--->>405<<--- accountability/progress log

**< <Samson> >** · 10-02-2012, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

this isnt my first go around with it!

Same here. . . It's not very extreme. But, it does give me the sakes from time to time along with a tiny bit of insomnia.

But, nothing like the Phen. That shit I can only do in one week cycles. I guess it's just me or something. . . Since I see fat asses just pop that shit without any problems.

**--->>405<<---** · 10-03-2012, 07:39 AM

well so far so good on the new diet. so far this week ive lifted mon and tues + done cardio twice mon and tues and am fasted cardio this am. man ive been busy and am going to bed at like 20:00 LOL.. still 2 more days of no carbs after today!

will be curious to see bf% and weight this sunday.

**canesfan804** · 10-03-2012, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

think im going to the bod pod today. i gotta know!

Did you ever get to the BodPod?

**--->>405<<---** · 10-03-2012, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by canesfan804

Did you ever get to the BodPod?

i did. 201lbs 13%bf so it appears as i get leaner my wifes caliper ability gets worse LOL. originally when i went to the bod pod it had me at 26% and she had me at 22% (a difference of 4%). this time she had me at 8% and it has me at 13% ( a diff of 5%)

im not quite sure of the correlation with essential fat (which i believe the bod pod measures, and the calipers do not measure).

either way i still have some work to do coming off this mini bulk i was on! id really like to get 8% in the bod pod which would be 3-4% on the caliper measurements. gonna be tuff! hitting the cardio at least every day +3-4days of 2-a-days..

**< <Samson> >** · 10-03-2012, 06:51 PM

I'd be quite happy with 13% Bf. But, I already know how this goes. . . . We want to be bigger and leaner.

I think 10% flat is great, if I ever think competing is the way then it's time to go extreme.

**canesfan804** · 10-03-2012, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

i did. 201lbs 13%bf so it appears as i get leaner my wifes caliper ability gets worse LOL. originally when i went to the bod pod it had me at 26% and she had me at 22% (a difference of 4%). this time she had me at 8% and it has me at 13% ( a diff of 5%)

im not quite sure of the correlation with essential fat (which i believe the bod pod measures, and the calipers do not measure).

either way i still have some work to do coming off this mini bulk i was on! id really like to get 8% in the bod pod which would be 3-4% on the caliper measurements. gonna be tuff! hitting the cardio at least every day +3-4days of 2-a-days..

Good luck with that. Sounds like you have a pretty good system. Do you compete?

**--->>405<<---** · 10-03-2012, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

I'd be quite happy with 13% Bf. But, I already know how this goes. . . . We want to be bigger and leaner.

I think 10% flat is great, if I ever think competing is the way then it's time to go extreme.

im an extremist man. i dont think i will ever be satisfied! maybe a BOD POD 4% at 225lbs then i think id be happy. anything short of that and im gonna keep going!

LOL

Originally Posted by canesfan804

Good luck with that. Sounds like you have a pretty good system. Do you compete?

no. just trying to prove something to myself.

**< <Samson> >** · 10-03-2012, 07:15 PM

Sounds fair, I guess 5-6% Bf @ 225 would be square

Well, maybe 7%

**GirlyGymRat** · 10-03-2012, 08:26 PM

[B]405[/B]
what's happening!!!!

**--->>405<<---** · 10-03-2012, 08:31 PM

Lol!

hey ggr! Not much!

**bikeral** · 10-03-2012, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

i did. 201lbs 13%bf so it appears as i get leaner my wifes caliper ability gets worse LOL. originally when i went to the bod pod it had me at 26% and she had me at 22% (a difference of 4%). this time she had me at 8% and it has me at 13% ( a diff of 5%)

im not quite sure of the correlation with essential fat (which i believe the bod pod measures, and the calipers do not measure).

either way i still have some work to do coming off this mini bulk i was on! id really like to get 8% in the bod pod which would be 3-4% on the caliper measurements. gonna be tuff! hitting the cardio at least every day +3-4days of 2-a-days..

If you are 13% I guess I'm in the high 20's. (Probably I am)

You look good dude.

**--->>405<<---** · 10-04-2012, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by bikeral

If you are 13% I guess I'm in the high 20's. (Probably I am)

You look good dude.

LOL.. doubt it

feel like this 5daylow/2day high diet with 9-10cardio sessions per week is working though. its only day 4. well see sunday. no arguing with the bod pod..

ill prob go back in 4 weeks and see where im at.

**bikeral** · 10-04-2012, 05:08 AM

I've been reading UD 2 last few days. Did you modify it to have more low days?

**--->>405<<---** · 10-04-2012, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by bikeral;6194***

I've been reading UD 2 last few days. Did you modify it to have more low days?

no i dropped it completely. this was my plan. UD2.0 is a great diet that works and im sure ill use it again in the future. but speaking personally i can only get so far with it. i am lean but i want to be ridiculously lean. i think the 1300g carb load is holding me back. i do think itd be a good diet to run for trying to lean bulk and may use it for that down the road as an experiment.

the cut im doing now i was trying a 1-2 punch with UD2 being (1) to get me back to lean and the (2) coming from the 5day low/2day high + 10cardio sessions per week. until this week i really did not do any cardio to speak of.

this new diet i got from a co-worker who is prob about to turn pro BB'er. it is his contest prep model. of course im not on supraphysiologic doses of test, clen , T3, ECA and who knows what else like he is LOL.. time will tell the tale my man!

speaking of which its almost time to do cardio

LOL..

**< <Samson> >** · 10-04-2012, 09:56 AM

Your Avi is still money. Should of bulked from there. . . . . I think my gut still looked better. . . . LMAO

**milky01623** · 10-04-2012, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Your Avi is still money. Should of bulked from there. . . . . I think my gut still looked better. . . . LMAO

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Nope I think you'll find mine is better lol

**--->>405<<---** · 10-04-2012, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Your Avi is still money. Should of bulked from there. . . . . I think my gut still looked better. . . . LMAO

LOL.. yeh bulked from there.. LOL.. i hope i never have to go thru a cut that long (6months) again!

Originally Posted by milky01623

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Nope I think you'll find mine is better lol

why u tryin to steal my glory man?

LOL..

**--->>405<<---** · 10-04-2012, 11:36 AM

day 4 no carbs (except green veg). im settled into it now. chest/back went surprisingly well. also did am fasted cardio 45mins with 10 min HIIT thrown in front. feeln good. lookn forward to saturday! (carbs)

**digsy1983** · 10-04-2012, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

why u tryin to steal my glory man?

LOL..

haha cant beat a belly off comp!! am i too late to join in??lol

interesting news on the bod pod and calipers being out of sync that far, wonder if other people have similar findings. may just be that, as you said, calipers dont take into account essential BF for the most part. did you do a bod pod on your last cut as you got down to low BF% or was it just the 1 at 26%?

**--->>405<<---** · 10-04-2012, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by digsy1983

haha cant beat a belly off comp!! am i too late to join in??lol

interesting news on the bod pod and calipers being out of sync that far, wonder if other people have similar findings. may just be that, as you said, calipers dont take into account essential BF for the most part. did you do a bod pod on your last cut as you got down to low BF% or was it just the 1 at 26%?

ive been twice. once at 26.6% and monday. i plannd on going before but never made it there. ill be going again in 4 weeks. and more frequently from now on.

**digsy1983** · 10-04-2012, 12:14 PM

are you gona try and compare the readings from the calipers along side the bod pod?? may not be as useful with you being low % of BF but be nice to see the differance as you drop down lower. maybe just stop about 4-5% dif.
bit of a kick in the teeth tho, that the calipers are out by that much! that puts me back up to 17ish%. oh well carry on the cut!lol

**--->>405<<---** · 10-05-2012, 06:25 AM

^^ yes i will def be comparing!

well day 5 NO CARBS! uncharted territory. TBH today is not that bad. i could have some carbs but im not dying for them. lookn leaner in the mirror. unfortunately i workd late last nite and only got 4hrs sleep. couple this with 5days of no carbs and it = no am fasted cardio today. i will be doing it at lunch though and prob a 30min session tonite.

i will prob only do abs at the gym today

**austinite** · 10-05-2012, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

^^ yes i will def be comparing!

well day 5 NO CARBS! uncharted territory. TBH today is not that bad. i could have some carbs but im not dying for them. lookn leaner in the mirror. unfortunately i workd late last nite and only got 4hrs sleep. couple this with 5days of no carbs and it = no am fasted cardio today. i will be doing it at lunch though and prob a 30min session tonite.

i will prob only do abs at the gym today

Blasphemy!

**--->>405<<---** · 10-05-2012, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Blasphemy!

LOL.. well i planned on doing shoulders and arms too but 6days per week lifting with only one of those days (day6-legs) having carbs and hitting every body part 2x per week i thought in order to have 2 days off arms and shoulders would be the day. i might do traps. i prob will. they need to grow

they are growing!

also because of my schedule i figd an AB day would be good so i can hit em hard. the rest of the week i do them twice but i dont hit em too hard cuz it drains the rest of my workout and at the end im drained from my workout

**austinite** · 10-05-2012, 07:15 AM

^ i gotchya. Makes sense.

I do abs twice a week, and I do them last. Typically by the time I am hitting the last few reps I start to feel like im going to puke. Never fails.

**krugerr** · 10-05-2012, 10:03 AM

Great new profile picture 405!

I read the first couple of pages, and the last couple.. 77 pages is a little long of a thread to read! Forgive me if I have then missed it, but did you post progress pictures throughout this last year? It would be great to have a montage of progress pictures possible with week numbers on. You've made an outstanding effort, and continue to do so. My hat is off to you for your dedication.

Regards
Krugerr

**< <Samson> >** · 10-05-2012, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

^^ yes i will def be comparing!

well day 5 NO CARBS! uncharted territory. TBH today is not that bad. i could have some carbs but im not dying for them. lookn leaner in the mirror.

Just did my 1st 5 dayer of no or neg carbs. Kinda aight after day 3. . . .

**digsy1983** · 10-05-2012, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

^ i gotchya. Makes sense.

I do abs twice a week, and I do them last. Typically by the time I am hitting the last few reps I start to feel like im going to puke. Never fails.

how ever you do them, youve got fantastic results!! highly impressive!

**--->>405<<---** · 10-06-2012, 06:24 AM

high carb day baby! oh yeh..

**--->>405<<---** · 10-06-2012, 11:54 AM

WELL just finished legs which completes my workout commitment for the week! now i can rest and do nothing for about 40hrs and then it all starts over again!

managed to lift 6x this week and did 8 cardio sessions. all in 6 days.. looking and feeling leaner. looked pretty good in the gym PWO today. took shirt off and rolled up my shorts real high. was pretty happy! the lighting in there is good and i cojuld see some abs coming thru. quads lookd good.

i actually looked pretty muscular from head to toe! im gonna have to get someone to take a pic of me cuz leaning my phone and standing in front of it does not do me justice!

PWO chikn breast with oats with choc/peanut butter protein powder mixed in and a sliced banana was freaking awesome! if yall get a chance i recommend getting some of that protein powder they sell at walmart (choc peanut butter) and mixing 1scoop in with ur oats and a splash of water to moisten and then slice up a banana and throw it in. its GREAT!

**austinite** · 10-06-2012, 11:57 AM

Good work 405! Sometimes walking away from the gym knowing you have a day or 2 off is as satisfying as a weekend off work! Carb it up!

**--->>405<<---** · 10-06-2012, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Good work 405! Sometimes walking away from the gym knowing you have a day or 2 off is as satisfying as a weekend off work! Carb it up!

thx buddy!

(and i am..carbing it up!

)

**mockery** · 10-06-2012, 03:04 PM

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**--->>405<<---** · 10-07-2012, 10:57 AM

well last weeks wife calipers said 7.88%

this week said 8.00%

now ive done 6days cardio and 5 days no carbs and AM leaner. i suppose at this point im wondering if i should even get her to do it any more. i prob will just to keep from hurting her feelings

**--->>405<<---** · 10-08-2012, 05:35 AM

Am fasted cardio done.
Did:
5min warm up
10min HIIT
25min moderate

Also like to note i dropped 1lb from last week.

**bikeral** · 10-08-2012, 07:01 AM

Hitting that AM fasted cardio. Go to it bro. I'm actually getting used to not doing it any more.

**austinite** · 10-08-2012, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

Am fasted cardio done.
Did:
5min warm up
10min HIIT
25min moderate

Also like to note i dropped 1lb from last week.

Awesome! I've been so nervous about my rapid weight gain, I've been doing AM and PM cardio.

**Tx89** · 10-08-2012, 07:18 AM

Keep at it man! :-)
how intense are your cardio sessions when u go for 2x a day and what from what bf% you'd say they are necessary to Progress further? (question aimed at all the 2xday guys)

**--->>405<<---** · 10-08-2012, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Tx89

Keep at it man! :-)
how intense are your cardio sessions when u go for 2x a day and what from what bf% you'd say they are necessary to Progress further? (question aimed at all the 2xday guys)

when i go 2x per day in the am ill do 45mins either all moderate or the above workout i just posted with HIIT at the beginning. my 2nd cardio session is usually 30mins PWO moderate (135-150HR)

this is the first time ive utilized 2x per day cardio but i must say this past week has def been successful as far as losing fat. my body is left with little choice considering im lifting 6 days out of 7 and doing 8-9cardio sessions and not eating any carbs (other than broc and green beans 5 days strait).