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11-19-2009, 09:53 PM #41
I would be in heaven in that room.
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11-19-2009, 09:59 PM #42
lol sorry dude but i would have to agree with this being uneccessary. john rambo took on an entire army with less ammunition then this. own few guns with permits..sure. but why the **** would you need so many ****in machine guys man? i understand you are a collector...but i dont think anyone should be allowed to possess this many guns either..especially machine guns. what if some punk broke into your house when you werent there and got a hold of this shit?
you keep like 8 machine guns upstairs, incase you cant get to the infantry gear downstairs in the middle of the night? huh? where do you keep the war paint and camo....under your bed? lol. im not trying to insult you bro, but having machine guns scattered throughout your entire house 'just in case' seems a little radical for my taste. and if american laws allow people too keep their home that way, ide have to agree a little trimming down couldnt hurt.
i understand you are a collector, but these arent old world war muskets hung for decoration. youve got more machine guns then i own pairs of pants. that seems a little overboard dude.
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11-19-2009, 10:15 PM #43
go back to your socialist hole....in AMERICA we are free to protect ourselves and our loved ones in whatever way we see fit. NO ONE ELSE BESIDES YOURSELF HAS ANY RIGHT TELLING YOU WHAT YOU NEED AND DON'T NEED. If you can pay for it, you can have it. It's your prerogative......collectivism needs to DIE.
Seriously, anyone that thinks differently....that would think that they have ANY right to impose their ideals on my life, to control ANYTHING that I do, needs to die. People like that are a cancer upon humanity, and unfortunately cancers spread.....feels like it's time to cut some tumors out of this planet to me
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11-19-2009, 10:27 PM #44
LOL...
I appreciate all the comments.. and HOLY FCK DUDE WHY YOU GOT SO MUCH, UR CRAZY..
Ok.. one at a time.
Yes, 60% are Full Auto. The OTHER are of course. Semi-Auto. As you can see, I own a variety.
I have a valid class III stamp. The Atf knows of ALL my Necessary weapons.. which does also include fully auto handguns, such as my Glock 9mm.. That one is fun.. 33 rounds in under 2 seconds...
Yes.. Am I overboard.. a little.. but see what had happened was.. they were cheap at the time, I was YOUNGER and had a SH1TTON of money come my way... Pre-Obama my collection rivaled 150k mark.. now.. I bet I am over half a million.. if i wanted to be a dick and sell the full auto's at 25grand.. i picked some of them up at the hefty price tag of 10grand.. now the same weapon as i stated goes for 15k more.. see what happens when a democrat hits office.
Now... onto other things.. Yes I am collector.. WHY.. Am I waiting for a SHTF scenario.. YES.. the way this country is going it isn't unheard of to see America suffer the same demise as U.S.S.R. and disband into 7 or 8 separate countries. Zombie attack.. NO. But.. I am ready if say.. OH THE TALIBAN launches a full on war on HOMELAND SOIL.. again.. another scenario.. not too far fetched.. they prepare for such things over there.. kicking in DOMESTIC HOMES.. Killing the occupants and setting up base. This is REAL WORLD and anyone who doesn't believe it or thinks that idea is radical or hell.. COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN THE FVCKING MOVIES is seriously seriously mistaken.
THE USA has pissed off a lot a lot of people.. retaliation is imminent. I can say I am ready. Collector yes, but also a SMART BUSINESS MAN TOO.. What will NEVER DEPRECIATE DURING A TIME OF WAR??? A FIREARM AND AMMUNITION. My stockpile has tripled if not quadrupled in value.. BETTER THAN INVESTING IN THAT SHIT ASS STOCK MARKET NOW WOULDN'T YA SAY???
Will I ever NEED to use my Armory... Probably Not... Do I sleep comfortably .. YOU ARE FCKING RIGHT I DO.
As far as some dimwit kicking in my Door.. haha.. FIRST.. they would have to get by My Dog's... They are Nice Family Pets.. 120lb Razor Edge Bullies.. WOULDN'T HARM A HAIR ON ANYONE'S HEAD.. unless that person threatened the lives of My Family... then.. well.. they are in for a BIG.. BIG MISTAKE.
Second line of defense.. Home security system linked up directly to my local Police station.. who is aware I do Possess such Weaponry.. Had to clear it all with them when I got my CCW Permit.
Third Line... My Armory.. just like straight out of the fricken movies ladies and gentlemen.. FINGERPRINT Identification.. to access DOWNSTAIRS.. Then Also into the Armory itself. Then they'd have to crack a GUN SAFE which I am proud to say.. LOL.. is as secure as a BANK VAULT.
Fourth Line of DEFENSE. ME !! As you can Imagine.. I am A PRETTY GOOD SHOT.. Yes I am not HOME all the time, but with an investment like this.. WHO DOESN'T HAVE A DIGITAL SECURITY SYSTEM RECORDING ROUND THE CLOCK...
It's like a Millionaire and their Mansion.. they have EVERYTHING they need to protect their investment.. well so don't I.
Obviously I will not post up pictures of my House and all it's security measures for ummm.. well knowledge of how to learn to break them.. that's why this is A PEEK !!!
I just wanted ya'll to see where I am coming from when I talk about guns and how I am so passionate about them.. I can't help it.. I am addicted...
Yah so I was in a BAD MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT that almost took my life, I was in a coma for the better part of 6 months... I rehabbed for close to 18 months.. But when the LAWSUIT Settled and made me a Multi-Millionaire.. WHAT THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT A FRIGGEN GUN-ENTHUSIAST 25 year old to do?? Buy Cakes and whoopie pies !?!? Hell No, I sought retribution for what was stripped from me. I don't consider it DUMB in anyway spending money the way I did.. If I were to sell EVERY WEAPON I own.. I would turn a profit margin triple fold.. Now who can say that they did that kind of investment with their money??
How many of you LOST in the Stock Market this year?? I am sorry to hear you did... but each passing day.. My COLLECTION grows is Wealth. Yes I own Things That you THOUGHT only the Military and Police could own.. but you guys need to do research in THE CLASS III stamp.. it's a beautiful thing.. one of MY FAVORITE TOYS is a 9inch BBL Shorty 12 Gauge.. made by a company called SERBU. She's only 14" long total.. and BOY does she pack a wallop.. LOL.
It's not about being NUTS, OR CRAZY, OR Anything like that... it's about feeling safe and owning what YOU LOVE. It's my hobby. And My ONE LIFE THAT I GET ON THIS PLANET.. and BY GOD if I wanna own 100+ guns.. my 2ND AMENDMENT says I have every single right to do so...
SO WHAT IF THEY ARE ASSAULT RIFLES.. They are pretty... and I LOVE THE SMELL OF GUNPOWDER IN THE AFTERNOON..
Next round of questions?? Anyone got anything else they wanna ask.. or did I cover most of it??
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11-19-2009, 10:33 PM #45
I love the smell of diesel fuel in the morning personally.....but this gunpowder for the afternoon thing...i could get behind that.
and just for the record....my ford stock has returned 400% this year
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11-19-2009, 11:01 PM #46
Investing in AR's is a very Profitable and kick ass business too.. How many people can you say that you know that Stock up... with FIREARMS.. Not many...
but 7 out of 10 dabble in the stock market...
GUNS NEVER DEPRECIATE.. WHEN KEPT IN MINT CONDITION ANYWAYS... AND EVEN THEN... They never lose ALL their value...
It's a worthy investment... and a COOL one at the same time... I can literally FIRE a different Assault Rifle Everyday of the Month and never use the same one twice...
I even have 4 I have never even USED... NIB still.. I'll get around to plinking them...
One is the 6.8spc... Waiting for a GOOD DAY to go touch that one off... yeeeehaaaaw!!
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11-19-2009, 11:03 PM #47Anabolic Member
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WTF?
are u serious?
i dont understand u americans....
wtf is the purpose of such weaponery?
i mean seriously look at the size and collection u have of assault rifles
not saying anythings wrong with it, but not surprised why yous have such a high crime rate
i mean seriously if i had weapons like that id prob end up doing something stupid
but soz i agree with OBAMA
dont see why people need to have such weapons, that's not protection, that's obsession
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11-19-2009, 11:03 PM #48
I think your view is awesome...but i have to ask....are you SURE that you're not a Texan?
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11-19-2009, 11:06 PM #50
you never know when you're going to need to start an army
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what kind of long guns do you have? nothings sweeter than an 800yrd+ shot.
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11-20-2009, 12:30 AM #52
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11-20-2009, 12:42 AM #54
Let me help some of our foreign members understand...
The Second Amendment is second for a reason. The first amendment guarantees freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of press... you get the idea. The moment someone tries to take this from you... the second amendment comes into play. Our guns do serve to protect us from gangstas, crackheads, or even Osama's cronies, but they're primarily supposed to protect us from our own government!
Our friend's awesome collection of weapons is not just a right, but a necessity!
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dude bad shit happens to good people all over the world. so whats wrong with not wanting to be a statistic? the reason for having guns in various places in your house it that you never know where your gonna be when somebody breaks in. do you not have meth and crack heads where your from?
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11-20-2009, 12:56 AM #56
Exactly. He didn't.
** This is a general comment and not directed specifically at RuhlFreak
It's comments like these that will never allow people to understand your point of view. I consider myself quite liberal. Yet, I am a Christian, I do not want socialism, I'm pro-choice, I don't want kids to be taught about evolution, and I strongly believe in our right to bear arms --even as much as The Deuce has. Actually, his collection is quite impressive and I think he should have the right to collect such craftsmanship (as long as he doesn't infringe on the liberties of others). My point it, generalizations lead people downt he wrong path and cause conflict for no absolute reason. My motto is live and let live, as long as your living is not interfering with someone else's. This is my story and I'm sticking to it! Ok, ok, enough politics.
And I'll be following him....I'll even bring a couple boxes of ammo (I have alot of friends in the military).
Well, not if you're the intruder....lolLast edited by lawstudent007; 11-20-2009 at 12:58 AM. Reason: spelling
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11-20-2009, 12:59 AM #57
By the way, DEUCE: with your permission, I'd love to show a few of my military buddies your pics....they too are ready for WW III in their basement and bedrooms. :-)
I don't have any rifles or guns (yet), but for now I have knives all over my place, to protect myself (I'm a single woman, living alone). So, I definitely understand the need to be ready to protect yourself and those you hold dear.
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11-20-2009, 01:06 AM #58
honestly man, i think guns are ****in cool. ive shot an AK-47 and it was awesome. you're a collector and i can respect that especially since you aknowledge that your pile is over the top. ide also say that owning that much guns becomes more of a liability then protection. but everyone is a product of thier envorinment. you sleep with body armor and a room full of guns to feel safe. altho i do sleep with a couple guns *kisses biceps*(j/k)...i leave my door unlocked and own no more then a steak knife to defend myself. whether or not your fears are real or dellusional, im just glad i dont share them.
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11-20-2009, 04:49 AM #62
Fvcking hell!!!!!
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11-20-2009, 05:12 AM #63
deuce , got 1911 ??
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11-20-2009, 06:19 AM #64
High crime rate compared to? That's a blanket statement, rather ambiguous too. To be fair, and interestingly enough, the areas of our country which have some of the strictest gun control laws and ordinances have violent crime rates well above the national average. In contrast, areas of the country which once had violent crime rates significantly above the national average, saw their violent crime rates drop a couple of percentage points BELOW the national average after instituting "shall issue" conceal and carry laws. What this means is that any citizen can apply and be granted a permit to conceal a firearm on or about their person, so long as they don't have a criminal record or a history of being committed to a mental institution.
I'm going to try to avoid a policy debate, both because your political ideology in Australia is starkly different from ours here in the United States, and because most people are not informed enough on this particular issue to have a meaningful debate and really know what they are talking about. Rather, these debates usually end with me presenting rationed arguments supported by facts, statistics, and logic, and the other party retorting with emotional rhetoric and liberal propaganda without merit.
The primary reason for the 2nd Amendment in the Constitution, was as the peoples final line of defense against tyranny and oppressive government. In the event that legislative channels became corrupt or unresponsive to the citizenry, they would always have the ability to defend themselves with an effective tool, and in this case the firearm. The evidence is clear from documents, journals, letters, and other materials which the founding fathers and authors of the constitution left behind.
Furthermore, we can consider the practical and moral need for guns in today's American society. While it would be ideal to imagine a society where guns did not exist and were not available, this Utopian liberal wet dream is not a reality. Guns do exist, and criminals do have access to them. Whether or not we banned guns, and then rounded up all existing guns(an impossible task), criminals would still have a demand for guns. That means, that criminals would be able to obtain guns even if none were sold or manufactured in the United States. As we know, where there is a demand, there will ALWAYS be a supply. This is evidenced by the fact that illicit drugs are completely banned and not produced in the United States, yet millions of tons of marijuana and cocaine make it across our borders every single year. So what would happen in a situation like this, is that criminals would possess guns, and police would possess guns, yet the ordinary citizen would be at the mercy of criminals and would have to pray that a police officer can be everywhere at every time to protect the citizen from these armed criminals.
Rather, if one takes a pragmatic approach to the issue of firearms. One realizes that firearms are on Earth, and are here to stay. One then realizes that you must give the citizen the right to own these weapons in order to exercise his right endowed to him by his creator to protect himself with the best means possible. Furthermore, if we take a statistical approach, all evidence indicates that citizens who choose to obtain a CCW permit, are safer, more law abiding, and more responsible. Florida for instance, has issued 1.5 million CCW permits since 1986 when their law went into effect, and has revoked 166 of those permits for a gun related crime after issuance of the CCW permit. Those are impressive numbers, and they dispel the myth that the streets turn into the wild west, and people start drawing their weapons for every little argument. That is purely liberal propaganda, with absolutely no merit, and no factual evidence to support it. In contrast, Washington D.C. had a complete ban on handguns, and yet remained even into today, as a city with one of the highest murder rates related to gun crime in the country.
The last point we must consider with restraining the government from banning citizens to own firearms, is their equalizing effect. There exists no other weapon, which can give an elderly grandmother the ability to resist the attack from a younger, larger, stronger, faster attacker. A firearm in the hands of the elderly grandmother, gives her a fighting chance to overtake what would otherwise be an easy victory for her more powerful attacker. Additionally, there exists no other weapon which can give a person who may be outnumbered 10:1 the ability to fight off a violent or deadly attack, and be able to come out of that situation alive and maybe even unharmed. So whether criminals have guns or not, law abiding citizens should always retain their right to own and carry firearms for those aforementioned reasons.
Hopefully those of you in other countries will open your minds up and give real consideration to what I have said, and maybe think twice before criticizing our countries policy on firearms, and a societal value that we hold dear.
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11-20-2009, 07:17 AM #65
The US has the most vast differences between its own peoples of all the countries of the world to my mind. Nowhere else do you have so many of the richest in the world living in the same country as the poorest and no where else do you have such a melting pot of cultures and ethnicities. I can't think of a worse starting point when trying to build social cohesion on a state/national scale. I mean just look at the pervasiveness of gated communities in the US. People are forced to take measures to create a community of similar people and that's why citizens of the US will always need guns, cos most of them can't afford to build their own gated community, so they need another way to keep out the scummy people.
The way America is especially with the idea of anyone can make it, massive riches next to massive poverty, and a thousand cultures banging heads together, it will always have these massive societal divisions and it will always have the worst crime rates of the western world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate
I know that if I for one lived in the US I would be arming myself to the hilt and moving to the nearest gated community asap.
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11-20-2009, 07:35 AM #66
So, if 60% are full auto:
Is that a model 91 or a g3?
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11-20-2009, 08:08 AM #67
Lol
After reading the thread....if I was an American living in American, I would move to Canada.
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11-20-2009, 08:38 AM #73
I have never met a gun enthuesiest who called his rifles "assualt rifles"...that's the gov't label. We usually don't use them.
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11-20-2009, 09:18 AM #74
Reread....I said anyone that thinks they have a right to control another's life has forfeited their own. How does that mean that anyone of differing ideals needs to die? Yes they need to recognized the universal law that my life is mine and they have no right to have any say in it whatsoever. But above and beyond that they can think and be whatever they wish.
YOU....read the quote below....the sole PURPOSE of the 2nd amendment is to protect ourselves from government's that overstep their well defined bounds. Which ours has managed to do....they haven't so much stepped, but LEAPED out of their place, and it must be corrected.
right on, exactly right my friend....Tank needs to read and comprehend your post
Ok...but by all you've just said you're not a liberal (democrat), you are a libertarian.....so why do you identify with them when their fundamental basis is against what you believe? that people should be able to do what they want as long as it doesn't infringe on others. That's not a liberal ideal....they want control...they want handouts....they want....socialism
how could that POSSIBLY be a liability?
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11-20-2009, 09:31 AM #75
Hahaha i always know i'm reading a post by Deuce when its about a page long with random caps every couple of words.
By the way thats a crazy personal collection. I have a buddy with one like that. I understand owning a couple for protection,hunting, and fun but this is just nuts
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11-20-2009, 09:43 AM #76
Thank you for agreeing with me that it is a necessity...
Thanks Pete... Couldn't have said it better myself... YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO BE WHEN YOUR DOOR IS KICKED IN BY SOME SCUMBAG LOWLIFE..
Maybe this stems from My Sister (God rest her Soul) Who had her door kicked in by 3 Men and she was raped and then Slaughtered.. Had she had firearm protection I fully believe things would have taken a different turn of events... But.. I was too young to do anything, they did catch all 3 men. 1 hung himself before the court date. The other is Now Paralyzed from a Prison shanking.. and Him and the Other dude got LIFE W/O the Possibility of Parole.
Yes I give you permission hun.. If I were you I'd invest in something small and go to the range and learn how to use it.. I suggest either a KAHR P380 or if that's out of your price range a Ruger LCP or LCR and if YOU HAVE TO .. You can get a KEL*TEC (I advise against them... but they come chambered in .32acp which is a decent CCW round... but I prefer the 380auto...) It's what My Wife Carries.. 2 of them.. the KAHR P380.
How's it a Liability bro??
YES JBM I was WAITING for one of your Famous Pics !!!
Yes 6 of them.... 2 are Strictly Competition.. I shoot for the IDPA. The other 4 are my babies.. 1 is my CARRY and the other 3 are duly placed in certain areas... Nightstand/Kitchen drawer/Side of my Recliner.
Ummm, I refer to them as Assault Rifles because that is the category in which they are placed.. and it's easier to associate the name with what they are. Yes I call them Rifles to my buddies and such but for lack of knowledge in an environment such as this I figured AR was the appropriate term.. HAD I CALLED THEM RIFLES from the get go.. people would have been like
" Those aren't Rifles !! Those are Weapons of DEATH.. They are ASSAULT RIFLES !!"
So I just categorized them for what they are.
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11-20-2009, 09:54 AM #79
Thanks for the reply. I have a bolt carrier- picked it up on gun broker..
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