clock's first cycle: tren (+ prop)

[clockworks]

day 47, dear diary...

.8cc test prop + .8cc tren into right quad
20mg liquid-tamoxifen

no workout. day off.

ok, i went from not eating enough to eating too much...=P waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to many carbs today. i had 2 plates of spagetti, 2 plates of chicken jambalya, 3 bowls of cereal, 3 eggo waffles, and lots of garlic bread.

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 48, dear diary...

.8cc test prop + .8cc tren across both biceps
20mg liquid-tamoxifen

no workout...i'm sick...=( i have a nasty sore throat and am experiencing loss of appetite. i barely ate today...>=| actually i had 2 pretty big meals, but thats all...

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 49, dear diary...

.8cc test prop + .8cc tren across both triceps
20mg liquid-tamoxifen

no workout, i still feel terrible...=(

i saw the doctor today about me being sick, but it ended up being about steroids . i decided to tell her about my AAS usage and ask for bloodwork done. she didn't seem concerned at all!! she asked how much longer i'm going to be on them. i said 1-2 more weeks and she casually said "good". she seemed more concerned with my gf's smoking...=P

anyways, all my vitals are good, she recommended fiber pills for my bloody poo thing, and she told me post cycle recovery shouldn't be a problem at all.

somehow we got to talking about rec drugs and she told me how bad X is. she said one time X usage can result in perm brain damage. a girl recently came in who tried X once and now has balance problems. an MRI revealed brain damage. she said coke, meth, heroin and steroids are much less dangerous than X as long as you don't stay on them for too long.

-- clocky

[Polska]

Cool doctor!! My doc's a tightass.... she would barely talk to me after I admitted my AS use. she also said the body takes years to recover from even a small cycle of steroids . She wouldn't prescribe me clomid either. heh.

[clockworks]

day 50, dear diary...

.8cc test prop + .8cc tren across both pecs
20mg liquid-tamoxifen

still sick...=(

polska, yeah...i was shocked at how cool she was with the whole issue also.

-- clocky

[DocHoliday]

Clock,

You been lifting sick? Take it easy and take Echinacea pills. AND NO SEX DAWG. It drains you. You need all you can to recover. Take after me…NO SEX.

Doc

[DocHoliday]

arty-smi

[clockworks]

day 51, dear diary...

.8cc test prop + .8cc tren into left glute
20mg liquid-tamoxifen

good leg workout. 10 lbs increase on last set of squats.

diet is pretty good, been eating often in small amounts. i don't know if this is bad, but i stopped giving a **** about my fat intake. all i care about is total caloric intake, enough carbs to fuel my workouts, and 200+ grams of protein.

You been lifting sick? Take it easy and take Echinacea pills. AND NO SEX DAWG. It drains you. You need all you can to recover. Take after me…NO SEX.

i just got over my cold today. i had not been lifting while sick, i took 3 consecutive days off...=(

no sex?!? no way! hehe, "take after you"...i outta send you some of my homebrew prop, it'll get your motor running again. my girlie already gave me 2 blowies today and she's coming over to spend the night tonight and i'm gunna pounce her as soon as she walks in the door...

-- clocky

[Polska]

i just got over my cold today. i had not been lifting while sick, i took 3 consecutive days off...=(

3 days is nothing man, try taking 3 consecutive WEEKS off I am just getting back into lifting now, I was getting too burned out. And I am not even on gear now I am a weakling in the gym.

[clockworks]

day 52, dear diary...

.8cc test prop + .8cc tren in right glute
20mg liquid-tamoxifen

thanksgiving, gyms are closed.

diet...heh, i ate 2 big meals and thats it...=(

3 days is nothing man, try taking 3 consecutive WEEKS off I am just getting back into lifting now, I was getting too burned out. And I am not even on gear now I am a weakling in the gym.

the 3-4 days off actually helped, see my next diary entry...=)

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 53, dear diary...

.8cc test prop + .8cc tren into left delt
20mg liquid-tamoxifen

awesome chest workout. i made significant gains. it musta been the 3-4 days i took off while sick. here are some numbers:

incline bench:
135x8
155x8
175x6
195x6

flat bench:
185x6
205x6
225x5

the gains are more reps on the last sets of each exercise.

-- clocky

[DocHoliday]

Yeah I noticed the upped reps.

Up two in flat and three in incline right?

Good job Mr. Works.

Doc

[Polska]

i used their 2g kit with 1 cart (2g) of fina. i'm pretty sure it yields 75mg/ml final solution. so if you have their 4g kit, you need to use 2 carts (4g) of fina to get 75mg/ml final solution.

Hey bro just going back to this... I brewed my fina last night with a GPZ 4G kit, 2 carts... I got roughly 40ml yet basskillers strength chart http://www.basskilleronline.com/diff...strengths.html indicates mine should be at 97mg/ml not 75mg/ml. Is this the chart you refered to when figuring out your concentration? I just dont know what concentration I ended up wtih. I e-mailed GPZ to see what their kit is set at but haven't received a reply as of yet...

[clockworks]

day 54, dear diary...

.8cc test prop + .8cc tren into right delt
20mg liquid-tamoxifen

no gym, no workout (i used a guest pass yesterday)...=(

Up two in flat and three in incline right?

yup, something like that...and i didn't even seem to struggle that much is the cool thing...=)

polska, no i didn't refer to that chart. i was under the impression that all the kits are measured out to yield 75mg/ml if you use 1 cart per 2g kit, regardless of loss.

-- clocky

[Polska]

polska, no i didn't refer to that chart. i was under the impression that all the kits are measured out to yield 75mg/ml if you use 1 cart per 2g kit, regardless of loss.

I guess it depends on the kit maker. some kits are set to yield 100mg/ml and some 75mg/ml, depending on how much oil and solution they give you. Oh well, I guess I'll find out when GPZ gets back to me.

[clockworks]

day 55, dear diary...

.8cc test prop + .8cc tren into left quad
16mg liquid-tamoxifen

no workout, gunna wait till after thanksgiving weekend.

diet is good, high calories, i missing my whey protein though...

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 56, dear diary...

.8cc test prop + .8cc tren into right quad
16mg liquid-tamoxifen

no workout. ok ok, i know i should have worked out today, i'm back home, but my gf wants me to get a week pass at her gym so we can workout together for the entire week. we're gunna get it tomorrow.

diet good: spagetti, rice, chicken, veggies, fried chicken, hot dog, more spagetti.

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 57, dear diary...

.8cc test prop + .8cc tren across both biceps.
16mg liquid-tamoxifen

great back workout. i worked out at my gf's gym with her. deadlifting seemed easier, i got a better than normal back pump when doing pullups, etc. at the end of the workout my back was feeling very fatigued and tight. great soreness followed the two days after...=)

diet is ok. not eating as much meat as i want, but i gotta go with what i can afford. rough idea of diet: tuna sandwich, spagetti, hot dog, sushi, korean bbq beef, and of course protein shakes.

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 58, dear diary...

.8cc test prop + .8cc tren across both triceps.
16mg liquid-tamoxifen

good shoulder workout. there was no barbell shoulder press station, so i had to use the smith machine. got a nice shoulder burn from it...=) we ran outta time cuz she wanted to do yoga, sucks cuz i had rush my upright rows which i wanted to make gains in.

diet not so good today. spagetti a few times, hot dog, sushi, cottage cheese and pineapple, and protein shakes. oh yeah, and some ice cream...>=P

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 59, dear diary...

.8cc test prop + .9cc tren across both pecs.
16mg liquid-tamoxifen

thats it, i'm done with the tren...=( i'm going to continue the test for 3 more weeks though.

i think we're taking the day off from the gym today.

diet is ****ty so far today: pepperoni roll, fries, jr bacon cheeseburger, chili. prolly gunna finish off the day with spagetti and protein shakes. i need to hit up the store.

-- clocky

[ENraged]

nice work clock
heres a little before and after

[FCECC2]

wow awesome progress clock

[clockworks]

day 60, dear diary...

.9cc test prop into left delt
16mg liquid-tamoxifen

good leg workout. my girlie suprised me, she really worked hard...=) here are some of my ****ty numbers:

squats
135x8
205x10
225x10
245x8

diet is crappy... lets see...egg sandwich with cheese, some protein shakes, a little hamburger helper, some orange chicken with lomein, bowl of honey nut cheerios, some cottage cheese with pineapple, double cheeseburger from mcdonalds, some ice cream and cobbler.

enraged, and trl...thanks for your comments and doing the comparison pics...=)

-- clocky

[Strut99GT]

Eh, your diet isn't as bad as you think it is, clock. At least you're getting a decent amount of calories and sufficient amount of protein. You can worry about eating food that's more clean when you're off cycle.

[clockworks]

day 61, dear diary...

.9cc test prop into right delt
16mg liquid-tamoxifen

no workout. i have a shoulder injury. the top of my left delt (where the delt and bone meet) feels bruised. it hurts when i press on it and hurts like hell when i try to do bench press. i don't know what caused it, i don't remember bumping anything. i remember the pain started maybe a day after i did an injection into it. weird thing is, i could do my shoulder workout with less pain...i.e. i could actually >do< my shoulder workout. i can't do my chest workout cuz it hurts too much...=/

diet is pretty good today: tuna sandwich, cobbler and ice cream, tuna sandwich, and a few protein shakes. i'm going to finish off the day with a bowl of cereal, an egg sandwich, and maybe another tuna sandwich...and of course, more protein shakes.

Eh, your diet isn't as bad as you think it is, clock. At least you're getting a decent amount of calories and sufficient amount of protein. You can worry about eating food that's more clean when you're off cycle.

ehh, true dat...=) as long as i get enough protein, i guess it don't matter much where the other calories come from, right?

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 62, dear diary...

.9cc test prop into left quad...ouch, stung like a bitch...
16mg liquid-tamoxifen

here's the chest workout i did before my shoulder pain/injury said "NO MORE!":

incline bench
135x8 (ouch!)
155x8 (ehh, getting better)
185x6 (mmm, i can deal with the pain)
205x3 (****, i think i just made it much worse)

so i did a back workout instead...a good one...made gains:

wide grip, arched back pullups
10
10
10

deadlifts
135x8
225x8
285x8 (10 lbs increase)
325x7 (10 lbs, 1 rep increase)

bent over barbell rows
135x10
145x10
155x10

then finished off with lat pulldowns (close and wide grip).

diet is pretty good today:
2 eggo waffles
1.5 quesadillas
3 tuna sandwiches
2 protein shakes
1 chicken breast
1 mexican martini
1 beer

-- clocky

[DocHoliday]

eh hm, one beer?

[clockworks]

day 63, dear diary...

.9cc test prop into right glute
16mg liquid-tamoxifen

day off, no workout...i need to let my shoulder heal anyways...

diet is pretty good today
protein shakes
2 eggo waffles
girlie brought me food from her luncheon at work: ham, mashed yams with pecans, bread, shrimp pasta salad, and lots of naughty desserts
egg sandwich
tuna sandwich
cottage cheese and pineapple

eh hm, one beer?

hehe yeah, just one...but a mexican martini also...and those are like 3 drinks...=)

-- clocky

[Da Bull]

How much weight have you put on this cycle?

[clockworks]

day 64, dear diary...

.85cc test prop into right bicep
16mg liquid-tamoxifen

no workout again, gotta let shoulder heal.

can't remember what i eat today, but it was something like tuna sandwiches, egg sandwiches, shrimp linguini, etc.

How much weight have you put on this cycle?

i haven't been back to the gym where i took my original weight measurement for a long time. i weighed in at the main school gym at 170 lbs (15 lbs increase), but that scale seemed to weigh 5 lbs heavy compared to my original scale...

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 65, dear diary...

.85cc test prop into right bicep
16mg liquid-tamoxifen

ok bicep, tricep workout:

preacher curls (went down 10 lbs, but did more reps and sets)
35x12
45x10
55x8
65x6
75x4

standing dumbell curls (slow and difficult)
32.5x5
30x7
25x8
20x8

finished off with machine curls. for triceps, i did cable rope pulldown, reverse cable staightbar pulldown, and skullcrushers.


can i do more weight? yes, but i feel biceps should be worked with higher volumn, less weight. its such a small muscle that if i lift heavy (greater than 85 lbs), they die after one set.

my girlie brought THREE huge party plates of sandwiches from her work...=) good sandwiches, ham/turkey/roast beef with TONS of meat, no mayo, and a few had a tiny piece of cheese.

diet:
12+ finger sandwiches
tuna pita
scrambled eggs
eggo waffles
cliff bar
left over shrimp linguini
protein shakes

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 66, dear diary...

.9cc test prop into left tricep
16mg liquid tamoxifen

no workout, i only workout 3 days a week now cuz of the shoulder injury...=(

diet, i can't remember.

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 67, dear diary...

.9cc test prop into right tricep
16mg liquid tamoxifen

no workout again (shoulder injury).

diet ****ty:
dim sum
samplers from about 5 restaurants
finger sandwiches

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 68, dear diary...

.9cc test prop into left pec
16mg liquid tamoxifen

ok leg workout:

squats
135x10
225x10
255x6

finished up with leg extensions, leg curls, and calf sled.

diet is ok:
2 eggos
tuna salad pita pocket
breakfast burrito (egg, sausage, cheese)
cliff bar
tator tots
roast beef and ham sandwich
granola bar
chicken salad pita pocket
cottage cheese and pineapple
bowl of cereal
3 beers

i'm kinda dismayed. since i stopped taking the tren , i've lost 5 lbs. as i stand now, i've gained 10 lbs total since the beginning of the cycle. i'm beginning to question the strength/quality of my test prop...=/

also, i need to re-evaluate my diet. i ran outta whey protein like 4 days ago, so thats like 800 cals cut outta my diet right there. i'm going to raise the calorie intake...maybe gain that 5 lbs back...=)

-- clocky

[50%Natural]

Great work so far man. Huge gains in everything thus far.

[Ntpadude]

day 68, dear diary...
i'm kinda dismayed. since i stopped taking the tren , i've lost 5 lbs. as i stand now, i've gained 10 lbs total since the beginning of the cycle. i'm beginning to question the strength/quality of my test prop...=/

also, i need to re-evaluate my diet. i ran outta whey protein like 4 days ago, so thats like 800 cals cut outta my diet right there. i'm going to raise the calorie intake...maybe gain that 5 lbs back...=)

-- clocky

I think it boils down to the reason most people say do 10-12 week cycles is because your AS receptors get tired of growing and the whole steroid routine... I am forcing my cycle to continue past the original planned 10 weeks because I dont want to be depressed and miserable in PCT right at Christmas time but it seems I maxed out my weight gains at week 7 or 8... although the more I push with calaries, I am still seeing my tummy cutting. I assumed my dosages were worn out so I upped them and got some more definition, lost 1/2 inch off belly button area in the last 3 week, gained 1/2 inch to bicep and chest each... but no real progress on scale... I think my scale is stuck/broke because mirror and tape measure seem to tell me I am gaining but I just see the same weight almost for last 5 weeks. I ended my deca 2 fridays ago... have not seen any lost gains from that... I almost think my 250 mg of deca was just a big waste of time the whole time because not doing enough.

[clockworks]

day 69, dear diary...huh huh...sixty nine...

1cc test prop into right pec
16mg liquid tamoxifen

no workout.

i have a plan to gain back those 5 lbs that i lost. i'm going to up the dosage to 100mg test prop ED and increase my calorie count. check day 75 for results.

diet:
double meat homemade hamburger
chicken salad pita pocket
tuna salad pita pocket
breakfast tacos (eggs, sausage, cheese)
ham/turkey sandwich
tator tots
eggo waffles

ntpadude, i think you're right about stopping the weight gain after week 8 or so. but i still think your muscles develope shape as long as you're on the AAS. the whole weight gain thing is kinda bogus to me. i've heard from more than one medical doctor that its impossible to put on more than 10 lbs of >actual muscle< a YEAR...even if using AAS. kinda fishy that people make "lbm" gains of like 20 lbs in just a few weeks... anyways, thats great that you are still losing inches off the stomach...congrats...=)

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 70, dear diary...

1cc test prop into left glute
16mg liquid tamoxifen

no workout.

diet:
same as yesterday, but ate out also.

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 71, dear diary...

1cc test prop into right glute
16mg liquid tamoxifen

no workout (yes, i still have that shoulder injury).

diet (same deal):
double meat homemade hamburgers
2x tuna pita
chicken pita
breakfast tacos
tater tots
eggos
cereal
some wendy's (chili and jr bacon cheeseburger)

-- clocky

[clockworks]

day 72, dear diary

1cc test prop into left quad
16mg liquid tamoxifen

back workout:

deadlifts
135x8
225x8
295x6
335x5

t-bar rows
115x8
125x8
135x8

diet:
same as before

-- clocky