Frontloaded Test E/Tbol cycle

[916casanova]

Yeah bro. I broke out pretty bad last time as well. Just got a good ruff scrubber along with a back scrubber and some good soap and let the soap sit for a minute or so before washing it off. Also swimming in pools with chlorine and sun tanning with no lotion clear it up as well.. I didn't have any aggression but I was so damn horny my girl was crawling away from me half the time.. *LOL*

[jc95605]

July 23rd
Workout Day 15
Cycle Day 49
Weight 178.5lbs

Well I was a lil disappointed in my chest workout. Cause i did kinda shitty on my chest i decided to take it out on my arms. Then when i got to Triceps the gym was closing so i had to cut out an excercise. When it rains it pours right. Again the changes will be in red and left-arm only will be in green.

DB flat bench: 65lbsx10, 75lbsx10, 85lbsx6

Pec-Dec Flys (machine): 100lbsx10, 110lbsx10, 120lbsx20

Chest Dips: 10, 10, 10

Hammer Curls: 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10

Alternate Curls: 35lbsx10, 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10

Forearm Curls: 25lbsx15, 25lbsx15, 25lbsx15

Cable Curls: 60lbsx10, 60lbsx10, 60lbsx10

Tricep Pulldown (rope attachment): 70lbsx10, 80lbsx10, 80lbsx10

Tricep Pulldown (triangle attachment): 55lbsx10, 55lbsx10, 55lbsx10

[jc95605]

July 24th
Workout Day 16
Cycle Day 50
Weight 180lbs
Wk 8

I'll talk more about this tomorrow when i have more time. I still wanted to post this now to try and keep the log updated as much as possible. As always the changes are in red.

DB Military Raises: 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10

Front Lateral Raises: 20lbsx10, 20lbsx10, 20lbsx10

Shrugs (Smith Machine): 100lbsx15, 110lbsx15, 120lbsx15

Hip Raises: 25, 25, 25

Combination Crutches: 30lbsx20, 30lbsx20, 30lbsx20

Situps (Ab roller): 5lbsx20, 5lbsx20, 5lbsx20

I do have to say that the DB military and front lateral raises are getting easier. Seems like my shoulders and trap are getting stronger. Thank God! Since they have been my weak point i'm really anxious to get them stronger!

[binder]

I feel my left arm is weaker. Its a lil smaller in size, but not really noticable, except in the gym of course. I asked about this awhile back ago in the log for some suggestions on strengthening that one side. If you have some input I'm all ears. It's mostly noticable on the hammer curls tho.

i see. what are the measurement differences and are you sure that it's with the bicep part of the upper arm and not the tricep? something to think about. My right arm is little smaller (under 1/4" diff) but when i was balancing them out, i just added 1 set at the end of whatever i was working just to the right. I did that on all the arm exercises (bi and tri) and it helped. i didn't do a whole extra workout. Just 3 sets on the left, 4 sets on the right. It'll slowly get balanced.

[jc95605]

I haven't measured them in awhile but i think its probably about 1/4". Like i said its not that much different, just hardly noticable, probably just to me. Maybe i'll just do another set on the weaker side like you did cuz this extra workout adds a lil too much time to be honest.

Also another note is that i offically ran out of Tbol yesterday. I'm going to continue taking the liver protection to try to clean & strengthen my liver as much as possible b4 i take the nolva during pct since i hear its somewhat harsh. Also i'll continue to take the liver protection throughtout pct and probably a few weeks after for the same reasons. I wanna run accutane during or after pct, so again the liver protection is obviously a requirement there too. As always any constructive feedback is appreciated.

[jc95605]

July 27th
Workout Day 17
Cycle Day 53
Weight 177.5lbs

As always the changes are in red, and left-arm only are in green.

BB flat bench: 155lbsx10, 185lbsx10, 205lbsx9, 225lbsx6, 245lbsx4

Pec-Dec flys (machine): 100lbsx10, 110lbsx10, 120lbsx10, 130lbsx8

Chest Dips: 10, 10, 10

Hammer Curls: 40lbsx7, 40lbsx7, 40lbsx7

Alternating Curls: 40lbsx7, 40lbsx7, 40lbsx7

Forearm Curls: 25lbsx15, 25lbsx15, 25lbsx15

Cable Curls: 60lbsx10, 70lbsx7, 70lbsx7

Skull Crushers: 50lbsx10, 50lbsx10, 50lbsx10

Tricep Pulldown (rope attachment): 80lbsx10, 80lbsx10, 80lbsx10

BB chest-So today my goal was to do at least one more rep than last time. Well i got it, finally! So today wasn't a total loss. I actually did 5reps on the superset but i didn't like my form on the last one so i'm not counting it. Next time i do BB bench i again wanna increase by at least 1 rep. That will be my goal, hopefully i won't have a shitty workout like last time so i can accomplish it.

Pec-Dec Flys-The last couple of weeks i kinda felt that i could go a lil more on this but i didn't want to. I wanted to save some energy for the rest of the workout. Well today i just felt like going for it! I dunno why. I added the 4th/superset of 130lbs. Man it was tougher than i thought it would be. I was able to squeeze out 8reps, and I do mean squeeze out. I didn't really like my form on the last 2reps but they weren't too bad so i'll count em. Also after i did this my back started to hurt, which leads me to believe incorrect form. I'm thinking i had incorrect form because maybe the weight was too much. Now i'm pissed that a machine beat me! I'll hold the weight at 130lbs so i can conquer this piece of metal!

Chest Dips-Like I said in another post i've been real happy with the chest dips my chest (especially lower) is becoming better scuplted, which is exactly why i switched to this excercise. However today and last workout it seemed easier. Sounds like i might add a 5 or 10lb disc soon.

Biceps-I'm gonna talk about both excercises at once, cuz its my log, lol. As you can see this time i went up again to 40lbs on everything. I could definatly tell the difference. My biceps felt more worked out, felt like that were actually ripping, felt GREAT! My veins in my biceps were bulging out as i curled on the alternating curls especially. I'm gonna hold the weight here for awhile, i wanna have some fun with this!

Triceps-Well i can't have too much good news. By the time i got to triceps i was already in the gym for 2 damn hrs. I was tired and hungry. And to add to that somebody was on one of my machine and wouldn't get off. He was taking his sweet time. The Skull crushers seems more difficult than usual. Maybe because i already used most of my energy. I did what i could which wasn't bad, but i think if i had more energy i could have pushed harder.

*As always constructive critisim is welcomed.

[james21]

hey bro looking good, like your getting up there! Keep up the updates, but why is it left arm only ???? in green ?

[jc95605]

hey bro looking good, like your getting up there! Keep up the updates, but why is it left arm only ???? in green ?

Just so ppl can tell the difference. I might post pics this thursday or next week.

[jc95605]

July 28th
Workout Day 18
Cycle Day 54
Weight 177.5lbs


As always the changes are in red.

DB Military Raises: 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10

Front Lateral Raises: 25lbsx7, 25lbsx7, 25lbsx7

Shrugs (Smith Machine): 100lbsx15, 110lbsx15, 120lbsx15

Hip Raises: 25, 25, 25

Combination Crutches: 30lbsx25, 30lbsx25, 30lbsx25

Situps (Ab roller): 5lbsx25, 5lbsx25, 5lbsx25

Front Lateral raises-Like i said last week this excercise seemed lighter than normal, so this week i added weight. After i was done my shoulder felt like they were exploding. It was awesome. I'll hold it here for a couple of wks then try and move up again.

Abs-The difference seen here in abs is that i was able to do more reps. I've decided to hold the weight here for the reminder of my cycle. If i'm able i'll only increase in reps and not weight. My goal with my abs is to make them more cut and shredded. Not all out size and strength. This is also partly the reason i'm restarted the clen . I'm going to try and burn the fat on top of them to make them more cut up. Since i changed my diet a couple months ago the clen seems alot more effective this time around. Diet....who knew right! So far my stomach already seems flatter and my abs are already looking more cut and developed. I don't think i've even been on the clen for a full week yet. Also if you have been paying attention you'll noticed my weight starting to fall. Another i hop you notice is the strength staying the same if not going up. Seems like my bf% is going down while increasing strength. Finally!!!

[flacked]

I must say I'm definately a little confused with your strategy here.

You are on test, and you've only worked out 18 times in 54 days? That's only about 2.33 times per week, which is about how often my grandma goes to the gym. I agree that overtraining is an issue, but your cutting yourself way short.

Let me know if I've missed something along the way.

[jc95605]

Ya i used to workout bout 2 or once a week. I moved back over here then i was getting situated, then i kept getting volunteered to do something for somebody, then i started school. Basically there were alot of variables in there. Now when i started the cycle that wasn't the plan. I had it pretty well planned out, but like i was saying shit kept happening to me, preventing me from going to the gym. Now i just say NO and i have more control of whats going on now, therefor i increased when i go. I now go 4x a week.

[jc95605]

July 30th
Workout Day 19
Cycle Day 56
Weight 177lbs


As always the changes are in red and left-arm only are in green.

DB flat bench: 65lbsx10, 75lbsx10, 85lbsx10, 90lbsx6

Pec-Dec Flys (machine): 100lbsx10, 110lbsx10, 120lbsx20, 130lbsx7

Chest Dips: 10, 10, 10

Hammer Curls: 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10

Alternate Curls: 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10

Forearm Curls: 25lbsx15, 25lbsx15, 25lbsx15

Tricep Pulldown (rope attachment): 80lbsx10, 80lbsx10, 80lbsx10

Tricep Pulldown (triangle attachment): 55lbsx10, 55lbsx10, 55lbsx10

Well this workout was alot better than the last chest workout. My strength is back up to where it was! the most notable thing that happened today is that i had to leave out the cable curls. Everytime i was about to go over there 2 ppl got on it. I tried about 3 times then just figured the hell with it.

[jc95605]

I didn't get to do the shoulders/lats/abs workout after the last one. Had a couple of things that came down. It's not everyday you throw your good friend a 26yr birthday party at lunch. (Its complicated), when i do go back to the gym i'm gonna hit these groups pretty hard to make up for the time.

[jc95605]

August 3rd
Workout Day 20
Cycle Day 60
Weight 174.5lbs

As always the changes are in red, and left-arm only are in green.

BB flat bench: 155lbsx10, 185lbsx10, 205lbsx10, 225lbsx6, 245lbsx5

Pec-Dec flys (machine): 100lbsx10, 110lbsx10, 120lbsx10, 130lbsx10

Chest Dips: 10, 10, 10

Hammer Curls: 40lbsx7, 40lbsx7, 40lbsx7

Alternating Curls: 40lbsx7, 40lbsx7, 40lbsx7

Forearm Curls: 30lbsx12, 30lbsx12, 30lbsx12

Cable Curls: 70lbsx7, 70lbsx7, 60lbsx7

Tricep Pulldown (rope attachment): 80lbsx10, 80lbsx10, 80lbsx10

Tricep Pulldown (triangle attachment): 60lbsx10, 60lbsx10, 60lbsx10

BB chest-So today my goal was to do at least one more rep than last time. Well i got it, again! Last entry in the log i said my goal was to do 1 more rep everytime i did the BB bench. So far i've been successful in that goal. I might have be able to do one more but i thought my spotter would have to come in and help me so i wouldn't count that one anyway. Hopefully next time i'll able to do another one.

Forearm Curls-Well as you can see i went up in weight again on this specific excercise. Man my forearm was burning after this. I think going up to this weight was a good idea. My left forearm felt as though it was exploding and it kinda burned. Matter of fact the rest of my left arm felt kinda weak. On the nextr excercise is where it hit me. As you can see on the last set i had to move down in weight. Not happy about that at all, but since i went up in weight on the forearm curls in balanced out, lol.

Weight-As you can see my weight is still going down. A few post ago i said i range from 80-120mcgs ed. Well since then i've been using less. Now my range is from 40-80mcgs and its still coming off. Couldn't be happier about this. Who knew that changing your diet would have such a big effect on this, lol. Also I wanna note that even tho my weight is coming down my strength is still going up. Contray to popular belief it seems as tho clen doesn't hinder strength gains. Now i dunno if this is true or not while not being on cycle but as on its working. Losing bf% while increasing stength, cycle couldn't be going better! Four more wks to go.

*As always constructive critisim is welcomed.

[AcePowerZ]

any new pics?

[jc95605]

any new pics?

No but their coming. I'm thinking maybe this weekend. I'll take some and post them up.

[jc95605]

August 5th
Workout Day 21
Cycle Day 64
Weight 177lbs


DB Military Raises: 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10, 35lbsx10

Front Lateral Raises: 25lbsx7, 25lbsx7, 25lbsx7

Shrugs (Smith Machine): 100lbsx15, 110lbsx15, 120lbsx15

Hip Raises: 25, 25, 25

Combination Crutches: 30lbsx25, 30lbsx25, 30lbsx25

Situps (Ab roller): 5lbsx25, 5lbsx25, 5lbsx25

Weight-So my weight seems to be hovering around 175-177lbs. Thats pretty good with me. I can tell my BF% went down. I'll get it tested again maybe Saturday. I'm happy to report that my weight/BF% is going real well. I've only been using mainly 80mcgs a day too. A few days i would take it up to 120mcgs but only when i felt i need a lil "extra." Next week i'll start on the Diphenhydramine. I've been taking the Diphenhydramine every night becuase i have a sleeping disorder so my receptors have been staying somewhat clean. I can still feel the clen when i take so i'm not gonna do a real long cleanse.

[3dbigrigs]

glad to here about the BF going down. I am interested in the pics as well. if you can take one pumped and one not pumped.

[jc95605]

Sides Update

A couple of week ago i reported that i was breaking out and i was more angrier than normal. Well....I've always had a short fuse so that was expected and since hasn't changed. However the acne seems to be getting better. I haven't taken anything as far as accutane or proactive, nothing on my back. It just got better by itself. My face is slightly worse but thats because of me. I keep feeling my face to see if they've gotten better and in turn made it worse. Point being because of the juice its gotten better. Seems I hit a rough spot but worked thru it. Wk 13 here I come!

[jc95605]

August 9th
Workout Day 22
Cycle Day 68
Weight 176lbs
Wk 10.2


As always the changes are in red and left-arm only are in green.

DB flat bench: 65lbsx10, 75lbsx10, 85lbsx10, 90lbsx4

Pec-Dec Flys (machine): 100lbsx10, 110lbsx10, 120lbsx20, 130lbsx10

Chest Dips: 10, 8, 8

Hammer Curls: 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10

Alternate Curls: 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10

Forearm Curls: 25lbsx15, 25lbsx15, 25lbsx15

Tricep Pulldown (rope attachment): 80lbsx10, 80lbsx10, 80lbsx10

Tricep Pulldown (triangle attachment): 60lbsx10, 60lbsx10, 60lbsx10

Well as of late i've been getting real busy so I had to take longer break in-between workouts. I didn't want to but i had to. Anyway because of that my strength look like it went down slightly in the form of reps. As you can see in the red my reps went down by about 2. I'm contributing this directly to the big gap of time in between workouts. This has happened before unfortunately so i know that the next workout will be alot better.

Sides-Well while I was at the gym i noticed my right nipple was a lil hard and sensitive. Symptoms of gyno? I dunno, it could be something stupid. I'm gonna watch it carefully for another 2 days and decide then. I already have adex here, on hand ready to go if need be.

Pics-Yes do to popular demand i finally took some new pics today. These will show my progress at about Wk 10.2.

As always constructive critisim is welcomed.









Like i said b4 i think my BF% has been going down. It would figure i'd feel all bloated during picture day. Oh well, I decided to go ahead and put them up anyway. Maybe i'll take some more on a "better" day.

[binder]

noticable difference in pictures. You can tell your shoulders are your weakspot but they are finally showing so that's a good thing. You can definately tell you have made changes to your body.

keep up the good work.

[3dbigrigs]

great new avatar pictures. Your pics look really good.

[jc95605]

Thanks i still wanna do a different post but its not a priority by any means. Already looking into my next cycle. Planning and researching, ya know how it goes. Got about another 3wks of this cycle. I like the gains but i have to be honest i'll be glad when its over.

[3dbigrigs]

can you please also post at least arms ( measurements cold flexed ) before and as of now!!

[jc95605]

Ya gimme a few days here while i find the damn tape measure. My arm size before cycle (or beginning can't remember) is in the beginning of the log.

[3dbigrigs]

if you use myotape it is really a great way to take fast easy measurements by yourself.

[jc95605]

What the hell is that? I was just gonna use that flat tape that you use when sewing. Is that what your talking about?

[3dbigrigs]

MYOTAPE

http://www.amazon.com/AccuFitness-MT...8715039&sr=8-1

[jc95605]

Sry i didn't forget about you but i've been so busy with my truck project. Ya i have something like that. The trick is finding it. Hopefully i'll be able to update my cycle tonight. There are a few things i wanna mention.

[Kingdom]

Def sir, spread the workouts 2 muscles max in one day, atleast 5 days rest for each muscle before the next work out. Injecting in the glute is hard, try the shoulder...musch easier. trust me

[3dbigrigs]

looking forward to it for sure. ( measurements that is )

[jc95605]

August 13th
Workout Day 23
Cycle Day 72
Weight 174lbs


As always the changes are in red and left-arm only are in green.

BB flat bench: 5x185, 5x205, 5x245, 12x185, 135xfailure (18)

Pec-Dec Flys (machine): 100lbsx10, 110lbsx10, 120lbsx20, 130lbsx10

Chest Dips: 10, 10, 10

Hammer Curls: 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10

Alternate Curls: 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10, 40lbsx10

Forearm Curls: 25lbsx15, 25lbsx15, 25lbsx15

Tricep Pulldown (rope attachment): 80lbsx10, 80lbsx10, 80lbsx10

Tricep Pulldown (triangle attachment): 55lbsx10, 55lbsx10, 55lbsx10

Ok well first off the big difference was the BB flat bench. I tried a routine suggested by another member. Let me lemme say that when I ask for suggestions and input I actually use them like today.

BB Bench (dropsets)-So After doing these sets i felt nothin....at first. About 5-10mins later my chest felt like it exploded. I think I still need to adjust the weight around but i'm pretty close. I'll continue this workout until the end of the cycle at least. It was suggested that I do it for 6-8 wks. I'm thinking I'll do it for 6 at most. Again we'll see the progress at that point to make an decision.

Chest-Ok I'm thinking its time to change up the chest routine some. I'm thinking of doing different pec-dec excercises. If anybody has any suggestions on a effective excercise, I'm all ears to hear it.

[jc95605]

Again short for time. I'm gonna try and set aside some internet time tonight.

Kingdom-I wanna start injecting into my thigh, but i think I keep hitting something or injecting in the wrong spot. I dunno I'll get a lesson another time. I only have 2 more wks of this cycle; but next one i'll definate want to try something different

3dbig-I looked for the tape measure the other say and couldn't find it. I'm gonna do a full out search tonight so hopefully I'll post those number tonight or tomorrow. I appreciate your patience and thanks for that link!

[jc95605]

So i think i might be getting a lil gyno. In my right nipple it feels like theres something hard forming behind it. It does't itch at all but it is pretty sensitive. Cuz of all this my right pec seems to be a lil swollen, a lil bit. I'm thinking of starting on some adex but i'm not sure if its a lil gyno. What you guys think? Does it sound like gyno?

[3dbigrigs]

So i think i might be getting a lil gyno. In my right nipple it feels like theres something hard forming behind it. It does't itch at all but it is pretty sensitive. Cuz of all this my right pec seems to be a lil swollen, a lil bit. I'm thinking of starting on some adex but i'm not sure if its a lil gyno. What you guys think? Does it sound like gyno?

from what I have read bro, when you feel a lump that is a sign that is could be gyno. but again I am no expert but that is what I have read.

[jc95605]

Well i think it might be so I just took .5mgs of adex and will continue until its gone. My weight might move a couple pounds down because of it. Also 3dbig I measured my arms and their sitting at 15.5." In the beginning of the cycle they were 15.25." However now their alot more firm/hard. Sry I can't describe it better. I think some of the fat that was on my arms is gone now. My strength has obvoiusly gone up, size a lil bigger, but more importantly BF% has gone down. Anyway this i think is because of the clen i've been taking for the past few weeks. There you go 3dbig, hope this is what your looking for.

[3dbigrigs]

hmmm 15.25 to 15.50 and you are 10 weeks into the cycle. I would think that you would have gained a lot more than that or am I the only one. I also think your weight should have increased more, the clen may have hindered gains. I dunno anyone else have any explaination. I am in week 3 and my arms went from my cut at 14.6 to now 15.7" and again I am only in week 3 and have not felt the test yet.

[jc95605]

Ya but you might have water retention. I have little to none. I don't think it hindered gains because my strength went up. It hindered size yes, but this cycle wasn't supposed to be a bulker so i'm kool with that. I just wanted to do a cutter/lean bulk. I am bigger, you can tell by the pics. It obviously muscle and not fat. I'm satisfied with my results.

[jc95605]

August 17th
Workout Day 24
Cycle Day 76
Weight 175lbs


*As always the changes are in red.

BB Military Press: 85lbsx10, 95lbsx10, 115lbsx10

Side Lateral Raise: 15lbsx10, 15lbsx10, 15lbsx10

Smith Machine Shrugs: 100lbsx15, 110lbsx15, 120lbsx15

Hanging Leg Raises: 25, 25, 25

Combinaton situp (machine): 30lbsx25, 30lbsx25, 30lbsx25

Ab machine: 5lbsx25, 5lbsx25, 5lbsx25

As you can see the big difference today was the side lateral raises. Usually I do them to the front but this time i wanted to change it up. I'm gonna do some research on what exactly the muscle is specificly works. Furthermore i think i'm gonna treat the shoulders kind of like the benchpress. What I mean is switching it every other week. For shoulders I'll do front lateral raises one week, then the next week I'll do side lateral raises. Obvioulsy you can see that I'm very weak in this excerise. All the more reason to change it up. What do you guys think?

[jc95605]

Sides Update

Well a couple of days ago I asked if my sympotoms sounds like gyno. I got a couple of reponses saying that it sounded like it. I'm not a 100% positive but this is definately something different. So I decided to get ahead and start my AI. As of yesterday I started adex .5mgs ed. I'll continue to do this until the sides are gone.