clock's first cycle: tren (+ prop)

**clockworks** · 12-20-2003, 07:52 PM

day 73, dear diary...

1cc test prop into right quad
16mg liquid tamoxifen

no workout.

diet is same except i ate out also.

-- clocky

**clockworks** · 12-20-2003, 07:55 PM

day 74, dear diary...

1cc test prop into left delt
16mg liquid tamoxifen

no workout.

diet, i over did it. i'm NEVER over eating again. all that advice people give, "eat till you can't eat anymore, then eat some more"...is f-ing bull****. i felt like i was going to die.

same diet as usual, except a friend said he'd buy me dinner if i helped him clean out his desk at school. so on top of my already big diet, i ate a HUGE plate of pad thai (with chicken and tofu). the plate was fuller than normal. i felt so sick. then only 2 hours later, i went to dinner again with my gf and had a 3/4 lbs burger! the sickness came again...=(

-- clocky

**clockworks** · 12-20-2003, 07:57 PM

day 75, dear diary...

1cc test prop into right delt
16mg liquid tamoxifen

bicep workout. not so hot, i felt weak.

diet:
2 breakfast tacos (egg, sausage, cheese)
tator tots
double meat homemade hamburger
chicken breast sandwich
more to come...

ok, i weighed myself today. the plan worked. i gained back my 5 lbs, plus a lb even! =) on the down side, i feel fat. looking at myself in the gym, i feel like i'm not as hard, vascular, or defined. its kinda upsetting. i really really want to get back on the tren ...=(

-- clocky

**clockworks** · 12-22-2003, 01:47 AM

day 76, dear diary...

1cc test prop into left quad
16mg liquid tamoxifen

gym is closed in my city. i'm going to my hometown for xmas on tuesday. i don't know what the gym holiday hours are like there.

diet:
2 breakfast tacos (sausage, egg, cheese)
3 chicken salad pitas
1 chicken breast sandwich
more to come...

-- clocky

**thickmass** · 12-23-2003, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by clockworks

day 76, dear diary...

1cc test prop into left quad
16mg liquid tamoxifen

gym is closed in my city. i'm going to my hometown for xmas on tuesday. i don't know what the gym holiday hours are like there.

diet:
2 breakfast tacos (sausage, egg, cheese)
3 chicken salad pitas
1 chicken breast sandwich
more to come...

-- clocky

Impressive. I just read all 5 pages of your diary. Just not sure what you weigh now.

What are your before/current measurements?

***Mr. Sparkle*** · 12-29-2003, 12:33 AM

bump

**clockworks** · 12-29-2003, 10:58 AM

dear diary,

last i weighed myself was like 2 weeks ago. i weighed about 169 lbs +/- 1 lb. i didn't take before measurements...=/

well here's an update to my cycle...

i ****ed up....bad.

i haven't worked out for over 2 weeks and i'm not going to be able to for another week or so. my gym was closed the week of xmas (and my membership there ended after xmas). my new membership doesn't take effect till jan 5th. my diet is hell cuz i've been home for the holidays and my mom only cooks 3 meals a day...and they aren't big feasts either...they are small things. i'm so poor, i can't afford whey protein powder...=( the combination of no working out, poor diet, and lack of protein, all at the end of my cycle, leaves me wondering if i'm going to keep any gains at all.

PCT:
i've done 3 days of pct...
1) 300mg liquid-clomid, 16mg liquid-tamoxifen , 20mcg liquid-clen
2) 100mg liquid-clomid, 16mg liquid-tamoxifen, 40mcg liquid-clen
3) 100mg liquid-clomid, 16mg liquid-tamoxifen, 60mcg liquid-clen

the clomid tastes HORRIBLE. oh god, worse than the tamoxifen. the clen tastes like water...and has zero effect on me...i think it >is< water...=(

-- clocky

EDIT: p.s. the acne on my back/shoulders is out of control...=( next time i do a cycle, i'm going to look into acne medicine.

**clockworks** · 12-29-2003, 11:50 PM

dear diary...

a few days after i started taking the tamoxifen (like week 3 of my cycle), my gf said she could taste the tamoxifen when she sucked on my nipples. i kinda blew it off thinking that maybe she's a bit paranoid.

how does she know what liquid-tamoxifen tastes like? i took some and kissed her a little afterwards and appearently, not all of it was outta my mouth yet.

well today she said it again. and this time, she sucked really hard, then stuck her tongue in my mouth and sure enough...tasted like watered down tamoxifen.

wierd, but makes sense. the tamoxifen is binding to estrogen receptors in the nipples so you don't get b-tch tits, so appearently you can suck the tamoxifen out from them.

Originally Posted by tymax

yo c-works, do u think the acne would've been as bad or close to if you had opted to not use clomid, but only nolva instead??

the acne started to get bad around week 8 of my cycle. i started PCT 4 weeks after that, so i'm thinking the acne is mainly caused by the roids, not th PCT.

-- clocky