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10-14-2008, 10:43 PM #96121
no whore has touched more dead people and things than me. Every animal you can think of. Part of my job at a hospital was to put the deadies in the fridge from where-ev they died in the hospital years back. I do spine surgery on dead people all the time. It gets old and is gross. The people who like that, don't get along well with the living, anti-social mo-fo's
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10-14-2008, 10:44 PM #96123
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10-14-2008, 10:44 PM #96124
didnt say it was fast i ran a mile in 8 mins today then did hit for 1.5 more just wanted your input you may be able to run no problem but i have asthma and a heart condition so it took me quite some time to be able to run like this just wanted to know if you thought 3 miles a day would help speed up my lean thats all
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10-14-2008, 10:46 PM #96125Stupid
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10-14-2008, 10:46 PM #96126
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10-14-2008, 10:48 PM #96127
ok so what would you recommend ???
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10-14-2008, 10:49 PM #96128
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10-14-2008, 10:49 PM #96129
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10-14-2008, 10:52 PM #96130
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10-14-2008, 10:53 PM #96131
yeah, that's what I mean his receptors are being fed tren and all of a sudden nothing, so the muscle goes quick
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10-14-2008, 10:56 PM #96132Stupid
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10-14-2008, 10:58 PM #96133
No reason to cut down drastically or quickly, just do cardio 3 times a week min. Don't try to loose more than 2 pounds per week. Keep your protein intake up. Casien protein is good keeps muscle, eat egg whites and lots of them, drink milk with every meal(skim if you don't mind it).
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10-14-2008, 11:02 PM #96134
I've just accessed sites that say down regulation are a myth.
http://www.bodybuilderselite.com/for...read.php?t=193
http://www.**********online.com/adro...gulation.shtml <--- by Bill roberts thats b a s s k i l l e r online, also m e s o m o r p h o s i s.com as an article
Here are own site. Says when running cycles close together its the SHBG levels that affect the results which the Proviron will help lower.
How long for receptors to clear?
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10-14-2008, 11:02 PM #96135Stupid
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night night hookers
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10-14-2008, 11:04 PM #96136
Just trying to learn to get this together Kratos thats all
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You dirty whores
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10-14-2008, 11:14 PM #96138
Kadi F, Bonnerud P, Eriksson A, Thornell LE.
Department of Integrative Medical Biology, Section for Anatomy, Umeå University, 901 87, Umeå, Sweden. [email protected]
The purpose of this study was to investigate the immunohistochemical expression of androgen receptors (AR) in human vastus lateralis and trapezius muscles and to determine whether long-term strength training and self-administration of androgenic -anabolic steroids are accompanied by changes in AR content. Biopsy samples were taken from eight high-level power-lifters (P), nine high-level power-lifters who used anabolic steroids (PAS) and six untrained subjects (U). Myonuclei and AR were visualised in cross-sections stained with the monoclonal antibody against AR and 4',6-diamidino-2-phenylindole. The proportion of AR-containing myonuclei per fibre cross-section was higher in the trapezius than in the vastus lateralis (P<0.05). In the trapezius, the proportion of AR-containing myonuclei was higher in P compared to U and in PAS compared to both P and U (P<0. 05). On the contrary, in the vastus lateralis, there were no differences in AR content between the three groups. Myonuclear number in both muscles was higher in P compared to U and in PAS compared to both P and U (P<0.05). In conclusion, AR content differs greatly between human neck and limb muscles. Moreover, the regulation of AR-containing myonuclei following training and self-administration of androgenic-anabolic steroids is muscle dependent.
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10-14-2008, 11:16 PM #96139
so there was a difference at least in trap
other muscle was not statistically significant
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10-14-2008, 11:19 PM #96140
I have no idea about that study. Its about the AR content in the neck and limb muscle. And in the ends states is regulation is muscle dependent. Look at the thread here, that I posted. Great thread with a lot studies that say its a myth. I mean if Bill Roberts says its not true I'll go with that. Its other factors that slow the muscle growing process, not the AR, its something that has yet to be fully understood. Probably a combo of gene code and SHBG levels
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10-14-2008, 11:20 PM #96141
Menard CS, Harlan RE.
Department of Anatomy, Tulane University Medical School, New Orleans, LA 70112.
To characterize central nervous system changes that occur with anabolic steroid abuse in humans, immunocytochemical localization of androgen receptors in the brains of 10 intact and 10 castrated male rats was conducted after the administration of high levels of androgenic -anabolic steroids (AAS; 14 daily injections of sesame oil or a cocktail of 2 mg/kg testosterone cypionate , 2 mg/kg nandrolone decanoate, and 1 mg/kg boldenone undecylenate). In normal intact oil-treated males, nuclear androgen receptor immunoreactivity was present in many 'classical' and 'non-classical' androgen target sites in the brain. Administration of AAS increased the intensity of immunoreactivity in most classical androgen target sites and increased both the intensity of immunoreactivity and number of immunoreactive cells in most non-classical androgen target sites. These results may suggest that androgen receptors in the brain are up-regulated by AAS. The simultaneous androgen receptor up-regulation in these regions by AAS may account for the complex anabolic steroid abuse syndrome. Consistently, androgen receptor immunoreactivity in most brain regions was reduced or absent after castration, suggesting that endogenous androgen levels are necessary for normal androgen receptor immunoreactivity. These results identify the distribution of one central nervous system mechanism modified by AAS.
Not in the muscle, but change in receptor regulation, might not be relivent to what we were talking about but interesting.
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10-14-2008, 11:21 PM #96142
yes this is all interesting I enjoy these thought provoking unsolved areas in the bodybuilding world
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10-14-2008, 11:25 PM #96143
Enough drunk posting for me.....
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10-14-2008, 11:27 PM #96144
No input in are discussion FallenWyvern
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10-14-2008, 11:27 PM #96145
Idk, the right answer honestly reed
but I'll say this, my feeling is steroid users want to think juicing has no effect and they twist things a bit.
Look at how sensitive chicks are to androgens, you give them 50mg of deca a week and they put on all kinds of muscle...reason...they've never been exposed to androgens.
Every receptor regulates somehow, there is conflicting info on the subject for sure.
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10-14-2008, 11:29 PM #96146
g2g to bed, stupid day job
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10-14-2008, 11:34 PM #96147
Later Kratos
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nite kraots
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sorry was in the diet forum.....
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10-14-2008, 11:46 PM #96150
You redoing your diet Mex??
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10-14-2008, 11:48 PM #96151
Mya-ya-hee
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got that song stuck in my head. downloading it as we speak so i can get my fix
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no spreading the word out to other fatties like me that ketos diet works great.
that is a good song one shot.
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10-14-2008, 11:56 PM #96153
whores
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10-14-2008, 11:57 PM #96154
bored whores
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yeah im bored too lol
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10-15-2008, 12:03 AM #96156
yup yup. me four
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alright whores sluts bitches and all others i left out im outtie time to go to bed.
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10-15-2008, 12:16 AM #96158
bed? what is bed?
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10-15-2008, 12:18 AM #96159
Back again for a bit...
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10-15-2008, 12:20 AM #96160
Mya-ya-hee
Mya-ya-huu
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Mya-ya-ha ha!
im out men. nighty night
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Yes sir, when you drop your estrogen down to nothing you generally feel shitty and ache like hell. Try backin off the AI some next time.
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