Batman's First Cycle Test E & Dbol

[streamline89]

hey batman can you send me some pics of your progress? keep up the good work bud.

[Batman360]

Day 53 June 8, 2009

Ok guys I'm really disappointed with myself. I have made no gains except strength gains these last 2 1/2 weeks. I didn't even bother posting week 7 results because I made none. Im stuck at 222 lbs in bodyweight. This is when I have to evalute things and see where the problem is. It's not my training because I kill myself every workout and seem to be getting stronger. My waist has stayed at around 34 in. It has to be my diet, 100%. If I was eating like I was supposed to during bulking my waist size should be going up. Not in exageration but it should be going up and it's not so that must mean I'm not eating enough. That's why I'm making my waist goal to get to 36 inchs. Maybe it's a mental thing that I don't want to eat too much because it's summer and I don't like the fat in this heat. I have to get past that if I want to get any bigger. It's a small price to pay for some more muscle mass. I'll deal with the fat consequences later. I'm thinking of adding Dbol into my cycle again for the last 4 weeks of my 14 week cycle. If I would start it on week 10, thats a 6 week gap from the first 4 weeks that I used it. I've seen people on this board go up to 8 weeks straight. If I run into any problems like liver pain then I would stop. I liked the bloated feel it gave me like my body was full of water. I'm not a drinker so I think my liver can handle it at 40-50 mg per day. Chest day not as good as last week but for having a very crappy diet the last 4 days it could have been worse so I wasn't that dissapointed. I just have to work my way back up again.
Chest/Triceps

Flat Bench Press 315 lbs x 6, 325 x 6, 335 x 5

Incline Bench Press 280 lbs x 5, 5

Decline Bench Press 275 lbs x 8, 285 x 6, 295 x 7

Lying Tricep Extensions 155 lbs x 10, 165 x 8

Seated Tricep Extensions 125 lbs x 12, 135 x 10

Seated One-hand Overhead Tricep Extensions 60 lbs x 8, 65 x 6

Dumbell Kickbacks 60lbs x 20,

Dips (bodyweight) x 26, 18

Cable Tricep Extensions 90 lbs x 12, 95 x 12, 100 x 12

[mperk]

Hey Batman;
Looks like ytou are def pounding some good weight. Maybe try a PL appraoch for a few weeks and see if that helps break thru the plateau. I tried the "westside training for Skinny bastards" - advanced, and really liked it. You also might want to look at changing your diet - swap out your protein source chicken for fish and carbs sweet potatoe for rice, etc. Keep the macros the same and make sure you get at least 4500 calls a day. The dbol sounds good, altho recently I've heard of a few guys who do Avar at the end and really like it. I'm at the end now and trying out winny for the last 6 weeks. Good luck, bro - great progress overall! keep pumping - stay strong!

[ZoneBlitz]

nevermind.

[Batman360]

Day 55 June 10, 2009

I've been eating like a hog these last 2 days to the point of throwing up like I should be. I think a plateau comes when a person loses that Eye of the Tiger like Rocky did in Rocky 3. Because he was the champ he stopped taking it seriously and a hungrier Mr.T took the belt from him. I'm squatting 4 plates each side so I'm very happy about that. I've never liked squats before because I always lifted so little but now I look foward to it.

Here's a powerful clip for some motivation - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlbKn8_p3vk

Biceps/Legs

EZ Barbell Curl 110 lbs x 12

Standing Dumbell Curls (each arm) 90 lbs x 9, 95 x 8

Reverse Barbell Curl 100 lbs x 10, 10 110 x 12

Cable Curls 25 lbs x 15, 30 x 15, 35 x 15

Squats 385 lbs x 6, 395 x 6, 405 x 6 (4 plates reached!)

Leg Extensions 180 lbs x 15, 220 x 10, 240 x 6

Dumbell Preacher Curls 40 lbs x 13, 45 x 13, 50 x 13

Two handed Cable Curls 25 lbs x 15, 30 x 12

[K.O]

Batman its very interesting you talk about bringin dbol back in, at the end of the cycle.

I was thinking of trying Winstrol ?

Winstrol brings into the cycle which testosterone enanthate does not have, where as the dbol is similar in terms of sides as well as the mass factor.

With Winstrol, you get the oral version, and also it doesnt aromatize which is great when the cycle is near the end so no problems in terms of blood pressure, acne, bloat etc. Also Winstrol will harden your muscles, and make you more leaner and stronger too, so there is no need to use clenbutorol.

Whats your take on this?

Im thinking of starting my Winstrol in the 9th weeek on the 12 week course and going the extra week by itself, so i dont loose strength straight away.

Obviously it has the same liver toxity like dbol so liver precuations would be needed. It also is perfect to take with testosterone .

[Batman360]

On steroid .com it says Winstrol is used for cutting cycles. Right now I'm only interested in gaining more mass. I don't know whether or not I lost my water weight from the dbol I used previously. I don't feel bloated at all so I'm assuming I did. If I were to get that water weight back, maybe I could get my arms to reach 20.

[mperk]

Hey Guys - I'm doing winny right now in week 12 of a 14 week cycle (test & Deca ). I just finished with the deca today so now it's 2 weeks of Test & winny, 2 weeks of winny & PCT. Done it 50mg a day for 2 weeks. So far it's been great - strength is thru the roof, and i don't feel bloated at all. The dbol is nice tho cause you get visibly bigger altho most of it is water. i do feel like I am getting more sides with the winny - occaisionally feel light headed, the acne is a little worse and the joints have started to hurt.

Not perfect but what is? I have heard avar is sweet to finish up with...

Bat man - awsome weights on the curls dude - That's how you got those guns? Too much - i gotta step up my arm workouts!!!

Great plan for the eating - i bet you'll blow thru this plateau!

[PaHHaN]

Getting huge. I bet with this kinda great progress after the first cycle, I can only imagine what is going to happen next. Great Job!!! Keep us posted.

[Batman360]

Hey Guys - I'm doing winny right now in week 12 of a 14 week cycle (test & Deca ). I just finished with the deca today so now it's 2 weeks of Test & winny, 2 weeks of winny & PCT. Done it 50mg a day for 2 weeks. So far it's been great - strength is thru the roof, and i don't feel bloated at all. The dbol is nice tho cause you get visibly bigger altho most of it is water. i do feel like I am getting more sides with the winny - occaisionally feel light headed, the acne is a little worse and the joints have started to hurt.

Not perfect but what is? I have heard avar is sweet to finish up with...

Bat man - awsome weights on the curls dude - That's how you got those guns? Too much - i gotta step up my arm workouts!!!

Great plan for the eating - i bet you'll blow thru this plateau!

Thanks. Avar is very expensive, like double the price and half the dosage of Dbol. I heard people that use it are people who want very little sides as it's considered the most mild oral steroid . The bicep curls I do are not done with the best form, more like a combination of a hammer curl at the beginning of the lift and a curl at the top of the lift. I guess it can be called a cheat curl but I believe it can help alot for mass and strength. I could do 75 lb curls with perfect form and no struggle but I prefer these heavy curls. 100 lbs next week!!

[Batman360]

Getting huge. I bet with this kinda great progress after the first cycle, I can only imagine what is going to happen next. Great Job!!! Keep us posted.

Thank you. I will be doing another one for sure as sides did not hit me hard this cycle so I'll be doing something more stronger on the next one.

[Batman360]

Day 57 June 12, 2009

Good workout. Deadlifts up another 10 lbs. I tore a good pair of Adidas pants on the knee part doing deadlifts as I brought the bar up and down. I will just sew em up and use these pants for deadlift days. I don't wear shorts on these days because the bar rubs against and burns my shins and knees.

Back

Pull-ups 20, 15, 10

Dead-Lifts 405 lbs x 8 (warm-up), 510 x 8, 520 x 6

Close-Grip Cable Pulldown 250 lbs x 8, 10, 10

Close-grip Cable Rows 210 lbs x 12, 220 x 12, 230 x 12

[bjpennnn]

any more pics buddy?

[Batman360]

When I reach 230 lbs in bodyweight, yes.

[bjpennnn]

beast ha

[Batman360]

Day 58 June 13, 2009
Since I did not post week 7 results, here is week 8 compared to 2 weeks ago, week 6. Except calves, everything is back to it's biggest size and some new PR's. I'm happy with this week. I'm thinking 2 lbs per week isn't so bad anymore.

Week 8 Results
Weight 224 vs 222 week 6 Gained 2 lbs
Waist 34.25 vs 34 week 6 Gained .25
Chest/Back 49.25 vs 49.125 week 6 PR! Gained .125
Shoulders 55.25 vs 55 week 6 PR! Gained .25
Arms 19.25 vs 19.25 week 6 Gained 0
Forearms 14.375 vs 14.25 week 6 PR! Gained .125
Quads/Hamstrings 26.25 vs 26 week 6 Gained .25
Calves 16.75 vs 16.5 week 6 Gained .25

Finally reached my goal today of shoulder pressing 2 plates each side for 8 reps. Strength continues to go up, while at the same time I'm struggling to gain weight at the same rate as the first month of cycle.

Shoulders/Calves

Seated Barbell Shoulder Press 225 lbs x 8, 230 x 6, 235 x 4

Behind Neck Shoulder Press 135 lbs x 8

Upright Rows 185 lbs x 10, 190 x 10, 195 x 10

Front Barbell Raise 70 lbs x 15, 80 x 15, 90 x 15

Calf workout not recorded

Dumbell Side Lateral Raise 45 lbs x 15, 50 x 15, 55 x 15

[bifda]

great progress mate!
2 lb a week is very good, id be happy with that on a 12 week cycle, i cant wait to do my first.
ive had to put the gym on the back burner for now(movin house)just using mates weights at his house, but when im settled and i can afford the cycle and weekly shopping, ill be coming to the darkside.

keep that hunger, stay strong.

[ExtremeDude]

Thanks for keeping your post updated, keep growing!!!!

[Batman360]

Day 60 June 16, 2009

Mixed results today. Flat bench not as strong as it's been. However Incline and Decline Bench went up a good bit. I would love to be able to Incline Bench 3 plates each side for reps. That would be insane and I hope I can do it before my time on cycle runs out. Tricep strength same as last week. Trained with my brother today so I didn't have time to do any more exercises like usual.

Chest/Triceps

Flat Bench Press 335 lbs x 5, 335 x 5, 340 x 4

Incline Bench Press 275 lbs x 6, 285 x 6, 290 x 6

Decline Bench Press 295 lbs x 8, 305 x 8, 315 x 8

Lying Tricep Extensions 165 lbs x 8, 170 x 5

Seated Tricep Extensions 125 lbs x 12, 135 x 10

Dips (bodyweight) x 24

[A50Swole]

ay man, i've been lurking for a while and been following your post.

great job....looking great.

once you cut down after this, you are going to look fantastic.

keep up the good work.

[mperk]

Day 60 June 16, 2009

. Tricep strength same as last week. .

Hey man - you should try 2 weeks of JM Presses for the tris - they are a total fukkin burn! Check em out on You Tube. Bet that will send your tris to a new level!

[Navy-boi-kai]

Just amazing batman. Its really a great cycle and i believe that you will have more to come. also bro why dont u keep a few lil protein bars with you and maybe try adding more protien to your diet.

[streamline89]

hey batman, just interested to know why you didnt/arnt using HCG during your cycle?

[Batman360]

ay man, i've been lurking for a while and been following your post.

great job....looking great.

once you cut down after this, you are going to look fantastic.

keep up the good work.

Thanks for following.

[Batman360]

Hey man - you should try 2 weeks of JM Presses for the tris - they are a total fukkin burn! Check em out on You Tube. Bet that will send your tris to a new level!

Those look like they would burn for sure. I'll add it into my tri excercises for next week. Thanks for the suggestion.

[Batman360]

Just amazing batman. Its really a great cycle and i believe that you will have more to come. also bro why dont u keep a few lil protein bars with you and maybe try adding more protien to your diet.

Thank you. Protein bars are disgusting to me. I don't think there is one brand that is cheap and tastes good. I have always gained better by eating way more carbs than protein. For some people this will cause them to get fat real quick so I don't recommend it for everyone. When my waist gets to an unbearable size where I can't even put on my own socks then I drop the carbs some and raise the protein and I start to lose fat while maintaining muscle.

[Batman360]

hey batman, just interested to know why you didnt/arnt using HCG during your cycle?

I read it wasn't needed for a cycle like mind as it isn't so harsh or that long. I have Nolvadex and Clomid ready for PCT, I was told that was enough to recover.

[Batman360]

Day 61 June 17, 2009

My wrists were killing me today. It hurt so bad I couldn't feel the pump in my biceps until after my workout when my wrist pain clamed down. My first time ever curling 100 lb dumbells. Curling triple digits did affect me mentally and I think that why I only got 5 reps. I got to look up some videos on the pro's and see how they go about training biceps. I think there is a limit to how heavy you can curl, not because of bicep strength but because of the wrist unable to support very heavy weight. I stopped doing heavy bicep curls a few weeks ago because of wrist pain and switched it to dumbells and it's been going good until now. I have some thinking to do on what strategy I'm going to take for biceps.

Biceps

Stand EZ Barbell Curl 110 lbs x 12 (warm - up)

Reverse EZ Barbell Curls 100 lbs x 13, 110 x 13, 110 x 13

Standing Dumbell Curls (each arm) 95 lbs x 8, 100 x 5

One-Handed Cable Curls 30 lbs x 15, 35 x 15, 40 x 15

Spider Curls 70 lbs x 12, 80 x 12

[Navy-boi-kai]

just sick results bro keep up the good work.

[jbm]

you the man...

[xo3et]

Batman i read this log all the time, keep it going dude

[bjpennnn]

ya keep it up man this thread rocks, what are spider curls?

[Batman360]

ya keep it up man this thread rocks, what are spider curls?

It's like a preacher curl except your on the other side so that your biceps are more vertical to the floor rather than at an angle.

Here's a vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U6NgZUg6Zk

[Batman360]

Day 64 June 19, 2009

Didn't do deadlifts today because my back was bothering me alot today so I didn't want to risk injury. Some guy was on the barbell shoulder press so I decided to give dumbells a try to see how I compare in strength to before. I remember only doing 80 lbs for like 4-5 reps. I started out light and worked my way up. After lifting 70 lbs easily I knew I could handle 90's. This is where a problem came up. I tried swinging up the weight up to my shoulders like I did with the 70's but I couldn't. I gave it another 2 failed attempts even if it meant looking like a fool. I was pissed I couldn't get them up but I gave the 80's a try. I swinged them up and barely got them onto my shoulders and I repped them for an easy 12 reps. While I was lifting I noticed bruises developing on my shoulders from having slamed the dumbells into position at the start of the lift. I remembered about some powerhooks for dumbells that are supposed to help with this problem and I think I will order a pair. Even if I did learn the technique to setting up the dumbells, it requires alot of energy that could go toward the lift itself rather than the setup. These are the ones - http://www.fitstep.com/fitness-equip...oks-review.htm . I have reached the limit of weight, which is 250 lbs for cable exercises. I may change the exercises I have reached the limit on.

Back/Shoulders

Pull-ups 20, 15, 10

Dumbell Shoulder Press 50 lbs x 10, 70 x 10, 80 x 12

Close-Grip Cable Pull Down 250lbs x 12, 12, 12

Front Barbell Raise 80 lbs x 15, 90 x 15

Close-Grip Cable Rows 230 lbs x 12, 240 x 12, 250 x 12

Dumbell Side Lateral Raise 55 lbs x 15

[Batman360]

Day 65, June 20

I'm not happy but I'm not dissapointed either. It's definetly getting harder to gain weight. Maybe my dosages are too light for my size or test only isn't enought I don't know. My biggest gains was the first month when I was on Dbol - 19 lbs in that period. My second month I added 5 lbs on test alone. You could argue that in the second month, I dropped water weight from the Dbol and added muscle replaced the water weight. Another round of Dbol is coming after week 10 so I am excited about that. I'm going to be changing my training slightly so I can shock some new growth. Another note I should make. Some fingers in my right had have been falling asleep on me. Like if I'm driving I have to put my hand down after a while to get blood flowing back into my fingers. Two fingers in my right hand are always half asleep all the time. This is completly new to me and just happend about 1 1/2 weeks ago. I thought it would've gone away by now but it hasn't. It may have to do with when I sleep my right hand is against a wall and stays up for some hours so I don't know if this has anything to do with the gear I'm on.

Week 9 Results
Weight 225 vs 224 last week Gained 1 lb
Waist 34.5 vs 34.25 last week Gained .25
Chest/Back 49.25 vs 49.25 last week PR! Gained 0
Shoulders 55.5 vs 55.25 last week PR! Gained .25
Arms 19.25 vs 19.25 last week Gained 0
Forearms 14.375 vs 14.375 last week Gained 0
Quads/Hamstrings 26.25 vs 26.25 last week Gained 0
Calves 16.75 vs 16.75 vs week Gained 0

[blah3d]

Keep us posted on the finger thing that actually has happened to me though not on a cycle of AAS, but has when I go thru a 90day hit at the gym

[mperk]

Hey Batman - day 64 - nice shoulder workout. You ever try shoulder presses seated? I usually put the DBs on my thigh and throw it up partway with my knee- that gives the momentum to get it up to shoulders and helps alot! On the heavy ones I still have trouble lifting it from the shoulder thru the first 3 inches - but at least i get them up there. BTW damn nice that you are still gaining on the shoulders - 55.5!

[wukillabee]

I wouldnt trip too much bout the gains bro, u seem to be gaining just fine. Remember, its only ur first cycle and test is just a base aas, not the biggest size/strength gaining aas and im sure u know dbol is just for raw strength. Now if u where on deca and test and only gained 5lbs, for sure theres a problem. I bet your losing some fat while gaining strength and muscle, thats what happens to me when i cycle and barely doing cardio! Im sure your thinking like most who say theyve gained 20+lbs their first cycle. Well i bet those guys like most have not nearly hit their genetic potential so of course theyre gonna blow up but overall gains in the long run would be limited. U look like u have a great base and probably are pretty dang near ur genetic potential before starting this cycle so id look at each lb of muscle gain a blessing at this point bro. If ur really stressin it then look at ur diet and see if u need to add more. Just by reading though i say ur gains are on par.

[wukillabee]

Remember its the slow and steady gains ur actually gonna keep after pct. Not the 10+lbs in the first 4 weeks from dbol . I bet those 5lbs from test only will be 5lbs quality muscle youll keep after pct bro and whatever else that comes along until u finish the cycle out. Dont get discouraged, your doin great bro, just look at your numbers and lifts. Ur doing something right!

[Batman360]

Hey Batman - day 64 - nice shoulder workout. You ever try shoulder presses seated? I usually put the DBs on my thigh and throw it up partway with my knee- that gives the momentum to get it up to shoulders and helps alot! On the heavy ones I still have trouble lifting it from the shoulder thru the first 3 inches - but at least i get them up there. BTW damn nice that you are still gaining on the shoulders - 55.5!

Those were seated dumbell presses I was doing. Pretty sad poundages for seated I know. If only I could get the heavy ones up! I'm ordering the dumbell hooks, but I'll also work the knee thing to get it up.