M1t FAQ

**RedKnight** · 12-17-2004, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by max2extreme

I cant take just one pill a day? I probably shouldn't take (2) 10 mg pills Im assuming? (6'1, 190lbs, age 27) If it IS ok for me to take 1 pill a day, would an hour before workout be best? Would it be ok to take (2) 10mg pills? Or did I waste my money and need to buy 5mg pills?

Thanks for your help all..

Just cut the 10mg pill in half. Take half in the morning and half at night.

**max2extreme** · 12-17-2004, 12:12 PM

They are capsules if I remember right...you think I can just separate the capsule and take half of it??

**RedKnight** · 12-17-2004, 04:24 PM

Capsules change things a bit. You can buy your own empty caps, but that is a pain in the a$$. Honestly, I would just buy some Underground Labs. At only 10 bucks a bottle it would save you a lot of time. And 1 bottle should be good for your whole cycle.

**ash146** · 12-17-2004, 05:33 PM

guys i need some help ... i've already done a prohormone cycle with S1+ with good results however i'm feeling to go with m1t this time around. I've read NSA sample cycle but how much should i be taking? i'm 5'7, 163, have been lifting serioulsy now for 5 years. diet wise, ive worked with SC so his swoledup diet is working wonders i just want to push the envelope some more.

**Farhan** · 12-17-2004, 06:41 PM

I live and canada and i can get my hands on some m1t
My question is what do i have to take it with?
I have Creatine and Tribex 500 at home
I can get milk thistle and Clomid
How should i cycle it, what should i take with my cycle and how much of it?
I read some of the topics about m1t however im still not too familiar with this
thanx

**nsa** · 12-17-2004, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Farhan

I live and canada and i can get my hands on some m1t
My question is what do i have to take it with?
I have Creatine and Tribex 500 at home
I can get milk thistle and Clomid
How should i cycle it, what should i take with my cycle and how much of it?
I read some of the topics about m1t however im still not too familiar with this
thanx

Read the original post...

**nsa** · 12-17-2004, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by ash146

guys i need some help ... i've already done a prohormone cycle with S1+ with good results however i'm feeling to go with m1t this time around. I've read NSA sample cycle but how much should i be taking? i'm 5'7, 163, have been lifting serioulsy now for 5 years. diet wise, ive worked with SC so his swoledup diet is working wonders i just want to push the envelope some more.

10 mg's each day is all you need.

**ash146** · 12-17-2004, 09:04 PM

i'm on ar-r .com ... i see "clomi" listed for 45. is that oral or injectable? also where on the site should i bee seeing nolva?

**Farhan** · 12-17-2004, 09:05 PM

Read the original post...

i did, however i said i am limited to supplements since i live in canada therefore i listed what i have and am asking how i should cycle it

**nsa** · 12-17-2004, 09:07 PM

You need some sort of testosterone or pre-cursor to testosterone. If you can't get that than i wouldn't do m1t.

**ash146** · 12-17-2004, 09:07 PM

dude i live in canada as well. you have to look extra hard for it. you can always try these research sites however the only thing you'll have ot do is cross your fingers when it comes to customs.

**Farhan** · 12-17-2004, 09:09 PM

isent tribex 500 good enough for testosterone ?

**ash146** · 12-17-2004, 09:10 PM

should i be looking tamox for my answer?

**nsa** · 12-17-2004, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Farhan

isent tribex 500 good enough for testosterone?

No, its not. Thats not testosterone , its tribulus terrestris and aveena sativa.

**ash146** · 12-17-2004, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Farhan

isent tribex 500 good enough for testosterone?

nope. it's good for the sex drive and can raise your testosterone but not at the levels you could be with m1t

**Farhan** · 12-17-2004, 09:12 PM

soo your saying take it with 4 ad?
how about 1 ad?

**nsa** · 12-17-2004, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by ash146

should i be looking tamox for my answer?

Thats nolvadex . You need nolvadex and clomid for pct. Clomid = Clomiphene citrate.

**nsa** · 12-17-2004, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Farhan

soo your saying take it with 4 ad?
how about 1 ad?

1-ad is not a pre-cursor to testosterone . 1-ad converts to 1-test.

**Saleensrule** · 12-17-2004, 09:14 PM

I'm going to be taking this sample cycle of M1t:

Weeks 1-4: 10 mg ED of M1t
Weeks 1-4: 400 mg ED of transdermal 4-ad
Weeks 1-4: 1500 mg ED of hawthorne berry extract

PCT:
Weeks 5-8: 40 mg ED of Nolvadex for the first two weeks, Then down to 20 mg ED of Nolvadex
Weeks 5-8: Clomid Therapy, 300 mg of clomid first day, 100 mg of clomid next 10 days, 50 mg of clomid for final 10 days of clomid therapy.
Weeks 5-8: Milk Thistle 1000 mg of milk thistle ED

My first question is should I be using letro also either during the cycle or for PCT? If so how much and how long?

Second question if I wanna use clen during my PCT how much of the liquid should I take and how long ?

Thanks in advance for any help

**ash146** · 12-17-2004, 09:15 PM

sweet. thanks NSA!!!

**ash146** · 12-17-2004, 09:25 PM

hmmm nsa, i'm how much of each tamox and clomi should i get for one cycle? i'm think one each?

**nsa** · 12-17-2004, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by ash146

hmmm nsa, i'm how much of each tamox and clomi should i get for one cycle? i'm think one each?

Just add up the mg's for all the days of pct and thats how much you will need for each.

**nsa** · 12-17-2004, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Saleensrule

I'm going to be taking this sample cycle of M1t:

Weeks 1-4: 10 mg ED of M1t
Weeks 1-4: 400 mg ED of transdermal 4-ad
Weeks 1-4: 1500 mg ED of hawthorne berry extract

PCT:
Weeks 5-8: 40 mg ED of Nolvadex for the first two weeks, Then down to 20 mg ED of Nolvadex
Weeks 5-8: Clomid Therapy, 300 mg of clomid first day, 100 mg of clomid next 10 days, 50 mg of clomid for final 10 days of clomid therapy.
Weeks 5-8: Milk Thistle 1000 mg of milk thistle ED

My first question is should I be using letro also either during the cycle or for PCT? If so how much and how long?

Second question if I wanna use clen during my PCT how much of the liquid should I take and how long ?

Thanks in advance for any help

Letro is a good idea if your very prone to gyno, its not absolutely neccessary for this cycle though. The chances of getting a case of gyno from 4-ad is not likely.

Most people do fine with starting around 20-40 mcg ED, then work their way up to a dose (around 120-140 mcg) that doesn't cause undesired sides.(i.e. shaking)

**Saleensrule** · 12-18-2004, 06:10 AM

ok thanks, but what about clen how much and how often during pct to get ripped

**ash146** · 12-18-2004, 11:15 AM

thanks NSA.... the ones on ar-r , that is the clomi and tamxon, are those oral or injectables? the only reason i ask is that doesnt look like a syringe in the pic and there each one of clomi and tamxon has a their own flavor. I've always thought of orals = pills.

**RedKnight** · 12-18-2004, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by ash146

thanks NSA.... the ones on ar-r, that is the clomi and tamxon, are those oral or injectables? the only reason i ask is that doesnt look like a syringe in the pic and there each one of clomi and tamxon has a their own flavor. I've always thought of orals = pills.

They are orals, not injectibles.

**flexin-rph** · 12-18-2004, 01:02 PM

I'm on my 3rd M1T cycle & I know for sure this feeling of bloatedness is from the M1t...
anyone else get this? I sometimes feel like I could explode!

**nsa** · 12-18-2004, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by flexin-rph

I'm on my 3rd M1T cycle & I know for sure this feeling of bloatedness is from the M1t...
anyone else get this? I sometimes feel like I could explode!

You need to elaborate on the "feeling". If you 'feel like you could explode' when lifting, its just the pumps from m1t and not bloat. If your that concerned about bloat, then run some letro or another AI during the cycle.

**flexin-rph** · 12-18-2004, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by nsa

You need to elaborate on the "feeling". If you 'feel like you could explode' when lifting, its just the pumps from m1t and not bloat. If your that concerned about bloat, then run some letro or another AI during the cycle.

OK, let me re-phrase that. My "bloat" that I am referring to is in my stomach.
I am running nolva 20mg qd...you think letro would be better?

**nsa** · 12-18-2004, 04:16 PM

Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen, letrozol is an aromitase-inhibitor. So an AI would be more effective at curing the estrogen caused bloat, seeing as how it actually inhibits the conversion of testosterone to estrogen. Nolvadex simply binds to the estrogen so they can't bind to estrogen receptors to become active.

**peachy** · 12-18-2004, 04:59 PM

well im onto the third week, and despite taking low doses as reported in my diary thread, (which granted is a few days behind),
ive noticed a tenderness in the nipples today (although no lumps or other swelling), and the centre part seems a little more extended than normal, i may be being paranoid but think its best to crack into the nolvadex , howevever shoulod i keep to the remaining week of the cycle or stop immediately,
i have read elsewhere that stopping the cycle may actually help make things worst...
so do the remaining week whilst started the nolvadex, or just full stop and into full pct?
again its probably nothing, but best be safe, and im not seeing much in the way of gains anyway =]

**peachy** · 12-18-2004, 05:47 PM

may just of been cold, centre bit seems normal now =] and not so tender

the thought of growing t+ts sure does put you on tenderhooks though doesnt it, will check back in the morning.

**nsa** · 12-18-2004, 09:50 PM

I would just start using nolvadex now, continue the cycle and use nolvadex. Also it could be from progesterone instead of nolvadex.

**rymasm** · 12-21-2004, 01:43 PM

thanks to nsa and everyone else that have put some really good info on this thread. Just waiting for my 4derm to get here from ordering it yesterday. i'm gonna start the 8 week cycle from the original post on Monday. i'll keep ya'll updated on how it's going. i am looking for some injectable b12 though because i want my appetite to stay strong. any help please? here's some before pics....hopefully this works...if not i'll try to upload them somewhere else

**ash146** · 12-21-2004, 02:19 PM

i got my 4-derm, dermabolics but i had issues with my order. Anyhow i'm still waiting on my PCT to come in. I finished a cycle of s1+ and gained 6lbs which i kept so I have to wait before I go and run m1t.

**DustinLati** · 12-21-2004, 03:26 PM

Alright, ill be done with my m1t cycle tonight and will take ym first dose of PCT in the morning (I gained ~15 pounds and i love it). Few questions (sorry if they have already been answered)

1. Do i take PCT doses all at once or split them in half and take them 12 hours apart?
2. Im definatly running this again, can i begin my next cycle as soon as I finish PCT or would that be a bad idea for whatever reason?
3. While im on PCT should I keep my calories way up (4,000) like i did while on m1t, or bring them back down to normal bulking level (3,500)?

**rymasm** · 12-21-2004, 03:29 PM

dustin, what did your diet look like for your cycle? lots of chicken, beef, potatoes??? what'd you eat for 4,000 calories?

**nsa** · 12-21-2004, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by DustinLati

Alright, ill be done with my m1t cycle tonight and will take ym first dose of PCT in the morning (I gained ~15 pounds and i love it). Few questions (sorry if they have already been answered)

1. Do i take PCT doses all at once or split them in half and take them 12 hours apart?
2. Im definatly running this again, can i begin my next cycle as soon as I finish PCT or would that be a bad idea for whatever reason?
3. While im on PCT should I keep my calories way up (4,000) like i did while on m1t, or bring them back down to normal bulking level (3,500)?

1. Split it up. You should split up everything you take all the time if you can.
2. Wait a while, give your receptors and hpta time to get back to normal.
3. Keep calories high.

**birtcheh** · 12-21-2004, 04:03 PM

has anyone heard/ tried max m-1-t plus?

**FLHRCI** · 12-23-2004, 08:12 PM

How effective is the 4AD, really? Is it true that its only in your system for 2 hours (see this link http://bodybuilding.com/store/4andro.html ).

Also, about PCT... do I need to wait till the 14th day to start my Novedex... seems like it might be beneficial to start it earlier....?

This is the dosage I am taking on my first cycle of M1T:
10mg M1T 2x/day
500mg Tribulus 4x/day
250mg Milk Thistle 1x/day
150mg Hawthorne 1x/day
Animal Pak: 1pack 2x/day

Starting weight 240# 12/16
Day 7 weight: 247.5# 12/22
Age: 45