My HGH experience so far!

**over40mule** · 11-12-2004, 10:19 AM

Map: How old are you?

**Duck of Death** · 11-14-2004, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by bigjohnr

Good post Duck. Did you come off of the HGH also?
How long are you taking between cycles?
I am 44 looking for a relatively safe way to cycle during the year. A safe amount of time on and off but to look good year round.
Best of luck.

Hey BigjohnR:
Nope, I have continued with the HGH all along and after the test. I use 1.5iu/day with Sundays off. I will take at least twelve weeks off and probably begin my next cycle sometime after the holidays as I plan to fly to AZ to see my kids and I dont relish the prospect of travelling with AS in my possession.

Soooooo....... If I begin another cycle in January, I should be able to do two light cycles per year. I will get more blood work done in December to see exactly what the first cycle has wrought upon my organ profiles. I feel great though, and I dont anticipate any major revelations.

**Jdawg50** · 11-14-2004, 12:59 PM

What brand of GH do you have
I have a bunch of Fitropen I'm sitting on until January. I can't wait!

**bigjohnr** · 11-14-2004, 08:08 PM

Thanks Duck, have fun in AZ.

**63190** · 11-16-2004, 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by over40mule

Duck of Death : You go dude! Hope you steal some hottie from a 30 yr old..LOL. Listen, I'm 42 and have been on 1 IU for 2 months. About your testosterone concerns. I am going through a HRT clinic, all legal and FDA approved drugs. The HGH I get is made through a compound pharmacy and is overdosed and I only pay $8 an IU. When I did just 2 IU i got all the sides.. puffyness, jointpain..etc. Since I am back to 1 IU I feel 20 something again. If you want the info about the HRT clinic let me know? There 100% legit!

Is it only for older bros? I'd like to get a script for deca and sust. PM me please.

**Dukester** · 12-13-2004, 04:41 PM

Do the HRT clinics typically script the HGH along with the Test etc??? Obviously the HGH sounds like it is doing some real wonders for some of my older comrades here!!! I have GOT to check these clinics out! Hmmmm......

***xxx*** · 01-04-2005, 09:59 AM

bump

excellent post! any updates?

**Duck of Death** · 01-16-2005, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by ***xxx***

bump

excellent post! any updates?

......Why, I'm glad you asked. I have a lot of things to relate since my initial use of HGH and my first cycle (test cyp only - 400mg/week).
Number one, my weight has stabilized at 184 pounds, which pleases me since my waist is still 1.5 inches narrower than it was at the beginning. My strength in the gym has gone up a LOT (leg presses with ten plates now - could only manage six before all this began) but since the stoppage of the test, progess is slower but still steady (I expected this). The NOLVA ONLY PCT seemed to work fine for me. Of course, I did HCG right through the cycle at 250iu three times per week. My cojones did not shrink at all.
Number two, while I was planning my second cycle, I decided to try M1-T for s**ts and giggles. I did ten mg./day for three weeks. Wow!! It seemed to work OK and I did put on four pounds with the amazing pumps that everyone raves about BUT I got acne on my face and chest/back that made me look like the dark side of the moon. This alone will probably keep me from using it in the future. Also felt very lethargic and lazy.
Number three: I started my second cycle last week. It consists of:
WEEKS 1-14
1-12 Test Cyp 400 mg. (200 twice/week)
1-14 Liquidex .5mg every two days
6-14 oxandrolone 25mg. ED (1575 mg. total)
1-14 Liquinolva 10mg.day
1-10 deca 200 mg/week (100 mg twice/week)
1-13 HCG 250 iu EOD
1-14 Vitamin B-6 450mg. ED

PCT using Nolva only

Now here is the interesting part. During my first cycle, I experienced the {Ahem} hardening effect that was so much fun with the ladies. However, I also experienced a great deal of difficulty busting a nut! I was running 1 mg. Arimidex EOD on that cycle. I dont know, but I suspect that just trashing all that estrogen ( I was also taking 10mg. Nolva per day) has an effect on orgasmic capability. I decided to cut the Arimidex (Liquidex) to .5mg EOD to see if it makes a difference. Anastrozole is VERY effective and I think many of us might be overusing it, but again, this little experiment should be enlightening. ( I'll stop it abruptly if I start growing a rack).
Number four: I have now had experience with Saizen and Jintropin. I feel that Jin is hands down the more effective of the two. I just got a kit of Serostim, which I have been using and it is similar to Saizen. I have a kit of Fitropin on the way, so Ill let you know about that.
Whew......... this was a long post but I hope it helps. I'll keep in touch!

**AG5678** · 01-17-2005, 01:49 PM

You must love the stuff but its $ you a sweet penny

**Duck of Death** · 01-18-2005, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by AG5678

You must love the stuff but its $ you a sweet penny

...Well, let's put it into perspective. I use around 2iu/day which costs me about $7.60 per day. I know guys who drink a twelve-pack of beer every day and smoke a pack and a half of cigs to boot. Add that up and I bet it comes to more than seven bucks and change. Which one is a better investment for your health??

Its all a matter of priorities.........

***xxx*** · 01-19-2005, 05:56 AM

I agree. for this amount of money I would never doubt the decision. after all it is only one question that is bothering: will it be benificial for the health in the long run? there r no long term studies concerning gh hrt. so nonody really knows the outcome...

**johnsomebody** · 01-20-2005, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by Duck of Death

Now here is the interesting part. During my first cycle, I experienced the {Ahem} hardening effect that was so much fun with the ladies.

Keep in mind, boys and girls, that test doesn't necessarilly affect all guys the same way, at least at 500mg or more. The stuff about kills my sexdrive. NTPA dude posted a study a while ago saying at 500mg or over 40% went north, 40% went south and 20% stayed the same.

**AG5678** · 01-21-2005, 11:03 PM

Duck of Death: You have any pics yet?

***xxx*** · 02-14-2005, 04:41 AM

he said he was shy

any updates?

***xxx*** · 03-17-2005, 05:45 AM

bump for updates

**znak** · 03-20-2005, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by ***xxx***

bump for updates

Yeah, Duck ya ol' wag... where's the up date.

Probably off shagging a waitress somewhere....

**ShereKhan** · 03-22-2005, 02:00 PM

Yo bruthas,

Just have to say that your diary is smashing....

Love to read the stuff you post.

Keep us updatet.

Best da luck......

**Indymuscleguy** · 04-09-2005, 07:17 PM

Newbe here men,

**** this post has me so freaking excited! I'm turning 40 next year and have experienced 2 cycles of gear. 5'11" 175lbs 33"w 10.7%bf.

I would love a lead on getting some of this good stuff!

[email protected]

**seanw** · 04-09-2005, 07:20 PM

Bro you cant ask for sources on the open forums and ignore any PM's you get now offering you sources as they are probably scammers

**Indymuscleguy** · 04-10-2005, 08:14 AM

Sean,

My bad, I was really stupid for doing that. I apologize to the entire board.

[email protected]

***xxx*** · 04-13-2005, 09:24 AM

duck, where r u?! still getting laid

come back and give us an update!

**Duck of Death** · 04-15-2005, 05:40 AM

Hey my AR Bros and sisters:
Sorry to be in absentia for so long but a LOT has been going on in my life as of late. My divorce from my cheating wife is finally final (got my ass shot off, tho.....) and that has taken a lot of my time.
In any case, let me update........ I just got done with my 14 week second cycle which consisted of the following:
WEEKS 1-14
1-12 Test Cyp 400 mg. (200 twice/week)
1-14 Liquidex .5mg every two days
6-14 oxandrolone 25mg. ED (1575 mg. total)
1-14 Liquinolva 10mg.day
1-10 deca 200 mg/week (100 mg twice/week)
1-13 HCG 250 iu EOD
1-14 Vitamin B-6 450mg. ED
1-14 HGH (Jintropin) 2 iu/day (6 on, 1 off)

PCT using Nolva only

I have kept up my nutrition with a lot of protein, but I have not been pounding food to "bulk up". My weight was at 192 pounds max at the end of the cycle and during the two weeks I have been on PCT, my weight has gone down to 185 pounds. I suspect it was mostly water to come off this fast. I like Deca! It made my old joints feel smooth and lubed and it gave me quite a strength boost. Had no problems at all with gyno. The Var was wonderful - it made me real veiny and dropped my bodyfat further down. It tended to upset my stomach unless I took it with food, though.
Weight has stabilized to 186 pounds - I suspect this is close to my genetic max since I didnt get over 200 pounds on the second cycle. Remember I was only 168 pounds before I started AS and HGH. The weight is SOLID - my midsection is trim and lean-looking and I can see veins in my biceps as well.
My current squeeze is as into fitness as I am - I turned her on to HGH and she is taking 1.2 iu/day. She LOVES the fact that her skin is thickening and getting tighter!! She is my age (54) but she looks about 40 - she is a hottie!! I met her in a sushi bar when my daughter was visiting from Arizona - she was with one of my patients who came over to say Hi. Two weeks later, she calls me and asks ME out!! What a great feeling! Being old school, I am not used to being asked out by women. Anyway, we have been inseparable since then - she loves the body that I have worked on so hard.
Well, enough about my sex life - but I remain a staunch advocate of HGH (and intelligent use of AS). I will try to get pics up - also if you want to see my squeeze, I will post some of her too...... you perverts!
Best to you all,
DOD

***xxx*** · 04-15-2005, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by Duck of Death

...... you perverts!
Best to you all,
DOD

got me there

good to here from u bro! sound slike everything is working out for u, besides ur divorce...

**Duck of Death** · 05-08-2005, 05:34 PM

...OK..here is a pic of me and her on our recent trip to California......
Whaddaya think?

**johnsomebody** · 05-13-2005, 11:58 PM

Omigod, she's gorgeous!! Even with her eyes covered.

**mfiver** · 05-27-2005, 05:33 PM

she's 54?!!!! Wow. Congratulations to you both.

My wife would be interested in her GH diary. Can you get her to start a thread?

Great posts, Duck. Keep it up.

**Duck of Death** · 05-30-2005, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by mfiver

she's 54?!!!! Wow. Congratulations to you both.

My wife would be interested in her GH diary. Can you get her to start a thread?

Great posts, Duck. Keep it up.

...Hey, Thanks, Mfiver and Johnsomebody. I dunno about getting her to start a thread, because I have not discussed my usage of AS with her as of yet, and I may never do that. I will "interview" her periodically, and report to you her comments. She has noticed her skin improving and getting smoother - I have as well! This effect of HGH is one of the first things I noticed, as well.

**duke911** · 05-31-2005, 09:30 AM

Just wanted to say thanks to DOD. This is a great post. Just the info I have been looking for. Just had a question... Are you still using one of the anti-aging clinics online for your hgh? And are you satisified with them? There seems to be quite a few and the price ranges are quite different from one to the next. If I decided to try a local physician for a script, would I have to see a specialist and if so, which one? OK... Guess I had a few questions. Thanks and try to keep us posted on your gal friend. My wife would be very interested in her results as well.

***xxx*** · 07-28-2005, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by Duck of Death

...OK..here is a pic of me and her on our recent trip to California......
Whaddaya think?

good job DoD

RA · 07-28-2005, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by buff87

Very good read so far Duck...

Being mid thirties myself I have seriously considered HGH, but

have not decided to commit so much $$$ to it yet... But threads

like this have me really thinking about it...

Keep us updated bro...

Im in the same boat. Been looking hard at it but the cost is high.

**Triposinator** · 01-12-2006, 05:57 AM

It beats the alternative by a long ways though

Originally Posted by znak

Getting old sucks!

**ADAM BRITTEN** · 02-18-2006, 03:15 PM

I am a new member....great thread...I think it is all more primitive here in UK...but he have been doing Somatropin 4 i.u.s and Sustananon 250..but not as high a dose as your cyp.I have had good results...in all departments..I am by the way 60.And just been through a divorce and having a great experience reinventing my physical shape.Thanks Duck for your story

**The Moose** · 03-01-2006, 09:53 PM

Excellent thread! Just finished reading the whole thing, I would love to see some before and after pics, I'm 21 and looking at starting a cycle of HGH and Sustanon 250 to gain some quality lean mass and trim down a bit, plan on working my way up to 4 I.U's 5 days on 2 days off for 6 months. Currently on a cycle of Deca doing 750mg per week and have gained about 30 pounds in the last 4 months with that and Winny. Congrats on your progress! Again, I've got to say what an excellent read this was!

**kesam1** · 05-22-2006, 09:23 AM

Great post, having a really hard time finding the hgh in UK but considering getting it sorted in Thailand at an anti ageing clinic, Any UK members in the same boat. Duck waht can I say man you look great and an insperation to us all, many thanks for the time you put into this.

**Vegas1973** · 06-26-2006, 11:16 PM

this is good stuff. I hope DOD adds an update. But it seems its been a while since he was last posting in this thread.

**manc** · 12-02-2006, 05:02 PM

come on duck...where are ya? great thread

**MajorPain** · 12-07-2006, 07:07 PM

DOD you have all of us over 40 hanging on this thread for inspiration. I'll keep checking back for updates. Thanks for all the info.

**TheAccountant** · 12-29-2006, 01:11 AM

I will keep reading your log, seems like you finally got your niche!! Good luck

Originally Posted by Duck of Death

Hi folks!! Being a newbie to AR, I have gained a LOT of useful information so far by perusing the educational threads and other posts before I decided to embark on the following journey..... I hopw this will help other who have a similar situation to mine!
I am a male health care professional and am currently 53 years old. My stats are: height 6' 0", weight 170 lbs. I have been health and fitness conscious all my life and have lifted weights since about the age of 21. I competed in a masters bodybuilding competition at the age of 42 (on a dare from my then-wife), and had a ball doing it. However, I am very ectomorphic and have always had a hard time with heavy weights and gaining any weight myself (got ripped like a rabbit for the competition, tho.....). Since I passed 50, my energy levels dropped like a rock and my time in the gym was even harder. I didn't make any significant progress poundage-wise or shape-wise for years. As a matter of fact, I started growing a layer of fat around my waist that just would NOT come off no matter how hard I dieted or cardioed.
The long and short of it is, I got sick of going steadily downhill and began to do some research on this board and other sources. After some thought, I decided to start injections of Saizen HGH every morning (six on, one off) at 1.5iu. I know I should probably consider AS (especially test), but I am a little concerned about the natural test shut-down and I think that HGH has the lowest incidence of sides, especially at this level.
ANYWAY, My results so far are as follows:
Week One: Nuttin. (didnt expect anything)
Week two: Nuttin.
Week three: Hmm...... started to sleep MUCH better and energy levels went up significantly. Looked forward to hitting the gym (Four times/week). Eating better, too!
Week Four: Studied myself in the mirror...... started to see increase in vascularity.....pants fitting looser!
Week Five: This stuff is for REAL!! I am making poundage and/or rep increases EVERY TIME I hit the gym and am lifting more now than I did when I was in my late thirties! I KNOW it shouldnt happen this quick but it can't be psychological after this many times!
Week six: The definition I had in my thirties is starting to return and I am THRILLED! Just thirty minutes of cardio 3X week. Sleeping like a baby now and my energy levels are great! Getting more work done at work and at the gym. Have to make a conscious effort now not to overtrain - I can't wait to hit the weights now!
I will post some more in weeks to come - I know that this dosage seems awfully small and the time is very short but this is honestly how the HGH has affected me. I'll be goddammed if I'll give this stuff up if these results continue! A side note - while working out the other day one of the girls who works at the gym approached me and chatted me up. She is 38 and in great shape herself. We have a DATE on friday!! HOOAHH!
I'll post some pictures soon of my before and current pics. Please don't rip on me too hard, I know I'll never be huge especially at my age but I am just going for the ripped and fit look!
HGH RULES!!!

**jbarkley** · 12-29-2006, 08:04 PM

Good job Duck, I'm 48 and started hgh a little over a year ago, some of my buddies suggested I start on it after I went through chemotherapy in the spring of 2005. I went to this preventive medicine clinic and they started me on hgh and Testosterone therapy , OMG what a difference it's made!!! I haven't even had a cold since starting. This stuff is for real!

Livestrong....

**Tesla** · 01-02-2007, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Duck of Death

.....Man, I thought this thread would get a lot more input, especially from the over 30 crowd and those who are just doing a first cycle, with or without HGH. Do any of you bros have similar or different experiences to mine?? The more input and discussion we have between us, the better we will understand the results we can get. My feeling is that this "augmentation" regimen is different when we get past 30, but that is a gut feeling.

I'm actually following this thread closely. I'm 32 and really starting to notice some things changing...and not necessarily for the better. I'm new to HGH and trying to learn all I can.