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    exactly, if only we had gotten Hitler to slay down on the couch and talk about his mother, maybe than this whole WW2 thing could have been avoided. Peepants, Never-neverland must be beautiful this time of year........
    Always bringing up Hitler. We didn't start fighting Hitler because he was slaughtering jews in concentration camps. The the only reason we got into that the war (with troops) was because Hitler's ally Japan bombed us. If Japan hadn't attacked us, we might not have gotten into that war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpeepants
    Always bringing up Hitler. We didn't start fighting Hitler because he was slaughtering jews in concentration camps. The the only reason we got into that the war (with troops) was because Hitler's ally Japan bombed us. If Japan hadn't attacked us, we might not have gotten into that war.
    Sure, we would have just let England and France become a part of nazi Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Sure, we would have just let England and France become a part of nazi Germany.
    France was already under Nazi rule. Without being attacked by Japan, I don't know how FDR would have gotten the American people to fight another war. We would of helped France and Britain the best way we could but going to war, I'm not sure after the results of war war one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpeepants
    France was already under Nazi rule. Without being attacked by Japan, I don't know how FDR would have gotten the American people to fight another war. We would of helped France and Britain the best way we could but going to war, I'm not sure after the results of war war one.
    Don't forget that we had Nazi subs on the outscirts of Manhatten Before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. They knew that it was in our best interests to not allow the Nazi's to rule such a large land mass. But unlike those in the Middle East, if Nazi's would have taken over Europe, the Europeans would have fought back.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Don't forget that we had Nazi subs on the outscirts of Manhatten Before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. They knew that it was in our best interests to not allow the Nazi's to rule such a large land mass. But unlike those in the Middle East, if Nazi's would have taken over Europe, the Europeans would have fought back.........
    I'm not sure what you mean by the middle east comment. But the only way for the FDR to mobilize the country into war was only if it was attacked. There were plenty of isolationist who didn't want to get involved in another european war. when japan attacked, it made it our war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpeepants
    I don't know if it's a war. But it is regionally fighting that is occuring on both sides and civillians getting killed and raped. There are no soldiers there just miltia men back by the Sudanese government and rebels (this are the ones we're backing) fighting those miltia men and the goverment. How are the jets going to differenting between the groups let alone civillians when there dropping bombs. Hitting strategically is never as strategic as we think. All the while, people will be starving to death and dying from disease while they watching the bombs fly.
    What are you talking about? There is no war it is genocide. There are the guys with guns mass slaughtering poor village people. No fighting between sides, just one side slaughtering peaceful villagers.

    They said ALL interference will be meet with strong opposition, this includes the AU.

    So, I guess no matter what is going on, no matter how may little girls are getting gang raped each day, you would never send in fighting troops?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpeepants
    Always bringing up Hitler. We didn't start fighting Hitler because he was slaughtering jews in concentration camps. The the only reason we got into that the war (with troops) was because Hitler's ally Japan bombed us. If Japan hadn't attacked us, we might not have gotten into that war.
    You missed the whole point, let me say it another way:

    If we would have only talked with Jeffery Dahmer he would have never been a serial murder, we could have saved all those lives.

    Get it? You can’t talk with sick basterds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpeepants
    We can stop it by funding AU troops so they can guard the refugee camps and villages and protect aid convoys. NO, AU TROOPS WILL BE MEET WITH STRONG OPPOSITION. So all the people outside the camps should die? all people in the camps and villages will be slaguhtered, unless the world interfears with force, once again it is genocide This would provents the thousands of thousands of deaths that are occuring in those camps due to starvation and disease.NOT true, They will eventually be slaughtered if they are in the region Now answer my questions instead of dodging:just like you dodged mine

    1. You said all governments are evil to varying degree. So why do you think these goverments have the best interest of the Sudanese civillians at heart? they don’t that is what I am complaining about. If they did there would already be military forces there stopping the genocide.

    2. How is bombing going to solve the root cause of land resource?
    We can deal with that after we stop the 4 year old girls from getting gang raped. Yes bring in education, irrigation…after we get rid of the monsters


    3. How are you going to differentiate between miltia men, rebel, and civillian when your bombing? Easy, march 3 million troops and they will give up with no shots fired. Do you know what 3 million troops would look like?

    4. How are you going get the 3 million troops? If every country in the world gave troops it would be no problem.

    5. Will the troops overthrow the goverment? YES

    6. How will you solve the disablizing affects on neighboring countries do to bombing Sudan? Help them too, bring in food education, irragation...

    7. What about the muslim world's reaction to bombing Sudan? They already dislike westerners, big deal

    8. Do you realize that Darfur is about the size of France? NO

    My whole point of this thing is that the world doesn’t care, they just want to talk, and the genocide goes on. 3 million troops marching would stop it with minimal causalities maybe none, they would all surrender. Then bring in the aid and so fourth. Bring in the irrigation and education… to all in Africa and around the world. But NO we are in Iraq because there is oil there. What a fukt up world, full of hypocrites.

    We did the same with the Indians…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad B
    What are you talking about? There is no war it is genocide. There are the guys with guns mass slaughtering poor village people. No fighting between sides, just one side slaughtering peaceful villagers.

    They said ALL interference will be meet with strong opposition, this includes the AU.

    So, I guess no matter what is going on, no matter how may little girls are getting gang raped each day, you would never send in fighting troops?
    The Sudanese government is using Janjaweed miltia men to fight rebels in Darfur. The Janjaweed are also killing and raping Fur and another ethnic groups that they have long had beef with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad B
    You missed the whole point, let me say it another way:

    If we would have only talked with Jeffery Dahmer he would have never been a serial murder, we could have saved all those lives.

    Get it? You can’t talk with sick basterds.

    But are you going to bomb Wisconsin to get him.

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    My whole point of this thing is that the world doesn’t care, they just want to talk, and the genocide goes on. 3 million troops marching would stop it with minimal causalities maybe none, they would all surrender. Then bring in the aid and so fourth. Bring in the irrigation and education… to all in Africa and around the world. But NO we are in Iraq because there is oil there. What a fukt up world, full of hypocrites.

    We did the same with the Indians…
    I think we agree that world governments don't care. We just disagree on motives of solving the problem.

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