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Thread: Batman Returns Test E/Deca/Dbol
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09-23-2009, 09:41 PM #41
double post
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09-23-2009, 09:42 PM #42
ah well in that case, then go for it. I thought you were setting your alarm clock in the middle of the night just to drink a shake.
btw im definitely following this log. im thinking about doing this for my second cycle as well. i hope you dont get deca dick. I hear caber is very good to fight it
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09-24-2009, 02:12 AM #43Anabolic Member
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09-25-2009, 08:34 AM #44
some water from dbol imo.
im following batman,hope you got all your shit this time, want you to do really well and keep most gains mate.
im droping BF at the moment so i can do my first cycle, want it to be perfect so im waiting till everything is in place
stay strong, bif.
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09-26-2009, 10:12 AM #45
Thanks man. I won't underestimate PCT this time. Are you going to do a log here?
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09-26-2009, 10:33 AM #46
Day 10
Friday - September 25, 2008
Arms are now a little over 18.5 at 203 lbs. My arms have never been that big at that weight before. In my previous log my arms were 18.5 at 210 lbs, 7 lbs heavier at week 1. My injury is still trying to hold me back. I decided not to do any lifts that will hurt my injury anymore so I can recover quicker. That means no pull-ups, pulldowns, any kind of barbell or dumbell bench press, and no tricep extensions. Instead I will replace those lifts with other exercises I really never do. Instead of the Bench I will use hammer strength machines. Instead of tricep extensions I'll do close-grip bench press. Instead of pull-ups I'll do Behind the neck pulldowns. It doesn't affect my injury if I don't stretch to far up. Strength is up on everything. I'm suprised how fast my deadlift strength is up just 1 week in. My best at the end of my previous cycle was 520 x 6, only 25 lbs away. I could have got that 3rd set to 8 but I didn't grip properly and it gave out.
Back/Shoulders
Deadlifts 405 x 8, 455 x 8, 475 x 6, 495 x 3
Seated Barbell Shoulder Press 155 x 8, 185 x 8, 205 x 8
Behind Neck Cable Pulldown 100 x 12, 120 x 10, 140 x 10, 160 x 8
Upright Row 155 x 10, 175 x 9, 185 x 6
Dumbell Lateral Raise 30 x 20, 35 x 20, 40 x 20Last edited by Batman360; 09-26-2009 at 01:22 PM.
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09-26-2009, 10:42 AM #47
yea will be doing a log when im ready.
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09-27-2009, 02:49 PM #48
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09-27-2009, 04:43 PM #49
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09-27-2009, 09:15 PM #50New Member
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How much protein was and now your intake last cycle?
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09-27-2009, 09:24 PM #51New Member
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Im not spamming but wat a BEAST. Consider a cut cycle after this one but dont rely on the Roids to do it for you like most ids. Try dieting on like 2,000 cals
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09-27-2009, 10:28 PM #52
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09-27-2009, 10:30 PM #53Originally Posted by methyl;4880***
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09-27-2009, 10:32 PM #54
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09-28-2009, 07:28 PM #55
Day 13
Monday - September 28, 2009
Weighed in at 204 today. Not bad for being 2 days off. I know I said I was going to give up the Barbell Bench Press due to my injury but giving that up is like giving up soda, it can't be done. I started out light with 2 warmup sets and it wasn't as painful as last time as long as I watched my form. The only lift I couldn't do at all without severe pain for some reason was the Decline Bench Press. Strength not bad considering how bad I did last time. I felt I could have gone heavier but because I had to do perfect form I didn't push it. After chest I gave triceps extensions a try but it was a no go, I still can't do that exercise without massive pain so I decided to do Biceps instead. The pump was unbelievable and it motivated to do set after set and push my limits. I gave Barbell curls a try to see how my wrist respond. If I feel pain tommorrow I go back to dumbells.
Chest/Biceps
Barbell Bench Press 275 x 8, 8, 8
Incline Bench Press 245 x 6, 255 x 5, 6
Chest Machine - went slow on the negative and positive and kept the tension through out the lift
EZ Barbell Curl 110 x 14, 120 x 10, 130 x 8, 140 x 8
Reverse Barbell Curl 110 x 10, 120 x 10, 140 x 8, 150 x 8
Seated Dumbell Curls 40 x 10, 45 x 10, 50 x 10
Cable Curls 30 x 20, 40 x 20, 45 x 20
One Handed Spider Curl 30 x 10, 10, 10
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09-29-2009, 09:51 PM #56
Day 14
Tuesday - September 29, 2009
Weight 205 lbs today. Not a lot of increase in leg strength but still a good workout. Gave front squats a try today. I will start adding more weight as I get more comfortable with them.
Quads
Squats 225 lbs x 10, 275 x 10, 300 x 10
Leg Press 360 x 8, 410 x 8, 450 x 8
Leg Extension 130 x 13, 150 x 10, 170 x 8
One Leg Extension 45 x 8, 8, 7
Front Squats 95 x 10, 10Last edited by Batman360; 09-29-2009 at 09:55 PM.
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09-29-2009, 09:59 PM #57New Member
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you really need to work on your bench its way too low for your size
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09-29-2009, 10:01 PM #58New Member
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oh whats your injury?
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09-29-2009, 10:58 PM #59
Yeah I know, strength should go up by the next chest workout, especially if I fully recover from the injury I have. The injury is hard to describe, it's under my left armpit, rear shoulder and left shoulder blade. It's getting better though and I should be good to go by week 3 hopefully.
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09-30-2009, 12:06 AM #60Anabolic Member
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09-30-2009, 07:56 PM #61
Day 15
Wednesday - September 30, 2009
Good workout today. Back was really pumped especially after deadlifts. I could have got 8 on my last set but my wraps unwrapped on me. Strength is moving up good. Pull-ups were not that painful so I did them today but I didn't push it on that exercise.
Back/Shoulders
Pull-up BW x 15, 12, 11
Deadlift 405 x 8, 485 x 8, 500 x 7
Behind Neck Pull-down 110 x 13, 140 x 13
Seated Shoulder Press 205 x 8, 215 x 7, 225 x 7
Behind Neck Pull-down 160 x 12, 180 x 8
Upright Rows 155 x 10, 165 x 10, 175 x 10
Lateral Raise 30 x 20, 35 x 20, 40 x 20
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10-01-2009, 10:39 PM #62
Day 16
Thursday - October 1, 2009
Not bad for week 2. Injury is 90% recovered and once it is there's no more playing around. I started out light on the extensions and that helped me warm up to heavier weight safely. Face has been oily the past 3 days and more red than usual, also very warm. Also aggression has increased and I get mad over stupid little things that I usually don't.
Week 2 Results
Weight 206 vs 202 last week Gained 4 lbs
Waist 32.5 vs 32.25 last week Gained .25
Chest/Back 48 vs 47.5 last week Gained .5
Shoulders 54 vs 53.5 last week Gained .5
Arms 18.5 vs 18.375 last week Gained .125
Forearms 14 vs 13.5 last week Gained .5
Quads/Hamstrings 25 vs 24.25 last week Gained .75
Calves 16.25 vs 16 last week Gained .25
Triceps
Close-Grip Bench Press 165 x 15, 185 x 15, 225 x 9, 235 x 7
Lying Triceps Extensions 100 x 10, 10, 110 x 12, 140 x 10, 160 x 6
Dumbell Kickbacks 30 x 20, 35 x 20, 40 x 20
Standing 2 Handed Dumbell Kickbacks 10 x 12, 15 x 12
Dips BW x 20, BW x 27Last edited by Batman360; 10-02-2009 at 09:06 AM.
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10-02-2009, 12:38 AM #63New Member
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hey batman, just been reading all your posts !! nice job on your first cycle, sorry about the PCT man. How are you finding the 500mg of deca ? actually it prob hasnt kicked in yet, that dbol seems to pump you up real quick yeah ? anyway man ill be following, just make sure you get that PCT down real good this time. Ill be doing it around the same time as you mate. all the best and check out my progress !!
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10-02-2009, 05:12 AM #64New Member
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oops .
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10-02-2009, 07:42 PM #65
Day 17
October 2, 2009 - Friday
Weight is now 209 lbs. Woke up this morning to measure arms to see if my tricep workout from yesterday budged any extra size today. They grew 1/4 inch over night! Arms now 18 3/4. Looking back at my previous cycle I am as big or bigger than I was before at 210 and leaner too with my waist 1 inch smaller. I haven't even started lifting the heavy weight yet due to my injury and I can't wait until I finally can.
Calves/Quads
Standing Calf Raise 220 x 12, 260 x 11, 300 x 8, 320 x 7
Donkey Calf Raise 260 x 12, 300 x 12, 340 x 12, 380 x 12, 400 x 10
Rotary Calf 250 x 15, 290 x 15, 330 x 15
Stiff Leg Deadlift 225 x 12, 315 x 10, 335 x 8
One Leg Curl 30 x 10, 60 x 8
Seated Leg Curl 100 x 10, 140 x 10, 180 x 10, 200 x 10Last edited by Batman360; 10-02-2009 at 08:02 PM.
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10-02-2009, 08:14 PM #66
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10-03-2009, 06:28 PM #67
I read and seen both your threads so far.
I seriously hope you have your diet in check, hate to see all this hard work and effort for nothing.
Can you post your diet, I see alot about reps and sets and daily feeling but no diet.
How many cals are you taking in a day?
How much of your weight is LBM from first cycle to end of it?
How much of your weight now is LBM and also note at the end to see if you gained any LBM.
Because this is your primary goal, LBM
Not trying to rip on you, just trying to help out here.
Nice photos btw.
Also regarding your bloodwork, do it online it will be a few hundred.
Also good to see if your gear is real in the future.Last edited by jackjackson; 10-03-2009 at 06:33 PM.
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10-04-2009, 01:47 AM #68
I don't post my diet because it changes daily and I eat all kinds of things that I'm too lazy to post what I eat everyday. I can tell you that every morning I always drink an oatmeal shake and have done so for years. It fills me up good every morning and doesn't leave me feeling hungry. I'm still not even eating that much yet and trying to get my stomach in the mood to constantly eat. I'm eating about every 4 hours right now. I'm trying to push it to every 3-2 hours so I can really gain lots of weight. I have no doubt my gear is real. Sex drive alone proves it too me because it gets so bad sometimes I can't sleep. I'm not too worried about deca dick right now and I really wouldn't mind if my sex drive fell some as long as it doesn't affect my gains. As for lean bodymass I can't really tell what it is if I can't read my BF. I have a bodyfat tester and will use it to for week 3 to see how it compares to when I started. I know I have added lean bodymass because I am bigger than my previous cycle at the same weight. My arms were a pretty lean 18 in when I cut, I'm hoping to add an inch of lean mass to my arms with this cycle. After this cycle I will get my blood tested for sure and will have the money saved up for when the time arrives.
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10-04-2009, 03:06 AM #69Junior Member
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It seems as if your diet could need a bit of a finishing, although you're aware of it yourself. If you could manage to eat every 2-2½ hour I think you could tweak your gains even more, the easiest way to downscale the time between meals is simply eating smaller portions, but at the same time keeping the kcal/day the same - this ofcourse needs some calculation and such.
Do you have an idea of the macro-aspects of your diet? How big a percentage of the diet consists of protein? And do you get enough healthy fat? I'm really curious
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10-04-2009, 11:01 AM #70
What kind of meats are you eating?
What is your source for Complex Carbs?
Its hard to judge your gains by assumption.
The key to eating 2-3 hours is smaller meals so your body can use it.
Im sure you know all this.
I for one know it is a bitch to get this all down, but after 1 time all you do from there is tweak it here and there.
Batman why don't you post in the diet section so we can help you get this going.
I have a spreadsheet I use and tweak it based on my goals.
Currently im at 4000 cals.
For the BF just use the electronic one for now until you can do better, im sure in chi there is a hydro thing somewhere.
I am very familiar with Chi.Last edited by jackjackson; 10-04-2009 at 11:03 AM.
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10-05-2009, 10:20 PM #71
Day 20
Monday - October 5, 2009
Strength shot up today finally on bench. Injury did not really bother me. I would say I'm at 98% healed right now. I'm still weighing 209 lbs but these numbers are the best they have ever been at this weight. I'm hoping my arms reach 19 inches before I go over 215 lbs, hopefully this week.
Chest/Triceps
Barbell Bench Press 225 x8, 275 x 8, 285 x 8, 295 x 8
Incline Bench Press 255 x 6, 265 x 6, 275 x 5
Decline Bench Press 225 x 8, 275 x 8, 285 x 8, 295 x 8
Lying Triceps Extensions 120 x 12, 140 x 10, 160 x 9, 170 x 7
Vertical Chest Machine 170 x 15, 185 x 10, 200 x 9
Dips BW x 22
Seated Triceps Extensions 120 x 10, 130 x 9
Seated One Handed Triceps Extensions 30 x 15, 30 x 15, 35 x 12, 40 x 10
Dips BW x 22
Two Hand Cable Extension 100 x 20, 130 x 20, 150 x 20
Standing Dumbell Extensions 10 x 20, 15 x 25, 25 x 15Last edited by Batman360; 10-05-2009 at 10:50 PM.
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10-05-2009, 10:44 PM #72
Diet
I'll admit my diet is not very organized and can vary on percentages of what I eat. On days I train I eat mostly carbs so I have the fuel to workout. On days I don't train I eat mostly protein because I won't need carbs since I don't train that day and to limit fat gain. Here is how my diet looks like on a training day.
Training day
Meal 1 - Breakfast 90% carbs 10% protein
Meal 2 - Before workout 80 % carbs 20% protein
Meal 3 - After workout + protein shake after 50% protein 50% carbs
Meal 4 - Before sleep 80% protein 20% carbs
Non-training day
Meal 1 - Breakfast 90% carbs 10% protein
Meal 2 - 20 % carbs 80% protein
Meal 3 - 80% protein 20% carbs
Meal 4 - Before sleep 80% protein 20% carbs
I have already posted that my main carb sources are oatmeal and rice. For protein I eat all kinds of meat. Like Sylvester Stallone says, eat anything with a face! My favorite source for fats are avocados. I eat those all the time with my food. I also have ***** 3,6,9 capsules. Thanks for the suggestion of eating less portions so I get more meals.
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10-06-2009, 05:47 PM #73
I don't have much time right now, but thanks for posting.
If you can get 6 meals in.
Unless each meal is 1000 cals, thats alot to take in 1 sitting.
Try to drop it down a bit and spread it to at least 6 so your body can efficiently use the whole meal.
If you want I can post mine to give you an idea.Last edited by jackjackson; 10-06-2009 at 05:50 PM.
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10-06-2009, 10:13 PM #74
I can see me taking 5 meals during the day if I wake up 3 hours earlier. I also forgot to add the shake I take in the middle of the night if that counts as a meal, bringing the total to 6. jackjackson, go ahead and post your diet, a person can never to be too big to learn lol. I went to the gym today but just wasn't feeling it today. My shoulder joints were hurting and I didn't feel very strong so I'm not even posting the terrible workout I did today. I also did bad because I was driving in the car too long before my workout. My lower back starts to hurt really bad if I'm in a car seat for more than 10 min. When I attempted to do deadlifts with 505 lbs I just started shaking like crazy and only got it up 3 times. That just killed it for me and I wasn't in the mood to workout seriously anymore. Next time I train back I will take the bus on the way instead. The other day at work a lady I work with asked me if I lift weights or if I take steroids . I said I lift weights. She thinks people who take steroids just drink pills and get bigger automatically. I told her it doesn't work that way, but I didn't argue about it or it would seem like I really was taking them, lol. Theres a lot of uneducated people out there about the subject and I see now why a lot of people deny using because other ignorant people don't know about it or they think they know what they dont. Instead of giving you any credit they just say oh he just looks like that because he drinks pills.
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10-07-2009, 12:18 AM #75New Member
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lift weights or take steroids
wow thats the retard of the year
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10-07-2009, 10:09 PM #76
Day 22
Wednesday - October 7, 2009
I had trouble deciding what I wanted to workout today. I really wanted to do biceps because I'm 1/8 of an inch away from 19 and one more arm workout would get me there. However I decided on calves because they need more attention and I'm not gonna neglect them anymore. My shoulder joints could use a rest anyways. I had a very good workout and strength went up. I was so into my workout I passed my parking time of 2 hours and had to pay $18. Not that pissed because like I said the workout was great.
Calves/Hamstrings
Standing Calf Raise 280 x 13, 320 x 12, 340 x 9, 360 x 8
Seated Calf 70 x 13, 90 x 13, 135 x 15
Donkey Calf Raise 300 x 16, 360 x 12, 400 x 15, 400 x 10
Stiff Leg Deadlift 225 x 12, 345 x 10, 355 x 10
Rotary Calf 310 x 15, 350 x 15, 370 x 15
Reverse Leg Curl 170 x 12, 190 x 12, 200 x 12
Seated Leg Curl 180 x 10, 220 x 10, 240 x 10
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10-09-2009, 12:16 AM #77
Day 23
October 9, 2009 - Thursday
Very happy with my results this week. I knew the numbers were gonna fly up after taking my shirt off to take measurements. I could see muscles on my back I've never seen before. The changes are that drastic that I did not recognize my own body. New veins are becoming visible as well. 18 lbs gained so far in 3 weeks. I'm aiming to be 220 lbs by week 4. Arms should be over 19 by then for sure at that weight.
Week 3 Results
Weight 212 vs 206 last week Gained 6 lbs
Waist 33 vs 32.5 last week Gained .5
Chest/Back 49 vs 48 last week Gained 1
Shoulders 55 vs 54 last week Gained 1
Arms 18.875 vs 18.5 last week Gained .375
Forearms 14.125 vs 14 last week Gained .125
Quads/Hamstrings 25.5 vs 25 last week Gained .5
Calves 16.625 vs 16.25 last week Gained .375
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10-09-2009, 10:09 AM #78Junior Member
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Nice progress so far. Have you been looking at how to implement an extra - or two - meals throughout the day? Imagine how that would improve your gains even more
Glad to see it's working out for you.
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10-09-2009, 11:46 AM #79
nice progress, you ever try 1 rep max on bench?
ive started doing it every time i do chest.
ill work upto to it by pyramid 15,10,7,4,1 ive found its helped with strenght
moreso, ill finish with 225 to faliure 20ish.
give it a shot one bench day, might spur more growth.
stay strong, bif.
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