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    Nah, I got that when I was still natural. As you can see the color has faded a bit but still visible. I had some on my biceps that have almost completly faded but still visible at some angles. My worse stretch marks I got when I went from 165 to 214 in a period of 7 months when I was still natural. Strange that now that I use gear I havent gotten any bad stretch marks like I did before. Maybe because I don't gain fat as quickly as I used to when on my natural bulks.

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    you look Massive Batman, keep it up

    btw i just finished watching all the rocky movies again, kinda funny seeing the old ones again, man he can take some punshes. story line is pretty much the same in every movie, kinda simple.hehe. but the fights make up for it. rocky kicks ass
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    Huge.

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    looking thick man. nice job.

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    Looking very think bman

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    Day 56

    Monday - November 9, 2009

    Thanks guys for the comments. I'm still only half way through, a long journey still ahead. I feel so beat down right now that I feel like stopping already. I feel so tired and stressed out all the time and having a hard time sleeping, and I miss feeling normal. My diet has sucked so far this week so I'm suprised that I had any strength gain at all on bench this week. I finally reached my goal of Incline benching 3 plates each side for reps.

    Barbell Bench Press 225 x 10, 275 x 8, 325 x 6, 335 x 6, 345 x 3

    Incline Bench Press 300 x 6, 305 x 6, 315 x 6

    Decline Bench Press 315 x 8, 325 x 6

    Vertical Chest Machine (elston gym) 260 x 15, 300 x 14,

    Standing Dumbell Curls 50 x 10, 60 x 10, 70 x 10

    Reverse EZ Barbell Curl 190 x 8, 200 x 7

    Incline Seated Dumbell Curls 45's x 10, 45's x 10

    Forearm Curls 40 x 25, 25

    Cable Curls (elston gym) 30 x 20, 35 x 20

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    Maybe time to deload a bit, or take a small break from lifting, considering how you feel.

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    He's right Batman, slow down a little. Your body has been through an enormous transformation. If your body is speaking, listen to it my man. Maybe its just the diet too? You should try cleaning it up and staying off the dirty bulk foods and see how ya feel. Just my .02

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    Good progress so far. But wow, that's quite a lofty goal you set!

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    Day 60

    Friday - November 13, 2009

    The new straps I ordered to replace my other ones did not do i for me. I bought two pairs, one made of leather and another one made with non-slip rubber. They just don't compare to my Versa Grips. So I decided to give them another go on the deadlifts. Amazingly they did not unstrap on me this time like they have on my last 3 back workouts. I am going to customize them a bit so they are 100% unstrap proof. I did very good on deadlifs for not having done them right for the last 3 weeks. In fact 520 x 8 is a new record for me. I even felt I could have added another 10-20 lbs and still got 8 reps. We'll see next week. I have decided to not to ever admit to steroid use outside the internet. There are some real idiots out there when it comes to this stuff and the ones who usually ask are the biggest idiots who don't know anything. This guy at the gym walks to me and asks me is that natural or do you take vitamins? So I'm thinking by vitamins he must mean steroids because obviously vitamins can't a person big. So I say yeah lots of vitamins. He's like, yeah I know a guy who take them and they can get expensive like $200. A few minutes later he walks up to me again for training advice. He starts talking about the vitamins again and ask if they really help with strength. I tell him yes they really helped me bring my strength up very quickly in a short time. He asks for my recommendation and what vitamins he can get from the front counter at the gym. Am I'm thinking WTF? All this this time we are talking about two different things. I ask him what vitamins are we talking about? This guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. So I just try to end the conversation so he can stop wasting my time and I can get back to working out. I'm like yeah just take protein that will build you up really fast.

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    Deadlifts 455 x 8, 500 x 8, 520 x 8

    Barbell Shoulder Press 205 x 8, 245 x 7, 255 x 4

    Behind Neck Wide-Grip Cable Pulldown 200 x 12, 220 x 12, 240 x 12

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    Haha, nice story
    What a fool

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    Nanananananananan batman!!!!!!!!!

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    Day 63

    Monday - November 16, 2009

    I had a really rough week last week so yeah I lost some size so I didn't post week results because it will break my heart. My goal this week is to regain that size and hopefully add a little more. Mixed results this workout, some things stronger while others not. Considering my size lose though I did very good. Incline bench is very strong, almost as strong as my flat bench which is weird. Triceps not as strong today, but probably because I trained chest first instead of on it's own like other times. Didn't have time to train triceps last week so Ifigured I would combo with chest. Elbows were really hurting on triceps workout probably from so much time off. After my workout my chest and triceps were cramping like crazy. Any little movement and I would cramp. This is the first time ever my triceps have cramped. I got a bruise or a vein or something on my right tricep after a cramp, first time that has ever happened. Other bodyparts that have never cramped on me before ever but just started this week are triceps, hamstrings, back, and forearms. What a coincidence it all happened this week. I think it may be the deca causing this as this has never happened as often as it did on my last cycle. I'm a cramping machine! It hurts but I like it because I know killed that bodypart with my training.

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    Barbell Bench Press 225 x 10, 275 x 8, 330 x 6, 340 x 5, 345 x 4

    Incline Bench Press 315 x 6, 330 x 5, 335 x 5

    Decline Bench Press 320 x 8

    Vertical Chest Machine 245 x 14, 12, 10

    Lying Triceps Extensions 150 x 10, 190 x 8, 200 x 4 + 4 Close-grip benches

    Overhead Triceps Barbell Extension 140 x 12, 160 x 8, 170 x 5

    Overhead One-handed Dumbell Extensions 45 x 12, 50 x 10, 55 x 9

    Dumbell Kickbacks 40 x 20, 45 x 20

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    That's some good weight on the incline.i wish I was doing that much weight on the flat bench,but I think u should do more sets for the decline instead of1set e.g. 225lbsx10repsx10reps,so u can realty etch the bottom of your chest more.

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    good to see your doing well, dont be too hard on yourself tho, sometimes its 2 steps forward and one step back.

    to me it seems you need to focus on your diet and recovery mate.
    how many hours do you work?
    how many hours sleep do you get?
    how many calories daily?
    pro/carb/fats daily?

    your training is very good, keep with it mate, keep focus and drive as many are following and willing you on.

    fyi, arms at 18.7 inches, im trying lol

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    It's been 8 days Batman. What's the word?!

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    Hey guys I'm still alive lol. These 2 weeks were really rough and I'm trying really hard to come back. I had a terrible night last night as the post injection of my quad was killing me all night. I hope it's nothing serious but I've never had pain like that after an injection before. No signs of anything wrong other than the pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyrv View Post
    That's some good weight on the incline.i wish I was doing that much weight on the flat bench,but I think u should do more sets for the decline instead of1set e.g. 225lbsx10repsx10reps,so u can realty etch the bottom of your chest more.
    Thanks. By the time I get to decline my chest is pretty worn out. I will do as many sets as I think is safe because I have no spotter. I came pretty close one time to not getting the bar all the way up and that would have been my death as there is no where to land the bar other than my neck or head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bifda View Post
    good to see your doing well, dont be too hard on yourself tho, sometimes its 2 steps forward and one step back.

    to me it seems you need to focus on your diet and recovery mate.
    how many hours do you work?
    how many hours sleep do you get?
    how many calories daily?
    pro/carb/fats daily?

    your training is very good, keep with it mate, keep focus and drive as many are following and willing you on.

    fyi, arms at 18.7 inches, im trying lol

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    I work part-time so hours change week to week. Probably 18-30. Obviously the weeks I get less hours are the ones I gain more size. I sleep or try to lol, 8-10 so I can't complain about that. I wish I could sleep without the increased sex drive lol, that would be very helpful. It's too much. I don't count my calories, just the food on my plate. About 1lb and 3 oz of food on my plate each meal of good food. 18.7 inches is very good. Very few people have that arm size and that a great achievment you can be proud of.

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    hey batman, how is your libido? are you still getting hard ons pretty easily?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    hey batman, how is your libido? are you still getting hard ons pretty easily?
    Yep libido is high. No sign of deca dick I hear about.

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    Just a quick update. Haven't really had time to post and really unmotivted to also because I'm getting mixed results. Some days I'm not as strong and other days I'm breaking records. Today I Deadlifted 535 x 7 so that's a record for me but on Monday my bench was weak. I lost some size but I think I figured out what it is because my diet is good. It's my water intake. That along with coming off dbol made me lose lot's of water. I started taking dbol again 2 days ago and I feel my body more pumped again. Around 220 lbs right now but I'm determined to hit 240 lbs and have arms finally reach 20. It's got to happen no matter what this cycle.

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    Hey Batman, didnt really feel like searching through this long ass thread but what does you diet look like? Maybe a days sample including macros? How do you know when to increase your total intake? Thanks man.

    Hope you overcome this obstacle in your cycle bro.

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    I don't get very technical with my diet. I used to when I first started and it never really worked for me. My rules for gaining are simple. Eat what you like and lot's of it. Keep eating your meal till you feel like your gonna puke. And make sure to never let yourself get hungry. Just a note that the dbol looks like it's working, my lifts are going back up and size too. Close-grip benched 300 lbs for 5 reps yesterday, only 15lbs from 3 plates each side.

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    mate improving your diet what you need to focus on imho.
    dont want to put you down ,but im natty and i got upto 3 plates close grip for 10 reps in 8 weeks, having never done it before.
    what im saying is diet WILL improve everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bifda View Post
    mate improving your diet what you need to focus on imho.
    dont want to put you down ,but im natty and i got upto 3 plates close grip for 10 reps in 8 weeks, having never done it before.
    what im saying is diet WILL improve everything.
    Exactly. Diet is everything if you don't adjust you will most likely lose everything like your first time.

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    Batman great thread!!!! I can't wait to start my cycle in March!!!! You look really good and I hope you keep all your gains!!! Great job!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman360 View Post
    Just a quick update. Haven't really had time to post and really unmotivted to also because I'm getting mixed results. Some days I'm not as strong and other days I'm breaking records. Today I Deadlifted 535 x 7 so that's a record for me but on Monday my bench was weak. I lost some size but I think I figured out what it is because my diet is good. It's my water intake. That along with coming off dbol made me lose lot's of water. I started taking dbol again 2 days ago and I feel my body more pumped again. Around 220 lbs right now but I'm determined to hit 240 lbs and have arms finally reach 20. It's got to happen no matter what this cycle.
    Hey Batman,
    How long have you been on the dbol ? I don't understand why you feel the need to jump right back on the orals just because you lost a bit of water weight and strength when the injectables should be kicking in soon if they haven't already. You should be more concerned with your long-term health rather than gaining a small fraction of an inch from your arms. I understand that you have the goal of attaining 20 inch arms, but with the gear you are on alot of your week to week gains at this point are simply bloat rather than lean body mass. I'm not trying to be critical, but you started this cycle shortly after your first, and you are saying you will get 20 inch arms no matter what. That is a bit of a dangerous attitude to take. Remember, quality growth takes time, no matter what drugs we put into ourselves. Pace yourself and cycle responsibly so you can stay in the game as long as possible and eventually build 20 inches of lean muscle on those arms. Best of luck to you. Be safe

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    im going to do this exact cycle in february, minus the dbol . I look forward to it very much as im 5'9 1/2 191 after my last cycle of test only

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjax03 View Post
    Hey Batman,
    How long have you been on the dbol? I don't understand why you feel the need to jump right back on the orals just because you lost a bit of water weight and strength when the injectables should be kicking in soon if they haven't already. You should be more concerned with your long-term health rather than gaining a small fraction of an inch from your arms. I understand that you have the goal of attaining 20 inch arms, but with the gear you are on alot of your week to week gains at this point are simply bloat rather than lean body mass. I'm not trying to be critical, but you started this cycle shortly after your first, and you are saying you will get 20 inch arms no matter what. That is a bit of a dangerous attitude to take. Remember, quality growth takes time, no matter what drugs we put into ourselves. Pace yourself and cycle responsibly so you can stay in the game as long as possible and eventually build 20 inches of lean muscle on those arms. Best of luck to you. Be safe
    x2 very good advice and welcome to the site

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjax03 View Post
    Hey Batman,
    How long have you been on the dbol? I don't understand why you feel the need to jump right back on the orals just because you lost a bit of water weight and strength when the injectables should be kicking in soon if they haven't already. You should be more concerned with your long-term health rather than gaining a small fraction of an inch from your arms. I understand that you have the goal of attaining 20 inch arms, but with the gear you are on alot of your week to week gains at this point are simply bloat rather than lean body mass. I'm not trying to be critical, but you started this cycle shortly after your first, and you are saying you will get 20 inch arms no matter what. That is a bit of a dangerous attitude to take. Remember, quality growth takes time, no matter what drugs we put into ourselves. Pace yourself and cycle responsibly so you can stay in the game as long as possible and eventually build 20 inches of lean muscle on those arms. Best of luck to you. Be safe
    x3
    I followed the first log and also this one..
    With that said: I truly do understand how one can become easily frustrated and disappointed when things are not working out as you had hoped.
    However you are getting some SOLID advice here.
    Exercise patience! This process is a marathon not a sprint.

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    I appreciate the concern guys and I do care about my health, but I also want to get huge! It's hard to find a balance to make both things work. I would be lieing if I said I care about my health more though or why else would I be using steroids ? I made a choice to sacrifice health for the desire to be big. Top bodybuilders for sure sacrifice their health. I don't know yet if I want to take it to that level because I do care about other things like family. The dbol I'll only take for 4 weeks more and that's it. I made the choice to take dbol again because I feel my body can take it. I don't drink and I don't smoke so I can do a little extra than most people who do. I have had no stomach problems and drinking tons of water and only have 2 more weeks of dbol to go. I will miss it, I love what this stuff can do. I'm weighed myself today at 226 lbs, 14 lbs away from reaching my goal. Strength is good too, deadlifted 545 lbs x 8. I'm happy things are coming along again, I almost lost hope of ever wanting to do another cycle again.

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    Glad to hear things are coming along and you're doing well.

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    im gonna stay tuned, looks good dude , goodluck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman360 View Post
    I appreciate the concern guys and I do care about my health, but I also want to get huge! It's hard to find a balance to make both things work. I would be lieing if I said I care about my health more though or why else would I be using steroids? I made a choice to sacrifice health for the desire to be big. Top bodybuilders for sure sacrifice their health. I don't know yet if I want to take it to that level because I do care about other things like family. The dbol I'll only take for 4 weeks more and that's it. I made the choice to take dbol again because I feel my body can take it. I don't drink and I don't smoke so I can do a little extra than most people who do. I have had no stomach problems and drinking tons of water and only have 2 more weeks of dbol to go. I will miss it, I love what this stuff can do. I'm weighed myself today at 226 lbs, 14 lbs away from reaching my goal. Strength is good too, deadlifted 545 lbs x 8. I'm happy things are coming along again, I almost lost hope of ever wanting to do another cycle again.
    Ok, just watch out for signs of liver illness, yellow eyes/skin, dark urine, abdominal discomfort, nausea etc. Don't get too discouraged by your setbacks. Even on cycle, not every week will be a stellar progression. Glad to hear things are looking up again.

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    Weighed myself at 230 lbs today! Only 10 more lbs and I'm off this cycle. I know it sounds crazy but I can't wait to get off and feel normal again. All I think about is sex 24/7 even while I sleep. I feel like a perverted animal or something whose only purpose in life is to have sex. I can only take it for so long. Lifts are good, deadlift 555 lbs x 8 today. I can feel the difference in my size. I can barely fit through some doorways, lol. I have trouble sleeping because the only position I can sleep is facing upward. I can't sleep facing down or sideways or my arms fall asleep. My bed feels alot smaller now, if I roll to the side I fall off. New veins are coming in my triceps and outer forearms which I think look pretty cool. The last 3 days I have been feeling light headed. For example on bench day everytime I layed back on the bench I feel the room is spinning or something, really weird, probably not a good sign. The journey is almost over though and I hope I reach my goal by then.

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    lookin jacked man.
    and i know you dont really care, but you should really slow down dude.. any short cuts you take are gonna hurt you in the long rung, especially running gear (esp orals) in excess just to reach a little milestone you decided to set for the month. take your time. have patience. dizzyness can be more then not drinking enough water. your body could be telling you something very important.
    regardless, you look awesome man. good luck with the rest of your cycle.
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    Just a suggestion, but don't you think you can push your triceps harder if you don't do them on chest day? I mean you've already pre-exhausted them from benching. Just my 2 cents, considering that ur trying very hard to hit 20 inches on arms

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetank View Post
    lookin jacked man.
    and i know you dont really care, but you should really slow down dude.. any short cuts you take are gonna hurt you in the long rung, especially running gear (esp orals) in excess just to reach a little milestone you decided to set for the month. take your time. have patience. dizzyness can be more then not drinking enough water. your body could be telling you something very important.
    regardless, you look awesome man. good luck with the rest of your cycle.
    peace
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    Dizzyness is gone now, I think it was cause I was sick or overstressed, not really sure. I know I'm taking a risk but I really want to reach this goal before my cycle is over. I can not feel good about this cycle if I don't and I invested a lot of money, I want it to be for something. You look pretty big in your avatar so you must know what your talking about. How big are your arms?! If you have any tips I would apprectiate it.

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