M1t FAQ

[FamLay]

if you cant get any nolva or clomid you can get 6-oxo for pct bad man

[nsa]

6-oxo or 7-oxo or tribulus won't cut it for pct.

Everyone can get nolvadex and clomid. Click the banner on the top right corner of every page...

[peachy]

6-oxo or 7-oxo or tribulus won't cut it for pct.

Everyone can get nolvadex and clomid. Click the banner on the top right corner of every page...

not so easy if you are in the uk, and dont want to give your goodies to the customs man.. things are pretty tight around the us now.

if any one can help on that front then let me know, otherwise its 6-oxo for me. (and crossed fingers, although it looks like im lumbered with oral 4ad anyway which is alledgedly less potent)

this wa sthe best i could manage, although ive noticed i can get my hands on the transdermal 4ad, so am trying to have my order amended.
will let you know how i get on with the pct as is.. also have tribulus knocking around here somewhere.

was planning a 4 week cycle, 196pounds 6'3" very low bodyfat. play a lot of hoops though so schedule will have to allow for at least 3 x 2 hour sessions a week of balling, hopefully that wont screw with any gains too badly...

Legal Gear Methyl 4AD+
Underground Labs Methyl 1 Test
Reflex Milk Thistle (90 Caps)
Ergopharm 6 OXO

[nsa]

I wouldn't even do a cycle if i didn't have proper pct ancillaries. Considering most still lose some muscle mass with correct pct, due to diet and training or lack there of. You will lose most of the gains you make from the actually cycle.

[peachy]

hence im still at the planning stage, in the meantime jsut been on the phone to supplier who has kindly upgraded my order to the transdermal, and thrown in a bunch of stuff ( imade quite a large order to cover a few potential cycles ) (anyone else in the uk i would be happy to receommend discount supplements)..

reason i was asking as im reading a lot of 6-oxo wont do comments, but no alternatives being given for us poor sods in the uk.
will obviously hold off actually runnig a cycle until everything is in place, although everyone over here seems to think 6-oxo is fine.. so im getting conflicting reports, as im well aware that the opinion on this board differs... I will however be erring on the side of caution, and not proceeding until everyone is happy with my choice =]

forgot to mention its the Legal Gear LGP 4-AD+ transdermal which is supposed to help prevent aromatisation.

[nsa]

hence im still at the planning stage, in the meantime jsut been on the phone to supplier who has kindly upgraded my order to the transdermal, and thrown in a bunch of stuff ( imade quite a large order to cover a few potential cycles ) (anyone else in the uk i would be happy to receommend discount supplements)..

reason i was asking as im reading a lot of 6-oxo wont do comments, but no alternatives being given for us poor sods in the uk.
will obviously hold off actually runnig a cycle until everything is in place, although everyone over here seems to think 6-oxo is fine.. so im getting conflicting reports, as im well aware that the opinion on this board differs... I will however be erring on the side of caution, and not proceeding until everyone is happy with my choice =]

forgot to mention its the Legal Gear LGP 4-AD+ transdermal which is supposed to help prevent aromatisation.

Legal Gear LGP 4-AD+ transdermal will not help prevent aromatization, as it should be the only compound in an m1t/4-ad stack that could possibly aromatize to estrogen.

[nsa]

And i know people who have ordered pct ancillaries from internet sites, like the one on the top of the page here, and have not had their order seized by customs. I know people from both the US and UK...

[peachy]

well im going to have to rely on that, as am completely unable to source any here..

still hunting..

[peachy]

its also rather a lot cheaper than the 90 quid (us equivalent 180$) ive just spent on 6-oxo =]

[DustinLati]

I know NSA said not to take ECA while on this stack, but what about ripped fuel? Is it an ECA, or would it be ok to take (2 pills before a workout for added engery)?

[nsa]

I know NSA said not to take ECA while on this stack, but what about ripped fuel? Is it an ECA, or would it be ok to take (2 pills before a workout for added engery)?

You can take ECA or another fat burner while on M1T but i wouldn't do m1t while trying to cut carbs. You need to keep your carb intake up to help with the lethargy, as m1t effects your blood-sugar levels along with the normal lethargy from lower testosterone levels . Also you will want to monitor your BP while on any kind of stimulant while using m1t.

Main point: It is ok to take something to increase energy while on m1t, while monitoring BP. And don't try to cut while using m1t, as it is a bulking steroid and doesn't fair well with decreased carb intake.

[peachy]

right have found a source it seems @ the following prices:

Clomid (Clomiphene citrate) 10 x 50mg Tabs Price: £ 10.00 € 15.00
Nolvadex -D ( Tamoxifen ) 30 x 20mg tabs Price: £ 35.00 € 52.50

too much?
also why nolva + chlomid if they essentially do the same thing, (i consider myself pre-flamed for asking that =])

and should i really have hcg to hand as well?

[Syndicate]

If you were to search you would find:

http://forums.steroid.com/search.php?searchid=1163406

Then you would click on:

Pheedno's PCT

[Darkness]

Is the 1fast400 still the best M1T? I did it over the summer and gained 22lbs and lost 7 on PCT, but now I wanna jump back into it and would like to know if those $10 bottles are what I should get, I know there are places that sell'em for $50-$100 but its basically the same crap right?

Thanks

[WISHMASTER]

Ok guys dont flame me for asking....and I know that you will probably tell me that what I did was bad but the damage if any has already been done.

I stay on my cycle of M1T for 7 weeks along with all the other supps that I take and followed NSA's cycle including the trib and all. My nads didnt shrink down any futher than when I did a cycle of S1+ a while back. I credit that to the trib. I maxed out on my weight at 22lbs and I dont look like Im carrying alot of water but Im sure some of it is.

I started my PCT lastnight and I have a question. Seeing that I did 7 weeks does the dosage change? I front loaded my clomid with 300ml... and did 40ml. of nolva. Should I take the Clomid past the 21 days?

ALso I take both my clomi and nolva at night almost before bed. Is that Ok or should I take during the day?

thanks guys! and remember no bashing me...LOL!

[kingspade213]

why wont 6 OXO be effective for a pct? (looks at NSA)

[Soldier of Misfortune]

This has been said on here several times. Simply because 6oxo sucks.

Darkness--yeah, get your M1T from 1fast400. All M1T is the same and the ppl who are charging $100 for it are just milking the impending ban. I have enough supplies for another cycle of M1T before going to the dark side. But wait...when I do my second M1T it will be legally be considered the dark side. I am already crossed over and dont know it.

Anyway, I just started PCT today and I gained a solid 10lbs of muscle, considerable size and density gains, and strength is through the roof compared to before. Im trying to hook up a digital camera for pics.

[Darkness]

Cool, thanks. Now I need a new source for my clo/nol cause my last research place doesnt sell it anymore...shame cause it was cheap and the liquid kind!

[WISHMASTER]

any idea?

[WISHMASTER]

ok thanks!....LOL

[peachy]

and to double check, going to check wether the advertiser on this site will deliver to uk,

so im after
Clomi 70mL 35mg/mL [assuming this is chlomid?]
Tamox 50 ML 20mg/ml [assuming this is the correct nolvadex ?]

and these are oral not intravenous presumably, wasn't expecting liquids.

[wired-up]

and these are oral not intravenous presumably, wasn't expecting liquids.

yes they are oral and yes it's clomid and nolva.

[DustinLati]

does anybody know whats wrong with i b e l a b s . n e t? I ordered my PCT from them 3 weeks ago, and it never showed. Now their website doesnt work

[syncere]

PCT top right corner.

[Tbol]

I am on my 9th day of m1t at 20mg per day and I REALLY do not like the side effects.
I am tired,my mood is not good,my libido is gone and I feel and look fatter than ever. I weight 260 and I am 6'2

I would say at least 30 pounds of fat on my body. I also have been getting little twinges under my right rib cage (where the liver is)
so I am thinking about just quitting. I have read what everyone here says about clomid and nova for pct.

I have spent 10 hours researching this stuff. I already bought a bottle of 60 pills of 60x0 or 3,16,17, androstentrione with 5,7 Chrysin

my question is since money is tight and I already got burned for $ 50 bucks for the 6oxo would it work in terms of getting my system back to normal since I have been on this less then two weeks. I really hate the idea of getting clomid when I will never take this stuff again

all replies appreciated

[Syndicate]

Your health should be priceless.

-Syn

[Red Monster]

20mg a day is double dose... unwise. You could try cutting the dose down to 10mg at the very least plus 1000mg of Milk Thistle. You have both your liver and your nuts to worry about.

[Nevergoodenough]

Should m1t and trans 4Ad be applied before or after the workout?

[peachy]

have started a diary of my first cycle which updates every single day, should prove an interesting insight to anyone considering starting a cycle for the first time.
i also invite comments from more experienced users.

its here:
http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=136435

[Red Monster]

I followed the FAQ to the letter and went from 166.6 to 180.6 in 30 days.

[nsa]

I followed the FAQ to the letter and went from 166.6 to 180.6 in 30 days.

Good job. That sample cycle is what i did my first few cycles with m1t, so it is sure to put muscle mass on you and if you do pct correctly you should maintain almost all of the muscle.

[kingspade213]

nsa im 5-8 150pds and am going on a the cycle of m1t you recomend. my questions are how many calories, carbs and grams of protien should i be consuming each day? and also would it be to my advantage to stack 1ad with the cycle you wrote up?

[mikeh9046]

nsa, im not sure if your familar with the anaboics equa bolin and test 250 (both pill form). i am going on the cycle of m1t. i have a cycle of equi bolin nd test 250 can i stack. or when is the best time to take these if i want to go on m1t first

[nsa]

You don't add anything really powerful to the stack by adding 1-ad to it. And go to the diet forum and read the bulking sticky for the diet advice. Im not going to be around here much til around christmas, i have many finals and lab practicals in the next 2 weeks.

[void]

I will take 10mg of M1T + Legal Gear LGP 4-AD+ (Transdermal) for 4 weeks.
I have 22 years old, 155lb, 8% BF.
I want to take 4Derm, but I have access only to these 2 products.

---
Legal Gear LGP 4-AD+ - Facts:
Serving Size: 2 mL
Servings Per Container: 120
Amount Per Serving:
17a-Methyl-4-Androstene-3, 17b-diol 4.2mg
4-Androstene-4, 17b-ol-3-one 25mg
4-Androstene-3, 17b-diol 50mg
---

I know there is 2 methylated compounds in this stack..

My questions is:
- What LGP 4-AD+ dosage is a good one? (I want to keep my liver ok.. and I dont want 4AD aromatization)

Thanks!

[DustinLati]

ok, i know a lot of people have mentioned that you will feel like $hit while on this cycle, and i just wanted to see if anyone has experienced:

Headaches
Constant nausea
Loss of appetite - Everything i eat, i feel like im going to puke up as well (especially chicken and brown rice)

Im 2 weeks in, and until a couple of days ago I was fine, but now these 3 side effects have made me want to quit my cycle....im not going to of course, but i want to.

So, has anybody else experienced this? Anything i can do about it besides B-12 and goodys?

[Syndicate]

Man up!

J/K, eat alot of carbs to balance your glucose levels. They are low and thats what makes you tired n feel like crap.

[nsa]

ok, i know a lot of people have mentioned that you will feel like $hit while on this cycle, and i just wanted to see if anyone has experienced:

Headaches
Constant nausea
Loss of appetite - Everything i eat, i feel like im going to puke up as well (especially chicken and brown rice)

Im 2 weeks in, and until a couple of days ago I was fine, but now these 3 side effects have made me want to quit my cycle....im not going to of course, but i want to.

So, has anybody else experienced this? Anything i can do about it besides B-12 and goodys?

Hawthorne berry extract for headaches, Increase your carb intake and injectable b-12 for appetite.

[jpjedd]

Nas I copied your cycle+PCT in your orginal post and plan to copy it. This is first cycle was planing to do a sus+deca cycle with Anavar in the last 3 weeks.

But decided to try this first.

Could I do the Anavar with the 4AD+m1t ?

Best to do at the start or at the end as I only have enough of 3 weeks?

[nsa]

two methyl's at once is not good