Guns and Ammo Thread

[Beetlegeuse]

Something modestly worthwhile (for once) fro the NRA:

Gun Rights are Equal Rights

by Nicholas Johnson - Friday, January 22, 2021


The lever-action rifle didn’t just change the West. The 16-shot Henry rifle (shown here), and other modern arms, were also used by newly freed blacks in the late 19th century to defend their freedom.

When looking at the struggle of black people in the United States for their natural rights—those of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness—the right to bear arms, and particularly those arms employing multi-shot technology, has been vital.

Opponents of the AR-15, America’s most-popular rifle, argue that its repeating capability is exceptional and that such a thing was not contemplated by the framers and ratifiers of the constitutional right to arms.

This is false.

Many versions of repeating firearms were available at the time of the framing. But the most-vivid demonstration that the right to arms was embraced with full appreciation for the capabilities of repeating firearms is the transformative post-civil war extension of federal constitutional rights as limitations on states through the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868.

The views of the drafters and advocates of the Fourteenth Amendment are plain. Sen. Jacob Howard of Michigan introduced the proposal by explaining that “the great object” of the amendment is to “restrain the power of the states and compel them in all times to respect these great fundamental guarantees … secured by the first eight amendments of the Constitution; such as the right to keep and bear arms.”

The same congress that advanced the Fourteenth Amendment also abolished southern state militias, demonstrating a vision of the right to arms as an individual right, and not merely some federal protection of state prerogatives.

By 1868, the capabilities of repeating rifles were widely understood.* In 1861, B. Tyler Henry’s 16-shot, lever-action rifle already had powerful advocates in the Union Army. The Secretary of War, Edwin Stanton; Secretary of Navy, Gideon Welles; and President Abraham Lincoln all received gifts of presentation-grade Henry rifles. In May of 1862, the Henry was tested at the Washington Navy Yard, where one 15-shot magazine was fired in 10.8 seconds. A total of 1,040 shots were fired with hits made out to 348 feet on an 18-inch square target. This was done with .44-caliber cartridges firing 216-grain bullets.


Ida B. Wells was a journalist who exposed lynchings in the South in the late 19th century.
She wrote: “A Winchester rifle should have a place of honor in every black home.”

Commentary from the period highlights the acknowledged utility of the lever-action repeater in the context of civil unrest. In July 1862, George Prentice, editor of the Louisville Journal, said, “In these days when rebel outlaws and raids are becoming common in Kentucky. … Certainly the most effective weapon that could be used with the most tremendous results is the one that we have mentioned recently on two or three occasions, the newly invented rifle of Henry.” Prentice ultimately bought several hundred Henry rifles and resold them to loyal Union men.

After the war, the utility of the repeating rifle was abundantly clear to black people who plainly needed more than the parchment barriers of the Fourteenth Amendment to protect them against both private terrorism and the overtly hostile state and local governments.

The Black Codes of this era (local and state laws that aimed to reinstitute slavery in a different form) reflected the age-old wisdom that subjugation requires disarmament. The Freedmen appreciated instinctively that arms were vital to their survival. They defied local and state disarmament efforts and defended their neighbors, friends and selves. We know from newspapers of the day, petitions to Congress, and reporting of Freedman’s Bureau agents that the right to arms was a paramount concern for those newly freed in the territory where they were recently enslaved.


“The great object” of the amendment is to “restrain the power of the states and compel
them in all times to respect these great fundamental guarantees … secured by the first
eight amendments of the Constitution [including] the right to keep and bear arms.”

—Sen. Jacob M. Howard (1805-1871)

By the end of the 19th century, the importance of repeating rifles to black people was so well-established that storied anti-lynching advocate, Ida B. Wells, would declare, “A Winchester rifle should have a place of honor in every black home.”

Wells’ praise of the Winchester was not empty rhetoric, and her perspective was not just historical. She was referencing two recent episodes, one in Jacksonville, Fla., and one in Paducah, Ky., where well-armed black people thwarted lynch mobs.

Wells drew similar lessons from black people using repeating technology in self-defense in Oklahoma. Seven months before she arrived, black men wielding Winchester rifles defied a mob to rescue Edwin McCabe, the black founder of Langston, Okla., who had the grand vision of becoming governor. After mobs in Memphis had lynched her best friend and sacked her newspaper, Wells traveled there in search of a more hospitable environment where she might recommend black people to migrate.

Wells’ exhortation was heeded by countless men and women who faced petty tyranny and mobs during the first century of black citizenship in America. And hers was not an isolated voice. The commitment to armed self-defense and the deployment of multi-shot and multi-projectile firearms was common from the leadership to the grassroots.

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[Beetlegeuse]

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After the 1906 Atlanta race riot, W.E.B. Du Bois described buying a Winchester shotgun “and two dozen rounds of shells filled with buckshot,” as defense against roving mobs. Du Bois’ future compatriot at the National Association of Colored People (NAACP), Walter White, was only a boy at the time of the Atlanta riot, but he vividly recounted crouching with his father in a darkened parlor, clutching a rifle as a mob descended on his Atlanta neighborhood.


Benjamin Tyler Henry developed** the Henry rifle in 1860, a firearm many used for self-defense.

Du Bois and White pulled heavy oars at the burgeoning NAACP. Du Bois was the intellectual force behind the organization’s flagship Crisis magazine. White would lead the NAACP for more than two decades, into the 1950s. So, it is not surprising that the NAACP cut its teeth as an organization defending black people who had used guns to defend themselves against mobs and majoritarian tyranny.

The first major litigation supported by the NAACP was the 1910 self-defense case of Pink Franklin. Franklin’s troubles stemmed from his quest for better wages. He had agreed to work for a planter, but then quit to take a better job. This sort of thing is common practice today and was equally common then, at least for white people. But in 1910, for black sharecroppers like Pink Franklin, the pursuit of better pay was restricted by a special category of agricultural contract governed by the South Carolina Criminal Code. The law was basically a renewed version of the Black Codes that the defeated Confederates attempted to enforce against freedmen immediately after the Civil War. The law said that sharecroppers who broke labor agreements with planters could be fined and jailed. black contract-breakers who could not pay their fines, or their growing fees from incarceration, could then be sold off into the convict labor system, virtually slaves again.

After Franklin left his first boss for better pay at another farm, the jilted employer swore out a warrant for his arrest. One dark morning around 3 a.m., government men descended on Franklin’s shanty. Stories disagree on the details, but, basically, Franklin said he was surprised in the dark by strange men in his bedroom. Franklin said when one of them fired at him, he rolled to the repeating rifle he kept in the corner and came up shooting. A surviving constable, however, claimed that the doors to Franklin’s house and bedroom were ajar; that they entered and were attacked by Franklin. There was agreement on the fact that Franklin shot two constables, one of them fatally.

Pink Franklin was convicted of murder and sentenced to death. The NAACP supported Franklin’s appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court and lobbied the governor to commute his sentence. The advocacy and lobbying continued for nearly a decade, and Franklin was finally released in 1919.


James Meredith (in the white hat) walks along U.S. Highway 51 with a handful of supporters during his march against fear in 1966.

During the civil-rights movement of the 1960s, repeating firearms helped black activists survive. In Carroll County, Miss., activist Leola Blackmon repelled Klansmen who set a cross on fire in her yard. “That night when they set that cross afire at my house … I thought to cut them down, but I didn’t. I just let some bullets through behind them. I had a rifle. It would shoot 16 times. And I just lit out up there and starting shooting.”

One county over from Blackmon, activist Hartman Turnbow staunched a firebomb attack on his home by deploying his 16-shot semi-automatic rifle. The next morning, the license plate of the local sheriff was found in Turnbow’s driveway.

Turnbow also appreciated that the capabilities of his semi-automatic rifle were rivaled, and maybe exceeded, by another common firearm, the shotgun. Turnbow described his calculation this way: “The next year when they shot over here, I had got an automatic shotgun, Remington 12-gauge, and them high-velocity buckshot. So I jumped up and run out and turned it loose.” (In 1997, the U.S. Joint Service Combat Shotgun Report confirmed that, within 40 yards, a shotgun loaded with buckshot can be superior to many repeating rifles, a conclusion that clearly would have been no surprise to Turnbow.)

In Bogalusa, La., in 1965, Robert Hicks, one of the early leaders of the Deacons for Defense, repelled terrorists who attacked his home using a modern copy of the Winchester rifle Wells had extolled nearly a century earlier. In Birmingham, Ala., legendary activist the Rev. Fred Shuttlesworth was protected by armed “Civil Rights Guards” after suffering several violent attacks. Shuttlesworth’s colleague, The Rev. Ed Gardner would later describe how they survived those times with the aid of his “non-violent Winchester.”

When Thurgood Marshall and his young assistant, future federal court judge, Constance Baker Motley, were litigating school desegregation cases for the NAACP, they, too, were guarded by armed men.

Judge Motley described one episode this way: “While in Birmingham … we stayed in Arthur Shores’ spacious new home on the city’s outskirts. This house had been bombed on several occasions, but because we could not stay in a hotel or motel in Birmingham, we had to take up Shores’ offer of his bomb-prone abode. … When Thurgood and I arrived, the garage door was wide open. Inside were six or eight black men with shotguns and machine guns who had been guarding the house since the last bombing. … When we went to court the next day, the driver of our car and one other man in the front passenger seat carried guns in their pockets.”

Daisy Bates, who shepherded the Little Rock Nine through the turmoil of desegregation efforts in Arkansas, wrote about taking her turn in the armed watch of her home, wielding a venerable semi-automatic .45-caliber 1911 pistol. One night she shot multiple rounds to repel a man who had thrown a flaming missile at her home and was about to launch another. He had the good sense to retreat, and Bates survived to carry on the fight.

Throughout the South, the Deacons for Defense and Justice would protect activists in a variety of contexts. In 1966, Martin Luther King, Jr. and others gathered to support a wounded James Meredith and to continue his “Mississippi March Against Fear.” The discussion about whether to use the Deacons as security illuminates the worry within the leadership that legitimate self-defense might spill over into political violence, which the non-violent movement dearly hoped to avoid. As movement leaders gathered in Memphis, a vanload of Deacons pulled up and disarmed. Some of them were carrying semi-automatic M-1 Garand rifles (the WWII infantry rifle that Gen. George Patton called “the greatest battle implement ever devised” and which the United States government has sold to the public for decades through the Civilian Marksmanship Program).


Thurgood Marshall and his assistant, future federal court judge Constance B. Motley,
were often guarded by armed black men.

Representatives of the NAACP and the Urban League thought it was too much of a risk to have the Deacons at the March. King ultimately sided with the leaders of the Congress of Racial Equality and the Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee to welcome the Deacons. Although they would not take a visible role in the march, armed Deacons remained close, surveying the route and guarding campsites. A subsequent interview with Deacon Charles Sims indicates that, in addition to M1 Garands, Deacons also were armed with M1 carbines. Sims said, “I was carrying two snub-nosed .38s … and had three men riding down the highway with semiautomatic carbines with 30 rounds apiece.”

History shows that the struggle of black people for the basic rights of citizenship in the United States presents the right to arms and the deployment of multishot gun technology as a vital resource for political minorities facing majoritarian tyranny. In this case, resistance to tyranny did not mean fighting and winning a war. There were no tea-tax vandals, salty minutemen or pamphleteers urging a breakaway from the mother country. But this fight was against tyranny in its ultimate and most-vicious iteration, against imminent threats to life and limb from forces small and large. This story of resistance is filled with authentic American heroes, using the tools of self-defense wisely incorporated into the framing documents of this country, and with lessons we should never forget.

Source: Gun Rights are Equal Rights

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* Rightful credit for this development should largely be accorded to US Secretary of War Jefferson Davis, who visited the Crimean War in his offical capacity. The Crimean was the first major conflict utilizing a bullet newly invented by Frenchman Claude-Étienne Minié, which allowed a muzzle-loading rifle to be reloaded as quickly as a smooth-bore musket but maintaining the rifle's superior accuracy. Davis was so struck by the Minié rifle's superior battlefield effectiveness that he returned to the US determined that the American army should invest in developing its own rifled-bore arms utilizing the principles of the new bullet, and develop whatever methods it might to further increase the weapon's rate of fire.

** The term "developed" should be used advisedly when referring to the Henry rifle because it was a lightly modified version of the rifle Benjamin Tyler Henry had received the rights to after Horace Smith & Daniel Wesson's first business venture together went bankrupt. The Smith & Wesson rifle, in turn, had been modified from a rifle created from whole cloth by ne'er-do-well inventor Walter Hunt, but only after modifications from Lewis Jennings. So it might as well be called the Hunt-Jennings-Smith&Wesson-Henry rifle. Henry developed his trademark rifle while in the employ of garment magnate Oliver Winchester, who not long after fired Henry for a treacherous attempt to steal his company and took direct control of its operation. Winchester then developed the Hunt rifle still further and sold it as the Winchester model of 1866, which by that time had a pedigree longer than its barrel.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

Ida B. Wells was a journalist who exposed lynchings in the South in the late 19th century.
She wrote: “A Winchester rifle should have a place of honor in every black home.”

If a person is willing to use a lethal weapon (for example a gun) to protect themselves then why should they care whether other people categorise them as 'free' or 'enslaved'.

[Beetlegeuse]

Chairman Xiden's treasury department is putting wheels in motion to de-finance the firearms industry.

Regs Ensuring Fair Banking Access for Gun Industry Iced

A federal banking regulator has now pumped the brakes on a planned rule that would have ended discrimination against firearm-related companies seeking financial services....


Last year the Office of the Comptroller of the Treasury initiated action to prevent banks boycotting the firearms industry. This derails that plan and signals banks that it's okay to screw over gun manufacturers as they see fit.

[Beetlegeuse]

Just an excerpt; follow the hotlink in the headline for the rest. This is so extreme I'd never have believed it stood a chance. Then again, if you'd have asked me two months ago I'd have told you it was impossible to rig a presidential election without consequence....

The text of bill H.R. 127 is up, and boy is it a doozey. It’s the entire package of awfulness the controllers have wanted forever.

So here are some takeaways for this bill, but I’ll link the FPC summary momentarily.

Federal registration of all firearms.

A national gun registry.

Limitations on types of firearms.

Federally mandated insurance, expensive, and managed by the FedGov (some $800 per year).

Psychological evaluations by state-approved psychologists for approval to purchase firearms.

Those evaluations are extended to family members (including former spouses).

Prohibition of person-to-person transfers.

Prohibition of standard capacity magazines....


My state already has laws that make it a crime for any state or municipal actor to provide any assistance whatsoever to any federal agency looking to enforce gun laws that contravene the state constitution. And once a state starts a "blockade" of federal law enforcement, they have effectively dissolved the union and secession is only one easy step away. Several of the demoncrat-run states already are flouting federal law by failing to abide by their own state's constitution regarding the conduct of elections. And they got away with it, so it could be argued (and has been) that their actions already have dissolved the union.

The assholes who are driving this sort of action clearly are delusional if they think the people will stand for it, so it stands to reason that neither do they anticipate the lengths to which the more liberty and Libertarian-minded states will go to preserve man's natural right to self-defense. And defense against tyranny (which this also quite clearly is an act of).

μολὼν λαβέ, motherfuckers!

[Beetlegeuse]

The latest news on what's going on with the persecution of Kyle Rittenhouse (9-minute video).

[Beetlegeuse]

I found this treasure today:



The topic of longevity of a loaded cartridge comes up now and again and this is the starting point for all such discussions. Bullseye powder manufactured in 1899 and stored under carefully controlled conditions shoots virtually as well today as it did more than 120 years ago. Pay particular attention to the remark about "stabilizers for long-term storage were not introduced until about 1910." Which means a substantial improvement in longevity should have taken place well after that particular batch of Bullseye was manufactured.

I love to horde reference material, especially hard to find stuff like this document. If you'd like a copy of this PDF, it's here.

[Honkey_Kong]

I found this treasure today:



The topic of longevity of a loaded cartridge comes up now and again and this is the starting point for all such discussions. Bullseye powder manufactured in 1899 and stored under carefully controlled conditions shoots virtually as well today as it did more than 120 years ago. Pay particular attention to the remark about "stabilizers for long-term storage were not introduced until about 1910." Which means a substantial improvement in longevity should have taken place well after that particular batch of Bullseye was manufactured.

I love to horde reference material, especially hard to find stuff like this document. If you'd like a copy of this PDF, it's here.

I love their power pro varmint and power pistol powders. I wouldn't say either of them are the best, but they're very versatile and give good performance with a wide range of calibers

[almostgone]

Although I generally use IMR for rifle and Vihtavuori for pistols, that's an awesome find. A reproduction poster would make an excellent item for hanging on the wall!

[Honkey_Kong]

Although I generally use IMR for rifle and Vihtavuori for pistols, that's an awesome find. A reproduction poster would make an excellent item for hanging on the wall!

I only use IMR 4350 for my 8mm mauser. Originally I used 4320 and found a sweet spot with 170 grain spitzers. But they discontinued it. So I switched to 4350 and I primarily use 200 grain ones now. It's giving me a pretty stable and accurate grouping so I'm happy with it.

[Beetlegeuse]

I was taught many moons ago by an old Muscogee Creek Indian chief (how could you possibly make that up??!?) that the 'magic' formula for 9mm was 4.2 grains of Bullseye. Works reasonably well with any bullet weight, any brand of casing and any primer.

[almostgone]

I only use IMR 4350 for my 8mm mauser. Originally I used 4320 and found a sweet spot with 170 grain spitzers. But they discontinued it. So I switched to 4350 and I primarily use 200 grain ones now. It's giving me a pretty stable and accurate grouping so I'm happy with it.

My .270 Win and Sierra Game Kings in either 130gr or 150gr seem to love IMR4350.

[almostgone]

I was taught many moons ago by an old Muscogee Creek Indian chief (how could you possibly make that up??!?) that the 'magic' formula for 9mm was 4.2 grains of Bullseye. Works reasonably well with any bullet weight, any brand of casing and any primer.

I was taught by an old brass rat that 5.4gr of W231 was a good load for 200gr SWC and it worked great.

For my Speer Gold Dots and Hornady XTPs in .45ACP and 9mm I tend to defer to the Vihtavuori load data and work up just a smidge. Love Vihtavuori, especially for the .357 S&W mag; the muzzle flash at night is much lower w/ Vihtavuori.

[Honkey_Kong]

My .270 Win and Sierra Game Kings in either 130gr or 150gr seem to love IMR4350.

The only thing I don't like about 4350 (and 4320 for that matter) is that it's powder is not spherical. Sometimes it causes my measure to be a few 10ths of a grain off, so I'm never loading max weight.

[Honkey_Kong]

I was taught many moons ago by an old Muscogee Creek Indian chief (how could you possibly make that up??!?) that the 'magic' formula for 9mm was 4.2 grains of Bullseye. Works reasonably well with any bullet weight, any brand of casing and any primer.

You know Alliant's website doesn't have any 9mm luger data for Bullseye? But yeah that sounds like it'd work with just about any bullet except casts. I don't think it'd even come close to max for most of them.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

UK Customs released my Desert Eagle and I went to collect it this morning. It's pretty fucking sweet. I've three magazines and two lasers (green on top, red on bottom). I'll take pics later.

[JSom]

UK Customs released my Desert Eagle and I went to collect it this morning. It's pretty fucking sweet. I've three magazines and two lasers (green on top, red on bottom). I'll take pics later.

I congratulate you on finding your charm. Weapons are a big weakness for many guys. I am just an amateur, I am not very versed in weapons yet, but I am interested in a detailed study of this issue and, possibly, in acquiring my own "toy". But this question is complex, multi-component, I do not want to make such a decision. I don’t want to waste time on designing something that I don’t need later, it may be disappointing.

[Beetlegeuse]

Never Enough: New Zealand Set for SECOND Gun Confiscation

Monday, February 1, 2021

New Zealand’s beleaguered gun owners are bracing for a second round of gun confiscations following a raft of new gun control measures enacted last summer that are set to take effect on February 1. Kiwi shooters will have until August 1 to turn over their prohibited items or face severe criminal penalties.

On March 21, 2019, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern targeted New Zealand's law-abiding gun owners by unilaterally halting the sale of semi-automatic centerfire firearms that utilize detachable magazines to normal gun owners. The Arms Amendment Act 2019 was passed into law on April 10 and received royal assent the following day. The key provision of the legislation outlawed possession of all semi-automatic centerfire rifles and their magazines. The legislation also prohibited pump-action and semi-automatic shotguns with detachable magazines or a non-detachable magazine capable of accepting more than 5 rounds and any .22 caliber and lower rimfire semi-automatic rifle “that has a magazine, whether or not detachable or otherwise externally fed, that is capable of holding no more than 10 cartridges.”

In order to enforce the ban, the legislation provided for a firearm confiscation scheme. As with Australia's 1996 national firearms "buyback" program, law-abiding New Zealand gun owners were forced to turn their lawfully-acquired property over to the government for a set amount of compensation. The program ran from June 20-December 20, 2019. Compliant gun owners were treated to poor compensation and a breach of their personal data.

At the end of the confiscation program the government had collected roughly 56,000 firearms. A June 2019 report from consulting firm KPMG had estimated that there were as many as 173,000 newly-prohibited firearms in the country. New Zealand gun rights group, the Council of Licensed Firearms Owners estimated that 170,000 prohibited firearms were still in the hands of Kiwis after the confiscation program.

Proving that no gun control measure is ever enough for the anti-gun zealots, Ardern’s Labour government was back at work restricting firearms in June with the Arms Legislation Act 2020.

The New Zealand Police summarized the newly prohibited firearms as follows:

Semi-automatic pistols (semi-automatic firearms less that 762mm in overall length) that are not “small” semi-automatic pistols.

Note: a “small semi-automatic pistol” (excluded) is a semi-automatic pistol that:

has an overall length of 400 millimetres or less, excluding any silencer, pistol carbine conversion kit, or other muzzle-fitting attachment; and

has a barrel length of 101 millimetres or more; and

is capable of firing specified ammunition (ammunition used on pistol shooting ranges approved by the Commissioner) only at a muzzle velocity of 1,600 feet per second or less; and

is suitable for shooting on a certified pistol range.

Centrefire pump-action rifles that are capable of being used with a detachable magazine, or that have a non-detachable magazines (tubular or otherwise) that are capable of holding more than 10 cartridges commensurate with that firearm’s chamber size. ...

This is just an excerpt; follow the hotlink in the headline to read the rest.

[almostgone]

The only thing I don't like about 4350 (and 4320 for that matter) is that it's powder is not spherical. Sometimes it causes my measure to be a few 10ths of a grain off, so I'm never loading max weight.

I don't have an automeasure, just a couple of Lyman 55 measures. I tinkered with my process at first measuring individual charges until I found a pattern that was consistent for me. 3 raps with the knocker every time.

On the other hand, I rarely shoot for max load for the exact reason you posted. I've found that max weight doesn't always equate to better accuracy.

[kelkel]

That's really some big brother, Orwellian crap.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

I congratulate you on finding your charm. Weapons are a big weakness for many guys. I am just an amateur, I am not very versed in weapons yet, but I am interested in a detailed study of this issue and, possibly, in acquiring my own "toy". But this question is complex, multi-component, I do not want to make such a decision. I don’t want to waste time on designing something that I don’t need later, it may be disappointing.

I learned to use nunchucks when I was about 14 or 15......... I'll find a video and post it

[Beetlegeuse]

I split the difference. I got a remote-controlled, battery powered trickler.



Fill the hopper with powder and press the button on the controller. The motor in the base vibrates and the powder granules 'dance' down the tube and fall out in the pan on the scale.

I've never liked hand tricklers in general because holding on to it with one hand and twisting the mechanism with the other and watching the discharge from the trickler to anticipate how much you need to twist all detracts from the task of watching the pointer. And since you've got to press down on the manual trickler to keep it from running away as you're using it, unless your reloading table is bomb-proof, that pressure can disturb the level of your scale.

I built an eye-level shelf at the back of my bench from flimsy 3/16ths-inch wood and set the trickler, scale and "helping hands" magnifying lens on it. And I keep the controller on the bench so my pressing the button has no influence on the scale. Plus the scale is at eye level and the pointer is magnified.



I bought the battery-powered trickler when they first came out (and sold for about half of what they retail for now). After I used it a couple of times I emailed the inventor with an unsolicited review. I liked it in general but thought it could use some further development. He emailed me back and asked me if I'd be willing to be a βeta tester. He said that he reloads with a limited range of powders so he was looking to testers using a more diverse range so he might use their experience to broaden the usability of his product, and I agreed.

So he sent me a free test model. I used it for a while and sent him another review, and asked if he wanted the test model back. He said 'Nope,' so I sold the old one and kept the newer, 'improved' one. I never told him what heeded changing, or how,, I only ever offered my detailed observations. And that went on for about two years.

I really like the one I've got. But if I didn't, I'd only have myself to blame.

My reloading crap is all packed up to move or I'd post a photo of the actual setup.


EDIT:
I should have noted that with practice you can drop single grains of powder with this. So you have no excuse for not hitting your target weight on the money.

I push the hi-speed button until the balance beam comes off the peg. Then I press low speed until it starts getting close to the reference line. Then I tap softly until the pointer is even with the reference line.

At one point he was working on a limit switch this trickler could use with a balance beam scale so you just push the button and it would shut itself off at the correct level but I no longer see it on his website so I guess either he never got the kinks worked out or it just didn't sell.

[rise_against]

I've picked up a few new guns since the start of covid and have been lucky enough to find some ammo. Bought a benelli nova 12ga, browning 7mm rem mag, and a Ruger ar556 MPR.

Haven't been shooting much but got them sighted in at least. Would like to get a 10mm glock as well.

[Beetlegeuse]

demoncrats already tipped their hand that they intended using Obamacare to usurp the Second Amendment by declaring firearm violence to be an excessive burden on the nation's health care system (conveniently overlooking the fact that the wheel "generally" kills more people than guns, and "generally" turns to "always" if you exclude suicides by firearm).

If you control who can get health care, and you can punish those who would opt out of your system, you can regulate people's behavior to whatever extent you choose. It's totalitarian nirvana.

Biden readies showdown on guns

by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist | | February 03, 2021 08:43 AM

In his first two weeks, President Biden hasn’t said much about guns or his goal of banning some, especially the nation’s most popular firearm, the AR-15.

But that’s because he’s leaving it to two key nominees to take the fight to the industry, Attorney general nominee Merrick Garland and surgeon general choice Dr. Vivek Murthy, both gun control advocates.

Gun lobbyists told us that they have been working “overtime” to fight the picks, but it is an uphill battle. A webpage urging members of Gun Owners of America shut down when too many supporters went on it to sign a letter to senators urging defeat of the nominees.

Gun control fans, however, are eager for Murthy, founder of Doctors for America and a former surgeon general, to use his potential platform to call for gun control and push for the creation of a “national bureau” for gun safety that would boost taxes on guns and ammo, push “smart” safety technology, and require regular gun checks and proof of gun safes.

Murthy’s group told us, “Doctors for America congratulates former DFA founder and leader, Dr. Vivek Murthy, on his nomination as surgeon general for a second time. DFA supports the creation of a National Bureau of Firearm Injury Prevention and a national strategy to decrease firearm injuries and death.”

He beat back the gun lobby’s efforts to stop his first time as President Barack Obama’s surgeon general, but the National Rifle Association is planning a bigger offensive. “Our Second Amendment is under attack. There has never been a more important time to fight for our freedoms,” said the group.


Source

[The Deadlifting Dog]

demoncrats

Rather be a demoncrat than a CockGaggingTrumplican.

[Honkey_Kong]

UK Customs released my Desert Eagle and I went to collect it this morning. It's pretty fucking sweet. I've three magazines and two lasers (green on top, red on bottom). I'll take pics later.

Yeah, kids toys are cool too. Since you can't get real guns there, why don't you get a knife/sword collection or a bow and arrow collection?

[Fluidic Kimbo]

Yeah, kids toys are cool too. Since you can't get real guns there, why don't you get a knife/sword collection or a bow and arrow collection?

The black one in my left hand is for if I'm sneaking up on you. Silver one in my right hand green laser bottom and red laser top.

[Cuz]

The black one in my left hand is for if I'm sneaking up on you. Silver one in my right hand green laser bottom and red laser top.

Those look a little big for you bro

[Honkey_Kong]

The black one in my left hand is for if I'm sneaking up on you. Silver one in my right hand green laser bottom and red laser top.

Yeah, they look like they could give a pretty bad welt. I'm sure any burglar will regret the day they try to break in to your house.

[Honkey_Kong]

Those look a little big for you bro

10 years of tren .

[Fluidic Kimbo]

10 years of tren.

On and off

[Beetlegeuse]

Handwaving Freakoutery points out the sheer madness/utter stupidity [pick one] of the demoncrat's new proposal (H.R. 127, alluded to above) for all gun owners to get psych evals.

The proposal (as drafted) would require the BATF to conduct 420 million psych evals. Each evaluation takes 30-90 minutes. For the sake of argument, let's ball-park it at an hour.

There are 106,000 registered psychologists in the US of A, and if every damn one of them did nothing but BATF psych evals for 40 hours a week (@ one eval per hour), based on the federal government's standard 1960-hour work year, it would take roughly two years for each of them to perform their 3,962 delegated assessments. Which represents 214,285 work-years of manpower invested.

Further, as a breed psychologists average making $105,000 a year. So the total cost of this mind-fuck would come to $22.5 billion USD. Which is enough money to build two bases on the moon.

But that's only if the BATF can muster enough efficiency to keep to a regular one-applicant-per-hour schedule (figure the odds!).

And while this is going on there'll be no psychologists available to care for the 45-ish million Americans with mental conditions.

On the up-side, according to the best scientifically-conducted research available, in a country of 330 million people, it potentially could save 1600 people per year. Which brings the cost per life saved to $14 million USD. For the same $14 million they could instead treat 93 cancer patients.

If this is a legitimate effort at improving the safety of the general populace, it's incredibly inept to the point of being vulgar. But we both know that's not what this is about, this is just another attempt to separate American citizens from their right to arm themselves against this very potentiality: government run amuck.

[Beetlegeuse]

The legislature of the state of Wyoming has filed a bill that would invalidate federal laws that infringe on their state-recognized firearm rights. Another state de facto dissolving the union over gun rights.

[Honkey_Kong]

Handwaving Freakoutery points out the sheer madness/utter stupidity [pick one] of the demoncrat's new proposal (H.R. 127, alluded to above) for all gun owners to get psych evals.

The proposal (as drafted) would require the BATF to conduct 420 million psych evals. Each evaluation takes 30-90 minutes. For the sake of argument, let's ball-park it at an hour.

There are 106,000 registered psychologists in the US of A, and if every damn one of them did nothing but BATF psych evals for 40 hours a week (@ one eval per hour), based on the federal government's standard 1960-hour work year, it would take roughly two years for each of them to perform their 3,962 delegated assessments. Which represents 214,285 work-years of manpower invested.

Further, as a breed psychologists average making $105,000 a year. So the total cost of this mind-fuck would come to $22.5 billion USD. Which is enough money to build two bases on the moon.

But that's only if the BATF can muster enough efficiency to keep to a regular one-applicant-per-hour schedule (figure the odds!).

And while this is going on there'll be no psychologists available to care for the 45-ish million Americans with mental conditions.

On the up-side, according to the best scientifically-conducted research available, in a country of 330 million people, it potentially could save 1600 people per year. Which brings the cost per life saved to $14 million USD. For the same $14 million they could instead treat 93 cancer patients.

If this is a legitimate effort at improving the safety of the general populace, it's incredibly inept to the point of being vulgar. But we both know that's not what this is about, this is just another attempt to separate American citizens from their right to arm themselves against this very potentiality: government run amuck.

I'm constitutionally exempt from those evaluations.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Yeah, they look like they could give a pretty bad welt. I'm sure any burglar will regret the day they try to break in to your house.

Single hand straight arm a .50 cal, and then show me the hammer mark on your forehead. Blood trickling between your eyes for sure...

Duel wielding .50’s would be even funnier to watch...

[Honkey_Kong]

Single hand straight arm a .50 cal, and then show me the hammer mark on your forehead. Blood trickling between your eyes for sure...

Duel wielding .50’s would be even funnier to watch...

Dude the first time I tried out that musket I made, I had my face way too close to the barrel to see through the sights. I was figuring it's black powder so it wouldn't kick much. I had to walk around with a big bruise on my cheek for a week. I could only imagine how bad it'd be if he tried to single-arm shoot a .50 cal.

Lucky for him, those are airsofts.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Ouch! I believe it..


I still can’t look at a buddy of know without laughing who ate the Leupold off my 7MM mag one day at the range. Split him wide open, still has a thick ol’ scar on his eyebrow

[Fluidic Kimbo]

One of my Deagles is two-tone, the stock is black and the slide is dark green, and I wanted it all black.

So I started by taking off the outer barrel, and I used a heavy-duty paint thinner on it (this stuff is really gloopy). This paint thinner very nicely took all the paint off and gave it a perfect metallic shine.

But then I used a brush to put on Hammerite paint and here's how it came out:



It looks like it's been coated in liquid latex.

So I've stripped the paint off the barrel all over again, and also off the slide. Now I need to decide what to do next... some people are saying I have to use a degreaser, followed by a primer, and then BBQ spraypaint (i.e. the paint you use for your backgarden barbequeue). I'm told that I need to put the spraypaint on very lightly, and to build it up in layers. Then I think I'm supposed to put it in the oven for a bit. I'm going for a matt black finish like it's just come from the factory.

[Honkey_Kong]

Owwwww just the thought of that makes me cringe a little.

You know as much as we sometimes take them for granted and think of them as toys, they're dangerous weapons that can easily humble us.

[Honkey_Kong]

One of my Deagles is two-tone, the stock is black and the slide is dark green, and I wanted it all black.

So I started by taking off the outer barrel, and I used a heavy-duty paint thinner on it (this stuff is really gloopy). This paint thinner very nicely took all the paint off and gave it a perfect metallic shine.

But then I used a brush to put on Hammerite paint and here's how it came out:



It looks like it's been coated in liquid latex.

So I've stripped the paint off the barrel all over again, and also off the slide. Now I need to decide what to do next... some people are saying I have to use a degreaser, followed by a primer, and then BBQ spraypaint (i.e. the paint you use for your backgarden barbequeue). I'm told that I need to put the spraypaint on very lightly, and to build it up in layers. Then I think I'm supposed to put it in the oven for a bit. I'm going for a matt black finish like it's just come from the factory.

If you want a good finish with that crap. After you spray a very light coat on it. Wait for it to dry and then use a very high grit (like 1500 grit) wet sand paper. Then even out everything (especially the bigger imperfections) then do another layer.

But really, it's going to look like shit with that paint no matter how you apply it. Get some Cerakote and use that instead or completely wire brush the finish on it and use a hot bluing compound (if it's made of steel).

I should add if you use a spray paint of any kind, use an airbrush with a very fine nozzle on it in a sealed off space so that you don't get dust on it. If you use one of those aerosol cans, you're always going to get splatters of paint on it.