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11-23-2009, 06:54 AM #201
Bolds.
I dont think your all there mate. Is all that really needed?
When you go one about what I just highlighted, thats the reason people think your not safe to own such a large collection of firearms. Its almost like you want someone to walk through your door so you can use this "collection" as you already have played out in your head whats going to happen.
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11-23-2009, 07:48 AM #202
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11-23-2009, 07:49 AM #203
Something else I forgot:
What is the value of all those "machines".
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11-23-2009, 07:50 AM #204
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11-23-2009, 08:17 AM #205
I was pissed off Swifto.. ever been pissed before and said something you dont really mean?? or go overboard... yah its one of those things...
Where as Yes I would kill anyone coming into my home that meant me or my family harm.. it's not something i "look forward too"... regardless..
you guys know that if this happens and i kill someone in my home the confiscate.. ALL my guns until their investigation is complete right?? To make sure I was well within my rights to kill the Human that broke into my home. AND if it is found thhat I didn't have the right not only would all my guns go BYE BYE !! But I would go BYE BYE for a minimum of 25 to LIFE.. Yah it's a small charge.. goes by the name .. umm what the hell is it.. OH.... MURDER !!!!!! Yah I want to give up my life and rob my kids of their Dad and robbed my wife of her husband.. ALL TO GUN SOMEONE DOWN !! Gimme a break.
Not only that but, Once again, someone please tell me You Know What the IDPA is !!?! And what we do there... WE RUN DANGER SCENARIOS... For JUST IN CASE happenins.. these are scenarios that HAVE happened and we basically run them IN CASE they ever happen "TO US"
here's one...
Just got home from work, You are in the shower. You set your favorite pistol on the stand in Bathroom, under your towel. 3 Hostile Intruders break in with guns drawn looking to rob and kill whatever family is in the house-- they don't expect you to be awake, let alone in the shower.. armed , you must exit shower grab pistol sound of the beep you GO... Double tap first one in the chest, one in the head.. the second one has grabbed your wife/kid (whatever) and is using said person as a human shield-- You must Shot the hostile One SHOT in the head.. 3rd Hostile Two in the head. --Scenario End
That right there.. HAPPENED to someone before, and it's quite an often scenario we run on our training days and JUST used it for the first time at OUR Regional Comp Meet just about a month ago now....
So I am sick and tired of hearing that I am a RED DAWN FREAK.. I am a fvcking competition shooter... and I train myself for such scenario's that might HAPPEN.. not saying Will happen.. sooooooo.... Yah, that's that. Not to mention, the actual IDPA I belong to is run by A PASTOR, and 6 Cops/2 Sheriffs/and 1 State Trooper belong to our lil niche .. Not to mention 5 retired Police Officers... Yah, we are QUITE the Bunch but we all Love the Sport of Shooting.. and NO none of them have a collection as EXTENSIVE as Mine and out of all of them.. Only 1 of them knows the TRUE EXTENT of my Collection.. 1 Retired Cop.. Who also happens to be MY FATHER IN LAW... So I highly doubt he will rob me.. but hey i guess anything is possible.. and in that event.. I am screwed.. He is a 10 times Better shot than I am. Guess I would be the one taking the LONG DIRT NAP if that happened.
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11-23-2009, 08:21 AM #206
ROUGHLY. That is NOT even scratching the surface of my WHOLE collection.. Like the title Says.. it is A PEEK into my Collection... It doesn't include hardly any of My Handguns... and NONE of My Long Rifles... nor Shotguns...
So yes, in the neighborhood of 500k -- Keep in mind SOME are AUTOMATIC, and SOME Also have M203's on them.. (explosive devices)
So yah, .5Mil.. is a rough estimate..
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11-23-2009, 08:31 AM #207
Deuce, you say some very disturbing things for someone who carrys so many guns! its shocking and scary IMHO.
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11-23-2009, 08:51 AM #208
^^^agreed it is one thing to have a gun in case something happens but to have all of these elaborate scenarios planned out is scary.
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11-23-2009, 09:27 AM #209
Question Big Deuce:
do u practice these scenarios?
like do u role play these situations, like run drills at the house with the wife?
serious question brother.
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11-23-2009, 09:34 AM #210
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How the hell do afford all that if you don't have a job?
No offense, Deuce. But I agree with Marcus.
I love guns. I have two handguns, but I never run scenarios in my mind, or talk explicitly about splattering someone's brains. Kinda freaky, bro.
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11-23-2009, 09:50 AM #211
This thread seems to be heading in a downward spiral very fast!!
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11-23-2009, 10:31 AM #212
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11-23-2009, 10:48 AM #213
Noted, but what do I say that is SO disturbing.. did you read my last post in this thread by any choice.. serious question??
I DO NOT HAVE FVCKING ELABORATE SCENARIO'S PLANNED OUT.. RE-READ MY LAST POST.. I am a competitive shooter.. FOR THE IDPA.. as part of this "Gun Club" we practice REAL WORLD SCENARIO'S.. SHIT THAT HAS ALREADY OCCURED.. not dreamed up things.. stuff that has happened.. once maybe twice or 500times !!! Please for the love of God re-read the very last POST I posted...
No, I do not practice scenario's.. what my wife and I do is have a DAMAGE PLAN.. What to do IF and in the event we are confronted with an intruder(s).
I am telling you guys I am not a crazy NUT-JOB
Once again.. SERIOUSLY WTF !!! Do you guys only see what you want to see in my posts.. I do NOT for the LAST FVCKING TIME.. because I am getting quite fvcking sick of this
RUN SCENARIO'S IN MY FVCKING HEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I belong to a Gun Club called the IDPA, we don't just go to the fvcking range and touch off our guns.. we do run scenarios.. shit that has happened.. I OUTLINED ONE SAID SCENARIO in the above post. I seriously do not know where the fvck you people are getting scenario's in my head from, I have said at LEAST 20 Times these scenario's come from the ones we run during our practices and our Competition Meets.
I have only said I will "SPLATTER SOMEONE'S BRAINS" because of 2 reasons.. ONE.. Like I said if you read the whole thing and didn't skim.. I WAS PISSED OFF.. What NO ONE GETS PISSED THE FVCK OFF ANYMORE !?!?!?! I was PISSED.. Kinda like I AM right now and TWO- Basically I don't really care but I am saying.. THREATEN MY LIFE, MY WIFE'S LIFE, OR MY KIDS LIFE and Yes.. I will kill the Perp.. without a moments hesitation.. YOU CAN'T HESITATE in a situation like that... you aim, take a breath and squeeze.
Their Life or Mine.. HMMMMMM which one would YOU choose ?!!?!?!
I AM DONE SAYING IT, I AM NOT SOME FVCKING LOSER HELL BENT ON KILLING EVERYONE, I AM NOT SOMEONE PLANNING FOR AN APOCALYPSE, I AM NOT ONE THAT IS A WHACKO JUST LET OUT OF A PSYCH WARD... I AM NOT RUNNING SCENARIO'S IN MY FVCKING HEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Collect Weaponry... I like it.. It makes me happy.
I shoot guns, Competitively and Just for fun.
I have the means and the way to own such a gun collection and ALL THIS FVCKING THREAD WAS MEANT FOR WAS TO SHARE WITH YOU FVCKING PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT MADE ME HAPPY!!!
Sorry I fvcking made the fvcking mistake.. TRUST ME, I won't do it again. This has been nothing but something that has been stressing me out for days... FVCKING THANKS BROS !!!
For the FVCKING RECORD. I AM NOT A NUT-JOB... If I was anywhere close to one, the ATF would YANK My CLASS III Stamp without a moments hesitation. I am sane individual.
IF YOU GUYS WANT TO COMMENT.. READ EVERYTHING, AND UNDERSTAND IT.. Not just read and acknowledge what you want to.
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11-23-2009, 10:51 AM #214
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11-23-2009, 10:52 AM #215
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11-23-2009, 10:52 AM #216
OK, D7M.. One more time.. I have a lot of money.. this is true. I know there is a lot of information in this thread, and you probably haven't read through everything.. BUT I KNOW YOU KNOW that I suffered a very bad accident at the behest of some drunken asshole while I was SOBER riding my bike and almost died. His insurance company settled with me for a VERY HEALTHY AMOUNT. I am not going to begin to disclose exactly how much nor the details. But lets just say enough money to where I LIVE very very comfotably. DOWNSIDE being I am in PAIN on a daily basis that I must overcome and push to the side .. And to top it off I get a monthly check due to my disability since it technically left me disabled... so yah, I have more than enough money to enjoy spending money frivolously if I want but I DO NOT consider my GUN COLLECTION Frivolous spending.. AS I HAVE SAID 20 times already. IT IS AN INVESTMENT. Just like people take money and invest in the stock market or Bonds or whatever ELSE is out there for people to invest in.
Last edited by The Deuce; 11-23-2009 at 10:55 AM. Reason: FIXED JUST FOR D7M
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11-23-2009, 10:53 AM #217
^^^^^^^^^^^ damned double post trying edit it...
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11-23-2009, 11:13 AM #218
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11-23-2009, 12:00 PM #219Banned
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We all appreciate your sharing of your personal arsenal Deuce.
If you post something so extraordinary, than expect feedback from people and value their opinions... or don't.
I seriously doubt anyone was trying to launch personal attacks against you, as no one really knows you except from what you post. And, from what you post about, they draw conclusions from your character.
Yes, we know you have had a rough life and like to share what makes you happy in hopes that others will appreciate. However, remember this isn't a gun/rifle forum, and regardless of the amount of appeal which may apply to members here at AR, it is an open discussion!
Personally, I understand your need to defend yourself and empathize with your feelings about invasive acts and the U.S. govt., however posting self-pitying and almost aggressive remarks in rebuttal against someone's opinion makes me wonder if you're really that stable!
Take a step back and realize that this is a steroid /AAS forum, and you know what kind of people hang here. I would suggest taking the sob stories to a professional and open your mind to why people are sharing their concern about your exasperated temperament.
Maybe finding other hobbies to replace the time spent on the variety of forums you frequent would be a healthy step in the right direction. It seems to be effecting your life outside of cyberspace. Just some advice. Take it or leave it. TTFN.
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11-23-2009, 12:21 PM #220
You know I Luv Ya bro.. I am just getting so frustrated with this thread.. for what 3 days now I have tried to leave it alone but everytime I go to the Lounge this thread is sitting HIGH A-TOP the List... so of course I am gonna click it and read it..
AND then I do, and it's more Bashing of ME NOT BEING STABLE, Or NOT NEEDING THAT MANY WEAPONS, or This OR I am PREPARING for an eminent attack.. Or hell.. even the CREATING SCENARIO'S IN MY HEAD THING is getting to me.
I am quite a stable individual. I have learned from this. I will keep ALL my Posts of my personal life out of it and discuss ONLY what this Forum is designed for.. AAS use/GH use/Diet Info/Exercise Info plain and simple..
I just wanted to fvcking share.. that's all.. I expected SOME .. dude WTF you need ALL of that for and You definitely are a GUN-NUT bro...
But I didn't expect to be called unstable, or a friggen Paranoid Freak.
I expected a lot of.. WOW BRO That is definitely a KICK ASS Collection !!
Live and Learn I guess.
I acknowledge what you say and it is very well thought out and articulately stated...
Not trying to play off sob stories though bro.
I know what Kind of forum this is.. and if you would browse my posts 90% of them are in the AAS and HGH Forums.. NOT A LOUNGE LIZARD.
I have to spend my days on FORUMS .. it's my JOB.. I am a REP for a VERY REPUTABLE LAB.. Obviously I can not say who.. but MY JOB is on the NET.. Ask a few people around here that KNOW.. Like HAZ.. this isn't an OPEN SOURCE forum I can't exactly state who I work for and what I DO.. but.. I am only stating this because you say I spend too much time in CYBERSPACE.. well I kind of have to. It doesn't effect my personal life. It has NO BEARING on my Hobbies outside of my internet persona. I live quite a healthy life. I spend time with my kids, I go shooting on the weekends..sometimes a few week days. I go to the GYM Daily.. (approx. at least a minimum of 5 days a week.) I spend quality time with my family and EXTRA QUALITY TIME WITH MY WIFE.. so I would like to say I live quite a normal balanced lifestyle. To anyone that doesn't think so well I guess that's your own opinion and you are entitled to it.
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11-23-2009, 12:29 PM #221
Sick cache dude. Here is my, slightly less impressive (LOL) collection...
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11-23-2009, 12:31 PM #222Banned
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11-23-2009, 12:33 PM #223
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11-23-2009, 12:43 PM #224
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11-23-2009, 12:50 PM #225
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11-23-2009, 01:24 PM #226
A comment from across the pond ... Fcukin Yanks and their guns! "Shoot now and ask questions later" attitude.
Who needs enemies when the Yanks are on your side?
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11-23-2009, 01:28 PM #227
it disgusts me how many socialists and collectivists are on this forum....if you don't want to be free and don't think someone has a right to protect their life and the lives of those they love as they see fit.....THEN YOU FORFEIT YOUR OWN.
Socialism and Collectivism are a cancer on this planet....and they will bring about the end soon enough....being ruled by collective stupidity only leads to easier and easier government control of your LIFE....the ONE life you have. I'd shoot you myself if you think that the government knows better for me than i do myself, in a heartbeat
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11-23-2009, 03:16 PM #228
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11-23-2009, 03:46 PM #229
why so many different ar's? with the exception of the ammo being cheap i cant see why anyone without a license to sell would need that. i have an ar, ak, mp5, street sweeper, etc... but only one of each
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11-23-2009, 03:54 PM #230
wow. The one disturbing thing is that this thread has gathered this much attention.
Deuce: Nice collection, thanks for sharing with us.
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11-23-2009, 04:56 PM #231
Why so many?? I have an addiction to them.. basically when it boils down to it.. they aren't all the same caliber, and NONE are the same GUN perse.. yes some fire the standard 5.56.. but I also have 6.8, .450bushmaster, 7.62, .308win... some auto, some not...some colts, some bushmasters, some smith and wesson, some stag, ALL DIFFERENT...
It's a collection brother.. WHEN SOMEONE COLLECTS SOMETHING THEY NEVER REPEAT BUY THE SAME EXACT THING.. Take stamps for example.. if you buy an ABE LINCOLN w/ a hat.. are you going to buy two of the same ONE.. No... you might buy an ABE LINCOLN Memorial one, an ABE LINCOLN Emancipation of Proclamation speech one.. All the same "GENRE" but NONE EXACTLY the same..
See what i am getting at here??
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11-23-2009, 04:58 PM #232Originally Posted by paulzane;495***4
Enjoy your MIDDLE EASTERN World... I'll enjoy MY FREE AMERICA !!
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11-23-2009, 05:09 PM #233
100% Agree brother.. 100% agree...
See what people think and what they know is actually TOTALLY DIFFERENT than reality..
Hahaha MOST people think that a normal US CITIZEN can't own automatic weaponry or explosive devices... They think they are reserved just for LE and MILITARY...
But Guess I corrected those people when I informed them of the CLASS III Stamp.
A lot of people think the government has total control of our lives.. which they don't because IF THEY DID.. A forum.. this forum.. wouldn't exist. WHY because it's about discussion of illegal substances.. and odds are the server for this site is based in the US or someplace where AAS are illegal because if it wasn't it would be an OPEN SOURCE BOARD where we could freely talk about UGL's and have SPONSORS of SOURCES all over the board...
So, that just shows you right there that the government DOESN'T Have total control.. just a LITTLE BIT..
Yes the government is set in place to regulate the things we do but that beautiful Constitution allows us the freedoms in which it grants us.. and that is at least WHY this Board can exist.. THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH !!!
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11-23-2009, 07:12 PM #234
What people here don't understand is that in IDPA shooting it was created to put shooters in a defensive scenario that they need to solve with their shooting. It's not combat shooting but it teaches you to shoot under stress and to solve a problem as quickly and effeciently as possible with your shooting. It's a VERY well respected organization and has a huge following.
I do a similiar type of shooting called USPSA. It is less about defensive shooting and more about freedom of solving a scenario with your shooting. The difference being is that it's less constricting and they don't require the use of cover and tactics etc. It's more of a game per say.
Duece you're not too far from me. I live in New England as well. What level IDPA shooter are you?
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11-23-2009, 08:16 PM #235
Sharpshooter.. hopefully next year I qualify as EXPERT... i've only been involved for ohh like 28 months now.. I progressed pretty fast according to our S.O.'s but.. i feel I could have done a hell of a lot better at my last regional comp. If I had won my division and class I would have immediately been promoted to EXPERT.. but uhhh haha.. that SOOO Wasn't the case at all... I placed 17th overall.. out of 65 shooters... not bad in retrospect.. but pretty goddamned horrible for my standards.. I dropped from the previous.. where I was 9th. AND I thought I had done better.. ehhh.. so is life.. There's always next year!!!
What pistol do you use?? Mods??
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11-23-2009, 08:29 PM #236
Good for you keep at it. The best advice I can give you is to learn to call your shots. It's hands down the most important shooting skill you will ever learn. Also, read Brian Enos book Practical Shooting Beyond Fundamentals. It is hands down the best book you can read. Also, check out all of the Matt Burkett Videos if you haven't. I had him down for a seminar this past summer and it was fantastic. I've been training a buddy that was an IDPA Expert and he just made Master a few months ago. He's a Master in ESP and a B level in USPSA Production. I made master at the end of last year in USPSA open division.
I'm using the Brazos Custom guns as they are the best out there. Otherwise I use a 1911. For IDPA I shoot either a 9mm 1911 or an M&P Pro 9mm. I've only shot IDPA a few times and haven't been ranked. I'm sure I could make master if I put a little bit of time in.
What are you shooting?
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11-24-2009, 04:17 AM #237
That just shows that you are the perfect example of a person who thinks to be free and have his life under control just because you can freely speak about aas in a public forum and hold 5mil war "machines" inside your house.
Open your eyes.
Just by having a simple bank account you are part of a system which controls the media, the health system and the politics; just to name a few.
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11-24-2009, 07:52 AM #238
I know this is gang up on Deuce week, but come on, give it a rest already. if a part of the thinking of any one of us were scrutinized to eveyone on the board, we'd all be considered "extreme" or "obsessive" or "strange". Under a microscope, even the most sane person looks crazy. It's like a catch 22 psych evaluation (i.e. Movie called Changeling w/ Angie Jolie). It's easy to see the spec in the eye of another, and not as eacy to see your own.
On a side note: Thinking of scenarios is NOT crazy, maybe a bit obsessive (which is healthy), but not crazy. Has noone heard of the "How to survive...etc." shows and books? LOL. I'm a young female with non-violent upbringing and not traumatic experieces in my past. Yet, since I was a teenager, I've always thought of "what if" scenario ranging from what I'd do to save myself & loved ones if:
- I accidently drove into a lake
- if an impending car accident were to occur (how I would maneuver my car to avoid it)
- if my car was hijacked and I was put in the trunk (I have certain tools in my trunk)
- If I'm attacked by an alligator (I'm fr FL, lol)
- If I'm attacked by a baby shark (again, I'm fr FL, lol.)
- If a man attackes me in the streets
- If a fire broke out in a bldg I was in
- if a flash flood occurred-what I'd grab first, etc(even own an emergency life raft--Again, FL)
- Is someone with a gun were to come in to the current office or public place I'm in--what's best spot to hide or sneak out of (I always make sure I know a few exits or any place I'm in)
- If my apt bldg were to catch on fire (I even have that portable rope ladder thing)
- If an intruder were to break into my house (I have "weapons" all over just in case I have to run to one of the other rooms).
I just think of the best course of action that would save my life and provide the least harm. You might even call me paranoid , but the fact is that I'm quite normal and there are many people that think the same way I do. We all have different personalities and thought processes, and everyone has their quirks.
Anyhow, all I'm saying is "live and let live. It's easy to point at one person and dissect something that is natuarally "easy to hate".....it's like ganging up on the child molester/killer or Enron execs--Yeah, its's accepted and easy becasue most people think they're bad. So now there's this image of Deuce as a gun fanatic, race war preparer, redneck NRA member that probably doesn't like anything non-white (typical stereotypes). I'm NOT saying that's what he is. These are just common associations/generalizations many people make when they are confronted with what they perceive to be a 'scary' "weapon zealot".....lol.
Relax, have a beer, pump out a load or two*, smoke some grass, chew some tobacco, or shoot up some of that "stuff"...whatever's your poison--just do it and quit being so judgemental (this is an AAS forum)! :
* Those who know me, know I had 2 add that in there
D*mn this is a fvcing long post--see what you guys made me do!
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11-24-2009, 01:21 PM #239
Friday night at DEUCE'S house!!
OH and my gun collection also! Dont be hattin!
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11-24-2009, 01:41 PM #240
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