Dr. Suess books declared racist. Canceled

[Cornish]

How do we know they are liberals...Hrmmmm..." our audiences including teachers, academics and specialists in the field." Bahahaha

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[Hughinn]

Because I realize there are some members here who openly and even proudly support the american leftist movement, out of respect for them, I don't think it appropriate to start another thread on the progression of the democrat party's mission to cancel american culture.

So instead of trying to rub a puppy's nose in it's own shit. I'll just post the latest victim here, as we all shake our heads in confusion over what this all means and why it's happening.

Rip. Canceled for promoting "rape culture". A skunk, who chases around a cat mind you. A children's cartoon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1260311

Coming on the heels of vp harris, whom once said "all women should be believed" and vehemently and viciously supported the claims made against a supreme court justice last year, now refuses to answer any questions concerning her democrat colleague governor andrew cuomo, who faces truly credible accusations of sexual harassment.

By credible, I mean it can at least be proved both the accused and accuser we're at some point in the same place at the same time. Of course this critical evidence meant nothing to madame harris when she hysterically attacked justice kavanagh, when even a basic requisite like that couldn't be proved at the time. Making it so much more puzzling why she refuses any questions concerning her colleague mr. Cuomo.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kam...ssment-scandal

It's baffling to try to understand just how the current administration is truly trying to combat "rape culture" by cancelling children's cartoons, but ignoring the elephant in the room.

[Honkey_Kong]

Because I realize there are some members here who openly and even proudly support the american leftist movement, out of respect for them, I don't think it appropriate to start another thread on the progression of the democrat party's mission to cancel american culture.

So instead of trying to rub a puppy's nose in it's own shit. I'll just post the latest victim here, as we all shake our heads in confusion over what this all means and why it's happening.

Rip. Canceled for promoting "rape culture". A skunk, who chases around a cat mind you. A children's cartoon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1260311

Coming on the heels of vp harris, whom once said "all women should be believed" and vehemently and viciously supported the claims made against a supreme court justice last year, now refuses to answer any questions concerning her democrat colleague governor andrew cuomo, who faces truly credible accusations of sexual harassment.

By credible, I mean it can at least be proved both the accused and accuser we're at some point in the same place at the same time. Of course this critical evidence meant nothing to madame harris when she hysterically attacked justice kavanagh, when even a basic requisite like that couldn't be proved at the time. Making it so much more puzzling why she refuses any questions concerning her colleague mr. Cuomo.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kam...ssment-scandal

It's baffling to try to understand just how the current administration is truly trying to combat "rape culture" by cancelling children's cartoons, but ignoring the elephant in the room.

Biden really has nothing to do with companies banning their own intellectual properties. Warner Bros. are the ones behind that. Just like Disney is the one behind the censoring of a whole bunch of their own movies. I agree with you that it's stupid and ridiculous, but you can do whatever you want with your property and they are doing that with theirs.

You could just make your own cartoons to fill in the void that the removal of Pepe le Pew created.

[Beetlegeuse]

Why canceling Dr. Seuss is a threat to all evangelicals

Theodor Seuss Geisel (1904–'91) wrote and illustrated more than 60 books under the pen name Dr. Seuss. By the time of his death, his books had sold more than 600 million copies and had been translated into more than 20 languages.

Geisel was a graduate of Dartmouth with graduate studies at Oxford. His work received two Academy Awards, two Emmy Awards, a Peabody Award, and the Pulitzer Prize. For decades, Read Across America Day has celebrated his birthday while encouraging children to read. Like millions of others, I read Dr. Seuss’ books as a child and then read them to our children.

Then came recent accusations that some of his books depict characters in racist ways. A school district in Virginia dropped Read Across America Day as a result. While President Obama marked the day with a proclamation calling Dr. Seuss “one of America’s revered wordsmiths” and President Trump cited his “motivational words,” President Biden omitted any reference to Dr. Seuss in his recent proclamation marking the day.

In response to this controversy, the company that oversees the author’s estate announced that it would no longer publish six of his books, citing what it called “hurtful and wrong” images.

The company did not elaborate, but The New York Times reports that one of the books portrays a “Chinaman” with lines for eyes who is wearing a pointed hat and carrying chopsticks and a bowl of rice. Another book depicts two characters from “the African island of Yerka” as shirtless, shoeless, and resembling monkeys. National Review notes that another Dr. Seuss book seems to have been targeted for a depiction of an Eskimo and still another for an Arab-looking character.

Then eBay joined the controversy, announcing that it would purge all listings for the six books from its site. Notably, the e-commerce giant will still allow you to sell pornography, Mein Kampf, and Chairman Mao’s Little Red Book.

The Sneetches and the United Nations

I understand the sentiment against cartoons depicting ethnicities in unflattering or discriminatory ways, especially in books that could be influential for children. When the company that owns the formerly branded Aunt Jemima pancake and syrup products changed the brand and dropped a logo known to perpetuate racist stereotypes, I wrote an article supporting their decision.

However, there’s more to the story, a dimension that affects every evangelical Christian in America.

Writing for National Review, Dan McLaughlin focuses on another book by Dr. Seuss that has recently come under fire, The Sneetches. He describes the plot: The Sneetches are identical birds, except that some have stars on their bellies while others do not. The star-belly Sneetches look down on the star-less Sneetches. Then a monkey named Sylvester McMonkey McBean offers to add stars to bellies for a fee.

Now that the star-belly Sneetches are no longer superior, McBean talks them into removing their stars so that they can declare star-less bellies to be the new grounds for supremacy. Eventually, everyone loses track of who had what, while McBean makes off with all their money. Poorer but wiser, the Sneetches abandon star-based classification altogether and live in star-blind harmony.

The moral is clear and compelling: we should not discriminate against others based on their appearance. A “star blind” culture is best for all. Everyone deserves the same opportunities as everyone else. The book is so persuasive and its message so positive that in 1998, NATO and the UN distributed copies of the book in Bosnia in the midst of the ethnic conflicts being waged there.

This was essentially the approach of the civil rights movement. The of 1964 ended segregation in public places and banned employment discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. The of 1965 ensured that all Americans have the equal right and access to vote.

The goal was a culture in which everyone had the same rights and opportunities as everyone else. A “star-blind” society, in other words.

The NEA recommends a book about a cross-dressing prince

That was then; this is now.

McLaughlin quotes the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) with regard to The Sneetches: “The solution to the story’s conflict is that the Plain-Belly Sneetches and Star-Bellied Sneetches simply get confused as to who is oppressed. As a result, they accept one another. This message of ‘acceptance’ does not acknowledge structural power imbalances. It doesn’t address the idea that historical narratives impact present-day power structures. And instead of encouraging young readers to recognize and take action against injustice, the story promotes a race-neutral approach.”

Here’s the point: it’s no longer enough to seek a world in which all Americans have equal opportunities with regard to voting, education, employment, or other civil rights. Now we must be proactive in “canceling” any oppression as defined by any person considered to be oppressed. We must identify “structural power imbalances” and “take action against injustice” as defined by the SPLC and similar groups.

For example, the National Education Association has provided a list of books to consider as replacements for those by Dr. Seuss that have been canceled. It includes Julián Is a Mermaid, about a boy who wants to be a mermaid, and The Prince and the Dressmaker, about a cross-dressing prince.

Why we must 'be strong and courageous'

Tomorrow, I plan to explain the worldview behind this movement. For today, let’s note its danger for evangelicals. If you disagree with this ideology, you’re among the oppressors. If you defend biblical morality against an LGBTQ agenda, for instance, you’re an oppressor of the persecuted oppressed. This mentality applies to “minority rights” across the age spectrum from abortion to euthanasia.

This ideology is only going to become more pervasive in a culture that is deteriorating from our Judeo-Christian heritage to post-Christian to now anti-Christian worldviews. We must not compromise our biblical convictions or treat our opponents as our enemies. Instead, we must pray now for the courage to stand for biblical truth with biblical grace.

As we do, we can claim Moses’ word to the Jews confronting the dangers they faced as God’s word to us: “Be strong and courageous. Do not fear or be in dread of them, for it is the Lord your God who goes with you. He will not leave you or forsake you” (Deuteronomy 31:6).

Will you take your Lord at his word today

[Hughinn]

Biden really has nothing to do with companies banning their own intellectual properties. Warner Bros. are the ones behind that. Just like Disney is the one behind the censoring of a whole bunch of their own movies. I agree with you that it's stupid and ridiculous, but you can do whatever you want with your property and they are doing that with theirs.

You could just make your own cartoons to fill in the void that the removal of Pepe le Pew created.

Making a choice based on objective and neutral information is one thing. I agree with your point there.

This was not that.

It was a choice made to avoid being bullied and defamed by the left. We have to stop pretending it's otherwise. Because if we continue to do that, it will keep on happening more and more. We must admit what's really going on. They were bullied into not selling books, cartoons and kids toys because the woke mob wants to destroy American culture.

When free expression and speech gets canceled because of political bullying, then you don't have freedom of speech or expression.

Not fighting an ass rape to avoid a beating, doesn't mean a victim consented to analyze sex and didn't get ass raped.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Making a choice based on objective and neutral information is one thing. I agree with your point there.

This was not that. So says you. The man who claims that middle class white men are slaves. I don't trust your judgement.

It was a choice made to avoid being bullied and defamed by the left. We have to stop pretending it's otherwise. Because if we continue to do that, it will keep on happening more and more. We must admit what's really going on. They were bullied into not selling books, cartoons and kids toys because the woke mob wants to destroy American culture.

When free expression and speech gets canceled because of political bullying, then you don't have freedom of speech or expression.

Not fighting an ass rape to avoid a beating, doesn't mean a victim consented to analyze sex and didn't get ass raped.

The teachers, and academics, and experts that spoke with the Dr. Seuss Enterprise simply used their FREEDOM OF SPEECH to voice their displeasure with some images in some books.
After listening to people who were using their FREEDOM OF SPEECH Dr. Seuss Enterprises agreed.

"These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong," Dr. Seuss Enterprises told The Associated Press in a statement.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dr-seuss-...racist-imagery

Then Dr. Seuss Enterprises ran their company the way they saw fit.
And a bunch of conservatives cried.

I understand how someone who thinks they are a slave can feel that Dr. Seuss Enterprises was getting bullied.
Life must be very scary to someone who thinks he is a slave.

I can understand how some white people on this board don't find some images offensive.
It doesn't mean that other people don't find some images offensive.

I can understand how some people think Dr. Seuss Enterprises shouldn't stop selling the books.
But Dr. Seuss Enterprises can do whatever they want... even if it offends the conservatives.

Seriously... the right feels offended because some teachers, academics, and experts were offended.
I geuss only the right can be offended????

#StopBeingOffendedBecauseItOffendsMe

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[Honkey_Kong]

Making a choice based on objective and neutral information is one thing. I agree with your point there.

This was not that.

It was a choice made to avoid being bullied and defamed by the left. We have to stop pretending it's otherwise. Because if we continue to do that, it will keep on happening more and more. We must admit what's really going on. They were bullied into not selling books, cartoons and kids toys because the woke mob wants to destroy American culture.

When free expression and speech gets canceled because of political bullying, then you don't have freedom of speech or expression.

Not fighting an ass rape to avoid a beating, doesn't mean a victim consented to analyze sex and didn't get ass raped.

I'm not going to look in to the claim of them being "bullied and defamed by the left," so I'll just take your word for it for this. So what you're trying to say is that it's not okay to complain about something you don't like? If somebody does something you don't like, you can't go to them and express how disgusted you are? That sounds awfully like those safe spaces and crayons, the left were being accused of.

If you were to ban them from being able to do that, where is the line? Nobody can be critical of anyone no matter what fvuked up things they do?

I don't agree with those commies, but I also don't agree with abandoning the very values that made American society. Stooping down to their level only makes you as bad as they are.

[Hughinn]

I'm not going to look in to the claim of them being "bullied and defamed by the left," so I'll just take your word for it for this. So what you're trying to say is that it's not okay to complain about something you don't like? If somebody does something you don't like, you can't go to them and express how disgusted you are? That sounds awfully like those safe spaces and crayons, the left were being accused of.

If you were to ban them from being able to do that, where is the line? Nobody can be critical of anyone no matter what fvuked up things they do?

I don't agree with those commies, but I also don't agree with abandoning the very values that made American society. Stooping down to their level only makes you as bad as they are.

That's pretty much what I'm saying.

It's not okay in my opinion.

Like test monster said earlier, many find the rap music vulgar and offensive, easily sexist and misogynist. But you don't see anyone trying to bully the producers into stopping publishing it, because that's a violation of freedom of speech and expression.

In my opinion.

[Hughinn]

The teachers, and academics, and experts that spoke with the Dr. Seuss Enterprise simply used their FREEDOM OF SPEECH to voice their displeasure with some images in some books.
After listening to people who were using their FREEDOM OF SPEECH Dr. Seuss Enterprises agreed.

"These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong," Dr. Seuss Enterprises told The Associated Press in a statement.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dr-seuss-...racist-imagery

Then Dr. Seuss Enterprises ran their company the way they saw fit.
And a bunch of conservatives cried.

I understand how someone who thinks they are a slave can feel that Dr. Seuss Enterprises was getting bullied.
Life must be very scary to someone who thinks he is a slave.

I can understand how some white people on this board don't find some images offensive.
It doesn't mean that other people don't find some images offensive.

I can understand how some people think Dr. Seuss Enterprises shouldn't stop selling the books.
But Dr. Seuss Enterprises can do whatever they want... even if it offends the conservatives.

Seriously... the right feels offended because some teachers, academics, and experts were offended.
I geuss only the right can be offended????

#StopBeingOffendedBecauseItOffendsMe

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Dude, really. Can you debate anything without slinging insults and trying to belittle people? You're especially venomous when you lose.

I like debate. Always have. But I'm not going to respond to you anymore because you can't refrain from being insulting to people. And the mods have already sent multiple warnings.

I've got no way to settle it the old fashioned way because it's on the internet.
So I choose instead to no longer respond.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Dude, really. Can you debate anything without slinging insults and trying to belittle people? You're especially venomous when you lose.

I like debate. Always have. But I'm not going to respond to you anymore because you can't refrain from being insulting to people. And the mods have already sent multiple warnings.

I've got no way to settle it the old fashioned way because it's on the internet.
So I choose instead to no longer respond.

Name one insult in my statement.

What did you find offensive?

[Hughinn]

Name one insult in my statement.

I'm not going to argue with you.
You insult me over my point of view.

You insult the pillow guy over his.

You insult the beetle over his.

It goes on and on.

I'm taking the advice given to me by another member here who also refuses to respond to you.

It's just not worth it sir.

Have a nice day.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I'm not going to argue with you.
You insult me over my point of view.

You insult the pillow guy over his.

You insult the beetle over his.

It goes on and on.

I'm taking the advice given to me by another member here who also refuses to respond to you.

It's just not worth it sir.

Have a nice day.

Guess you couldn't name an insult.



Kinda funny that you just argued that people should have freedom of speech but when I exercise mine you get offended.


Side note: You insult plenty. You called VP Harris a cunt for fuck's sake. Get off your high horse.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Making a choice based on objective and neutral information is one thing. I agree with your point there.

This was not that.

It was a choice made to avoid being bullied and defamed by the left. We have to stop pretending it's otherwise. Because if we continue to do that, it will keep on happening more and more. We must admit what's really going on. They were bullied into not selling books, cartoons and kids toys because the woke mob wants to destroy American culture.

When free expression and speech gets canceled because of political bullying, then you don't have freedom of speech or expression.

Not fighting an ass rape to avoid a beating, doesn't mean a victim consented to analyze sex and didn't get ass raped.

Any proof of this bullying or defamation?

Or should we just take your word?

[Beetlegeuse]

[wango]

Nice!!! But can you solve this?