.

Thanks. I try to make it as interesting as possible. I see lots of threads with lack of pictures, among other things. Probably because they think they will fail to make any changes, which is a setup toward failure. I take my training seriously and I promise to keep making results as long as I'm on the juice because there is no excuse not to make results with these chemicals in my body.

[daddyzzs]

Batman has a P.M.

[bjpennnn]

****en beast

[getzwolez33]

Deadlifts 405 lbs x 8 (warm-up), 485 x 8, 495 x 6 (5 plates reached)

solid lifts ....


nice weight increase .... hopefully dbol bloat wont decrease your progression... gl...

[mperk]

Day 35 May 21, 2009

Went to see Terminator Salvation with the family today. It thought it was a really well made movie. Highly recommended for all the bb'ers out there! To replace my lost Zune I ordered an 8 GB imitaion Ipod for $21. The economy is too bad to be buying the best these days. Hopefully it will sound as good as my lost Zune. I went to the gym even though I really wasn't feeling it today. It was a bad leg workout but at least I went and tried. There is another gym rat like myself that was eyeing me at the gym. He's around 6'2, 40, bald and goes to the gym all the time. I used to think this guy was huge 3 years ago, saw him benching 150 lbs dumbells. Now that I don't have my headphones I've been hearing this guy conversate with others. He seems like a know it all and critisizes other people too much, like one guy who logs every lift and calls him a name I forgot. He thinks hes old school and I dont think he can stand the younger guys catching up to him. Well we were both on the leg press machines. He was on a leg press machine behind me. I was doing 6 plates each side, he was doing 11 plates but not going as low as me. I think the guy was on roid rage or something because when I started my set he goes at the same time as me and yells "little fu^ker". I know what was on his mind but it seems he couldn't control what came out of his mouth. He's probably mad he's not the biggest guy at the gym anymore. I think there should be a level of respect especially when he knows hard it is to get big, instead of hating. Wait till he see's me a few more weeks from now.

Quads

Squats 315 x 8, 365 x 8, 375 x 4 (terrible last set)

Leg Press 540 lbs x 8, 590 x 8, 610 x 8

Leg Extension 190 x 8, 170 x 8

Hahahahaha - Now - There's a healthy attitude! I'm pushing 50 and i see young guys like you and I think - "Little ****er! Now why didn't I lift with that intensity when i was THAT age?" hahaha - I love the idea of competing with the guys who are 25, 35 or 45! Not that I'll catch up, but it's such good motivation.

BTW - Not to brag - but I hit 11 plates a few weeks agagoO! Yippee then the next week I pulled a muscle and have't done it agian....hahahaha

Awsome results from week 5 - You arms must be fukkin HUGE! great work, dude!

[Batman360]

Day 40 May 26, 2009

Good workout. Chest strength didn't jump so much as the last 2 weeks but any progress is progress. My triceps had no tearing feeling today so I gave it a few more exercises.

Chest/Triceps

Bench Press 325 lbs x 6, 330 x 5, 335 x 5

Incline Bench 275 lbs x 6, 280 lbs x 6, 285 x 4

Decline Bench 285 lbs x 8, 295 x 8, 305 x 6

Lying Tricep Extensions 135 lbs x 10, 155 x 8

Seated Tricep Extensions 135 lbs x 10, 145 x 8

Seated One-hand Tricep Extensions 50 lbs x 10, 55 x 8

Dips (bodyweight) x 25, 16

Dumbell Kickbacks 50lbs x 20, 20

Cable Extensions 80 lbs x 10, 90 x 10

[Batman360]

Batman has a P.M.

Did you send me one? I didn't get it.

[mperk]

Beastly arm workout, batman! How did u manage the 50lb kickbacks after all that other shit - your tris must have been screaming! LOL

[K.O]

hey batman hows progress going? You taking anything for hairloss? Any gyno kicked in yet?

Ive started my 6th week and i am really beginning to notice some strength and size. lost some when the dbol stopped.

Also any mishaps while injecting? I think my glutes are beginning to run out of space lol. I happpned to bleed around 3 ampules of blood! No blood when aspirating, but as soon as the injection came out. booom all over the bathroom floor! Hopefully the good stuff stayed inside....

[Batman360]

hey batman hows progress going? You taking anything for hairloss? Any gyno kicked in yet?

Ive started my 6th week and i am really beginning to notice some strength and size. lost some when the dbol stopped.

Also any mishaps while injecting? I think my glutes are beginning to run out of space lol. I happpned to bleed around 3 ampules of blood! No blood when aspirating, but as soon as the injection came out. booom all over the bathroom floor! Hopefully the good stuff stayed inside....

Progress is so so right now, gains not coming easy anymore. I haven't updated as often anymore because I'm not going to the gym like I should be. I have to work myself to death to make any progress from now on. I just finished my 6th week, I'll post stat update tommorrow. Thats some crazy bleeding! The only time I bleed bad was my first injection. I'm not taking anything for hairloss but I wish I did, it's too late now, will for sure on all future cycles since I do see more hair than usual fall out when I take a bath. Nipples get sore at times but no gyno, yet anyway.

[Batman360]

Day 43 May 29, 2009

Mixed results this week. I only trained 2 days this week which was Back and Chest/Triceps. However I have been eating correctly so I would not lose much size. I lost some size on legs and calves but nothing crazy. I post my losses also so people can see it's not just take injections and you grow. Even though I ate right I still lost size because I'm not training like I should be. The good news is my arms are now 19 1/4, only 3/4 from having 20's. That is a definite goal I have for the end of my cycle. Shoulders went up 1/2 inch probably from those 50lb dumbell kickbacks that also hit my rear shoulders. Lost 1/4 inch to my waist. I'm sorry I let you guys down this week. I will step up my game from now on! I Promise!

Week 6 Results
Weight 222 vs 222 last week Gained 0 lbs
Waist 34 vs 34.25 last week Lost .25
Chest/Back 49.125 vs 49 last week PR! Gained .125
Shoulders 55 vs 54.5 last week Gained .5
Arms 19.25 vs 19.125 last week PR! Gained .125
Forearms 14.25 vs 14.25 last week Gained 0
Quads/Hamstrings 26 vs 26.25 last week Lost .25
Calves 16.5 vs 16.875 last week Lost .375

Since I'm 6 weeks in, my half way point through the 12 week cycle I decided to post my progress in those 6 weeks. I may bump my cycle up another 2 weeks if results are still coming. So far I am very happy with my progress. I expected my waist to be at 36 by the time I reached this weight but I'm far from it which is an indication that this stuff works.

Weeks 1-6
Weight 222 vs 201 week 1 Gained 21
Waist 34 vs 33 week 1 Gained 1
Chest/Back 49.125 vs 46.5 week 1 Gained 2.625
Shoulders 55 vs 53 week 1 Gained 2
Arms 19.25 vs 18.125 week 1 Gained 1.125
Forearms 14.25 vs 13.25 week 1 Gained 1
Quads/Hamstrings 26 vs 24.375 week 1 Gained 1.625
Calves 16.5 vs 16 week 1 Gained .5

I forced myself to go to the gym tonight even though I was really tired. Too my suprise I did very good and hit many PR's. I keep getting asked how I got my traps big. I say I do heavy deadlifts. What about shrugs he says? I don't do them I say. And he goes, No way!

Biceps/Legs

EZ Barbell Curl 110 lbs x 12

Standing Dumbell Curls (each arm) 85 lbs x 10, 90 x 8

Reverse Barbell Preacher Curl 100 lbs x 6, 6

Cable Curls 30 lbs x 15, 35 x 15

Squats 315 lbs x 8, 365 x 8, 375 x 8

Dumbell Preacher Curls 50 lbs x 15, 55 x 15

Forearm curls 40 lbs x 25, 20

Leg Extensions 180 lbs x 15, 200 x 15, 220 x 10 (note, done at different gym, so a different machine from previous workout)

Two handed Cable Curls 25 lbs x 15, 30 x 15, 35 x 12

[mperk]

Damn dude - those are some impressive gains - You're almost in the 20" club! I'm working towards that but only at 17.5 - a long way to go!

Excellente!

[Batman360]

Thanks man. The 20" club is one I never thought I would get to. My long-term goal was to get 18, but since I got them I wasn't going to stop there. People think I have over 20 inchs already but I tell them I'm not there yet, but almost.

[Lightsout2184]

keep it up. ive been following u. i like ur detailed posts on ur progress

[bifda]

good work batman, 20 inch arms is a goal for me too, they are 18 atm and 14' forearms.

sometimes things get in the way of training , which is a pain in the ass, but keep up the good work, im on here everyday to view your progress and get some inspiration.

[Batman360]

Day 46 June 1, 2009

Sometimes I can't believe that I'm benching as much as I am and get kind of nervous on the way to the gym knowing what I'm about to lift. But as soon as I change into my tank top my confidence is boosted because of all the muscle showing. Weighed in at 223 before my workout. I was happy with my weight so it got me in a good mood for my workout. Strength is still going up. I almost didn't get the last rep on my last set of Bench Press with no spotter. I really don't want to feel what 340 lbs feels like rolling down my chest and stomach from trying to get it off. The most I've ever had come down on me was 275 lbs and it left a bruise and hurt, also the embarrasment. Luckily I got it up. One lift I don't risk is the decline bench because there is no place to roll to, other than your neck. I also should note that I took an extra injection of 250mg of test yesterday because I accidently injected on Thursday instead of Friday so I didn't want there to be a huge time gap between injections. Cycle will still be 500mg per week though with exception of last week.

Chest/Triceps

Flat Bench Press 330 lbs x 6, 335 x 6, 340 x 5

Incline Bench Press 280 lbs x 5, 5, 5

Decline Bench Press 295 lbs x 7, 305 x 6

Lying Tricep Extensions 155 lbs x 10, 165 x 7

Seated Tricep Extensions 145 lbs x 7, 135 x 9

Seated One-hand Overhead Tricep Extensions 55 lbs x 10, 60 x 8

Dumbell Kickbacks 50lbs x 20, 55 x 20

Cable Tricep Extensions 75 lbs x 15, 85 x 15

Dips (bodyweight) x 20, 16

Cable Extensions 80 lbs x 10, 90 x 10

[alpmaster]

Sometimes I can't believe that I'm benching as much as I am and get kind of nervous on the way to the gym knowing what I'm about to lift. But as soon as I change into my tank top my confidence is boosted because of all the muscle showing.

Hehe.. please stay the cool modest guy we're all enjoying reading about.

[bifda]

nice progress mate, i know what you mean about the weight on the bench, when i get under 315 i sometimes think "sh1t this is heavy" but then i start reppin and knock 12 out.

as for getting stuck under the bar with no spotter, i did just that 2 weeks ago.
last rep of last set on close grip press and i burnt out with 250 lbs on my chest lol, someone came along 20 seconds later tho just as i was prepairin to get it off.

no need to to be bang on all the time with injections tho one day out aint gonna make alota difference mate.

good work, keep us posted.

you got any recent pics?

[Batman360]

Hehe.. please stay the cool modest guy we're all enjoying reading about.

It's probably the roids going into effect, lol. Nah, I'm a very modest guy and I never brag about my lifts or gains to anyone. My ego does go up in the gym but not in a bad way. I'm not in the gym thinking I'm better than other people and how much I lift more than others or how bigger I am. When I'm in the gym I see no one else there because I'm in my zone. I'm only focused on what I lift and improving on that. If other people want to use me as their motivation in the gym and challenge me like that guy did on the leg machine that's fine by me. It happens all the time and the only reason I noticed this particular time is because I didn't have my MP3. It's natural because guys want to be the alpha male, the biggest and strongest in the room. In my opinion bodybuilding is a selfish sport where we think about ourselves too much and focus on our individual progress. Here's a clip I found with Arnold explaining why ego is important. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-YbpJpS_xU

[Batman360]

nice progress mate, i know what you mean about the weight on the bench, when i get under 315 i sometimes think "sh1t this is heavy" but then i start reppin and knock 12 out.

as for getting stuck under the bar with no spotter, i did just that 2 weeks ago.
last rep of last set on close grip press and i burnt out with 250 lbs on my chest lol, someone came along 20 seconds later tho just as i was prepairin to get it off.

no need to to be bang on all the time with injections tho one day out aint gonna make alota difference mate.

good work, keep us posted.

you got any recent pics?

20 seconds with 250 lbs on your chest! that would've broke something if I held it that long. That's impressive strength you have on the bench press! I didn't plan on taking pics until the end of my cycle but if I get to 230 lbs then maybe I'll post pics then.

[mperk]

Dumn dude - 340? - that's impressive as hell! Thank god for male ego - or i'd be a couch potato watching Britany Spears vids on MTV!


I can hardly WAIT to get to 3 plates on a side on the bench - I'm up to 2 and a quarter so I thinkl it's possible.


Keep pumping the iron, buddy!

[ciptech]

hey bro,

been following your thread. when you posting the new pics? keep it up

[youngerlion]

good gains . lookin forward to the pics

[Batman360]

Thanks guys. I don't see the point in posting pics until I reach 230 lbs to see a difference from my previous pics. I'm definetly feeling the pressure though, so thanks for that.

[Batman360]

Day 47 June 2, 2009

I was too tired to go to the gym but my little brother kept pushing me to join him. I'm glad I did because I beat my previous deadlift by 10 lbs. I felt I had 2 more reps in me on the second set but my underhand grip on my left arm was not holding. I stopped at 6 so I didn't have to risk dropping it but now I wish I should've kept going even if I did drop it. I was ready for my 3rd set and I knew I was going to get at least 6 with 10 more lbs but I only got 1 because of my grip again. This gym was a different one than the one I usually train back. The reason I never train back in the one I went today is because it is more humid especially in the summer and makes gripping impossible with all the sweat. I'm happy I beat my previous deadlift though, especially under these conditions.

Back

Pull-ups 20, 15, 10

Deadlift 405 lbs (warm-up) x 8, 505 x 6, 515 x 1 (crap...)

Close-grip Cable Pulldown 240 lbs x 10, 250 x 10, 250 x 10

Close-grip Cable Rows 200 lbs x 12, 210 x 12, 220 x 12

[Chopperbox]

Its hard to believe that in 6 months being natural one can gain 35 pounds. Unless its fat, form your pics it does not seem like fat. Sure its your first cycle if so.... you are a bodybuilding prodigy. Good job.

[bifda]

batman you seem to do low volume of sets on compound lifts with low reps, why dont you up the sets to say 5-7 with 4-6 reps?

Im not being an ass , just thought you might get better results this way?

[Batman360]

Its hard to believe that in 6 months being natural one can gain 35 pounds. Unless its fat, form your pics it does not seem like fat. Sure its your first cycle if so.... you are a bodybuilding prodigy. Good job.

Thank you. Yes, this is my first cycle ever. Never even used any prohormones as I've read it's more dangerous than real steroids and less effective. Those 6 months were all mind over matter. I was in deep depression at that time going through a tough time and I felt really down. I used the gym to help me feel better and to feel like I am somebody. It has helped me tremendously more mental than physical can ever do. I'm pretty sure this won't be the last cycle I do as I'm about to do in 3 months what I did in 6 months before.

[Batman360]

batman you seem to do low volume of sets on compound lifts with low reps, why dont you up the sets to say 5-7 with 4-6 reps?

Im not being an ass , just thought you might get better results this way?

Yeah I'm a fan of doing low volume sets and low reps with very heavy weight. Every set I nearly die from the intensity. I don't think I could do 5-7 sets this way unless I lowered the weight. I usually just do 3 sets per exercise, but each set is torture. I have an open mind though. Why do you feel 5-7 sets would be better than 3?

[bifda]

Yeah I'm a fan of doing low volume sets and low reps with very heavy weight. Every set I nearly die from the intensity. I don't think I could do 5-7 sets this way unless I lowered the weight. I usually just do 3 sets per exercise, but each set is torture. I have an open mind though. Why do you feel 5-7 sets would be better than 3?

with lower reps you really need more sets imo, if im doing 10-12 range then ill do 4 sets, but if im doing 4-6 reps ill do 6 sets every time on bench,deads and squats.

i know everyone is different ,but ive always seen this as standard routine and if i were on cycle id deffo be hitting those numbers and jotting it in my gym diary mate.

give it a shot, go for 5 sets of 6 on the bench see how you feel.

stay strong.

[alpmaster]

with lower reps you really need more sets imo, if im doing 10-12 range then ill do 4 sets, but if im doing 4-6 reps ill do 6 sets every time on bench,deads and squats.

i know everyone is different ,but ive always seen this as standard routine and if i were on cycle id deffo be hitting those numbers and jotting it in my gym diary mate.

give it a shot, go for 5 sets of 6 on the bench see how you feel.

stay strong.

I disagree and think the way the OP is training is pretty on point. Just because you do lower reps doesn't mean you need to do more sets. A workout isn't about hitting some magical amount of volume, it only has 1 purpose, to give the muscle a stimulus to grow afterwards.

However, I would give you're method a try only as a variance to keep that stimulus strong, but it's important not to go to overboard. And I fully understand you're opinion and it's all about what works for who, I'm just handing off the knowledge that my professor have given me and that I've learned from my own years training.

Good job on the log OP, I'm always interested.

[energizer bunny]

Hey man, excellent Log, also looking great.... keep up the good work...

[geneticallyAlpha]

my chest is clearly my weak point in training. for me

i coudlnt bench 120kgs at once stage for 1 rep not long ago

a friend at the gym goes.
'start off at lets say 80kgs for example and do 5 sets of 5 reps
no more no less. make sure you do the 5.
sounds easy but by the end of the 5th set coming to 5 repsetc etc'

did it one week on 100kgs after 2 weeks using that method.
pow benched 150ks (330lbs) x 2 easily

at the end of the day it probably has nothing to do with sticking to
the 'bible' and doing the '5 reps no more or no less'
or what another poster suggested upping the sets for the low reps.
its the changing of the stimulus to the muscle being worked so that a plateu is at least trying to be avoided.
exactly like when gearing it changing dosages and substances so that
the receptors dont become accustomed to the drugs and thus less effective.

great progress batman!

[bifda]

I disagree and think the way the OP is training is pretty on point. Just because you do lower reps doesn't mean you need to do more sets. A workout isn't about hitting some magical amount of volume, it only has 1 purpose, to give the muscle a stimulus to grow afterwards.

However, I would give you're method a try only as a variance to keep that stimulus strong, but it's important not to go to overboard. And I fully understand you're opinion and it's all about what works for who, I'm just handing off the knowledge that my professor have given me and that I've learned from my own years training.

Good job on the log OP, I'm always interested.

i agree mate there is no magic number, just seems to me the op could bump those sets up while on cycle.

mix it up batman