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    Pics of me and new cycle help!!

    Whatsup fellas? I know that I am new to the boards as a member but I have been lurking around for about 2 years reading up and researching. I feel as if I am ready to make the leap to my first cycle. My stats are as follows:
    6"4
    295lbs
    bf?
    bench-450
    squat-550
    clean-365

    Dont really know any measurements or anything like that. I just look in the mirror and look to see if I am growing haha. Anyhow I play college football as a DT for a major D-1 school and I am looking for a huge summer cycle going into my senior year. Here is what I have after all my research

    Test Prop-700 mgs/week 1-12
    Primo-500mgs/week 1-12
    winstrol -50 mgs/day 1-7

    Pct is proper and planned out- I have letro, clomid, nolva and all that jazz on hand incase of gyno flair up. I am really looking to gain about 10-15 lbs of solid muscle and add to my speed and strenght. Let me know what you all think and be honest and critical. I am always struggling with image issues but who isnt!

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    welcome to a-r.

    age?

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    It's prob not a good idea to post pics showing your face and talking about juicing if you play D-1 football. U never know, maybe the OL from your arch-rival posts here too.







    Oh, and

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    well i guess u love needles if your doin prop, i think u meant ent or cyp 700mg e/w
    prob remove ur face from those pics too.
    only thing that i can see that is laggin a lil is ya lats. keep up the good work bro, lookin solid for all nat

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    no offense but i have a hard time believing ur natty. especially as a football player. and that cycle u have planned isnt really a beginner cycle neither. but if u are thats great. u look real big. abs could use a lil work. cycle looks good imo, not what i would use a first but it looks good. and welcome to the site

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    Dude, you're still natural and that big? Congrats bro, you are on the right way to become really huge!

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    Thanks for all the responses guys. I agree that the abs could use some work. I have a hard time keeping a low enough bf to make them shine. I am 22 years old by the way. I have not cycled at all yet and the reason I have chosen the chemicals that I have is because after all my research I think those are going to give me the gains that I am looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWOLE NATION View Post
    Thanks for all the responses guys. I agree that the abs could use some work. I have a hard time keeping a low enough bf to make them shine. I am 22 years old by the way. I have not cycled at all yet and the reason I have chosen the chemicals that I have is because after all my research I think those are going to give me the gains that I am looking for.

    ...J/K there is no way for me to know either way but if you are natural you are a FREAK... and thats a good thing!

    take care and make sure you post pics of progress. I think we should nick name you LOU (Ferigno)

    Take care

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyLoneWolf View Post
    ...J/K there is no way for me to know either way but if you are natural you are a FREAK... and thats a good thing!

    take care and make sure you post pics of progress. I think we should nick name you LOU (Ferigno)

    Take care
    haha thanks for the kind words. I understand the need to doubt but I wouldnt come onto these boards looking for a critique without being as honest as possible. Wont do me a bit of good to say I bench 9,000 lbs and all that jazz if I didnt. Thanks for the compliments though

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    soccer- i cant be natty because i am "built"? I have been playing football for about 8 years and lifting the right way for the last 4 and a half. I appreciate the criticism though and I take it as a compliment that you think i have!

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    I am planning on shooting the prop ed but can i get away with primo 3 days a week? say MWF?

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    Looking good a cycle will only make you look better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnT View Post
    Looking good a cycle will only make you look better.
    Thanks man I appreciate that. Do you see any lagging body parts other than my core?

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    Lookign very good bro, keep up the good work and keep the pics coming.

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    damn, your a big sumB!tch, good luck on your cycle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasX View Post
    damn, your a big sumB!tch, good luck on your cycle!
    I appreciate the kind words my man. Hopefully all goes well and I will become a monster haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peducho0113 View Post
    Lookign very good bro, keep up the good work and keep the pics coming.
    thanks man I appreciate that. I will have some new pics here in a few months once I am well off into this grind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWOLE NATION View Post
    thanks man I appreciate that. I will have some new pics here in a few months once I am well off into this grind!
    ya next pics u have to wear the pink xmas hat hanging on the back of the chair!!

    looking like a feckin beast already bro!

    just make sure ya got a good pct sorted and go for it!

    Edit* id personally do the winny weeks 5-12 rather than 1-7.. just to harden up the gains at the end.

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    haha shifty you are one funny dude. I just might do that for you my friend if that chick still lives in that apartment.

    as far as the winny goes I appreciate that advice and I will try it that way instead. that makes more sense anyhow.

    pct is intact now and ready to rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWOLE NATION View Post
    haha shifty you are one funny dude. I just might do that for you my friend if that chick still lives in that apartment.

    as far as the winny goes I appreciate that advice and I will try it that way instead. that makes more sense anyhow.

    pct is intact now and ready to rock
    ha ha - well check out the member 'perfectbeast' on here, he had a great avvy of himself in a xmas hat... (also check out the guys diet advice, he has some threads in the diet section, really is 2nd to none advice)

    i notice in ya 2nd pic ya might be prone to a bit of male pattern baldness...

    look into 'finasteride' if your going to use winny.. as winny being a dht could/will hit ya hairline....
    Last edited by shifty_git; 04-02-2008 at 12:22 PM.

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    Shit, 295lbs you're huge bro. You kinda look pissed off in your first pic lol.

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    would love to see ya diet and workout plan fella..

    your already at a size natty that most guys in here aspire to by using aas.

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    Looking mighty good bro for a natural! Your on your way, good luck!

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    you look awesome man you do a cycle your gonna be even bigger beast

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaSqUaDgE View Post
    you look awesome man you do a cycle your gonna be even bigger beast
    Thanks for all the kind words fellas. I have read a lot about diet and timing of certain foods on here and I wouldnt be near the size I am without it. I will write up my diet soon for you all to critique. Thanks again guys I appreciate all of the feedback

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    Quick question about my cycle. Would I be alright with sticking my primo in the same pin as my prop on MWF instead of taking 2 seperate ones on those 3 days? Thanks in advance

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    Ok fellas here is my diet. Critique away but be nice haha

    Meal 1:
    Eggs 6 Whites 1 Yoke
    3 servings oatmeal
    25g protein from Whey with 2% milk

    Meal 2:
    Brown rice/Bean Combo(50grams Carbs)
    8oz Chicken breast

    Meal3:
    50g Carbs from Yams
    1 can of tuna on whole grain bread

    Meal4:
    50grams Carbs Brown rice/bean combo
    8oz Chicken breast

    PWO:
    1 Banana/Rice Cake
    50g protein from Whey

    Meal 5- 30-45 Minutes after PWO nutrition
    50g Carbs Brown rice/Bean combo
    1 can of tuna on whole grain bread

    Meal 6
    8oz chicken breast
    1 serving of cheese/yogurt
    Bed time snack
    1 serving of Natural peanut butter


    ALSO:
    Unsalted walnuts and almonds snacked on during the day
    Also sometimes a protein bar was snacked on throughout the day
    Also I interchange Rice/Bean combo with yams every other day
    I really do not eat much of any red meat

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    you diff look really good man, and your a monster. Be even better at about 310. Coaches wount know what to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92whitelx View Post
    you diff look really good man, and your a monster. Be even better at about 310. Coaches wount know what to say
    haha thanks man thats what i am going for!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWOLE NATION View Post
    haha thanks man thats what i am going for!
    seriously though fella, i would edit out ya face...

    would hate to see you make it big then some a-hole in the media dig up the pics from this site...

    you have obviously worked ya balls off, make sure ya keep ya self safe.

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    OMG dude you're a freaking monster! I really can't imagine what you'll look like after a cycle. Also you should probably cover that mug up.

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    i could swear i saw that diet before???

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    I dont think you should give two shits about what your abs look like. You should be training to improve your athletic abilities. Body Building and Athletic training are not necessarily the same thing. You want to be a better athlete not a better weight lifter. Plus being on the line I doubt that your coaches will let you eat the way you want for the abs to come through. LOL

    BTW you have an impressive build, good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    I dont think you should give two shits about what your abs look like. You should be training to improve your athletic abilities. Body Building and Athletic training are not necessarily the same thing. You want to be a better athlete not a better weight lifter. Plus being on the line I doubt that your coaches will let you eat the way you want for the abs to come through. LOL

    BTW you have an impressive build, good job.
    AGREED

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    Good size bro.... but in pic number 3 you look like your taking a dump in your pants..LOL

    I had to mention it noone else did...

    Oh and your diet is almost a carbon copy of mine when I'm bulking
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulstealer View Post
    Good size bro.... but in pic number 3 you look like your taking a dump in your pants..LOL

    I had to mention it noone else did...

    Oh and your diet is almost a carbon copy of time when I'm bulking
    yup i remember the bean combo lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    I dont think you should give two shits about what your abs look like. You should be training to improve your athletic abilities. Body Building and Athletic training are not necessarily the same thing. You want to be a better athlete not a better weight lifter. Plus being on the line I doubt that your coaches will let you eat the way you want for the abs to come through. LOL

    BTW you have an impressive build, good job.
    Muscle- Thanks for the compliments but its true I do worry about my abs a bit. I do have them haha somewhere in there but with my lifestyle like you said it is hard to keep them. My coaches and teammates make fun of me all the time because I have a BB build that a lot of my teammates dont even begin to understand. Diet to them is pizza and beer. Dont get me wrong I can be found on the same diet for several weeks at a time haha

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    Oh and one other thing bro... on your cycle I would suggest this especially as a football player..

    Cyp 250mg Twice a week 1-12
    Primo 75mg ED week 1-12
    Nolva 10mg ED week 1-11 20mg week 12-16
    Aromasin 20mg ED Week 12-14

    Forget the winni for your first cycle.... and you might not want to start with prop as it could be very annoying if your react to it harshly

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    i would not be caught dead ****ing with you.....huge!!!! for a football player your perfect

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulstealer View Post
    Oh and one other thing bro... on your cycle I would suggest this especially as a football player..

    Cyp 250mg Twice a week 1-12
    Primo 75mg ED week 1-12
    Nolva 10mg ED week 1-11 20mg week 12-16
    Aromasin 20mg ED Week 12-14

    Forget the winni for your first cycle.... and you might not want to start with prop as it could be very annoying if your react to it harshly
    Soul-it is your diet I took and it is working wonders for me. I tweaked it a little bit to fit my lifestyles but other than that it is your diet. No doubt that the bitch works lol. whats the detection time on cyp? I know prop ED is probably going to blow but hey no pain no gain. All my goods are human grade so hopefully that will cut back on the upcoming pain

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