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    I did cardio today. My knee still hurts but it seems to be getting better. I had two choices:
    1) let the knee rest more, but run the risk not burning enough fat
    2) do cardio , but run the risk of further damage and longer period of time without cardio.

    I obviously selected #2. I took the risk. Everything seems ok. I will know more later today and see if I should continue cardio tonight.

    I de-yoked 42 eggs and cooked them over the weekend.... I forgot them in Mexico. Last night I made two breakfasts..... and I forgot to bring them to work. Oh well. I have cans of tuna for emergencies.

    I saw myself in a silhouette and my back looks big. Still going for deep cut abs. Frag came in.


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    Is there a reason you dont just use purchased egg whites?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Is there a reason you dont just use purchased egg whites?
    I do in the US. In Mexico I get 360 eggs dirt cheap.


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    I am super psyched! My knee held up for my normal cardio session. It was shaky this morning but improved throughout the day.
    Charger is going full bore again. Time to get deep cuts in the abs.


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    What is the comp date?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    What is the comp date?
    20 July- Iím on the mother fucking home stretch and feeling great. ... now. Over the weekend not so good thinking that I would not be able to do cardio. 207.5 this morning. Iím trying to come in at 204, but it is going to be tough. I have a lot of water yet.
    GH is turning me into a pussy. RIR workout? I feel so good, I want to go to failure!!!
    Yes, GH, I will be a good student and follow the pussy routine. LOL



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    Cape- Iíll pass you the routine so you have a routine that will challenge you. LOL


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    10 days out. I am trying to lose fat and not lose weight. I no longer have anadrol to help me with that. This is really walking a fine line. My body naturally wants to lose weight right now. 6 weeks ago, just the opposite.




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    You donít know what your capable of until you try!


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    Lookin' good Charger- Keep hammering, your a machine.
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    Looking good. I’m no expert by far but you asked for critique.

    Double front bi I’d go higher with your elbows. See if you can engage lower lats more.
    Rear bi elbows higher. Turn your right knee out more to show more quad ham tie in.

    Quads weight on your heel not toes. Angle seems good.

    Side tri I’d turn the left side in a hair so bi thickness shows running into chest giving a bigger appearance. Unless the turn takes away from your tri shot.

    Your posing has come as far as your physique. Both are way better than they were. They both show you’re working hard.

    BG and Kel would be great to ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Looking good. Iím no expert by far but you asked for critique.

    Double front bi Iíd go higher with your elbows. See if you can engage lower lats more.
    Rear bi elbows higher. Turn your right knee out more to show more quad ham tie in.

    Quads weight on your heel not toes. Angle seems good.

    Side tri Iíd turn the left side in a hair so bi thickness shows running into chest giving a bigger appearance. Unless the turn takes away from your tri shot.

    Your posing has come as far as your physique. Both are way better than they were. They both show youíre working hard.

    BG and Kel would be great to ask.
    Thank you for taking the time.
    I have to hit everything perfect because I am going up against some big boys in the heavyweight class.


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    You have done an incredible job changer all I can say is wow man great job!!!...that and holy shit!!!!...
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    I'll only critique one pose, your side chest. In the pose above it looks as if all the air is out of your lungs and your front shoulder is collapsed in. Pull your chest up, hold your shoulder back and expand, then twist into the shot. You have a great chest, show it.

    Not sure how you always do your front bicep but here's a thought poorly paraphrased from Arnold. "Twist your hips slightly which will make your waist look smaller and thus, your chest larger."

    It's all about mandatory poses anymore so practice, practice, practice!

    Just some random thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I'll only critique one pose, your side chest. In the pose above it looks as if all the air is out of your lungs and your front shoulder is collapsed in. Pull your chest up, hold your shoulder back and expand, then twist into the shot. You have a great chest, show it.

    Not sure how you always do your front bicep but here's a thought poorly paraphrased from Arnold. "Twist your hips slightly which will make your waist look smaller and thus, your chest larger."

    It's all about mandatory poses anymore so practice, practice, practice!

    Just some random thoughts.
    The only way I will get better is to hear people critique me. I welcome it. I strive for excellence even though I am far from it.

    You are right. When I emptied my abs, I was emptying my lungs also. I couldnít figure it out until now. I appreciate your time!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettoboyd View Post
    You have done an incredible job changer all I can say is wow man great job!!!...that and holy shit!!!!...
    I still have 9 days to get better.
    Thank you for your kind words.


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    I was in a staff meeting yesterday and one of my peers blurted out.. Oh my God, your muscles have grown! I felt a little embarrassed, happy and worried. He said it again and I was afraid the ďSĒ word was next.
    After the meeting, I thanked him and explained about the glycogen loading.

    Itís just tough for us ďall nattyĒ bodybuilders. LOL

    I am down to the home stretch. I am losing weight left and right. Down to 204.8 but still full. I think GH is finding out how much of a worry wart I am. He tells me not to worry so I am just along for the ride. LOL

    I still am curious how my abs will come out but we will see.


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    Keep it up charger. You are an inspiration for more than you know. Keep it up, soon you'll get some delicious carbs hehe.
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    I officiated wrestling today. It was interesting. First thing was my tan. A number of coaches I know asked if I went to PUerta RICO or some other place known for having dark skinned people. I had forgotten about my tan.
    After the first round some of the experienced officials were talking about situations they had with coaches. I didnít have one coach yell at me.
    It was rather warm in the gym (SoCal without AC on). I got more than my share of cardio in and the back of my shirt was soaked.
    I had one kid tell me that I was the buffest official he has ever seen. Due to the heat, my veins were popping.

    I weighed myself today and I was below my goal. I weighed 203.8. GH has turned me into a metabolic machine. I could probably eat junk food and lose weight- no, no testing to see if itís true or not. LOL
    I have never been in this situation where I canít stop losing weight. It is normally the other way around.
    We have a plan to start loading on Wednesday and hopefully filling out.
    No more injections to comp. I have also dropped the clen to 20 and the T3 to 25 mg



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    My wife made hamburgers and asked if I wanted one.
    Sheís really into me winning. LOL


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    Iím down to 203.1. Not what I wanted. I will pose later on and assess my status. Hopefully have some pics....: only if they are good. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I’m down to 203.1. Not what I wanted. I will pose later on and assess my status. Hopefully have some pics....: only if they are good. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Duffer View Post
    Scale psych-out. Don't let it make you change course
    once we deplete , and I reload him and draw all the water from his lower back and abs into is muscle he is going to look leaner, harder, and be much heavier on stage then before . its all about transferring the weight at this point of the game, theres nothing left to lose

    going to wake up Saturday morning and magically water retention is going to be shifted from low back and abs into the muscle cells instead and be striated, ripped, and full as fuk.
    just going to take some last minute manipulations
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    once we deplete , and I reload him and draw all the water from his lower back and abs into is muscle he is going to look leaner, harder, and be much heavier on stage then before . its all about transferring the weight at this point of the game, theres nothing left to lose

    going to wake up Saturday morning and magically water retention is going to be shifted from low back and abs into the muscle cells instead and be striated, ripped, and full as fuk.
    just going to take some last minute manipulations
    See, I told you guys!!!! He has a Charger voodoo doll that he uses to manipulate things!!!! What is happening canít be natural. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    My wife made hamburgers and asked if I wanted one.
    She’s really into me winning. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    once we deplete , and I reload him and draw all the water from his lower back and abs into is muscle he is going to look leaner, harder, and be much heavier on stage then before . its all about transferring the weight at this point of the game, theres nothing left to lose

    going to wake up Saturday morning and magically water retention is going to be shifted from low back and abs into the muscle cells instead and be striated, ripped, and full as fuk.
    just going to take some last minute manipulations

    Fascinating stuff GH!
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    Well, I think my body is going to want to put GH to the test. I started losing weight without even trying, now I am gaining weight. Iím up to 207. I hope That GH prevails over my stubborn body.
    Pics will be coming tonight.
    I cannot judge myself when I first get up because I always look like shit.
    I naturally want to react, but as GH says ď you need to trust the processĒ. I think he was referring to the voodoo process. LOL

    Itís peak week. I feel great but a little uneasy as to what is happening and why. I will easily lose weight with the water, but I wasnít expecting to gain so much weight so fast. Itís like my body is right on the edge. Minute changes seem to have a big impact.

    I met this guy at the gym that has his pro card in menís physique. He is trying to convince me to get my pro card in the masters division. I am no where near that level.
    I woke up at 3 exactly. I just want to do cardio and my routine to see how jacked I can get. Although I am a little nervous over the recent changes, I know that GH will know what to do if undesirable to adjust or if this was expected.
    I am on the verge of presenting the best version of my physique ( by far) in 5 days. Of course Iím nervous that I donít fuck it up.

    I can say that, one way or another, I will go on stage looking like a bad mother fucker.

    I would also like to thank you guys for the tips and support. You guys really make a difference especially when I had head games going on. And GH...... well I will get to that later.

    BTW- after this I am going to give my body a break. Then comes the next log..... the GH challenge- can he provide Charger with the tools to put on 2Ē of muscle on his legs in 3 months. How much total size can be put on by following a strict protocol?

    I think that I have increased in size quite a bit. Family is beginning to ask if I inject. LOL. All natural here! LOL. Itís all about the secrets of glycogen loading.


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    ok so just for informational purposes for all you guys following along , I'll explain a bit of whats going on and what we are doing here.

    its 'peak weak' so theres lots of adjustments to make and timing of things. but I generally start making peak weak adjustments about 2 weeks out. what we did is lower his carbs to only 100g and post workout only (and kept total cals low). this was to deplete him slightly , pull off some extra fat, and help provide a super compensation effect of muscle glycogen that will cause him to rebound once we carb load for the show. sometimes we go zero carbs for this depletion phase , but I did not want charger to end up getting too depleted and end up going flat and looking stringy , as we want to bring a bigger fuller package on stage.
    during this depletion phase we also then began salt loading (just increased salt intake) and electrolyte loading (drinking Pedialyte). this will help keep the muscles still somewhat full and hydrated as the glycogen is depleting. Also the increase in salt is going to help keep his Aldosterone levels down.

    ok so now this week, more changes were made (which answers some of the changes going on right now). He has been on T3 at 50mcg and Clen at 60mcg.. I cut the T3 down to 25mcg this week (which is just a replacement dosage and what most people naturally produce), then dropped the Clen to 20mcg which is nearly nothing but enough to keep from rebounding.

    the reason I drop these dosages down so low during peak weak is because you can NOT properly carb load with T3 and clen when they are at fat burning dosages. T3 at 50mcg is revving your metabolism so fast, and in calorie deficit your body has no reason to store (so glycogen loading is limited), and Clen raises Glucagon (which basically pulls glucose out of cells rather then into cells) which prevents glycogen loading .


    So now comes whats happening with Chargers body right now. with Aldosterone levels low, with his body flood with electrolytes, with the T3 and Clen dose lowered, with Glucagon levels lowered and Glut 4 levels elevated .. his body is now soaking up every little bit of carbs that he is taking in. The glucose is getting stored as muscle glycogen, and with all those nutrients and electrolytes in his blood stream , and fluid available , this is all getting forced into the muscle cells and stored as muscle fullness (this is how I'm having him come in 5+ pounds fuller on stage compered to last show) ,, AND even though he's been training 2 a days, doing cardio, in a calorie deficit, etc ... his body (his muscle) is just soaking everything up.

    this is also why he is going Hypo right now . with Glucagon levels dropped after dropping down Clen and T3 , but Glut 4 levels high ,, his muscle is rapidly soaking up all the glucose from his blood stream and causing him to go hypo .

    this is all a good thing and what I expect to be happening right now and things are going as planned . We have not even began the full water depletion process and the carb up yet ,, but his body is taking in the little bit of carbs he does have extremely well.


    couple other notes -- with the salt loading and electrolyte loading process, along with the 100g carbs, his body is super hydrated and aldosterone levels are down and his body has no reason to hold onto water right now.
    this is part of the water manipulation process.

    But this is just to prevent putting on extra water for right now ,, we still have to go through the process of drying out and getting super hard.


    this is the tentative plan-

    Weds we begin to carb front load. probably take in 300g of carbs from rice and potato. at this point we begin to cut the salt in half (the salt loading phase is done).
    see how he looks Thurs morning. and access how many carbs to take in that day . then assess Thursday afternoon (and cut salt down even more) to see if we will need to use a mild diuretic . at this stage we would only use Aldaactone (no Dyazide or Lasix , too early for that).
    see how he looks Friday morning.. Salt is cut off completely, but electrolytes and water intake are still up. may need one more small dose of Aldactone Friday morning.
    Likely add some fats back into his diet on Friday along with the carb load just to help fill out any intercellular triglycerides. plus the fats will help put him in a slight calorie surplus (you can't fully glycogen load if your in a calorie deficit).
    Friday night water gets pulled. but carb intake goes up for those last two meals .. by pulling out drinking water at this stage , yet consuming carbs that require water, your body is forced to provide those carbs with its last bit of stored water under the skin.. this will then get pulled into the muscle cells and away from the skin and provide that hard fully striated look.
    see how he looks before going to bed Friday night . IF we have to its at this point we may take a diuretic like Dyazide . the reason I don't suggest dayside or lasix up front and I'd rather start with Aldactone, is that Dyazide and Lasix can strip your body of ALL water, including all the water we just spent the weeks trying to load up into the muscle cells. if that happens then you'll go flat and lose your muscle fullness. so gotta be careful here (of course I have a back up protocol for in case this happens) .

    anyhow theres just a little bit of details and insight for you guys that are interested . of course everything I mention is subject to change and we may need to make adjustments on the fly. don't always stick to the plan, but at least have a plan to start

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    ok so just for informational purposes for all you guys following along , I'll explain a bit of whats going on and what we are doing here.

    its 'peak weak' so theres lots of adjustments to make and timing of things. but I generally start making peak weak adjustments about 2 weeks out. what we did is lower his carbs to only 100g and post workout only (and kept total cals low). this was to deplete him slightly , pull off some extra fat, and help provide a super compensation effect of muscle glycogen that will cause him to rebound once we carb load for the show. sometimes we go zero carbs for this depletion phase , but I did not want charger to end up getting too depleted and end up going flat and looking stringy , as we want to bring a bigger fuller package on stage.
    during this depletion phase we also then began salt loading (just increased salt intake) and electrolyte loading (drinking Pedialyte). this will help keep the muscles still somewhat full and hydrated as the glycogen is depleting. Also the increase in salt is going to help keep his Aldosterone levels down.

    ok so now this week, more changes were made (which answers some of the changes going on right now). He has been on T3 at 50mcg and Clen at 60mcg.. I cut the T3 down to 25mcg this week (which is just a replacement dosage and what most people naturally produce), then dropped the Clen to 20mcg which is nearly nothing but enough to keep from rebounding.

    the reason I drop these dosages down so low during peak weak is because you can NOT properly carb load with T3 and clen when they are at fat burning dosages. T3 at 50mcg is revving your metabolism so fast, and in calorie deficit your body has no reason to store (so glycogen loading is limited), and Clen raises Glucagon (which basically pulls glucose out of cells rather then into cells) which prevents glycogen loading .


    So now comes whats happening with Chargers body right now. with Aldosterone levels low, with his body flood with electrolytes, with the T3 and Clen dose lowered, with Glucagon levels lowered and Glut 4 levels elevated .. his body is now soaking up every little bit of carbs that he is taking in. The glucose is getting stored as muscle glycogen, and with all those nutrients and electrolytes in his blood stream , and fluid available , this is all getting forced into the muscle cells and stored as muscle fullness (this is how I'm having him come in 5+ pounds fuller on stage compered to last show) ,, AND even though he's been training 2 a days, doing cardio, in a calorie deficit, etc ... his body (his muscle) is just soaking everything up.

    this is also why he is going Hypo right now . with Glucagon levels dropped after dropping down Clen and T3 , but Glut 4 levels high ,, his muscle is rapidly soaking up all the glucose from his blood stream and causing him to go hypo .

    this is all a good thing and what I expect to be happening right now and things are going as planned . We have not even began the full water depletion process and the carb up yet ,, but his body is taking in the little bit of carbs he does have extremely well.


    couple other notes -- with the salt loading and electrolyte loading process, along with the 100g carbs, his body is super hydrated and aldosterone levels are down and his body has no reason to hold onto water right now.
    this is part of the water manipulation process.

    But this is just to prevent putting on extra water for right now ,, we still have to go through the process of drying out and getting super hard.


    this is the tentative plan-

    Weds we begin to carb front load. probably take in 300g of carbs from rice and potato. at this point we begin to cut the salt in half (the salt loading phase is done).
    see how he looks Thurs morning. and access how many carbs to take in that day . then assess Thursday afternoon (and cut salt down even more) to see if we will need to use a mild diuretic . at this stage we would only use Aldaactone (no Dyazide or Lasix , too early for that).
    see how he looks Friday morning.. Salt is cut off completely, but electrolytes and water intake are still up. may need one more small dose of Aldactone Friday morning.
    Likely add some fats back into his diet on Friday along with the carb load just to help fill out any intercellular triglycerides. plus the fats will help put him in a slight calorie surplus (you can't fully glycogen load if your in a calorie deficit).
    Friday night water gets pulled. but carb intake goes up for those last two meals .. by pulling out drinking water at this stage , yet consuming carbs that require water, your body is forced to provide those carbs with its last bit of stored water under the skin.. this will then get pulled into the muscle cells and away from the skin and provide that hard fully striated look.
    see how he looks before going to bed Friday night . IF we have to its at this point we may take a diuretic like Dyazide . the reason I don't suggest dayside or lasix up front and I'd rather start with Aldactone, is that Dyazide and Lasix can strip your body of ALL water, including all the water we just spent the weeks trying to load up into the muscle cells. if that happens then you'll go flat and lose your muscle fullness. so gotta be careful here (of course I have a back up protocol for in case this happens) .

    anyhow theres just a little bit of details and insight for you guys that are interested . of course everything I mention is subject to change and we may need to make adjustments on the fly. don't always stick to the plan, but at least have a plan to start
    That’s so awesome GH. I’ve always tried to find something like that explaining exactly what BBs do going into a show and I’ve never found anything like that before. Not even close.

    I looked up Aldactone and I wonder something. It’s an anti androgen drug in addition to it being a potassium sparing diuretic. Does that anti androgen have any effect on anything or is it just the diuretic effect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    That’s so awesome GH. I’ve always tried to find something like that explaining exactly what BBs do going into a show and I’ve never found anything like that before. Not even close.

    I looked up Aldactone and I wonder something. It’s an anti androgen drug in addition to it being a potassium sparing diuretic. Does that anti androgen have any effect on anything or is it just the diuretic effect?
    great question . in this situation the anti androgen aspect is irrelevant. we are only taking the drug once or twice and thats it (not taking it like a prescribed medicine over time) and so we will only get that one time Aldostereone blunting effect (when we pull out the salt) and deiuretic effect,, the androgen effects will not be noticed or relevant ,, Plus keep in mind that Charger is currently at an androgen load equal to that of like 4000mg of test or more (between the tren , halo, and mast, etc.) , theres no anti androgen effects that are going to effect that for him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    That’s so awesome GH. I’ve always tried to find something like that explaining exactly what BBs do going into a show and I’ve never found anything like that before. Not even close.
    I should point out , this is specific protocol for Chargers situation. not all bodybuilders are doing this going into a show. it can look very very different from person to person. I have the benefit of having helped him with his last show, so I have some insights into how his body responds
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    One additional item is that I am way low in weight that Iím using. My strength has gone, which is to be expected, but this time it disappeared quickly and not gradually over time. I attribute this to the pulling of the anadrol . Huge difference in weight that Iím using.


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    One additional item is that I am way low in weight that I’m using. My strength has gone, which is to be expected, but this time it disappeared quickly and not gradually over time. I attribute this to the pulling of the anadrol . Huge difference in weight that I’m using.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    I should point out , this is specific protocol for Chargers situation. not all bodybuilders are doing this going into a show. it can look very very different from person to person. I have the benefit of having helped him with his last show, so I have some insights into how his body responds
    This is gonna be exciting to see charger in a few dats when he kicks some ass. I’m really excited to see how you guys do for the next challenge of adding 2” on his wiener. He really needs it.
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