You want the Gov to stay out of your business? Want to make Gear legal?

[convalescence69]

Read the RED

About your statement there, I have to commend you. This is the typical Libertarian "hands off" policy, which I think respects people as individuals and allows them to make their own choices and mistakes. Being a parent can be very difficult, letting our kids make mistakes, and in some cases they even die because of them, but thats life. We can't protect everyone from themselves, the notion of even trying is ludicrous and is disrespectful to intelligent people. In a libertarian society, concerning drugs, they are made by pharmaceutical companies, the products are tested just like all other prescription drugs, and set to the same standards. They are available for purchase, and are issued with a thick pamphlet on how they are used, the dangers and effects, all there for the person, the individual, to make decions on what is best for him/herself. If they want to be dumb and inject/swallow 10 times the most dangerous dose of whatever, then its their fault. This policy also gets the drugs off the street and reduces crime by preventing the increased black market value of these substances, thus making no reason to fight over them with machine guns and what have you.
All sounds good on paper, and I have my reservations about some of it myself, but I still think its better than filling our prisons with pot heads.

[J-Dogg]

I don't vote because I don't care to research the canidates really.

I wish more people in their 20's thought like that. Instead they all hop on the bandwagon and vote for who ever appeals to them most...not who share their ideas. They just think they are doing the right thing by voting because Puff Daddy said "choose or loose".

Steroids should not be able to be bought over the counter, but I see no harm in a doctor being able to perscribe them to a "customer" if the doctor is over seeing the operation and keeping the patient out of harms way.

[Animal Cracker]

funny stuff.

[convalescence69]

There would indeed need to be some regulation, no doubt, but I think most of us are in agreement here that things are certainly NOT ideal atm and we need change. This bullcrap about getting our mail searched, our houses busted into without a warrant (patriot act allows that, read it), our email sifted through, and our searches on yahoo or whatever being logged and recorded, that is just utter and total bullsh*t!

[convalescence69]

funny stuff.

No, not funny stuff. If you are a member of the forum, then you must be a gear user, which essentially means that if the Gov catches you they condemn you to years in prison to get potentially ass raped because they think you aren't smart enough or good enough to think for yourself. Nothing funny about that at all.
The people I've met here are not stupid, and they are not criminals, and what happens to some of us that get nailed by the gov is far from funny, it ruins peoples lives, not the gear, the gov.
We have limited options for change, but when they appear you've gotta use them. Ron Paul 08!

[convalescence69]

Very good Video on Ron Paul's Myspace page, watch it! It's very very good http://www.myspace.com/congressmanronpaul

[SnaX]

Read the RED

I know , I hear what you're saying and I agree. I am just coming from an area where I would hate to see people get themselves into trouble.

I'll have my moments when I agree about people getting themselves killed as means of "survival of the fittest". I am saying that when it happens, that a number of people get themselves into serious health trouble, the whole fiasco of "steroids are the root of evil" will start up once more.

That's the other spectrum of people needing to educate themselves on how things MUST be used responsibly.

[SnaX]

letting our kids make mistakes, and in some cases they even die because of them, but thats life.

That's actually tragic.

On another note, It's totally possible to do this, and I'm not against the idea.. after all, I am on a steroid board.

The information on safety must be as widely spread and available as the substance itself.

I'm all for educating people. If people are willing to ask questions to better themselves, then I'm more than willing to help give answers.

Steroids should not be able to be bought over the counter, but I see no harm in a doctor being able to perscribe them

I agree. These are powerful hormones.

[IronReload04]

The sad truth is that americans are sheep and go where the in crowd goes, the last election was a perfect example, scare tactics won that election. It amazes me because this is by far the worst, most corrupt and incompetent administration in U.S. history that has senselessly wasted tax dollars and more importantly American lives, it is truly a dark time in American history. People want a household name, someone that graces the cover of TIME, our party system is outdated at best, how can you always sit on one side of the fence or the other, left or right, black or white. No one person is always a dem. and not one person is always a rep. to group people in one or the other is wrong and it limits the choices the American public has as a matter of social control by 2 groups of people, very scary indeed.

actually, i would say people really are one or the other......often times, rupbublicans will make more money when a repub is in office, and vise versa.......so many times, the president that gets elected simply because their happened to be more people in that party who could personally financially benefit that particular year...

so its more a selfishness thing than a sheep tihng


but their def is a sheep thing there too. i remember the election time....I was old enough to vote for the last election......i was in a dorm......all the girls on my floor, o man, they were hell bent on convincing people bush was the greatest thing since sliced bread........they were uneducated and strongly opinioned....in this sense, they were sheep........i have been hearing from day 1 that bush would be running this country to the ground

[convalescence69]

actually, i would say people really are one or the other......often times, rupbublicans will make more money when a repub is in office, and vise versa.......so many times, the president that gets elected simply because their happened to be more people in that party who could personally financially benefit that particular year...

so its more a selfishness thing than a sheep tihng


but their def is a sheep thing there too. i remember the election time....I was old enough to vote for the last election......i was in a dorm......all the girls on my floor, o man, they were hell bent on convincing people bush was the greatest thing since sliced bread........they were uneducated and strongly opinioned....in this sense, they were sheep........i have been hearing from day 1 that bush would be running this country to the ground

You make a very good point, this too is a reason things go as they do.
I want to refocus what the thread is about, and its about getting the awareness out about Ron Paul and how it can really help some of us here out. Ron Paul is a total badass, read up on his views, learn what you can, RON PAUL 08!!! He needs your vote in the primaries!! http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...a.ron.paul.cnn
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

[IronReload04]

i like what i am hearing...but is this shit to good to be true?

[Logan13]

Ron Paul is today's Ross Perot. Trust me. His only purpose is to put Hilary into office (all orchestrated by the Clinton's of course), and it will be successfull. He will eventualy split theconservative vote and Hilary will win by default.

Exactly....!

[Logan13]

RonPaul2008.com
Border Security and Immigration Reform
The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. This is my six point plan:

Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.

[Logan13]

how old are you convalesence?

Young enough to vote for a guy simply because he will legalize his rec. drugs........

[convalescence69]

Young enough to vote for a guy simply because he will legalize his rec. drugs........

I think you are oversimplifying the situation, and are doing so in a disrespectful way. I do not use recreational drugs (pot, etc), but I also don't think I have the right to tell you that you can't. I don't think its right that our government is codemning good people to get ass raped in jail because they want to try out t-bol.
The purpose of making the post was to bring a level of awareness of the issues and how they can be changed to a group of people that could be positively affected by that change, and have the ability to influence that change.
I didn't make the post "Vote Ron Paul because he will build a wall on the border with Mexico", that would be a foolish opener because it doesn't apply to the subject or nature of this forum. What concerns the people here is that they are forced to be affraid of the authorities and the consequences of being caught purchasing and using substances that in reality should be totally within their rights to use. I own my body, not the government, I can do what I want to it, and I can put in it what i want.
Consider the attitude towards guns. Some people think because a guy was murdered with a gun then guns should be banned. That is idiotic. A person killed another person, the gun was just an implement. What if he used a rock? Ban rocks? Steroids are the same, if someone OD's or an incident like the Benoit situation happens, it wasn't the steroids that killed the people, it was the people involved making poor decisions that did the killing.
Saying I want to vote for Ron Paul "simply" because he will legalize my rec. drugs is idiotic and insulting and narrows the scope of his argument and does a disservice to yourself. If you bothered to read the thread, his other views and attitudes are, if enacted, extremely beneficial.
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Regarding the argument that he is meant to split the conservative vote.... I already refuted this argument. Ron Paul is not a third party candidate, and has no intention to run as a third party candidate for President if he is not nominated as the republican candidate for the presidency. There is no splitting of the vote. Ron Paul needs your votes for the Primary first.
Ross Perot ran as a third party candidate in the Reform Party, this DID affect the two other parties by subtracting votes from their base, in effect "splitting" the vote, as you say, however, that is not the case here with Ron Paul. Ron Paul is attempting to get the Republican nomination, if he is successful there will be just 2 candidates, as usual, with Ron Paul vs probably Hillary Clinton. No splitting of the vote.

[thegodfather]

I think you are oversimplifying the situation, and are doing so in a disrespectful way. I do not use recreational drugs (pot, etc), but I also don't think I have the right to tell you that you can't. I don't think its right that our government is codemning good people to get ass raped in jail because they want to try out t-bol.
The purpose of making the post was to bring a level of awareness of the issues and how they can be changed to a group of people that could be positively affected by that change, and have the ability to influence that change.
I didn't make the post "Vote Ron Paul because he will build a wall on the border with Mexico", that would be a foolish opener because it doesn't apply to the subject or nature of this forum.
Your right it doesnt apply here. But I do think it is a very valid point, because I dont believe any person should be REWARDED for breaking our laws. I also dont believe they should be entitled to any of the services which we pay taxes for, when they contribute nothing. I agree with every point Ron Paul has on immigration, end the birthwright citizenship, no wellfare or free education for illegal immigrants, and deport all current illegal immigrants. These people do not have ANY rights in this country, because they are not citizens, and they are not here legally.
What concerns the people here is that they are forced to be affraid of the authorities and the consequences of being caught purchasing and using substances that in reality should be totally within their rights to use. I own my body, not the government, I can do what I want to it, and I can put in it what i want.
Consider the attitude towards guns. Some people think because a guy was murdered with a gun then guns should be banned. That is idiotic. A person killed another person, the gun was just an implement.
Agree 100%, as I pointed out earlier, 1,000,000 Rawandans were killed with MACHEDES.
What if he used a rock? Ban rocks? Steroids are the same, if someone OD's or an incident like the Benoit situation happens, it wasn't the steroids that killed the people, it was the people involved making poor decisions that did the killing.
Saying I want to vote for Ron Paul "simply" because he will legalize my rec. drugs is idiotic and insulting and narrows the scope of his argument and does a disservice to yourself. If you bothered to read the thread, his other views and attitudes are, if enacted, extremely beneficial.
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Regarding the argument that he is meant to split the conservative vote.... I already refuted this argument. Ron Paul is not a third party candidate, and has no intention to run as a third party candidate for President if he is not nominated as the republican candidate for the presidency. There is no splitting of the vote. Ron Paul needs your votes for the Primary first.
Ross Perot ran as a third party candidate in the Reform Party, this DID affect the two other parties by subtracting votes from their base, in effect "splitting" the vote, as you say, however, that is not the case here with Ron Paul. Ron Paul is attempting to get the Republican nomination, if he is successful there will be just 2 candidates, as usual, with Ron Paul vs probably Hillary Clinton. No splitting of the vote.

Excellent post. I believe Mr.Paul isn't going to run as a 3rd party for that very reason, that if he doesnt win he would at least like to see a Republican have a shot. Honestly, I am not happy with Bush at all. However, Hillary Clinton is proposing over 700 BILLION dollars in social programs, that you and I are going to have to pay for. Honestly, I dont want to pay for some ghetto mom who wont stop poppin out kids like a damn vending machine, to continue to pop out kids like a vending machine, and be a lazy piece of shit and not work. END THE WELLFARE STATE!...Wellfare is one of the worst things thats ever happened to this country. Its so bad that they even rap about it in rap songs, "Government cheese." These people are taking advantage of the system set up with good intentions to help people really bad off. Remember the rapper ODB? He was pulling up to the place to get food stamps, IN HIS LIMO. People like that need to get a slug in the head.

[convalescence69]

Thanks for backing me up man. I just checked Ron Paul's site, he won another 2 straw polls, one in nevada and the other in oregon, first place in both. http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
This guy actually has a chance to win, don't think that he doesn't, the media and big money heads want you to think he doesn't stand a chance. He's won more straw polls than any other candidate, wins all the debate polls, the people are definitely behind him. I'm doing my best to get the word out. Please talk to your friends and family that aren't as internet savvy, let them know whats up.

[billybambam]

RonPaul2008.com
Border Security and Immigration Reform
The talk must stop. We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked. This is my six point plan:

Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
Enforce visa rules. Immigration officials must track visa holders and deport anyone who overstays their visa or otherwise violates U.S. law. This is especially important when we recall that a number of 9/11 terrorists had expired visas.
No amnesty. Estimates suggest that 10 to 20 million people are in our country illegally. That’s a lot of people to reward for breaking our laws.
No welfare for illegal aliens. Americans have welcomed immigrants who seek opportunity, work hard, and play by the rules. But taxpayers should not pay for illegal immigrants who use hospitals, clinics, schools, roads, and social services.
End birthright citizenship. As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be citizens, the incentive to enter the U.S. illegally will remain strong.
Pass true immigration reform. The current system is incoherent and unfair. But current reform proposals would allow up to 60 million more immigrants into our country, according to the Heritage Foundation. This is insanity. Legal immigrants from all countries should face the same rules and waiting periods.

Big 10-4!
I agree 100%

[convalescence69]

Big 10-4!
I agree 100%

See, even more of a reason to like him!

[Logan13]

I think you are oversimplifying the situation, and are doing so in a disrespectful way. I do not use recreational drugs (pot, etc), but I also don't think I have the right to tell you that you can't. I don't think its right that our government is codemning good people to get ass raped in jail because they want to try out t-bol.
The purpose of making the post was to bring a level of awareness of the issues and how they can be changed to a group of people that could be positively affected by that change, and have the ability to influence that change.
I didn't make the post "Vote Ron Paul because he will build a wall on the border with Mexico", that would be a foolish opener because it doesn't apply to the subject or nature of this forum. What concerns the people here is that they are forced to be affraid of the authorities and the consequences of being caught purchasing and using substances that in reality should be totally within their rights to use. I own my body, not the government, I can do what I want to it, and I can put in it what i want.
Consider the attitude towards guns. Some people think because a guy was murdered with a gun then guns should be banned. That is idiotic. A person killed another person, the gun was just an implement. What if he used a rock? Ban rocks? Steroids are the same, if someone OD's or an incident like the Benoit situation happens, it wasn't the steroids that killed the people, it was the people involved making poor decisions that did the killing.
Saying I want to vote for Ron Paul "simply" because he will legalize my rec. drugs is idiotic and insulting and narrows the scope of his argument and does a disservice to yourself. If you bothered to read the thread, his other views and attitudes are, if enacted, extremely beneficial.
--------------------------
Regarding the argument that he is meant to split the conservative vote.... I already refuted this argument. Ron Paul is not a third party candidate, and has no intention to run as a third party candidate for President if he is not nominated as the republican candidate for the presidency. There is no splitting of the vote. Ron Paul needs your votes for the Primary first.
Ross Perot ran as a third party candidate in the Reform Party, this DID affect the two other parties by subtracting votes from their base, in effect "splitting" the vote, as you say, however, that is not the case here with Ron Paul. Ron Paul is attempting to get the Republican nomination, if he is successful there will be just 2 candidates, as usual, with Ron Paul vs probably Hillary Clinton. No splitting of the vote.

I am not a fan of pot-heads getting 5-10 years in prison, no more than I am a fan of AAS being classified as a controlled substance. But nominating Ron Paul to the Preseidency will not change these laws. It is Congress that mandates the sentencing guidelines, not the President. I was a fan of Perot and I do like some of Paul's conservative stances, but he will never get the nomination. If he runs on a third party ticket, he will indeed takes some votes away.

[convalescence69]

I am not a fan of pot-heads getting 5-10 years in prison, no more than I am a fan of AAS being classified as a controlled substance. But nominating Ron Paul to the Preseidency will not change these laws. It is Congress that mandates the sentencing guidelines, not the President. I was a fan of Perot and I do like some of Paul's conservative stances, but he will never get the nomination. If he runs on a third party ticket, he will indeed takes some votes away.

Gotta have some optimism. An attitude like that, if it were embraced by everyone, we might as well put on the shackles now and give up.
Look at his Straw Poll results vs the other republican candidates :

Ron Paul's Head-to-Head Straw Poll Records (Win-Lose-Tie):
Ron Paul v. Rudy Giuliani 31-5-0
Ron Paul v. Mitt Romney 24-12-0
Ron Paul v. Fred Thompson 21-14-0
Ron Paul v. John McCain 32-3-0
Ron Paul v. Mike Huckabee 30-4-1
Ron Paul v. Sam Brownback 32-2-1
Ron Paul v. Tom Tancredo 33-1-0
Ron Paul v. Duncan Hunter 32-2-0
This is no BS, these are the real results. HE CAN WIN. The other jerkoffs that stand to lose their asses if he gets in just want you to think he's got no chance.

[goaheadandhitme]

http://www.theguyfromboston.com/play...eo=6BvNv7IkF3I

[convalescence69]

http://www.theguyfromboston.com/play...eo=6BvNv7IkF3I

Dude! that was funny!
Ron Paul isn't on that list though, his record is spotless.

[goaheadandhitme]

yea I just thought it was funny, may not even accurate.. but still funny

[goaheadandhitme]

heres another one

http://www.theguyfromboston.com/play...eo=9JoaS7CA03s

[Logan13]

Gotta have some optimism. An attitude like that, if it were embraced by everyone, we might as well put on the shackles now and give up.
Look at his Straw Poll results vs the other republican candidates :

Ron Paul's Head-to-Head Straw Poll Records (Win-Lose-Tie):
Ron Paul v. Rudy Giuliani 31-5-0
Ron Paul v. Mitt Romney 24-12-0
Ron Paul v. Fred Thompson 21-14-0
Ron Paul v. John McCain 32-3-0
Ron Paul v. Mike Huckabee 30-4-1
Ron Paul v. Sam Brownback 32-2-1
Ron Paul v. Tom Tancredo 33-1-0
Ron Paul v. Duncan Hunter 32-2-0
This is no BS, these are the real results. HE CAN WIN. The other jerkoffs that stand to lose their asses if he gets in just want you to think he's got no chance.

straw votes, seriously?

[convalescence69]

straw votes, seriously?

Here's a link to the definition of what a straw poll is and why they matter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_Poll
And yes he is winning them, consistently. Check http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/ to see the official results.
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And concerning goaheadandhitme's posts on the Guy From Boston, looks like The Guy From Boston doesn't like mexican immigration either http://www.theguyfromboston.com/play...eo=yPEr3LSr4pA pretty funny in a serious sort of way.

[Logan13]

Here's a link to the definition of what a straw poll is and why they matter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_Poll
And yes he is winning them, consistently. Check http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/ to see the official results.

I know what a straw vote is, and therefore know how insignificant they are..
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08rep.htm
LIKELY voters, which the straw vote does not take into consideration............
"If the 2008 Republican presidential primary were held today, for whom would you vote if the candidates were"
10/14/2007
Rudy Giuliani 29%
Fred Thompson 16
John McCain 12
Mitt Romney 11
Mike Huckabee 5
Sam Brownback 2
Ron Paul 2%
Tom Tancredo 2
Duncan Hunter 1
Other (vol.) 1
Unsure 17
Wouldn't vote (vol.) 3
Newt Gingrich n/a
Chuck Hagel n/a
Tommy Thompson n/a
Jim Gilmore n/a

[convalescence69]

Just can't argue with your pertinacity.

[SnaX]

Rudy Giuliani 29%............. this guy is an as5hat, and he needs to eat my sh!t. I bet he can't go through a debate or an interview without saying "September 11th" I think it's all he's got because that 911 sh!t happened in his state.

I really want Ron Paul to win. I think we should write emails into news stations, and have them give Ron Paul more coverage! Get his voice out there.

But not on Bill O'Reilly because he is a big Douche as well. I've seen his "no spin zone" where he just badgers people and turns their mics off because he can't make them look bad. His 'talkshow' needs to be taken off the air.


Anyways.. oh yeah Ron Paul 2008! (for a number of reasons)

[Logan13]

Just can't argue with your pertinacity.

no, you can't argue with facts.
Do not wager any money on a straw vote.
Do cast a straw vote, you must:
be a delegate(or former delegate)
pay a fee(usually $20 - $35 each) to vote

[convalescence69]

no, you can't argue with facts.
Do not wager any money on a straw vote.
Do cast a straw vote, you must:
be a delegate(or former delegate)
pay a fee(usually $20 - $35 each) to vote

Who's side are you on here? You know what, you're probably right, he probably doesn't stand a chance, but instead of embracing this defeatest attitude that I can't do crappola about it I am at least trying to make a change for the better.
And concerning the facts; consider the source. Ron Paul has more money than McCain and Ron Pauls donations are from regular people since Ron Paul's platform seeks to injure corporate thievery and corruption, so he doesn't get craploads of money from big business. So if he has more money contributed to him from the middle and lower ecomnomic strata and more money than a more popular candidate in the polls, that tells me something is wrong with the polls. Your poll there has Ron Paul at 2% and McCain at 12%. How does a guy that has 6 times the support in a poll have less donations than a guy with 2%?
Even if I am right and the polls are wrong, lets say he does have more support than any candidate, I still think the voting would be rigged, so again, you'd be right. But ya know, F*ck that defeatest crap!

[Logan13]

Who's side are you on here? You know what, you're probably right, he probably doesn't stand a chance, but instead of embracing this defeatest attitude that I can't do crappola about it I am at least trying to make a change for the better.
And concerning the facts; consider the source. Ron Paul has more money than McCain and Ron Pauls donations are from regular people since Ron Paul's platform seeks to injure corporate thievery and corruption, so he doesn't get craploads of money from big business. So if he has more money contributed to him from the middle and lower ecomnomic strata and more money than a more popular candidate in the polls, that tells me something is wrong with the polls. Your poll there has Ron Paul at 2% and McCain at 12%. How does a guy that has 6 times the support in a poll have less donations than a guy with 2%?
Even if I am right and the polls are wrong, lets say he does have more support than any candidate, I still think the voting would be rigged, so again, you'd be right. But ya know, F*ck that defeatest crap!

Just keeping this real. Kidding yourself about the reality of the situation will not further your cause. If you feel this strongly about him, get involved with his local office. BTW, McCain is not fit to be President.

[convalescence69]

Just keeping this real. Kidding yourself about the reality of the situation will not further your cause. If you feel this strongly about him, get involved with his local office. BTW, McCain is not fit to be President.

McCain isn't, no, none of them idiots are, same with all them Dem's that are running. Other GOP = spread the war, spend more on war. Dems = stabilize the war, spend billions more on ineffective government programs. Ron Paul = end the war, eliminate wasteful spending on government programs.

For anyone that is near Orlando, FL, Ron Paul will be in town on the 21st for the Fox Debates. He will be dropping into some of the local rallies, if anyone wants a chance to hear him speak and maybe meet him directly. He will be in the Tampa area later sometime in November.

[Maldorf]

This is from his campaign office today:

"October 20, 2007


The clock is ticking. And it is now ticking faster than anyone anticipated.

The New Hampshire primary could be held as early as December 11. Earlier this week, Iowa moved its caucus date to January 3. With these two key states having moved up their dates, we are running out of time fast; especially when you consider the upcoming Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays.

So, we're now in full campaign mode. We just bought $430,000 of radio air time to introduce Ron Paul to voters in New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina and Nevada. That sounds like a lot of money, but that $430,000 will pay for only two weeks. That's right, almost a half million dollars for only two weeks of radio time in just four states.

You can see that the $5 million we have in the bank won't last for long; especially when you factor in money for the production and broadcast of high-quality TV ads.

We know Dr. Paul and what he stands for, but most Americans don't. That's why we will have to spend millions of dollars for radio and TV to introduce Dr. Paul and his message - our message - of freedom, peace and prosperity to millions of Americans for the first time. And we have little time to do it.

We've set a goal of raising $430,000 in three days. Will you help us?

Listen to our new radio ad and donate today. The campaign is in full swing. We have little time.

Please help us broadcast freedom from coast to coast. Go to http://www.ronpaul2008.com/ today.

Thank you!

Kent Snyder
Chairman
Ron Paul 2008"

[RuhlFreak55]

if that guliani assbag gets the nomination i'll have to vote for hillary someone stop the stupid republicans.....jesus how dumb can they get as a party?

[Maldorf]

if that guliani assbag gets the nomination i'll have to vote for hillary someone stop the stupid republicans.....jesus how dumb can they get as a party?

Yes, I have to agree there. Hopefully though Hillary wont end up the democratic nominee. Not sure who I would choose from the Democrats. Obama maybe?

[Logan13]

Yes, I have to agree there. Hopefully though Hillary wont end up the democratic nominee. Not sure who I would choose from the Democrats. Obama maybe?

It will be Clinton/Giuliani........
I will be voting for Mike Huckabee in the primaries, if he lasts that long.......

[RuhlFreak55]

Yes, I have to agree there. Hopefully though Hillary wont end up the democratic nominee. Not sure who I would choose from the Democrats. Obama maybe?

i dunno bama likes taxes just as much as the next democrat.....

[Logan13]

i dunno bama likes taxes just as much as the next democrat.....

which democrat do you think will actually NOT give you a tax hike?