Austinite's Amino Acids, Vitamins, Minerals, Herbs and more.

[austinite]

I am reading more about methylcobalamin and looking at injectable forms. From what I gather, methylcobalamin has a higher bioavailability than cyanocobalamin. Do you think doses should differ between the two? Also I read that one should inject subcutaneously (preferably in the buttocks) because it allows for a slow release; while intramuscular injections are absorbed very quickly, and any excess B-12 is eliminated through the urine within an hour of injection. Have your read anything on that?

Doses probably would, yes. I'm very excited to try it myself. Vettester was the one that alerted me to it's superiority. And yes, B12 is like Vitamin C with excess. Whatever doesn't bind is excreted. SubQ injections are fine, just takes longer to absorb. I do IM because I mix it with my gear.

Here's a link vettester shared that I think you'll find to be a great read:

Cyanocobalamin Versus Methylcobalamin

[basketballfan22]

Doses probably would, yes. I'm very excited to try it myself. Vettester was the one that alerted me to it's superiority. And yes, B12 is like Vitamin C with excess. Whatever doesn't bind is excreted. SubQ injections are fine, just takes longer to absorb. I do IM because I mix it with my gear.

Here's a link vettester shared that I think you'll find to be a great read:

Cyanocobalamin Versus Methylcobalamin

Haha, that was one of the sites I read. Thanks for the link though. Do you have any idea how I should adjust the dose then? Subcutaneous injections shouldn't affect dosing protocol though, right?

[basketballfan22]

Also where are you planning on purchasing your methylcobalamin?

[austinite]

Haha, that was one of the sites I read. Thanks for the link though. Do you have any idea how I should adjust the dose then? Subcutaneous injections shouldn't affect dosing protocol though, right?

yeah, subQ or IM should be the same dose. What's in question is Methyl vs Cyan dosing. That is still not answered for me yet, but I'm on it. (Probably over-thinking this one)

And yes, I plan on purchasing Methyl but have no idea where yet.

[ineedauser]

Why are you taking potassium?

Also forgot Taurine.

To help not get cramps from the Liquid Clen . I didn't take the Potassium last night though

[ineedauser]

I am curious about the kind of energy this PWO will give me. Most pre workouts don't do much for me

[austinite]

^ different for everyone. Give it a go and let us know! Because I use it regularly, I probably have already adjusted to the "energy" level. I would most likely appreciate it more if I came off the protocol.

[basketballfan22]

yeah, subQ or IM should be the same dose. What's in question is Methyl vs Cyan dosing. That is still not answered for me yet, but I'm on it. (Probably over-thinking this one)

And yes, I plan on purchasing Methyl but have no idea where yet.

Yeah, I was just making sure the only variable as far as dosing is concerned is the bioavailability and not the injection site.

Also here is one site I found. You can purchase human grade hCG too; although there are far cheaper options out there.

http://usvitamininjections.com/methylcobalamin

[jwh7699]

I saw that you mention taking L-Tyrosine before bed. Is there a benefit to taking it then? Thanks!!

[ineedauser]

Is it ok to take the Vitamin C and Methionine with my post workout shake?

Vega One and Whey Protein

[cj111]

Hey austin, I just noticed you don't take arg before bed. Apparently it raises GH levels when taken before bed. I've been taking it at night 1gram with my zma.

Any reason you don't ?

[austinite]

Hey austin, I just noticed you don't take arg before bed. Apparently it raises GH levels when taken before bed. I've been taking it at night 1gram with my zma.

Any reason you don't ?

I workout super late, usually in bed 30 minutes after. So my pre-workout dose is my last dose for the evening Sometimes if I cant sleep and end up staying way later, Ill take a couple grams before bed.

[cj111]

Ah right. My citrulline should be here in a day or so looking forward to adding it into the shit mix.

[austinite]

Ah right. My citrulline should be here in a day or so looking forward to adding it into the shit mix.

Sweeeeeeeeeeet. Update here with your opinion on it!

[austinite]

I saw that you mention taking L-Tyrosine before bed. Is there a benefit to taking it then? Thanks!!

It's a great recovery amino acid. I take it before bed because I workout late and it helps heal while you sleep.

Is it ok to take the Vitamin C and Methionine with my post workout shake?

Vega One and Whey Protein

Sure. Always heavy up on C after workout.

[armyranger516862006]

This is just awesome! Thanks for all this Austinite! I am going to be reading this over and over to pick what i need lol! Thanks again bud!

[basketballfan22]

Hey austin, I just noticed you don't take arg before bed. Apparently it raises GH levels when taken before bed. I've been taking it at night 1gram with my zma.

Any reason you don't ?

Very useful information. Thanks cj.

[austinite]

Yup. This is the study where that excerpt was posted in the original post.

http://forums.steroid.com/rate-your-supplements/528312-article-arginine-growth-hormone-hgh.html

[basketballfan22]

Yup. This is the study where that excerpt was posted in the original post.

http://forums.steroid.com/rate-your-supplements/528312-article-arginine-growth-hormone-hgh.html

God I love you austinite. Always helping me out. Thanks for the post. I will definitely read it. I love being able to read information from the original source.

[basketballfan22]

Also to clarify my above post. I tend to use the words "love" and "hate" rather haphazardly. Most of the time I don't actually mean those words as they are meant to be used, so don't worry austinite I'm not gay (not that there is anything wrong with that).

[austinite]

lmao. Well thanks for the clarification! Another Seinfeld quote above. haha.

[ineedauser]

Ok, first take on the PWO. Slightly more vascular than normal... But I didn't feel jittery or loaded with a sugar rush feeling. So far, I like it!

Question: should I take all the other goodies everyday? Just the PWO only on workout days?

[FONZY007]

Started taking a few and man the vascularity for sure is starting to pop...

[austinite]

Ok, first take on the PWO. Slightly more vascular than normal... But I didn't feel jittery or loaded with a sugar rush feeling. So far, I like it!

Question: should I take all the other goodies everyday? Just the PWO only on workout days?

Take them daily, on or off days. It gets better over time.

Started taking a few and man the vascularity for sure is starting to pop...

Good to hear Fonz! Keep it up!

ps... MRM brand pregnenolone is not the best. DHEA is good and micronized but I would look for an alternative brand for your pregnenolone.

[basketballfan22]

lmao. Well thanks for the clarification! Another Seinfeld quote above. haha.

Seinfeld = greatest show ever! I can sneak a quote in almost any situation, lol.

[ineedauser]

Even the pre workout dosing? Won't that give me tons of energy that I can't use?

[basketballfan22]

Ok, first take on the PWO. Slightly more vascular than normal... But I didn't feel jittery or loaded with a sugar rush feeling. So far, I like it!

Question: should I take all the other goodies everyday? Just the PWO only on workout days?

One of the very few questions I have not thought about! How does your non-training day protocol look like austinite? Do you just take everything like you would normally? For example because you work out at night (let's say at 10), you would still take your pre-workout supplements at 9:30 and post-workout supplements at 11 on your non-training days.

[austinite]

We need to be careful when talking about "Energy". I don't want to mislead anyone, but no one really gets that "BAM! HOLY CRAP I'VE GOT SO MUCH ENERGY". When you're supplementing to increase energy levels, your notability is more likely going to be in the beginning stages of supplementation. Once you become accustomed to the feeling, it becomes the "norm". Where you really appreciate it is when you come OFF the supplements and notice some fatigue or lack of energy. If you're doing good in the gym/workouts, it's important not to underestimate your energy level, otherwise you will be searching for "more" for the rest of your life.

I don't like anything that makes me "jittery". Those types of boosters make me lose focus. All I concentrate on is the rapid heartbeat which gets annoying. Counter productive if you ask me. The key is to slowly build up endurance, and most importantly for us lifters, is Muscle cell endurance. This is essentially what we're doing with the vascularity stack. Over time, someone with your exact stats, would not be able to lift as much as you, because of your Amino intake.

Always remember, we do not want to focus on instant gratification. Slow and steady over time will yield better results, especially mentally, because your expectations won't suffer. What comes up must come down... so if you're slow and steady, you will build a quality base for your workouts. If you take something that gives you that instant boost, you can expect to crash pretty hard afterwards.

[basketballfan22]

We need to be careful when talking about "Energy". I don't want to mislead anyone, but no one really gets that "BAM! HOLY CRAP I'VE GOT SO MUCH ENERGY". When you're supplementing to increase energy levels, your notability is more likely going to be in the beginning stages of supplementation. Once you become accustomed to the feeling, it becomes the "norm". Where you really appreciate it is when you come OFF the supplements and notice some fatigue or lack of energy. If you're doing good in the gym/workouts, it's important not to underestimate your energy level, otherwise you will be searching for "more" for the rest of your life.

I don't like anything that makes me "jittery". Those types of boosters make me lose focus. All I concentrate on is the rapid heartbeat which gets annoying. Counter productive if you ask me. The key is to slowly build up endurance, and most importantly for us lifters, is Muscle cell endurance. This is essentially what we're doing with the vascularity stack. Over time, someone with your exact stats, would not be able to lift as much as you, because of your Amino intake.

Always remember, we do not want to focus on instant gratification. Slow and steady over time will yield better results, especially mentally, because your expectations won't suffer. What comes up must come down... so if you're slow and steady, you will build a quality base for your workouts. If you take something that gives you that instant boost, you can expect to crash pretty hard afterwards.

Yeah, I didn't think your protocol gave the same effect as if you took a lot of those pre-workout supplements (e.g. 1.m.r). Now this is one of the few times I need to have my hand held in regards to your response, lol. I will take this as a "yes" to my question? Also you mentioned coming "OFF" the supplements. Now I know some people like to take time off from taking ANY supplements then go back on them, but I have never done this. Do you recommend taking time off from these supplements, or were you just referencing the noticeable effect you will feel if you ever come off them?

[austinite]

One of the very few questions I have not thought about! How does your non-training day protocol look like austinite? Do you just take everything like you would normally? For example because you work out at night (let's say at 10), you would still take your pre-workout supplements at 9:30 and post-workout supplements at 11 on your non-training days.

Whats a "non-training" day that you speak of? haha, jk.

The amount of daily intake does not change, only difference is that I don't take the high doses pre workout, obviously since there is no workout. Just spread it out.

[austinite]

Yeah, I didn't think your protocol gave the same effect as if you took a lot of those pre-workout supplements (e.g. 1.m.r). Now this is one of the few times I need to have my hand held in regards to your response, lol. I will take this as a "yes" to my question? Also you mentioned coming "OFF" the supplements. Now I know some people like to take time off from taking ANY supplements then go back on them, but I have never done this. Do you recommend taking time off from these supplements, or were you just referencing the noticeable effect you will feel if you ever come off them?

Correct, I was only referencing how to know it's working. There is no need to come off. I never come off. I've changed doses over time, but never came off. These aren't supplements that could cause damage over time, so you can stay on.

[basketballfan22]

One of the reasons I asked my question was that in the "Creatine FAQ" thread, it is recommended that one takes creatine monohydrate after his/her workout; but on non-training days one should take creatine in the morning. I was curious if timing should be altered on non-training days for any of your supplements.

[basketballfan22]

Whats a "non-training" day that you speak of? haha, jk.

The amount of daily intake does not change, only difference is that I don't take the high doses pre workout, obviously since there is no workout. Just spread it out.

Cool, thanks.

[austinite]

One of the reasons I asked my question was that in the "Creatine FAQ" thread, it is recommended that one takes creatine monohydrate after his/her workout; but on non-training days one should take creatine in the morning. I was curious if timing should be altered on non-training days for any of your supplements.

I don't do creatine but I get the logic here. No changes for me.

[basketballfan22]

I think I learned that I need to give you time to answer questions before giving you more, lol. You clearly answered mine, but I quickly responded to your first post before your response to mine went up. Sorry man.

[austinite]

I think I learned that I need to give you time to answer questions before giving you more, lol. You clearly answered mine, but I quickly responded to your first post before your response to mine went up. Sorry man.

lol. It's all good. Turned out to be a decent thread. Good to see everyone getting their supplements.

[basketballfan22]

lol. It's all good. Turned out to be a decent thread. Good to see everyone getting their supplements.

That's an understatement. I haven't gotten mine yet since I am strapped for cash, but I should be working here shortly. Once I am, then I will update this thread with any results I see. I have the protocol neatly entered in an Excel file along with the prices and hyperlinks to the websites I plan to purchase them from. In other words I am very prepared to start.

[austinite]

That's an understatement. I haven't gotten mine yet since I am strapped for cash, but I should be working here shortly. Once I am, then I will update this thread with any results I see. I have the protocol neatly entered in an Excel file along with the prices and hyperlinks to the websites I plan to purchase them from. In other words I am very prepared to start.

Exciting. I cant wait

[basketballfan22]

Austinite, do you take any of these supplements on an empty stomach? I know certain vitamins and supplements should be taken with food (e.g. vitamin E), while others should be taken on an empty stomach. I imagine you don't eat when you take your pre-workout supplements (sans a piece of fruit) since it is so close to working out, but I was curious about the other ones.

[austinite]

Sometimes. an empty stomach is kind of a loose term. But for me, it's an hour before eating or 2 hours after. I only worry about fat solubles, like Vitamin D and DHEA (not 7-ketoDHEA), E, etc... My meals arent really ever timed, but I do eat before and after training. usually an hour before training and almost immediately after. (helps me sleep to eat a big meal before bed)