The Prime explained before cycling..

**novicenovicen** · 04-26-2006, 11:56 AM

bump

**marcus300** · 05-01-2006, 09:39 AM

^^^^

**FranKieC** · 05-01-2006, 10:51 AM

Nice post Marcus..This is my first time seeing this and GREAT post as usual

**marcus300** · 05-01-2006, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by FranKieC

Nice post Marcus..This is my first time seeing this and GREAT post as usual

Thanks, give it a try next time the results are amazing, 100%

**IBdmfkr** · 05-01-2006, 10:53 AM

I can't wait.

**Mesomorphyl** · 06-07-2006, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

Good one... needs put into the training and diet forums as well.

I said this back in march... needs to be linked into the training and diet forums

**helium3** · 06-10-2006, 06:01 AM

as i responded well early in my test cycle a short one is something im looking for and will be adopting this "priming" technique in my next cycle.great post.

**legend05** · 06-11-2006, 11:42 PM

A new technique but I know it works as I have spoke to many who make massive gains in the first few weeks after doing a show.

My cycling method is normally 6 weeks on followed by 4 weeks off, would you say 4 weeks is enough to prime the body or would i be better taking a bit mroe time off?

Also, after you feel you have "primed" the body do you find its best to hit it hard with a nice heavy fast acting cycle? Prop/Npp/Abombs or something?

**marcus300** · 06-12-2006, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by legend05

A new technique but I know it works as I have spoke to many who make massive gains in the first few weeks after doing a show.

My cycling method is normally 6 weeks on followed by 4 weeks off, would you say 4 weeks is enough to prime the body or would i be better taking a bit mroe time off?

Also, after you feel you have "primed" the body do you find its best to hit it hard with a nice heavy fast acting cycle? Prop/Npp/Abombs or something?

Its not a new technique, many serious bodybuilders have been using this for many years Dorian was a big believer in this priming the body and took advantage of this process, in some years he jumped 30lbs in weight from using this window,

I wouldn't say 4 weeks is enough time to prime the body correctly, personally i would go for around 6-8 weeks, also i wouldn't have 4 weeks off between short cycles, first you shouldn't be priming while in pct also i don't set a number of weeks for me to start another short cycle, i need to know if i have fully recovered and my BW is fine,

What compounds i would use for a short cycle depends on what type of short cycle i will be doing ie heavy/light/medium

**legend05** · 06-12-2006, 04:57 AM

Thanks for the reply, what i meant was it was a new process to me

Certainly something I am going to try, I have just come off a short cycle so I will run pct and then take another 6-8 weeks off to try to prime the body before getting back on, will update as to how i get on

**legend05** · 06-12-2006, 05:17 AM

Another question, could i prime the body whilst on cycle.. say prime whilst using tren /var/proviron and then when i feel it is primed hit it with a prop/npp/oxy cycle?

soz for all questions, just something that really interests me

**marcus300** · 06-12-2006, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by legend05

Another question, could i prime the body whilst on cycle.. say prime whilst using tren /var/proviron and then when i feel it is primed hit it with a prop/npp/oxy cycle?

soz for all questions, just something that really interests me

No the whole idea is to get the body ready for growth by priming it, you need good time off AAS so this process works, priming makes a very anabolic environment for muscle tissue to grow quickly when you start a cycle, so this coupled with AAS + hgh makes it an ideal time to take advantage off,

**legend05** · 06-12-2006, 05:41 AM

ok, thanks again for the reply, Just got to mentally prepare myself for some time off now then

Would it be ok to bridge with slin/gh?

**ODC0717** · 06-13-2006, 09:57 AM

BUMP this, it was on the next page, and we can't be havin' that!

TTT

**theforce3169** · 06-15-2006, 01:59 AM

WOW, someone give me a copy of the AR vet/ newbie Traslation handbook....LOL

**Streaker** · 07-26-2006, 09:59 AM

bump

**Bigmax** · 07-26-2006, 10:12 AM

Marcus ....you now have 3 fans...me!!!!LOL

**marcus300** · 07-26-2006, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Marcus ....you now have 3 fans...me!!!!LOL

3??

**vitor** · 07-26-2006, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

3??

You got 4...

I am making the best gains of my live right now. (With the Prime-followed by the short cycle theory...)

Thanks marcus, you are the man!!

**goose** · 07-26-2006, 02:43 PM

You got 5.......

I will see you Manchester soon....

Marcus is the man.........

**mwolffey** · 07-26-2006, 07:55 PM

good read

**stitch1967** · 07-31-2006, 04:09 PM

Awesome info...I will def try this before my Prop/Var Cycle in a couple months....

Bump this....

**peump** · 08-08-2006, 12:30 PM

good post.

back to the top^^^^^^^^^^^^^

**FranKieC** · 08-09-2006, 01:24 PM

bump

**marcus300** · 08-10-2006, 02:03 AM

bumping my own post how sad but this is a very important part of any type of cycling,

PLEASE READ-

**guest589745** · 08-17-2006, 06:24 PM

Someone was looking for this

**bor** · 08-18-2006, 11:27 AM

great post, i noticed this happening about 2 years ago tweaked it a bit and used it ever since, didn't know it was called priming though

**bor** · 08-18-2006, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

No the whole idea is to get the body ready for growth by priming it, you need good time off AAS so this process works, priming makes a very anabolic environment for muscle tissue to grow quickly when you start a cycle, so this coupled with AAS + hgh makes it an ideal time to take advantage off,

You know whats also good to do, and has a similiar idea behind it?

Doing a cutting cycle like prop only, tons of cardio and low cals, and when you're done you start eating big but clean again and oyu gain new muscle on top off your ripped physique

**marcus300** · 08-18-2006, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by bor

You know whats also good to do, and has a similiar idea behind it?

Doing a cutting cycle like prop only, tons of cardio and low cals, and when you're done you start eating big but clean again and oyu gain new muscle on top off your ripped physique

The whole idea is to have a fresh system and start the short cycle+GH+calories, after you have primed you then hit your system hard with all the muscle building tools you have and huge muscle tissue gains are produced, i wouldnt just use calories to gain mucsle id use the anabolic enviroment you have created plus the short cycle and all the other goodies.

**1buffsob** · 08-25-2006, 09:33 AM

Great read. To the top, yet again.

1buffsob

**poundcake** · 09-10-2006, 10:47 AM

good info

^^^^

**Streaker** · 09-25-2006, 09:28 AM

Bump

**needbigguns** · 10-17-2006, 04:05 PM

what about priming but using clen at small doses for its anti-catabolic effects so that you can guarentee no muscle is lost in the 4 weeks before the cycle... then BOOM !

**doctadank** · 10-17-2006, 11:29 PM

bump^^^^
where can i learn more about priming the body. Are there any webpages out there or does anyone have any links that gives more information on priming.

**needbigguns** · 10-17-2006, 11:50 PM

hmmmm i would like to try and prime my body but im too scared of loosing muscle... it has taken me long enough to get to a size i am happy with just after PCT... but even a few pounds of muscle lighter and il be gutted... hopefully after my next cycle i should have some excess muscle i could afford to loose next time - i like this idea though of priming the body... is there any way i could do it over a 4 week period and use clen due to it being anti-catabolic to conserve muscle mass

**rgbz** · 10-18-2006, 12:09 AM

Nice read and to the dude that asked if he can prime on clen , course.. clen is protein sparing, clen or at least eph would be a must specially if you're near your genetic limit. Priming before massive cycles is common in acting/modelling, mostly with dnp though. Ive seen guys run 2-3g a day alongside growth and igf, just for short periods on/off 4-6weeks max then off then backon..

Guy i work with on our managers advice was told to gain 20lbs for a shoot and sent to a "doc".. ran a 4weeker, wont discuss dosages cause they were scary but he changed daily sizewise and lost bf even on 5000cals daily. Sides were pretty serious though, anger/sweating/red hot 24/7 said he was burnin up constantly hard to sleep

**marcus300** · 10-18-2006, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by rgbz

Nice read and to the dude that asked if he can prime on clen , course.. clen is protein sparing, clen or at least eph would be a must specially if you're near your genetic limit. Priming before massive cycles is common in acting/modelling, mostly with dnp though. Ive seen guys run 2-3g a day alongside growth and igf, just for short periods on/off 4-6weeks max then off then backon..

Guy i work with on our managers advice was told to gain 20lbs for a shoot and sent to a "doc".. ran a 4weeker, wont discuss dosages cause they were scary but he changed daily sizewise and lost bf even on 5000cals daily. Sides were pretty serious though, anger/sweating/red hot 24/7 said he was burnin up constantly hard to sleep

Very true, a good prime followed by a short heavy cycle builds huge amounts of new muscle tissue with low sides, this is why i only do short cycles anymore.

**rgbz** · 10-18-2006, 01:27 AM

^ thats cool bro, do you find on the short cycles you "burn" fat like he did and you feel hot?

**marcus300** · 10-18-2006, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by rgbz

^ thats cool bro, do you find on the short cycles you "burn" fat like he did and you feel hot?

Yes i burn fat but not the hot feeling, i do get a strange sensation in the head when running high dosages but this is common due to the high levels of test,

You can build huge amounts of new muscle tissue with priming and short cycling, you also dont have to be advance to use short cycles, moderate dose short cycles work well also.