Round numero 2 (D-Bol and Test Enen)

[< <Samson> >]

Well, I am still alive.

Been a rough few weeks here at the palace. Finals, caught a stomach bug for 3 days, now just getting over it. All of this holiday Christmas stuff and I still need to be on the grind every day. Been way busy, but really it is a good change from just sitting and home and just going to the gym.


GF says, I look straight sauced. I say I need more and it's not working. . . lol

It is, but I am retaining water like the fvcking Titanic. I still eat as clean as possible but my sodium is still over 1k per day.

Still on my Ai, but I am just swelling up. Strength is up nicely though for sure. Hitting the easy curl with like 130+ pounds today.

Here's a current pic. Feeling a little too bloated.

[sw0llen]

Your come'n along nice, keep kill'n it brah!

[< <Samson> >]

Strength is insane!

First time I hit triple plates on squats. 315 pounds x4 and 225x10


This is amazing, I never hit that kind of weight before. 315 does feel heavy for sure though.

[Armykid93]

Strength is insane!

First time I hit triple plates on squats. 315 pounds x4 and 225x10

This is amazing, I never hit that kind of weight before. 315 does feel heavy for sure though.

Way to go brotha. Keep at it. Sounds like your doing things right if your setting such great results. This thread is awesome.

[< <Samson> >]

Thanks a lot bro!

Yeah, but the other issue now is that I am sinking deeper into juicing. I feel like I "must" get bigger. The stomach is what stops me. I eat and I eat then eat some more. Then count it all up and it's barely enough.

We'll see, seeing great results just makes me want more.

[>Good Luck<]

Thanks a lot bro!

Yeah, but the other issue now is that I am sinking deeper into juicing. I feel like I "must" get bigger. The stomach is what stops me. I eat and I eat then eat some more. Then count it all up and it's barely enough.

We'll see, seeing great results just makes me want more.

Bigorexia my friend

[< <Samson> >]

Feeling a little sick like, but nothing major. Went to the Gym and did chest. Strength is nuts, went up so much. Hit 90's on the incline, square too. < I have never gone over 85. This was after hitting the smith press for 6 sets of flat bench.

Still keeping on water, I can tell for sure. I gained exactly 15 pounds so far as of this morning. My diet is damn clean, but not 100%. I'll have a diet energy drink here and there. And fill in cheat meal calories with Jimmy Johns. This is the most nutritionally correct go out food I have found.

Out of the 15 pounds I have gained. No more than 2-3 pounds is muscle for sure. 1-2 pounds of fat possibly and the rest is water. I am taking my Ai faithfully and I still have mad bloat. Still taking the D-Bol for maybe another week.

[>Good Luck<]

Feeling a little sick like, but nothing major. Went to the Gym and did chest. Strength is nuts, went up so much. Hit 90's on the incline, square too. < I have never gone over 85. This was after hitting the smith press for 6 sets of flat bench.

Still keeping on water, I can tell for sure. I gained exactly 15 pounds so far as of this morning. My diet is damn clean, but not 100%. I'll have a diet energy drink here and there. And fill in cheat meal calories with Jimmy Johns. This is the most nutritionally correct go out food I have found.

Out of the 15 pounds I have gained. No more than 2-3 pounds is muscle for sure. 1-2 pounds of fat possibly and the rest is water. I am taking my Ai faithfully and I still have mad bloat. Still taking the D-Bol for maybe another week.

Keep working hard bro, youre doing good

[ElectraMaddox]

You look really good! Keep it up!

[wmaousley]

Some are going to disagree with me but..........

Save the dbol my man, 20mg for 4 weeks? Do you not have anymore? Can you not take 40-60mg per day for 6 weeks?

Very low dbol dose and a great test dose, just doesnt make any sense to me.

[>Good Luck<]

Some are going to disagree with me but..........

Save the dbol my man, 20mg for 4 weeks? Do you not have anymore? Can you not take 40-60mg per day for 6 weeks?

Very low dbol dose and a great test dose, just doesnt make any sense to me.

I think he's testing out oral gear for the first time... I think he's safe and leaning

[< <Samson> >]

Orals are not my thing at all. Why use this shit when you can inject?

I got the D-Bol for free. So why not use the shit. . . . .

It does work for sure, but why add the extra added sides?

[ChipChelios]

Subbed!

I'm starting the same cycle test-e 12 weeks, and d-Bol for 5

Super excited!!

[< <Samson> >]

I am still here, just not as much.

Staring into week 6, I dunno - I don't feel as juiced as I did on my 1st run. Strength seems to be up, but my weight is not budging. Possibly my diet, but I dunno.

So, I went in and got my free test test done. Should be in next week right after Christmas.

If the gear is bunk I am switching to some fire I already have on hand.

[>Good Luck<]

I am still here, just not as much.

Staring into week 6, I dunno - I don't feel as juiced as I did on my 1st run. Strength seems to be up, but my weight is not budging. Possibly my diet, but I dunno.

So, I went in and got my free test test done. Should be in next week right after Christmas.

If the gear is bunk I am switching to some fire I already have on hand.

Nothing feels like your first time. Every drug, every buzz, every feeling... Sex, food, anything really. There will always be that feeling of "it's not quite like I remember"


Up your Cals by 300 and I bet you'll gain

[< <Samson> >]

I know it, but I just don't feel the pumps or anything really.

My bawls are no where near as shrunk up as they were on my first run. That's why I just said fvck it, check it and know for sure.

[ElectraMaddox]

You look so good!!

[>Good Luck<]

I know it, but I just don't feel the pumps or anything really.

My bawls are no where near as shrunk up as they were on my first run. That's why I just said fvck it, check it and know for sure.

Is it safe to say you've stopped taking the dbol ?

[< <Samson> >]

You look so good!!

You are gonna make me blush

The last progress pic is A+ for sure. You lost a lot of midsection and look leaner for sure!

Is it safe to say you've stopped taking the dbol?

Yup, no more D-Bol. I dunno, it really is tough for me to judge. I am gaining solid weight.

This A.M. Was: 216 Lbs. 35" Waist Bi's are right under 17.5" . . . . .Feeling pretty good, but just not like the last run. I just felt pumped 90% of the day with mad pumps. This time, not that much at all. And I am on 30% more sauce than last time.

[losieloos]

Good update keep us inform

[< <Samson> >]

Well, I am still waiting on my results.

But, I kind of feel it work. At least my strength is straight through the roof.

Benched today, threw up 245 like it was 185. I was just plain surprised, just kept up pushing more.


Measurements today:

Waist, barely under 36< the apple pie did it
Bi's Cold - 17.5"(barely, barely under)
Few hours after the gym - 17.75"

[Stosh_112]

How many weeks in are u now?

[< <Samson> >]

I am going by days. Started on the 16th of last month.

Stopping on the 16th of January, bridging over for 2-3 weeks then getting back on. Haven't decided on the gear choice yet. Maybe prop and very low tren , or possibly sustanon by itself.

I will be running the 2nd cycle as a cuter for this one.

[< <Samson> >]

Well, the shit is real and I am feeling it in full effect now. It took over 4 weeks, I am on week 5-6 and it kicked in just maybe 5 days ago. But, now that I know it's legit after getting this blood work. Good shit, pumps for days.

Shoulders today: 90 pound dumbbells x4. That was a lot, that shit felt heavy.

Getting bigger slowly for sure. 219 as of this A.M. Trying to watch my fat, but I still seem fatter. I think it's water mainly from what I can tell.

[OnTheSauce]

I am going by days. Started on the 16th of last month.

Stopping on the 16th of January, bridging over for 2-3 weeks then getting back on. Haven't decided on the gear choice yet. Maybe prop and very low tren , or possibly sustanon by itself.

I will be running the 2nd cycle as a cuter for this one.

Id cruise longer than that. It will take 2 weeks just for levels to drop down. Id say cruise for 6 weeks total.

[< <Samson> >]

Id cruise longer than that. It will take 2 weeks just for levels to drop down. Id say cruise for 6 weeks total.

Maybe, haven't decided yet. Getting tougher to gain weight without eating crap and just getting fat. I can only eat so much chicken and tuna. I'm getting close to where I want to be in my weight. We'll see. . . .

[OnTheSauce]

Maybe, haven't decided yet. Getting tougher to gain weight without eating crap and just getting fat. I can only eat so much chicken and tuna. I'm getting close to where I want to be in my weight. We'll see. . . .

Myostatin has to return to normal. Not much choice brother, 2 weeks isn't enough

[>Good Luck<]

Myostatin has to return to normal. Not much choice brother, 2 weeks isn't enough

How come Ronnie Rowland teaches 8 on 2 off?

[OnTheSauce]

with short ester prop, maybe yeah. With test e it will take 2 weeks just for your levels to lower because of the long ester.

[< <Samson> >]

with short ester prop, maybe yeah. With test e it will take 2 weeks just for your levels to lower because of the long ester.

I was thinking about that. . . What I'm thinking so far: Run this cycle until I hit 225-230 then take a month off. Then start up a 60 day cycle of prop and Tren at a real low dose(i.e. 300mg per week of TA and 300mg a week of prop). A prop and Var 60 day run sounds great too though.

[>Good Luck<]

I was thinking about that. . . What I'm thinking so far: Run this cycle until I hit 225-230 then take a month off. Then start up a 60 day cycle of prop and Tren at a real low dose(i.e. 300mg per week of TA and 300mg a week of prop). A prop and Var 60 day run sounds great too though.

Go read ronnies thread! He still recommends 8 on 2 off with long esters. I am sure of this because I have read it many many times

[< <Samson> >]

Just back in from the gym. . . . Strength is nothing short of amazing. Hit chest today. 95Lbs x6 on straight bench dumbells then I decided to get a little crazy and go for the big boys. Hit 105 x4 < That to me is nothing short of amazing. Since I am they guy who barely pushed 50's only about 6 years ago.


Hit inclines at 90 per arm x6 then 80's x8 on 3 sets.


Size isn't bad, 219.5 pounds as of this A.M. bi's are right @ 18" after my full chest and tri workout. Waist I am not very impressed with, 36+" < seems like bloat. Since I don't see an overall fat gain, just my midsection seems fuller and bloated.

Trying my best on the diet. The hardest thing to do really, I need tons of clean quality food. The more filler, the more garbage weight I gain along with the LBM I am trying so hard to get.


Almost at the 60 day mark on this cycle, we'll see how I feel in a few weeks.

[Stosh_112]

Keep up the good work bro.

[< <Samson> >]

Here are some pics, all are taken within the last week.






Nothing too crazy, but progress for sure.

[>Good Luck<]

Here are some pics, all are taken within the last week.

Nothing too crazy, but progress for sure.

Looking swole bro! And the 10 iPhone looks dope too lol. You sending phones to Africa or something? LoL

[< <Samson> >]

Looking swole bro! And the 10 iPhone looks dope too lol. You sending phones to Africa or something? LoL

Thanks yo,

I am starting to feel swoled up for sure.

Something like that.

[< <Samson> >]

221 as of this morning. . . . .

Shot a bit today: .4cc's of the GenSys 350 and 1cc of Galenika Test Enan. Total of 400mg.

I will drop my dosage down after this to 500-600mg of Test Enan. Then run it until I hit 230 pounds, followed by a cruise on test enan of 200mg a week.

After that get onto a run of prop and . . . . (I am thinking a very low dosage of Tren Ace). The sides don't sound so swell, but I don't want to run another oral again. Or it would be Var and Prop. Which it still might be, but I am leaning more towards the Tren. I would run the TA at 75mg EOD and the prop right under that.

[Buster Brown]

The prop/tren a will be alot of fun. I have always done tes cycles, tes/deca , tes/oral but will probably never go back to them now that I am running Tes/Tren. That bloat you speak of (assuming your diet is good) will be a thing of the past. Good luck!

[< <Samson> >]

Did chest again today. Hit triple plates for the first time on the smith press. Barely pushed it 3x.

Carrying on in my plan but trying my best not to make myself too fat while bulking.

[Stosh_112]

If ur gonna hit the tren after ur cruise u should have no worries with fat or bloat.