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    Hcg

    Thanks Dude a lot of good info

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    i think the hcg powder storage temperature mentioned in the first post is not accurate. it seems that storage temperature depends on the brand of hcg.
    the manual i got with my pregnyl says it must be stored at 2-8C not 15-30. most people buy their pregnyl online and get spoiled product.
    however the manual with hcg produced by some swiss company(not pregnyl) required storage below 25C and avoid freezing.

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    Thanks for the great info, helped me a lot.

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    hi everyone ı m in the middle of my 10 weeks cycle and ı take 375 mg Deca and 400 mg T-max(tes.pehnylpropionate 100mg-tes.cypionate -100mg-tes.isohexonate 100mg-tes.decaonate 100mg) once a week.ı m plannig to use hcg right 7 days after my cycle finished and do it 3 times in 21 days and dosage is 5000 ui.would it work for me and should ı support it with tamoxifen cuz there s no any gynocaomastia sings....would some expert help me with this about hcg cycle and dosage and nolvadex dosage if needed thanks regards.....

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    Dangit, no one seems to be able to agree about stuff.

    How does 250 ius every 4 days for an entire 12 week test prop cycle sound, starting on day 1? Is that too long to run HCG ? It seems to me like preventing testicular atrophy would be better than restoring it later. Would be taking Arimidex .25mg EOD as well, so hopefully that would prevent gyno.

    Then just Clomid and Nolva PCT, no HCG after the cycle.

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    can HCG and Clomid be used together at the same time.. To raise sperm count?

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    Solid thread. Thank you for the info!

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    I've gotten mixed messages from different places. I got this bulking cycle stack off a prominent steroids site and have been researching it and everything seems to be legit except how it tells me to take the HCG . It says to start injections at the beginning of the cycle and do it throughout, along with an additional 2 weeks after the cycle. Here's the stack.


    Week 1 to 16: .5mg of armidex EOD
    Week 1 to 12: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day
    Week 1 to 6: 30mg of D-bol ED
    Week 1 to 10: 750mg of Test E 375/2x weekly
    Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy

    I'm guessing the purpose of the HCG along with the D-bol is to jump start my test until the test E kicks in but honestly I'm not 100% sure and would like a bit of guidance if possible. Thanks for all the help guys, I wouldn't be comfortable juicing if it wasn't for this place.

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    There's an ongoing trend around here lately that shows people advising to take an AI and HCG throughout the cycle for the sake of taking them whether they need them or not. Well, trends change, so watch out what people around here tell you, they're just covering their own backs.

    I would say unless you're running some nandrolon,e which you aren't, (nandrolone known to drop the natural test production 100% within days), then only take hcg at the last 4 weeks of the cycle running up to pct. And keep AI at hand for only when you need it. I'd also add nolva to your pct along with the clomid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acidking View Post
    There's an ongoing trend around here lately that shows people advising to take an AI and HCG throughout the cycle for the sake of taking them whether they need them or not. Well, trends change, so watch out what people around here tell you, they're just covering their own backs.

    I would say unless you're running some nandrolon,e which you aren't, (nandrolone known to drop the natural test production 100% within days), then only take hcg at the last 4 weeks of the cycle running up to pct. And keep AI at hand for only when you need it. I'd also add nolva to your pct along with the clomid.

    So you recommend HCG from week 6-13 (until I start clomid)? Also, would I then start nok a with clomid or??? I imagine I would be taking clomid at 100mg for 10 days then 50mg for 10 days but I can't remember the dose for Nolva...I think it was something like a 40/20 split...I'll have to look again. Thanks for the help, I'm going to keep looking for info but what you're saying makes a bit more sense to me than the other info I've gotten this far.

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    Yep, read around more, I am not saying take my word for it, but as I remember when I was researching for my cycles almost over 2 years ago, no one would say take hcg throughout the cycle (although hcg wouldn't hurt), or ai throughout the cycle (may or may not hurt), so trends do change.

    Yes, clomid 100mg the first week, ideally:
    Nolva : 40/20/20/20
    Clomid : 100/50/50/50

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    Quote Originally Posted by acidking View Post
    Yep, read around more, I am not saying take my word for it, but as I remember when I was researching for my cycles almost over 2 years ago, no one would say take hcg throughout the cycle (although hcg wouldn't hurt), or ai throughout the cycle (may or may not hurt), so trends do change.

    Yes, clomid 100mg the first week, ideally:
    Nolva : 40/20/20/20
    Clomid : 100/50/50/50
    Yeah, that's what I recall seeing on these boards a lot in terms of dosing. Thanks a lot for the help man.

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    I am planning a 16 week sustanon cycle in May. 1cc @ 350mg every mon and thur. I have Dex for on cycle and Clomid/Nolva for pct. When should I start hcg and how long can I run ? Any suggestions would be great.
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    if i wanted to take 250 iu from a 500 per ml mix ,with u-100 type syringe,i extract 50iu to the syringe,correct?

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    Thank you for keeping this thread alive, information was appreciated.

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    Really good post, but didnt get this part:

    6)What should hcg be used for?
    Hcg is commonly used by bodybuilders on either very heavy or very long cycles, when the hpta gets severely suppressed. Although hcg can be used in almost any cycle, the benefits are most pronounced on heavy/long ones.

    8)Can I use hcg only for Pct?
    No you shouldn't. It is better than nothing, but clomid or nolva are far better plans. Since hcg mimics lh, your body wont begin producing its own lh, as it sees no need to because test levels are high. You stop the hcg, your balls stop making test until your body begins producing adequate levels of its own lh, and that may take a while if you don't use clomid or nolvadex to stimulate lh production. The use of Clomid or Nolvadex should also be continued at least 2 weeks after hcg is discontinued to avoid the hcg causing problems.
    Okay its commonly used on heavy or very long cycles but... is it a must? Lets say.. a must on a test E only cycle?

    The other thing i dont get... you use hcg to recover testosterone production but at the same time you depend on hcg to produce LH because when you stop using it you dont produce LH by yourself therefore no test again, so... whats the point?

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    You don't use HCG to recover testosterone production, HCG only relives the symptoms of testicular atrophy, such as balls shrinking in size and a painful sack due to them shutting down during an onset of a cycle of synthetic hormones and testosterone, HCG will not force the balls to continue to produce testosterone when you start taking steroids .

    Whether heave or light, long or short cycles, E only or others, HCG is recommended.

    As I imagine it, and I am not an expert, but I believe using HCG through out the cycle will eventually help recovering your natural production sooner post cycle and PCT in order to help hold on to your gains.
    Last edited by acidking; 06-18-2013 at 12:45 PM.

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    So a number of people have recommended the use of HCG throughout my entire 1st cycle as shown below

    CYCLE
    - Test E 250mg twice weekly for 10 weeks
    - Arimidex 0.25mg EOD ending 3 days prior to PCT
    - HCG 250iu twice weekly taken the day before each Test injection and also ending 3 days prior to PCT
    - Nolvadex not taken full cycle but available if gyn symptoms occur as well as extra Arimidex.

    PCT
    - Start 2 weeks following last Test E injection
    - Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
    - Clomid 100/50/50/50

    Does this recommended HCG dosage and duration of use seem like the most beneficial way to work HCG into my first cycle?

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    Can you help me with mixing. I suck at this and want to get it right.
    I just bought 1000iu vials. If I mix 4 ml of bac water in it will 10 units (.1ml)equal 250iu? My goal is to inject 250iu 2/week when I start my next cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz88 View Post
    Can you help me with mixing. I suck at this and want to get it right.
    I just bought 1000iu vials. If I mix 4 ml of bac water in it will 10 units (.1ml)equal 250iu? My goal is to inject 250iu 2/week when I start my next cycle.
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    Lots of info thanks

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    "Unused hcg can be refrigerated and is ok to use within 30 days after the initial mixing."
    So if I get a 5000iu vial and mix it with 5ml bacteriostatic water, it gives me 1000iu per ml. I want to inject 250iu twice weekly = 500iu/per week and it will last 10 weeks , so in a 1ml(1cc) slin syringe it would be on the 25 mark right ?
    SO my question is .... if its ok to use only within 30 days ...how am I supposed to take it for 10 weeks ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smile View Post
    "Unused hcg can be refrigerated and is ok to use within 30 days after the initial mixing."
    So if I get a 5000iu vial and mix it with 5ml bacteriostatic water, it gives me 1000iu per ml. I want to inject 250iu twice weekly = 500iu/per week and it will last 10 weeks , so in a 1ml(1cc) slin syringe it would be on the 25 mark right ?
    SO my question is .... if its ok to use only within 30 days ...how am I supposed to take it for 10 weeks ?
    Austinite stated in her article hcg manufactured from compound lab would be good for up to 90 days. Think It should be stored in fridge inside a dark container to avoid light which weakens potency. When i was first prescribed hcg some years back i was told it was good for 10 weeks. Later i read it was only good for thirty days and bought only 2,000iu bottles. Then Austinite stated up to 90 days which makes purchasing and not wasting easier. I would imagine there are other companies beside the compound labs that would last that long, but it was prob stated that way to be on safe side as there are companies that make less quality, underdosed and even fake hcg. I have had fake. Don't want to search the article right now but for some reason i think after 60 days it starts losing potency even when storage and handling are done properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyDoesIt View Post
    Austinite stated in her article hcg manufactured from compound lab would be good for up to 90 days. Think It should be stored in fridge inside a dark container to avoid light which weakens potency. When i was first prescribed hcg some years back i was told it was good for 10 weeks. Later i read it was only good for thirty days and bought only 2,000iu bottles. Then Austinite stated up to 90 days which makes purchasing and not wasting easier. I would imagine there are other companies beside the compound labs that would last that long, but it was prob stated that way to be on safe side as there are companies that make less quality, underdosed and even fake hcg. I have had fake. Don't want to search the article right now but for some reason i think after 60 days it starts losing potency even when storage and handling are done properly.
    Ok thanks, if I can get 3 vials of 2000iu it would be better than 1 vial of 5000iu. and if I can't 5000iu is still good to go .

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    Quote Originally Posted by smile View Post
    Ok thanks, if I can get 3 vials of 2000iu it would be better than 1 vial of 5000iu. and if I can't 5000iu is still good to go .
    Yup! Older protocols for hcg were larger doses and used to start pct, but modern medicine states better protocols, so 5,000 and 10,000 iu bottles were used more readily. But it's cheaper to go with the 5,000 so you can go with 5,000. Since new info i go for 5,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyDoesIt View Post
    Yup! Older protocols for hcg were larger doses and used to start pct, but modern medicine states better protocols, so 5,000 and 10,000 iu bottles were used more readily. But it's cheaper to go with the 5,000 so you can go with 5,000. Since new info i go for 5,000.
    Yeah it is cheaper and since its g2g might as well got with it Thanks!

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    I'm just wondering how much HCG is smart to buy for a 12 week cycle. Going by 250iu x 2 a week gives me a total of 6000iu for the cycle. I'm just wondering if it would be wise to buy more than that?

    I'm not 100% on the quantities you have to buy it in anyway. Maybe i need to buy 10,000 iu anyway. Thanx!

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    I think 6000 would be enough. As you said 250 twice a week. Most of the time HCG comes in batches of 5000 iu, so you might have to buy 10000 anyway.

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    Yeah that's what i thought, cheers.

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    Hello guys,

    I just start my 1st Cycle.

    50mg Dianabol / day
    2ml Test / week ( Monday 1ml and Thursday 1ml)
    2ml Tri Trenbolone 150 ( Monday 1ml and Thursday 1ml)

    all for next 8 weeks. (just dianabol i`ll stop it after six weeks)

    My Q is, Is better to start with pregnyl now ? Like 200-300ui / week ? Someone told me No ,just 1 x 5000ui after I finish my cycle...

    Many thanks for all answers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hight View Post
    My Q is, Is better to start with pregnyl now ? Like 200-300ui / week ? Someone told me No ,just 1 x 5000ui after I finish my cycle...
    Whoever told you that is retarded. HCG is to be run during the cycle, in fact I read somewhere even better to start it 2 weeks before the cycle starts. Also, it's 250iu twice a week, at least.

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    If anyone can help answer this I would really appreciate it. 4000 IUS, 1ML, .3ml slin pin. How much is each tick? I want to ensure I am dosing correctly. Great write up!

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    My partner was taking trenbolone and now that had finished he's injecting pregnyl one every 5 days and he's says he has to do this 3 times so 15 days. He then says he will take tamoxifen for a month.
    The thing is while he was on the steroids he became angry and I mean really Angry. He's been really out of character even now they are finished and he's taking the pregnyl(only one dose another due probably tomorrow). Anyway he says he's not thinking straight and after 17 years together he had finished with me. This it out of the blue but I can't blame what he's been taking as he may have done it anyway. But I have read lots about people changing being angry etc....... The reason I'm posing on here is because I want advice. Is it common to still be aggressive not thinking he straight not knowing what he wants while using pregnyl for PCT and how long could it be before his system goes back to normal??
    This is his first time on steroids and says he's never doing it again as they are not for him.
    Your advice would be appreciated

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    I ordered a 10,000 iu kit because they were out of 5,000.my question is if I mix it up and use it over a 5 month period do I need to refrigerate before or after 90 days ?
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    Why does this thread advocate using it as a PCT, when the majority of the info I have been reading said to only use it on cycle and stop afterwards? Very confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackfrost88 View Post
    Why does this thread advocate using it as a PCT, when the majority of the info I have been reading said to only use it on cycle and stop afterwards? Very confusing.
    It revitalizes the testicles, albeit artificially, however, it also suppresses the NATURAL production of test, which is the main purpose of PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackfrost88
    Why does this thread advocate using it as a PCT, when the majority of the info I have been reading said to only use it on cycle and stop afterwards? Very confusing.
    Because this thread is 8 years old and things change over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Because this thread is 8 years old and things change over time.
    Thanks didn't the post date. Maybe someone should update it or remove it because the info is the opposite of what people advocate now haha

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    Hello,

    Since this is a new thing for me, so far I am scared as hell to use hCG . I know its needed and will help me significantly. You should see my list of things to keep me on point, or my hormones in check. As soon as I can I will post my full stack. Just need to get past the 25 postings. I am doing a lot of research and agree,

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    hello,

    i have a question about hcg

    HCG comes with Bacteriostatic Water or just sterile water ?

    is there any kind of HCG that comes with Bacteriostatic Water ? im asking this because i cant find Bacteriostatic Water in my country!

    thanks in advance

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