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    What dose do you take Reserveratrol at ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    What dose do you take Reserveratrol at ?
    300 mg twice daily, already included in the fish oil gelcaps.
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    Aust - you should buy all these in and assemble your own daily vitamin pack. I know I'd buy! After we discussed AnimalPack and VitaStack in that other thread, it got me thinking that someone should release a proper pack!

    Great overall thread, given me some ideas and tips. Thanks!

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    Very informative! I've been reading You and GD's sup list. I received most in the mail today. I go to the TRT Dr next week along with bloodworm. I was going to wait on starting the proges and DHEA till after bloodwork?? Also do you think the Cia will affect bloodwork. I wanted to get a baseline read. I must say I am very pumped about giving most of these sups a run!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bringndaheat View Post
    Very informative! I've been reading You and GD's sup list. I received most in the mail today. I go to the TRT Dr next week along with bloodworm. I was going to wait on starting the proges and DHEA till after bloodwork?? Also do you think the Cia will affect bloodwork. I wanted to get a baseline read. I must say I am very pumped about giving most of these sups a run!

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    GD's stack is outstanding. I replicated it and developed almost immediate increase in vascularity.

    Cialis is fine with blood work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post
    Aust - you should buy all these in and assemble your own daily vitamin pack. I know I'd buy! After we discussed AnimalPack and VitaStack in that other thread, it got me thinking that someone should release a proper pack!

    Great overall thread, given me some ideas and tips. Thanks!
    ha. Maybe one day. Thanks krugerr!
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    After re-re-re-reading your post, I have a few more questions. Would you mind expanding on the supplements L-Glutamine, CoQ10, horny goat weed, Pycnogenol, and resveratrol? Also, I know you don't take protein powders; but do you take creatine? Last week I just started taking micronized creatine monohydrate, but I wanted your thoughts.
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    Neat idea by Krugger! Call it a Vascularity stack!

    @ bringdaheat: don't take cialis if your BP runs low.
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    Also in regards to vitamin E, I found a powder that is Vitamin E, D-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate. You mentioned that it should be tocopherol (alpha, beta, delta, gamma), so should I not purchase this one? I should purchase a vitamin E supplement that has all the different types of tocopherols? If so, what is the ideal ratio?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    Neat idea by Krugger! Call it a Vascularity stack!
    And all I ask is 10% share holding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballfan22 View Post
    After re-re-re-reading your post, I have a few more questions. Would you mind expanding on the supplements L-Glutamine, CoQ10, horny goat weed, Pycnogenol, and resveratrol? Also, I know you don't take protein powders; but do you take creatine? Last week I just started taking micronized creatine monohydrate, but I wanted your thoughts.
    I will make an update soon to include these. No creatine for me.


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    Neat idea by Krugger! Call it a Vascularity stack!

    @ bringdaheat: don't take cialis if your BP runs low.
    Yes, clialis lowers BP, too low if you already have low BP. I like the Vas Stack name!

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    Also in regards to vitamin E, I found a powder that is Vitamin E, D-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate. You mentioned that it should be tocopherol (alpha, beta, delta, gamma), so should I not purchase this one? I should purchase a vitamin E supplement that has all the different types of tocopherols? If so, what is the ideal ratio?
    Either is fine. If you can't find it it's ok. Lef.org has it but theyre not cheap unless you find it on amazon. E will still work. This is the one I use so you can reference ratios: Gamma E Tocopherol with Sesame Lignans, 60 softgels Just click on supp facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post
    And all I ask is 10% share holding.
    Deal maybe!
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    Okay, thanks. I think there may be a typo in your chart though. The link you provided for the vitamin E supplement says that one capsule contains 45 IU of vitamin E, but your chart says you take 800 IU per day. That means you take 18 capsules per day?!?

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    Can you explain why you don't take creatine too?
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    I would also like to add that puritan.com has very affordable vitamins and minerals. I am not sure how, but some of their capsules even compete with the powders you can buy. They have free shipping and a 10% discount going on now to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballfan22 View Post
    Okay, thanks. I think there may be a typo in your chart though. The link you provided for the vitamin E supplement says that one capsule contains 45 IU of vitamin E, but your chart says you take 800 IU per day. That means you take 18 capsules per day?!?
    lol, no. Vitamin E on the chart (Which I really need to update) is not measured the same. D-alpha tocopherol is 400iu (which is what I used to use) and is good enough to protect fatty acids. Look here: Pure Natural Vitamin E, 400 IU 100 vegetarian capsules

    Only D-Alpha toco is measured in iu, everything else is in mg. The one I used to take was all D-Alpha. I'll update the chart soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballfan22 View Post
    Can you explain why do don't take creatine too?
    Nothing wrong with creatine. I just use other supplements to get the same, or better benefit. I take enough amino acids to produce plenty. Specifically, Arginine, Citrulline and Methionine.

    ps. Original Post has been updated at the bottom. Going to wait on Pycnogenol because I introduced it recently. I'll wait until I have some experience with it.
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    austinite have you ever had an experience with taking any supplements before a workout that causes you to get nauseas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by areichert View Post
    austinite have you ever had an experience with taking any supplements before a workout that causes you to get nauseas?
    Yes.

    10 grams of arginine made me sick.
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    God austinite, if you want to ban me, I would understand. I have wayyyy too many questions, so I am sorry. I have a question on L-citrulline. I know cj111 asked you about L-citrulline vs. citrulline malate already, but I am still confused. I understand that the malic acid may allow it to be absorbed better, but the doses are slightly skewed. Most citrulline malate supplements have a ratio of 2:1 citrulline to malic acid; therefore when taking a gram of citrulline malate, you are actually only taking 666 mg of citrulline. Do you recommend spending the extra six bucks for pure L-citrulline, or save some money on citrulline malate even if that means you will be taking smaller doses? Does the decrease in dosage balance out because it is absorbed better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballfan22 View Post
    God austinite, if you want to ban me, I would understand. I have wayyyy too many questions, so I am sorry. I have a question on L-citrulline. I know cj111 asked you about L-citrulline vs. citrulline malate already, but I am still confused. I understand that the malic acid may allow it to be absorbed better, but the doses are slightly skewed. Most citrulline malate supplements have a ratio of 2:1 citrulline to malic acid; therefore when taking a gram of citrulline malate, you are actually only taking 666 mg of citrulline. Do you recommend spending the extra six bucks for pure L-citrulline, or save some money on citrulline malate even if that means you will be taking smaller doses? Does the decrease in dosage balance out because it is absorbed better?
    lmao. This thread is not here for giggles, it's here so that you and me can ask questions and learn more from it. Keep the questions coming, it actually raised a few questions while researching heavily myself.

    Can you link me to an example of what you're looking at?
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    Maybe thats whats doing it to me, I'm taking Arginine with Citrulline before bed and workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by areichert View Post
    Maybe thats whats doing it to me, I'm taking Arginine with Citrulline before bed and workout.
    What time do you workout and what time do you go to bed?
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    I'll take one every night around 9, since I fall asleep around 10. Mon-Fri I'll I usually hit the gym after work which anywhere from 4-6 PM. Weekends I hit the gym around 9 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by areichert View Post
    I'll take one every night around 9, since I fall asleep around 10. Mon-Fri I'll I usually hit the gym after work which anywhere from 4-6 PM. Weekends I hit the gym around 9 AM.
    I would then use it in the morning and pre-workout. There are other amino acids you could be using post-workout as outlined in the original post.
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    You think Keytones can be sensitive to the stomach as well?

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    Here is the link to the page to a citrulline malate powder.

    Citrulline Malate Powder - 180 grams

    Did you want me to supply links to the articles I am reading on both too? I don't want to hijack your thread and post a bunch of links to outside sources talking about the contrasts. Sadly, I am having trouble coming to my own conclusion on what is better. For every credible (and not credible) source I find favoring one, I find an equally credible (and not credible) source favoring the other one.

    I am finding it slightly difficult to determine which is better between L-cysteine and N-acetyl-cysteine (NAC); although I am beginning to lean towards NAC. Same thing with L-tyrosine and N-acetyl-tyrosine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballfan22 View Post
    Here is the link to the page to a citrulline malate powder.

    Citrulline Malate Powder - 180 grams

    Did you want me to supply links to the articles I am reading on both too? I don't want to hijack your thread and post a bunch of links to outside sources talking about the contrasts. Sadly, I am having trouble coming to my own conclusion on what is better. For every credible (and not credible) source I find favoring one, I find an equally credible (and not credible) source favoring the other one.

    I am finding it slightly difficult to determine which is better between L-cysteine and N-acetyl-cysteine (NAC); although I am beginning to lean towards NAC.
    Thats the citrulline that I used i'm using in my next batch. Nothing wrong with either. Stick to malate, even at lower volume you'll absorb a little more.

    NAC is a derivative of Cysteine. So they're not the same. NAC is absorbed better, yes... and it's benefit over Cysteine is raising Glutathione levels (which gives you a host of benefits). But you also need Glutamine and Glycine for this to take place. Cysteine doesn't need any help, although it's effects could be amplified with vitamin E.
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    How do you make capsules? I'm sick of drinking arginine. Is there a lil machine you use or so you just wing it by hand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cj111 View Post
    How do you make capsules? I'm sick of drinking arginine. Is there a lil machine you use or so you just wing it by hand?
    Yes. You can get a capping kit on amazon pretty cheap. There are simple ones and ones that are quite complex and can mix for you. Doing it by hand is too cumbersome. I only do that for liquid oral AAS.

    http://www.amazon.com/Capsule-Connec.../dp/B000PBX3GC
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    There are several types of magnesium, zinc, and copper. Correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like the best types are magnesium orotate, zinc orotate, and copper chelate.

    For the green tea extract, would drinking a cup of green tea meet those doses? I read that drinking the tea is better than the super concentrated extract. I suppose the same question can be applied to horny goat weed too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballfan22 View Post
    There are several types of magnesium, zinc, and copper. Correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like the best types are magnesium orotate, zinc orotate, and copper chelate.

    For the green tea extract, would drinking a cup of green tea meet those doses? I read that drinking the tea is better than the super concentrated extract. I suppose the same question can be applied to horny goat weed too.
    Magnesium citrate is highly absorbable. That's what I'm using. Zinc and copper, I use chelate.

    Horny goat weed as tea is known to be used in China, but it's foul. I don't think you'd enjoy it.

    I'd have to drink gallons of tea to get as much as I supplement. Drinking brewed tea is not superior to extract.
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    Yeah, I read that the citrate versions are highly absorbable too. The orotate versions tend to be pricer, so I am sure it wouldn't be worth the extra money.

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    I realize that anything micronized is absorbed more quickly (e.g. creatine monohydrate), so is that the only difference between micronized DHEA and DHEA? Would non-micronized DHEA not be as effective, and therefore it is worth the extra money to purchase (ultra)micronized DHEA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballfan22 View Post
    I realize that anything micronized is absorbed more quickly (e.g. creatine monohydrate), so is that the only difference between micronized DHEA and DHEA? Would non-micronized DHEA not be as effective, and therefore it is worth the extra money to purchase (ultra)micronized DHEA?
    Yes, micronizing is a process to reduce micron diameter. This makes it more absorbable. That is the only difference. That said, 100mg of DHEA does not equal 100mg of Micronized DHEA, as you will get more out of the micronized version, and it's absorbed faster for more immediate effects.

    Anything available micronized is the way to go.
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    Okay, I know you recommended to me before that 25 mg of DHEA would be sufficient; but after reading a few more threads on this site, it appears that I should delay taking it until I get blood work done. I am only 24, and I have never done any AAS. Unfortunately getting blood work done is not really an option yet, so do you advise to hold off or is 25 mg a small enough dose that I shouldn't worry about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by basketballfan22 View Post
    Okay, I know you recommended to me before that 25 mg of DHEA would be sufficient; but after reading a few more threads on this site, it appears that I should delay taking it until I get blood work done. I am only 24, and I have never done any AAS. Unfortunately getting blood work done is not really an option yet, so do you advise to hold off or is 25 mg a small enough dose that I shouldn't worry about it?
    You can get bloodwork, but DHEA isn't harmful. It's perfectly safe. You'll be fine.
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    What do you think about these supplements? I don't exactly know what to look for in extracts, so I was wondering what ones you think are best.

    Green Tea Extract:

    Green Tea 98% Powder, 50 Grams
    Swanson Superior Herbs Green Tea Extract 500 mg 60 Caps - Swanson Health Products

    Horny Goat Weed:

    Horny Goat Weed (Epimedium) Powder, 100 Grams
    NOW Foods Horny Goat Weed 750 mg 90 Tabs - Swanson Health Products

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    ^ those are all just fine. With green tea, you can seek a higher percentage of Polyphenol. Should yield around 400mg+ of Polyphenol per capsule. Avoid additives and liquid forms. Some folks might want to consider a decaf version if they have issues with caffeine.
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    Good stuff austinite! Where do you buy all your sups from? And how you getting these amazing pics of Dana Linn Bailey ?
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