Wanted to offer you guys a PEEK..

[J-Dogg]

Just to toss the link out there,

after a quick google search the only reliable reference I could find on the amount of guns stolen from homes every year was about 600,000 from private residences.

And for the last 10 years, that good Ol' state of texas has ranked in the top 5 for the amount of guns stolen from private residences every year. A gun is stolen 1 out of every 17 homes in texas.

http://ojjdp.ncjrs.org/pubs/gun_violence/sect01.html

Signing off
-Mr Troubled Youth

[The Deuce]

ok.. ive shared, You all have offered your OWN Opinions of me.. COOL. Thanks for enlightening me...

I am curious about one thing and this thread will be done. I request a PM from YOU Darksyde.. as of which board you are speaking of. If you don't want to. That's fine. Your utter dislike for me is apparent.


And J-DOGG.. what up G.. youre WHITE.. why the name J-DOGG. I may be a redneck but at least I know the color of my skin... yo what up n shit !?! Nah jus Chillin Chillin u kno!! Aiight GANSTAAA Im out !! (wanna bash on me, I can throw it right back)

END OF THREAD on my end, Ya'll can go back to your regularly scheduled Programming Now.

[The Deuce]

Sometimes it's just better to keep your mouth shut...to many people have their own opinion on things and never know the full story..

Thank you for this.. NOW I KNOW...

[Hunter]

ok.. ive shared, You all have offered your OWN Opinions of me.. COOL. Thanks for enlightening me...

I am curious about one thing and this thread will be done. I request a PM from YOU Darksyde.. as of which board you are speaking of. If you don't want to. That's fine. Your utter dislike for me is apparent.


And J-DOGG.. what up G.. youre WHITE.. why the name J-DOGG. I may be a redneck but at least I know the color of my skin... yo what up n shit !?! Nah jus Chillin Chillin u kno!! Aiight GANSTAAA Im out !! (wanna bash on me, I can throw it right back)

END OF THREAD on my end, Ya'll can go back to your regularly scheduled Programming Now.

1st oft deuce, very nice collection. I myself am a hunting enthusiast and not so much a "gun" enthusiast, although a lifetime member of the NRA. By the way the little tag this is all fictional and what not really doesn't matter in the court of law from what I understand but I could be wrong. I myself see no reason to own that many rifles but I respect your right to.

Going after J-DOGG in the manner you did, does not help your case. Acting like black people act a certain way or white people act a certain way is just stupid .Just like it was not right for him to call you a redneck in my opinion.

[Deltasaurus]

awesome collection but i would take down this thread if i were u

[PistolPete33]

I don't understand how a forum such as this is so Anti-Gun. Doesn't make any sense. From reading some of the posts a lot of these guys are criminals and have led that lifestyle for a large portion of their lives. That being said I can see how they would be opposed to people "LEGALLY" owning firearms. It's a proven fact that criminals don't like legal gun owners because they can actually defend themselves against the coward criminals. And for the nonsense that people shouldn't own guns because criminals may steal them. SERIOUSLY???? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

Automobile deaths account for WAY more deaths and homicides than firearms. Drunk driving etc. and driving while texting causes more people to die than firearm related deaths. So, why don't we just ban automobiles and we will all be safer??? Yes, it's nonsense and so is banning firearms. There is a reason we have the 2nd ammendment and it's because our founding fathers knew the importance of self defense.

You can all criticize the OP for being a gun nut or whatever but what he is doing is completely legal. You may not like his collection etc. but again he is protected under the law. There is a lot more to that than the illegal behavior most on this forum follow.

Just food for thought.

[J-Dogg]

I don't understand how a forum such as this is so Anti-Gun. Doesn't make any sense. From reading some of the posts a lot of these guys are criminals and have led that lifestyle for a large portion of their lives. That being said I can see how they would be opposed to people "LEGALLY" owning firearms. It's a proven fact that criminals don't like legal gun owners because they can actually defend themselves against the coward criminals. And for the nonsense that people shouldn't own guns because criminals may steal them. SERIOUSLY???? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

Automobile deaths account for WAY more deaths and homicides than firearms. Drunk driving etc. and driving while texting causes more people to die than firearm related deaths. So, why don't we just ban automobiles and we will all be safer??? Yes, it's nonsense and so is banning firearms. There is a reason we have the 2nd ammendment and it's because our founding fathers knew the importance of self defense.

You can all criticize the OP for being a gun nut or whatever but what he is doing is completely legal. You may not like his collection etc. but again he is protected under the law. There is a lot more to that than the illegal behavior most on this forum follow.

Just food for thought.

Well I can't speak for anyone else, but only for myself.

I had my past, I did some bad things, I paid my dues. 10 years later, I've come a long way. Despite my short comings as a younger man, I'm an honerable man and a well off man today. I've came from a family with out much teaching or guidance, so I had to learn the hard way, the important thing is, I learned. Today, it's rare i make the same mistake with my life twice even if it's minor. I own a great profitable company, I love what I do, I have 10-20 employee's and other companies that work for me, I contribute to charities and have local fund raisers, I own multiple properties and this guy that got out of jail at 18, owned 5 houses by 24.

I'm also, probably about as far from a gang'sta as you can get. My brother's girlfriends name is Tracy and I nick name her "T" bone, so I guess you could assume with a nick name like "T" bone she would be a biker. My girl friends name is Sally and I call her "S" money, but the girl is generally broke, lol.

I'm comfortable calling duce ignorant and a red neck by his belifes and the fact he has a arsinal in his basement and is in his home 95% of the time. He has 5% of the time to be outside seeing what the world is really like, I think it's safe to assume a person like that would lack some real life reality. As far as red neck, i'm sure he's proud of that lable, and it's a life style, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it either.

I have my opinion, and from it, what I'm saying is 600,000 guns are stolen from homes every year. Like I posted above the area's where guns are the most common, are the area's that the most guns are stolen. A lot of states require to have proper gun safes, and I think that's a great law to have too. People generally are not going to look to have a shoot out with you, to get a brief case with 3 hand guns in it, but they are willing to break in when you are not home.

Also, if you read the link above I posted, 30$% of criminals that are caught with guns, stole the gun themselves. That gun that criminal pulls on you and your wife in the park when he wants your watch, it probably came from a local house that did not have a proper gun safe. Probably someone who left 1 in the bread cabinet, one under the bed and one under the couch cusion. But hey, just put 6 guns in every house right? Then no one would ever try to steal from anyone.

[oscarjones]

My question still stands....

[PistolPete33]

My question still stands....

What does being shot before have anything to do with being a gunowner? It has no relevence.

[DSM4Life]

i like turtles

[PistolPete33]

Well I can't speak for anyone else, but only for myself.

I had my past, I did some bad things, I paid my dues. 10 years later, I've come a long way. Despite my short comings as a younger man, I'm an honerable man and a well off man today. I've came from a family with out much teaching or guidance, so I had to learn the hard way, the important thing is, I learned. Today, it's rare i make the same mistake with my life twice even if it's minor. I own a great profitable company, I love what I do, I have 10-20 employee's and other companies that work for me, I contribute to charities and have local fund raisers, I own multiple properties and this guy that got out of jail at 18, owned 5 houses by 24.

I'm also, probably about as far from a gang'sta as you can get. My brother's girlfriends name is Tracy and I nick name her "T" bone, so I guess you could assume with a nick name like "T" bone she would be a biker. My girl friends name is Sally and I call her "S" money, but the girl is generally broke, lol.

I'm comfortable calling duce ignorant and a red neck by his belifes and the fact he has a arsinal in his basement and is in his home 95% of the time. He has 5% of the time to be outside seeing what the world is really like, I think it's safe to assume a person like that would lack some real life reality. As far as red neck, i'm sure he's proud of that lable, and it's a life style, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it either.

I have my opinion, and from it, what I'm saying is 600,000 guns are stolen from homes every year. Like I posted above the area's where guns are the most common, are the area's that the most guns are stolen. A lot of states require to have proper gun safes, and I think that's a great law to have too. People generally are not going to look to have a shoot out with you, to get a brief case with 3 hand guns in it, but they are willing to break in when you are not home.

Also, if you read the link above I posted, 30$% of criminals that are caught with guns, stole the gun themselves. That gun that criminal pulls on you and your wife in the park when he wants your watch, it probably came from a local house that did not have a proper gun safe. Probably someone who left 1 in the bread cabinet, one under the bed and one under the couch cusion. But hey, just put 6 guns in every house right? Then no one would ever try to steal from anyone.

I applaud you for turning your life around and leaving a world of crime. However, according to your logic you make no sense. So you need to punish the law abiding citizen because the criminal is able to steal and get their hands on a firearm? So, because the act of a person obtaining something ILLEGALLY you need to take the rights away of the people that obtain them LEGALLY? Doesn't make any sense.

According to your logic then we should be banning ALL prescription drugs. I mean after all so many people get them ILLEGALLY and they abuse them causing death to themselves and others. These drugs then could be to blame for the criminal activity of the abusers trying to get their next fix.

I understand you don't like guns but banning them won't make them go away. After all steroids are illegal in the U.S. but somehow and I'm not sure how some people actually still get them. It's quite amazing. Also, all recreational drugs are illegal yet we still have a drug problem in this country? How the hell can that be.

Thanks to the media firearms have become a sore subject but our history is what it is because of firearms. There is a huge tradition built around the shooting sports and not all guns as I mentioned are used for self defense or for crime.

Guns aren't going away and in fact since Obama has been elected into office MORE people than ever are becoming gunowners. More people are buying up even more guns and ammo. Even with him in office our guns are not going away. We are protected by the 2nd ammendment are we won't stop fighting to keep our rights. I mean if they take that away what is next Free Speech? Oh wait, they are trying to take that away too...

[oscarjones]

What does being shot before have anything to do with being a gunowner? It has no relevence.

I rest my case...

[lawstudent007]

i like turtles

Yeah turtles are such PEACEFUL, MELLOW creatures.

[beatango2008]

i like turtles

I had a dream about turtles the other night....

[Hazard]

I'm saying, I can tell you that guns are a very hot thing on the black market and despite what Haz see's on Son's of Anarchy, there are not gun vendors all over the streets.

For the record..... I DO NOT WATCH THAT SHOW

~Haz~

[LionsGate]

His random caps shows hes unstable. thats crazy ocd sh*t

i bet if u do take on a taliban army will you leave every 5th one alive? ocd

he thinks these situations out all the time. gunning 30 people down thru his front door etc etc? man, life is to great to be paranoid all the time.

remember. u become what you think about. in this case u will shoot someone, it seems to be a dying itch/fantasy.

my challenge to you: ask a therapist if this is healthy. would like to hear his/her take on this.

[Hazard]

His random caps shows hes unstable. thats crazy ocd sh*t

i bet if u do take on a taliban army will you leave every 5th one alive? ocd

he thinks these situations out all the time. gunning 30 people down thru his front door etc etc? man, life is to great to be paranoid all the time.

remember. u become what you think about. in this case u will shoot someone, it seems to be a dying itch/fantasy.

my challenge to you: ask a therapist if this is healthy. would like to hear his/her take on this.

Who are we to tell anyone how to live their life? Just because he mentioned a "scenario" doesn't make him crazy. I guess the writers for the "saw" movies are nuts also? It's called imagination.....

Deuce is protected by the 2nd amendment..... he's not doing anything illegal. He can live his life the way he chooses because it's HIS LIFE..... not yours. If he wanted to lay in the grass and wach it grow 18 hours out of a day and then eat dog shit for dinner..... WHO THE FVCK CARES!?!? It's not your life.... and not only that...... you know his "internet persona" not who he is in real life. He very well could have been the guy who held a door open for you last week.....

This is getting sickening actually..... If he was doing something illegal - then you may have grounds to tell him he's wrong. Except for the select few who come here for diet/training/suppliment advice..... you're all acting quite hypocritical. Your "bashing" a guy for his guns (which he has obtained LEGALLY within the LAW) and you're all using illegal substances......


~Haz~

[oscarjones]

The point is not WHETHER it is illegal, we all know about our rights. The question is, are our current rights what is enabling us to establish such a vindictive society, based on fear and turmoil from abroad?

Just because something is law, doesn't make it right. AAS are illegal, but everyone here will preach how if used properly they are relatively harmless.

I am sure THE DEUCE feels empowered by his personal arsenal, and that as such its perpetuates his desire for self-preservation. However, where's the faith?

My guess is, if anyone breaks into your home it's because your fearful energy attracted them. GL man, hope you know how serious the price of a life is.

[LionsGate]

Who are we to tell anyone how to live their life? Just because he mentioned a "scenario" doesn't make him crazy. I guess the writers for the "saw" movies are nuts also? It's called imagination.....

Deuce is protected by the 2nd amendment..... he's not doing anything illegal. He can live his life the way he chooses because it's HIS LIFE..... not yours. If he wanted to lay in the grass and wach it grow 18 hours out of a day and then eat dog shit for dinner..... WHO THE FVCK CARES!?!? It's not your life.... and not only that...... you know his "internet persona" not who he is in real life. He very well could have been the guy who held a door open for you last week.....

This is getting sickening actually..... If he was doing something illegal - then you may have grounds to tell him he's wrong. Except for the select few who come here for diet/training/suppliment advice..... you're all acting quite hypocritical. Your "bashing" a guy for his guns (which he has obtained LEGALLY within the LAW) and you're all using illegal substances......


~Haz~

the caps comment was a joke.

but really. collecting is one thing. the hypothetical SHTF,trigger happy, ill kill anyone in blink of an eye just try me, is just scary. its one thing to collect legally and show off. its another to spew combatitive paranoia redderick.as someone said before. he does seem scared. living this paranoid does and cannot be healthy.

"we dont see things how they are, we see things how we are"

in this case. fearful and overly paranoid.

sure, saw writers and taratino have active imaginations, and they may tap into it more for the sake of writing scripts. but i doubt they live in a fortress and home bound 95% of the time to feel safe. i know and see people like this. we call it san bernardino here. they arnt bad people. but just seems they live in a self manipulated mental prison.

lets put the two together and have him write a red dawn 2 script.

but seriously, theres religious people and there's religious nuts. same with gun enthusiasts. pistolpete is an avid collector and enthusiast. NOTHING wrong with that. but i also dont see him daring people to get froggy.

[PistolPete33]

but seriously, theres religious people and there's religious nuts. same with gun enthusiasts. pistolpete is an avid collector and enthusiast. NOTHING wrong with that. but i also dont see him daring people to get froggy.

Honestly, I love shooting and for me it's great stress relief. I don't call my firearms weapons or anything like that. It's a tool and I use that tool for sporting. As I mentioned I have self defense guns for sure but I'm not a Tacti-Cool person running around thinking I'm better than anyone when I'm carrying. I've also been involved in Martial Arts almost my entire life so if things were to go bad even if I was carrying it would be a LAST resort of pulling the firearm. I protect my family and my home with common sense and awareness not by having firearms stashed around my house.

That being said there is nothing wrong with being a "NUT" as we call it. We are all obsessive people here. People ask me all the time "why do you want to gain weight? or why do you want to get bigger?" We're all chasing bigger muscles and a more tone body. To many that makes us crazy. To each his own. We are all obsessive about different things. These differences are what make our society interesting...

Can't we all just get along?

[LionsGate]

We are all obsessive about different things. These differences are what make our society interesting...

and these boards. luv it


nothing wrong with a healthy obsession.

im a decent shot with a glock 19 and mini 14. dont laugh. wish i had more money to collect some nicer guns like u.

my dad taught me with a pee shooter called a ruger .22. he said cuz ammunition was cheap.

love to shoot too. but intent is everything.

[Dont wanna be old]

deuce, what cha got for long guns?

I am sure it's a Barret 50 cal with a bi-pod .

[Hunter]

I have been involved with self defense for a very long time. I also have my ccw permit. For a woman its much smarter to have a ccw. It takes a very long time to become proficient in any martial art not to mention most are garbage for self defense. You also have to look at the fear aspect and just physical differences between men and woman. It is much smarter for a woman to get a ccw in 2-3 months(saying she has never used a firearm) she is going to be proficient and more importantly feel much safer then taking a self defense course for 3-5 years to become proficient in that.

I myself dont shoot in competition but I do shoot bow in competition. I feel comfortable enough with a couple handguns placed in my house to be able to defend my family. Which is why I dont have the kind of weaponry deuce has nor do I collect it. However deuce is within his rights and really in a shit hits the fan scenario deuce would be very well prepared.

Keep collecting deuce and be safe.

[J-Dogg]

I applaud you for turning your life around and leaving a world of crime. However, according to your logic you make no sense. So you need to punish the law abiding citizen because the criminal is able to steal and get their hands on a firearm? So, because the act of a person obtaining something ILLEGALLY you need to take the rights away of the people that obtain them LEGALLY? Doesn't make any sense.

According to your logic then we should be banning ALL prescription drugs. I mean after all so many people get them ILLEGALLY and they abuse them causing death to themselves and others. These drugs then could be to blame for the criminal activity of the abusers trying to get their next fix.

I understand you don't like guns but banning them won't make them go away. After all steroids are illegal in the U.S. but somehow and I'm not sure how some people actually still get them. It's quite amazing. Also, all recreational drugs are illegal yet we still have a drug problem in this country? How the hell can that be.

Thanks to the media firearms have become a sore subject but our history is what it is because of firearms. There is a huge tradition built around the shooting sports and not all guns as I mentioned are used for self defense or for crime.

Guns aren't going away and in fact since Obama has been elected into office MORE people than ever are becoming gunowners. More people are buying up even more guns and ammo. Even with him in office our guns are not going away. We are protected by the 2nd ammendment are we won't stop fighting to keep our rights. I mean if they take that away what is next Free Speech? Oh wait, they are trying to take that away too...

I've said it once, and I'll say it again too....some times we all have to sacrifice a little, at the cost of few who ruin somthing. It's just how it is.

Do I think no one should be allowed to have a gun? Hell no. But I do think it needs to be more controled.

I don't think any citizen needs assualt rifles, I don't think any citizen needs a safe of hand guns. Want to talk 2nd amendment? I don't care if every single house has a muzzle loader bro, but there is no reason anyone needs to have 5 assult rifles hidden and loaded through out there house.

My whole family hunts, I don't care for it. But they all have a 30/30 or a few rifles in the gun safe. But why does anyone need a basement full of assult weapons?

Same goes with A.S....if you just have enough for personal use it would not be an issue. But start keeping 1,000 vials of test around, and you start to attract attention and put everyone elses freedom (if it were leagal) at risk. I think it should be leagal with a doctor script. But the people who brew it in bath tubs are the people who ruin that. I feel the same about guns.

[Hazard]

and these boards. luv it


nothing wrong with a healthy obsession.

im a decent shot with a glock 19 and mini 14. dont laugh. wish i had more money to collect some nicer guns like u.

my dad taught me with a pee shooter called a ruger .22. he said cuz ammunition was cheap.

love to shoot too. but intent is everything.

What exactly is a healthy obsession?

My wife thinks my bodybuilding is an unhealthy obsession even tho she doesn't know I use aas.....

My friends wife thinks his passion for cars is an unhealthy obsession......

My other friends wife thinks his golfing is an unhealthy obsesion.....

It all comes down to how someones "obsession" effects YOU personally...... if you don't like it..... you call it an unhealthy obsession. Deuce thinks it's perfectly fine..... many of you think it's unhealthy..... whatever...... it's opinion.

Just saying.....
~Haz~

[PistolPete33]

I've said it once, and I'll say it again too....some times we all have to sacrifice a little, at the cost of few who ruin somthing. It's just how it is.

Do I think no one should be allowed to have a gun? Hell no. But I do think it needs to be more controled.

I don't think any citizen needs assualt rifles, I don't think any citizen needs a safe of hand guns. Want to talk 2nd amendment? I don't care if every single house has a muzzle loader bro, but there is no reason anyone needs to have 5 assult rifles hidden and loaded through out there house.

My whole family hunts, I don't care for it. But they all have a 30/30 or a few rifles in the gun safe. But why does anyone need a basement full of assult weapons?

Same goes with A.S....if you just have enough for personal use it would not be an issue. But start keeping 1,000 vials of test around, and you start to attract attention and put everyone elses freedom (if it were leagal) at risk. I think it should be leagal with a doctor script. But the people who brew it in bath tubs are the people who ruin that. I feel the same about guns.

What does it matter if I have 1 or 50 firearms? So now you're saying the government should be able to tell me what I can purchase with the money i earn? So, let's say you play video games but the government decides you should only be able to have 3 games. Is that fair? Nope.... Same thing here.

As far as "assault weapons" go it's total B.S. The media has hyped these up to be killing machines blah blah blah. Sure, some people have used them to kill others but percentage wise they are almost NEVER used in a crime.

Also, the AR-15 is the #1 SPORTING RIFLE IN THE COUNTRY so because you are afraid of them I shouldn't be able to own one? So, if I'm afraid of people that drive large SUV's then they should be banned as well? After all nobody "NEEDS" and Expedition but people still "CHOOSE" to buy them. It's a free market and so long as we are within the law we can buy as much or as little as we want. I have many firearms and some of which I don't have much use for. They too were impulse buys but it's my money and I chose to buy them.

I keep all my firearms locked in a safe and you will be hard pressed to find someone safer with a firearm than myself. But, use some logic here. I understand you don't like guns and I don't like people that smoke. Smokers do more harm to me than gunowners because I have to breathe their nasty habbit even against my choice. However, they have a right to smoke just as I have a right to own firearms.

[james21]

Would some criminals still have guns? Sure they would!

Your low life criminals who generally break in your house, rob you, steal from you and rape your wife are the ones who don't have over sea's connections to buy importanted guns.

Trust me, I was a hooldem once in my life, I did my time for it. The guns on the street are stolen out of homes, ground, and sold.

You do realize it's not like on TV that you can just purchase guns on every street corner in Chi town right? They are actually hard to come buy, and for a lot of guys I use to hang out with, getting those guns was far more valuble than drugs or any thing of value, TVs, Cars, what ever it maybe guns are the things criminals want.

And a smart criminal that is importing guns, is not going to be dumb enough to sell them to just any crack head.

Guns are so easy to purchase, is why there are so many on the street. I can go to walmart right now, even though I'm 5 deep into a 12 pack and walk out with a 12ga and a box of shells.

hahaha omg im pro gun but thats great.

[J-Dogg]

What does it matter if I have 1 or 50 firearms? So now you're saying the government should be able to tell me what I can purchase with the money i earn? So, let's say you play video games but the government decides you should only be able to have 3 games. Is that fair? Nope.... Same thing here.

As far as "assault weapons" go it's total B.S. The media has hyped these up to be killing machines blah blah blah. Sure, some people have used them to kill others but percentage wise they are almost NEVER used in a crime.

Also, the AR-15 is the #1 SPORTING RIFLE IN THE COUNTRY so because you are afraid of them I shouldn't be able to own one? So, if I'm afraid of people that drive large SUV's then they should be banned as well? After all nobody "NEEDS" and Expedition but people still "CHOOSE" to buy them. It's a free market and so long as we are within the law we can buy as much or as little as we want. I have many firearms and some of which I don't have much use for. They too were impulse buys but it's my money and I chose to buy them.

I keep all my firearms locked in a safe and you will be hard pressed to find someone safer with a firearm than myself. But, use some logic here. I understand you don't like guns and I don't like people that smoke. Smokers do more harm to me than gunowners because I have to breathe their nasty habbit even against my choice. However, they have a right to smoke just as I have a right to own firearms.

Hey no offense or anything, but I've just been lead along through this converstation is all. I thought I was having a conversation with another semi reasonable, smart person until you just compared super mario 3 to an AK47.

I'll respectufully bow out of this conversation and resume to playing excite bike with my POWER GLOVE (the caps are for duce cause I really LIKE the power glove)

[powerful intelligent]

I don't care how many guns you own. Owning a gun does not make you safe. It does not prevent you from being a victim of violent crime. I can walk around watts and be just as safe as someone sitting in their basement with an arsenal.

[CBGB]

Ongoing list of things i've learned from this thread.

1: Never post your guns online

2: Typing in CAPS gets ANNOYING FAST

3: When it comes to weapons, beliefs cannot be swayed

4: Stunguns suck, as does pepper spray

5: Never show up to The Dueces house unanounced

6: Even if you don't work and never leave the house, you can still afford to spend $50k on guns

7: Paranoia is an expensive misteress

8: Moderation is key.

9: ........

What DID I miss?

[inheritmylife]

I don't care how many guns you own. Owning a gun does not make you safe. It does not prevent you from being a victim of violent crime. I can walk around watts and be just as safe as someone sitting in their basement with an arsenal.

It can sure change the outcome though.

[LionsGate]

What exactly is a healthy obsession?

My wife thinks my bodybuilding is an unhealthy obsession even tho she doesn't know I use aas.....

My friends wife thinks his passion for cars is an unhealthy obsession......

My other friends wife thinks his golfing is an unhealthy obsesion.....

It all comes down to how someones "obsession" effects YOU personally...... if you don't like it..... you call it an unhealthy obsession. Deuce thinks it's perfectly fine..... many of you think it's unhealthy..... whatever...... it's opinion.

Just saying.....
~Haz~

never said collecting guns was unhealthy.

just some examples....

collecting hot wheels, guns, cars, stamps etc... healthy.

boundless porn, womanizing, shopping non stop, binge drinking .. unhealthy.



ur wife really thinks working out is unhealthy?

cars?

golf?

really?

obsessions, hobbies, addictions call them w/e u want. as long as they dont interfere with relationships and work all is well.

once again. never said gun collecting is unhealthy. the paranoia, what if scenarios, shtf, gota carry 4 guns on my person at all times, fear of meltdowns and invasions, man eating dogs etc....IS.

i believe these reasons push a avid collector into nut status.

[oscarjones]

Ongoing list of things i've learned from this thread.

1: Never post your guns online

2: Typing in CAPS gets ANNOYING FAST

3: When it comes to weapons, beliefs cannot be swayed

4: Stunguns suck, as does pepper spray

5: Never show up to The Dueces house unanounced

6: Even if you don't work and never leave the house, you can still afford to spend $50k on guns

7: Paranoia is an expensive misteress

8: Moderation is key.

9: ........ Guns don't kill people, penises kill people.

What DID I miss?

I fixed it...

[LionsGate]

What exactly is a healthy obsession?

My wife thinks my bodybuilding is an unhealthy obsession...

My friends wife thinks his passion for cars is an unhealthy obsession......

My other friends wife thinks his golfing is an unhealthy obsesion.....

~Haz~

they are wives. this is what they do.

[The Deuce]

For the record. I do not sit in my house and dream up SHTF scenario's, i was being a little bit extensive when i said i spend 95% of my time in the house.. yes, i go out. this is why ALL Guns are locked when i leave, NOTE THE PICTURE.. NOTE THE SAFE.

My passion is actually in bodybuilding.Not guns. Gotta leave the house to go to the gym daily.. oddly enough.. for some reason dont know why but when i go to the gym. I carry 1 gun. Must be that OCD kicking in right??

WTF guys seriously.

Yah I don't work. Why don't you search for my thread of why I don't work.. Oh could it be that I was smashed by a Chevy 2500HD by a drunk driver while I was on my GSXR1000 and... OH spent 6-ish months in a coma, then 18-ish months rehabbing from that.. WHAT you think I wouldn't get a HUGE handsome payout from the P.O.S.'s insurance company ?? OBVIOUSLY !!!

So I own guns, My hobby. My "OBSESSION" if you see fit. Guess what like i said in this thread, I am willing to bet EVERY PENNY In my Bank Account that my Investment in Firearms has netted a LARGER return than Anyone else on this board in reference to investments.. I have literally taking 100k and turned it into over a half a million.. OoOoOoO.. who's done THAT in the fcking stock market lately!?!?

I am sick of hearing, Oh he's not stable. He types in CAPS.. he can't be right in the head.. Guess what genius's TO GET A CLASS III Stamp.. you apply through a federal agency, properly named the ATF. They do a background check on you.. EXTENSIVE ONE I MIGHT ADD. Psychiatric everything. Now, If a fvcking FEDERAL AGENCY deemed me legally SANE enough to possess Automatic Weaponry, Explosive devices, Short Barreled Shotguns, Sound Suppressors (aka- The Silencer) and A.O.W.-- Meaning, Any Other Weapon.. I am sure, the few naive people on an internet forum are not as informed of my life as THEY, Meaning the FEDERAL GOVERNING AGENCY on FIREARMS, Are.

Now, to the QUESTION that GUY had to know-- HAVE I BEEN SHOT. Answer, NO. But I have been stabbed.. twice. Doesn't feel nice, as i am sure ANY BULLET.. would NOT feel nice entering a human body.

Back to J-Dogg.. sorry for the Ignorant remark about the Name, I retaliated because you called me an ignorant redneck, and OHHHHH been bashing on me the whole thread. My bad, I shouldn't have done it. I apologize.

Now, On to this again. My choice to own my collection of firearms is exactly that. My Choice. I am sure there are people with FAR EXCEEDING Collections out there than Mine..

LONG GUN COMMENT... No. I do NOT own a Barret 50cal. BUT... haha, I do own a Bushmaster BA50 Carbine, essentially the same gun, just not as LONG.. More of a carryable weapon if you will.. Shorter barrel.. Lighter.. SAME PUNCH Though.. OH and half the price tag of the Barret. Only shot her at the range Twice. She's my Pride and Joy... Her name.. appropriately.. is BERTHA.

I honestly don't care what you guys say about my collection, or what you think of me, this is the internet. It's a Persona I portray.

Once again...

I STARTED THIS THREAD TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS IN WHAT I CONSIDER ONE OF MY JOYS IN LIFE AND THE FEW PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO BASH ME ON IT SURE DO KNOW HOW TO MAKE SOMEONE FEEL LIKE SHIT ABOUT SOMETHING THEY LOVE. THANKS GUYS !!!

Guns, will always Be, Nothing nor No one will ever take them away. They are permanent. They DO NOT Cause crime. People cause Crime. Guns, just have a way of escalating it.

But nobody gives a damn about any other weapon used in a crime-- Lead Pipes, brass knuckles, KNIVES, Broken beer bottles, baseball bats, pool cues.. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE THINGS NAMED HAVE TAKEN NUMBERS AND NUMBERS OF LIVES.. but Oh there is nothing wrong with them.. because they aren't a gun right?? Psssh.

Anything that can be used to take another humans life is considered a weapon. But you aren't going to start banning Baseball bats now are you?? Or God Forbid BEER BOTTLES.. which, let alone being a weapon if broken.. but.. what is IN them that actually causes MORE DEATHS a year than Gun Deaths in FVCKING 10years... Nooooo.. No one ever questions Alcohol.

AND THAT'S LEGAL !!! Just as legal as A GUN. In fact, More legal. You can be Drunk as a skunk. Drive to the store.. go buy another 12 pack.. get back in said vehicle.. drive two blocks and smash into a family Mini-van.. Killing all 7 occupants inside.. But No ALCOHOL Is Great !! That's something that should NEVER be banned.

Did you guys totally skip over the part that I am a competitive shooter and I belong to the IDPA??

Or were you too caught up in the fact I have an armory in my basement.. that is fully secure???

I can promise you right now, that not a single ONE of my guns will end up in the hands of a criminal and be used in a crime that takes another person's life.. and if that does happen.. I'll personally take everyone of my guns that I have and TURN THEM IN TO MY LOCAL POLICE STATION as a Donation. How's that Sound??

Jesus come on guys.. LET IT GO. I am a stable Father of 4. I am married. I have led a troubled life yes. I have been in Death's clutches MORE THAN ONCE. My Sister was Raped and Murder. My other Sister was Stillborn, My wife Miscarried my Son last year. And Now we don't know if we can get pregnant. I am a NORMAL UNITED STATES CITIZEN WHO JUST SO FVCKING HAPPENS who likes to type in CAPS LOCK sometimes, who is an aspiring Bodybuilder, who devotes his time to his family. Who COLLECTS Firearms, and shoots competitively in Comp's just about Every Sunday.

Just as Goddamned normal as the rest of You. I have had my fair share of ups and downs and I have persevered and came out on top.. it just so happens .. I own a lot of fvcking guns.. BIG WHOOP !!!

[CBGB]

Mellow............Mellow............Mellow........ ...Mellow

Shit, calm down! Nice collection you have there, it's just a little worrysome.

[ranging1]

lol guys seriously relax, i cant believe yous are still argueing over the issue of guns

duece has a nice collection of guns, good on him

if yous had read this thread yous see some people are for and against guns, either way the mans just sharing his collection

even though some of yous may think its a little overboard, its a passion

just relax, i think this debate about guns legality is going over board

[lawstudent007]

Ok, back to the more interesting topic about Turtles....Turtles love water.


Oh, by the way, can we switch back to talking about AAA?

[Friend]

[thegodfather]

I've said it once, and I'll say it again too....some times we all have to sacrifice a little, at the cost of few who ruin somthing. It's just how it is.

Do I think no one should be allowed to have a gun? Hell no. But I do think it needs to be more controled.

I don't think any citizen needs assualt rifles, I don't think any citizen needs a safe of hand guns. Want to talk 2nd amendment? I don't care if every single house has a muzzle loader bro, but there is no reason anyone needs to have 5 assult rifles hidden and loaded through out there house.

My whole family hunts, I don't care for it. But they all have a 30/30 or a few rifles in the gun safe. But why does anyone need a basement full of assult weapons?


Same goes with A.S....if you just have enough for personal use it would not be an issue. But start keeping 1,000 vials of test around, and you start to attract attention and put everyone elses freedom (if it were leagal) at risk. I think it should be leagal with a doctor script. But the people who brew it in bath tubs are the people who ruin that. I feel the same about guns.

This is what is known as collectivism. Now, this dives deeply into political ideology, which I'm going to try and avoid because it will be over most members heads simply because they haven't studied various political ideologies in depth. Anyway, collectivist thinking posits that the benefits of the "group" are always more important than individual liberty and autonomy. Communism for instance, adheres strictly to collectivist ideology, evidenced by the name "communism" = community. The benefits to the group are more important than the individual. People are allotted 'rights' and 'property' based on the group as a whole.

Unfortunately J-Dogg, the viewpoint you are espousing is antithetical to the entire ideology that American society was founded on. The spirit of the Constitution is such that the individuals rights are always superior to those of the group. Freedom of speech is not without a price, surely many people are killed because of the radical viewpoints and ideology's of others. Yes, there are certainly people killed each year because of things that some people say publicly. However, the benefits of allowing for free speech (namely a free society that is able to keep the government in check because of a free and uncensored flow of information) far outweigh the disadvantages and price that some must pay because of it. The 4th amendment that precludes people from search&seizure without a warrant, certainly allows A LOT of criminals to get away with crimes, even violent ones. However, the benefits to the individuals living in the United States, far outweighs those incidents where a criminal gets away with a crime because an officer cannot illegally search them.

Our rights come with a price, that is the price of living in a free society. We accept the 40,000 deaths per year due to motor vehicle accidents. We even accept that 22,000 people died in 2007 due to the consumption of alcohol, because those people have the right to put what they want into their bodies, even if it does them harm. It is unfortunate that 30,000 people die per year in the United States due to gun violence, but it is remarkable that 1.5 million people every year are saved by firearms.

In the United States, we value the rights of the individual over those of the group. If we concede that if something is damaging to a group of people, and thus ALL individuals must lose a right, we start a path down a slippery slope with no bottom. There are those who would like to criminalize things such as "denying the holocaust happened," and other such examples of free expression and speech. Additionally let me say, that the idea of owning 1 or 50 of ANYTHING, falls under property rights in the Constitution. There are people who would say, why do you need to own 5 houses? When there are so many homeless people. You mentioned that you are successful. Lets say you make $250,000 a year. Well you are a single guy, why do you need to make so much money? Maybe we should tax your income at 75%, because that's really more than I think you need, because I don't make as much and I want some of your income.

It's not very nice when someone else points that finger at something that is important to you, and advocates taking it away, is it? Firearms are inanimate objects that requires the physical action of a human being. Furthermore, you propose hypothetical situations which, however likely or unlikely to happen, are not reason enough for you to advocate taking away this mans right to own as much property (in whatever form) as he pleases. You probably have a drawer full of knives in your kitchen, you really only need 2 or 3, and some thugs might break in and steal them all and go on a knife throwing rampage. Maybe we should institute laws to regulate and control how many knives each household can have. It's ridiculous right? You should perhaps spend more time studying issues in depth on your own, rather than listening to the media propaganda or relying on your anecdotal experiences from committing crimes as a misguided youth. For every story or statistic you show me of a gun stolen from a house (which is unfortunate), I can show you a story to match it where a woman prevented her brutal rape & murder with a legally owned firearm. Please, do not join the bandwagon that would sentence that woman to death by FORCING her to rely on an ineffective weapon like pepper spray or a tazer.