To all you yong bucks you gotta be a tuff MF'er to get old

[almostgone]

Right on bro...45 yrs young...have a training biz in Northern CA. Train youth athletes roughly ages 8-22. Genetically thick but only 5'9...was really cut about 2 yrs ago. Got my 1st try at test and win and tren..then... treated me well since I was told I only do a maintenance type. Time flies so fast you look you've older and some things aren't as easy to keep with...don't do intense 1-2 hrs lifting anymore...though i used to do 315 for 10 at 43yrs old and about 190lbs...afraid to get gyno as things dwindle need advice on how to maintain and what other options are available...my great experiment I love...but ppl who knew the science walked away...

It's all still pretty much the same whether TRT or cycling. Relevant labwork, a.i. if needed ( mainly for TRT guys), and tamoxifen to block estrogen issues. PCT if cycling; drop back to TRT if you blast and cruise.

Plenty of knowledge and info here to help you. Just post your questions in the relevant areas.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Gyno ain't nuttin . I had both mamory glands removed at age 24 back when excess is best . There are so many other things in life that will stop you in your tracks . I am not expert on advice but even after surgery still got bitch tit pain ! From my experience if you keep the E-2 from 2.6 to 3.2 no pain to me in my pecs . I know there is a new bro science out there that says high E-2 is ok . For me I say low E-2 is good for me and I have been as big as I wanted for my older age at 58 had good size and small waist but only a 4 pac. now sucking wind at 62 . If someone would please give me a link to the phone app I could share a bunch of cool pix .

Oh my new wife is a poster child for anti aging and I would like to share the amazing woman and her killer shoulders , booty , boobs (42 DD ) legs - OMG . Worst part is she is a blonde and very smart but has that cute blonde attitude of being a little dingy . I think it is an act . She is very smart .

01/11/22 and now I am 62 and luving life !

[wango]

Gyno ain't nuttin . I had both mamory glands removed at age 24 back when excess is best . There are so many other things in life that will stop you in your tracks . I am not expert on advice but even after surgery still got bitch tit pain ! From my experience if you keep the E-2 from 2.6 to 3.2 no pain to me in my pecs . I know there is a new bro science out there that says high E-2 is ok . For me I say low E-2 is good for me and I have been as big as I wanted for my older age at 58 had good size and small waist but only a 4 pac. now sucking wind at 62 . If someone would please give me a link to the phone app I could share a bunch of cool pix .

Oh my new wife is a poster child for anti aging and I would like to share the amazing woman and her killer shoulders , booty , boobs (42 DD ) legs - OMG . Worst part is she is a blonde and very smart but has that cute blonde attitude of being a little dingy . I think it is an act . She is very smart .

01/11/22 and now I am 62 and luving life !

I’m like you Buzz, like my E2 lower.

Congrats on the new wife!

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Me 😫













Ok my 60 year old newly wed bride

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Headed to Key West the 1st of Feb.

New BS health issue . Wondered if anyone has 1st hand experience with an ankle fusion . I am headed that direction the Ortho told me the Marines caused my right ankle to deuterate and now that I want to walk and have the wind and energy I can barely put weight on it so I limp awful . I guess this is the next step . Damned if I am not considering getting discouraged . Considering but not convinced yet !

Anyone live between Panama City Beach and Key West then the 19th headed back up the Atlantic coast to ????? Any where we choose .


This is our home 2018 Coachman Leprechaun 319 MB C-Class V-10 Ford E-450


This is my towd vehicle 2000 Honda CR-V 4in lift in the pic and now has 235/75 29in mud tires and 15x8 steel wheels . 31 x10.50 tires on American Racing 15x10 alloys waiting to be installed


In the beginning it was a little Honda - It grew up . The stock wheels are 15x7 and tires 195/75

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Tell me if I am so old that nutrition has
Changed 180* . I am in KY FOR 6 mths and joined ANYTIME Fitness . The young girl giving me my physical assessment . Sad oh it’s ok to eat white potato’s & corn and all the fruit I desire . This is for lifting and loosing weight .

Also said all the protein in an egg was in the yellows and not the whites ? I may just be old school but I think she is one of those certified trainers that are certified DA’s

[SampsonandDelilah]

Tell me if I am so old that nutrition has
Changed 180* . I am in KY FOR 6 mths and joined ANYTIME Fitness . The young girl giving me my physical assessment . Sad oh it’s ok to eat white potato’s & corn and all the fruit I desire . This is for lifting and loosing weight .

Also said all the protein in an egg was in the yellows and not the whites ? I may just be old school but I think she is one of those certified trainers that are certified DA’s

Diets are like fashion, they change every fucking year. What works for some doesn’t work for all. I could never pull off skinny jeans or bell bottoms but there’s some that can. Same with carbohydrates, I can pound potatoes, rice and wheat and my body loves the glucose. Others look at a dinner roll and put on 10#.

These “dietary experts” are just parroting from whatever text book they just finished to get their certifications.

Figure out your caloric requirements…that’s paramount. Divide it into a reasonable about of calories per meal and what you can reasonable accomplish during any given day.

Don’t over complicate it. On exercise days, up your calories. On the sitting on your ass days, lower them. My body responds to a mix of 40/40/20. Protein, carbs, fats. I sure as shit don’t sit and measure it out each day. I try and eat similar things each day for fuel and live a little on the weekends. Most of us are not gracing a stage any time soon.

What I do find important is eating in the morning to jump start your metabolism and finding a way to eat even if I’m not hungry so that I don’t have a blood sugar crash and start murdering every snack in the pantry. Throw some greens in there when you can and avoid sugars and corn syrup at all costs. Soda and juice are not your friend but if you think you’re going to live on chicken breasts, sweet potatoes and broccoli forever you’re in for a rude awakening.

Balance and moderation…stay in tune with your body…the one you’ve been through hell and back with. That’s a much better plan than listening to some millennial at an anytime fitness who is fresh out of the classroom.

Best


(By the way, one egg has roughly 6 grams of protein. a little more than 1/2 in the white and the rest in the yolk. What she probably meant was that most of the nutrients and fats are in the yolk)

[SampsonandDelilah]

Headed to Key West the 1st of Feb.

New BS health issue . Wondered if anyone has 1st hand experience with an ankle fusion . I am headed that direction the Ortho told me the Marines caused my right ankle to deuterate and now that I want to walk and have the wind and energy I can barely put weight on it so I limp awful . I guess this is the next step . Damned if I am not considering getting discouraged . Considering but not convinced yet !

Anyone live between Panama City Beach and Key West then the 19th headed back up the Atlantic coast to ????? Any where we choose .


This is our home 2018 Coachman Leprechaun 319 MB C-Class V-10 Ford E-450


This is my towd vehicle 2000 Honda CR-V 4in lift in the pic and now has 235/75 29in mud tires and 15x8 steel wheels . 31 x10.50 tires on American Racing 15x10 alloys waiting to be installed


In the beginning it was a little Honda - It grew up . The stock wheels are 15x7 and tires 195/75

That’s the sweetest CRV I’ve ever seen and the only one I’ve seen sporting some terra grapplers. Awesome.

Spacer lift or coil over? Looks fucking awesome

[wango]

Tell me if I am so old that nutrition has
Changed 180* . I am in KY FOR 6 mths and joined ANYTIME Fitness . The young girl giving me my physical assessment . Sad oh it’s ok to eat white potato’s & corn and all the fruit I desire . This is for lifting and loosing weight .

Also said all the protein in an egg was in the yellows and not the whites ? I may just be old school but I think she is one of those certified trainers that are certified DA’s

Yes she is a certified DA. Certified Dumb Ass.

The white potatoes fault is it is high on the glycemic index, which means you get a quick/big insulin release. So if your blood sugar levels are high/pre diabetic, they are a no-no. Corn is ok, but there are better vegetables, glycemic index wise. Weight loss wise, lay off of the butter on each and you’re good to go.

Eggs have protein in the whites and yolks, but the yolks have more saturated fat/LDLs.

Glad to see that you still kicking Buzz.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I am very grateful for all you're men's input .

Is it better to start the day with 3 whole eggs - or 8 egg whites and one of them a whole egg ?

Since I am only on lifting EOD now and the "certified trainer" knew this and flat out told me white potatoes are fine to eat eat all you want .This she did not know is I am type II diabetic soooooo they are a no for me but she did not have this info .
Additionally blew my mind when she said that the egg yellow is better for you to eat that the whites ; I was speechless !

A friend of mine owns an anti aging clinic and TRT Specialist and their "diet" to loose is all meats and only water to drink and HUMAPRO protein which is protein absorbed through fat cells as opposed to filtered through the kidneys and no veggies that grow below ground . I have known ppl to do this and fat just falls off of them . I am to old to lie and eat this way . I am on perminiate vacation . Hey part of my adventure is trying new places to eat all over the country .

I am far from competition but do need to cut 30 lbs after 2 years of health issues and most of the fat is belly & back ; fat where they repaired my intestines and put a abdominal pump in my abdomen for 10 out of 14 days . I am 62 so that does make me old school even in my workout . Young guys see me lifting and ask me how long have you been lifting ? They said the sets and reps are new to them ? I am not that old geezer that tries to lift to much weight ; how ever I do limp (lol) I just "Do my workout" . With no one to impress I just finish my lifting and go home . Not there to socialize .

So Living is am RV some think you would gain weight ? But in reality i have lost weight due to being outside most of the time and I only imagine how much fat I would have lost if I could walk . I was loosing weight before I 100% blew my ankle to the point of tears of pain in every step .

I have an excuse and not a reason to not hit the gym daily I cannot walk over 25 yrds without stopping to rest due to the pain . So every other day I strap on my Velcro boot and head to lift in pain and looking goofy . The goofy part does not bother me but the pain is not escapable only my mind controlling the pain .

In KY now . Headed back to GA the 28th and stay about 2 to 3 mths while my ankle recoups after fusion seurgy the 15th of June , but after only a week off plan to be back in the gym . I am on some amazing meds right now and I can do just a little and see a lot of muscle response I think the HGH and the Insulin helps the most . So that is an update . AS far as nutrition for us non competition men . We cannot out run the old formula Calories in need X # of calories burnt to loose fat . The trick is get all the good nutrition in those say 2500 calories a day or me and in those 2500 calories the majority for me is protein then fat the carbs . That is just me . I did how ever try the (Fat) Ketosis diet and to my surprise it works just not healthy in the long run and did I ever get sluggish . So now I eat proper foods and watch the caloric intake and just snack all the time and not M&M's lol !

Peace to all and do please comment

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

That’s the sweetest CRV I’ve ever seen and the only one I’ve seen sporting some terra grapplers. Awesome.

Spacer lift or coil over? Looks fucking awesome

Thanks for the props ! I paid $500.00 for the clean little CR-V and lifted with Spacers/pucks 3in , got 1 more off a set of Detroit Axle Struts and turned the top hats over on the strut . So a little less than 5in additionally a 1.5in sub frame drop rebuilt from the bottom up needed many new parts for the lift anyway . It is a work in progress and have all the bling to add now + a set of 31/10.50 all terrain Cooper tires and 15x10 American Racing Alloys .
1) Got side nerf bars
2) roof faring
3) cargo Rack
4) Jerry cans 2ea in th rear = mover spare tire , move license plate to another location
5) add a ft tow bar mount (Blue OX) $1500.00
6) So many lights ; corner marker , reverse lights 2 different light bars in the front , hood mounted lights and more interior lights. + more
7) underside skip plates
8) spot lights for repairs in the woods - like CV Joints
90 In the pic it has 235/75 on 15x8 steel wheels I have trimmed the fenders and installed fender wells for the tires I Have on it now .

Love to chat about it rop me a line any time for a build list .

Any smuck can go buy a jeep and tow it but I have a CR-V with less than $10K in it , totally rebuilt by me so I know what to repair . I have country boys in 100K Chevys and Fords and Jeeps come up beside me and ask questions and say but it ain't no ford and I say If I put as much money in that Honda as you have in your truck people would say my Honda is cooler than you big ass truck.

[wango]

I am very grateful for all you're men's input .

Is it better to start the day with 3 whole eggs - or 8 egg whites and one of them a whole egg ?

Since I am only on lifting EOD now and the "certified trainer" knew this and flat out told me white potatoes are fine to eat eat all you want .This she did not know is I am type II diabetic soooooo they are a no for me but she did not have this info .
Additionally blew my mind when she said that the egg yellow is better for you to eat that the whites ; I was speechless !

A friend of mine owns an anti aging clinic and TRT Specialist and their "diet" to loose is all meats and only water to drink and HUMAPRO protein which is protein absorbed through fat cells as opposed to filtered through the kidneys and no veggies that grow below ground . I have known ppl to do this and fat just falls off of them . I am to old to lie and eat this way . I am on perminiate vacation . Hey part of my adventure is trying new places to eat all over the country .

I am far from competition but do need to cut 30 lbs after 2 years of health issues and most of the fat is belly & back ; fat where they repaired my intestines and put a abdominal pump in my abdomen for 10 out of 14 days . I am 62 so that does make me old school even in my workout . Young guys see me lifting and ask me how long have you been lifting ? They said the sets and reps are new to them ? I am not that old geezer that tries to lift to much weight ; how ever I do limp (lol) I just "Do my workout" . With no one to impress I just finish my lifting and go home . Not there to socialize .

So Living is am RV some think you would gain weight ? But in reality i have lost weight due to being outside most of the time and I only imagine how much fat I would have lost if I could walk . I was loosing weight before I 100% blew my ankle to the point of tears of pain in every step .

I have an excuse and not a reason to not hit the gym daily I cannot walk over 25 yrds without stopping to rest due to the pain . So every other day I strap on my Velcro boot and head to lift in pain and looking goofy . The goofy part does not bother me but the pain is not escapable only my mind controlling the pain .

In KY now . Headed back to GA the 28th and stay about 2 to 3 mths while my ankle recoups after fusion seurgy the 15th of June , but after only a week off plan to be back in the gym . I am on some amazing meds right now and I can do just a little and see a lot of muscle response I think the HGH and the Insulin helps the most . So that is an update . AS far as nutrition for us non competition men . We cannot out run the old formula Calories in need X # of calories burnt to loose fat . The trick is get all the good nutrition in those say 2500 calories a day or me and in those 2500 calories the majority for me is protein then fat the carbs . That is just me . I did how ever try the (Fat) Ketosis diet and to my surprise it works just not healthy in the long run and did I ever get sluggish . So now I eat proper foods and watch the caloric intake and just snack all the time and not M&M's lol !

Peace to all and do please comment

At this stage Buzz, I’m thinking the egg thing ain’t an issue unless your LDLS are out of hand and you have blockages all over your heart.

Damn sorry about the ankle.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

At this stage Buzz, I’m thinking the egg thing ain’t an issue unless your LDLS are out of hand and you have blockages all over your heart.

Damn sorry about the ankle.

Thanks a lot 6 weeks in a cast and 6 weeks in a boot . But back in the gym with only 5 days off

Damn Fucking US Marine Corps use'em and toss'um

[lovbyts]

The whole egg whites vs egg yokes reminds me of the whole Covid and other things where they tell you to believe in the science. lol
If you are under 30 it may make some sense but once you reach 40+ and you have been paying any attention in life you see the science seems to change with the breeze. Baby formula comes to mind also. lol

Nothing wrong with enjoying food, especially if you are not training hard or trying to compete as long as you find a good balance between enjoyment and nutrition IMO.

I have not been able to train for a few years now due to multiple surgeries on both of my shoulders and finally full shoulder replacement. Somehow I have managed to not get Fat. That doesn't mean I couldn't stand to loose 5-10 lbs but not more, I dont want to be skinny either.

Im like you, when Im not working and on vacation I loose weight. I was on one of my longest vacations recently almost 2 months. It was really medical leave/vacation and lost almost 20 lbs. Not from lack of eating but from eating better and being more active.

Im also right there with you and turn 60 this year. Its not getting any easier to get back into the gym and get things started again. I keep thinking Im almost there but my shoulders (mostly the right, most recent surgery) tells me otherwise a few times a day.

Best of luck with the ankle and hopefully you wont loose much movement. My back doctor thought I would need my lower back fused eventually after 2 back surgeries but it pretty much self fused. My neck did the same thing a few years ago after getting injured and I didnt even realize it until something happened and it broke loose and now has been a rather big annoyance or pain in the neck for the last year. Its SLOWLY getting better because it feels like its self fusing again. Im loosing a little side to side movement but Ill take that over the constant pain that comes with full range.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

This was meant for WANGO

Thanks for all your input . I will do my best to share my journey and hope to close the book on this chapter of my life . I figured I would share because I can atlest tell you the truth and the real way it feels like .

Right now about all I can do is stay positive and hope for the best .

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Is Micronized DHEA been made illegal ?

[wango]

This was meant for WANGO

Thanks for all your input . I will do my best to share my journey and hope to close the book on this chapter of my life . I figured I would share because I can atlest tell you the truth and the real way it feels like .

Right now about all I can do is stay positive and hope for the best .

There he is!!!!

All we can do is stay positive & hope for the best, particularly as these years keep coming & going at at a faster pace.

I thank God multiple times per the day for the simplest of gifts; being alive as one of them.

Where are you now with your journey Buzz?

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

There he is!!!!

All we can do is stay positive & hope for the best, particularly as these years keep coming & going at at a faster pace.

I thank God multiple times per the day for the simplest of gifts; being alive as one of them.

Where are you now with your journey Buzz?

I had my ankle fused the 15th of June I am in the recovery stages and I have no regrets of this surgery . I was to the point of being in to much pain to even walk now it hurts but there is light at the end of that tunnel .

As far as the ole prostrate goes I got a baseline pathology back in 2017 and Gleason score of 2 and 1.2 mortality rate . I just decided to watch and wait and the urologist agreed VA Dr. to remain on TRT . I added HCG and HGH to help with recovery of knee , coma , corvid , 3mt back injections (Cured by a memory foam mattress) normal rotator cuff pain , Ankle is on the mend .

When I went back to Urologist about 2 mths ago for MRI and Biopsy Gleason score of 7 and prostrate doubled in size from 32cm ro 65cm and he asked me if I felt pain when peeing ? No but if I had to pee it felt like I had to poop also . That feeling has subsided . Right now as woody as my wife can handle . I have been told so far that I will come home with a catheter and only be in diaper a couple of mths . I am really thinking on this hard . seems so barbaric

At this point I am numb and just do it and see how much damage they do or do not do . My next visit is pre op the 28th of Oct. (I hope tele
health) I am 8 hrs from his office in Ashland KY . If for BW and Urine I will have to drive down for appointment and sleep one nigh and drive back. I hope I can go to Quest up here and get it done .

Oh the biopsy sucks - blood in you seamen for they say a couple of weeks and I calculate from experience 7 Ejaculation in 4 days and I was pumping cream again but for 2 days had blodd coming from both ends .

Most of you young men should read this and see what a tuff MF'er you have to be to grow old

63 YEARS OLD FOR NOW

10/14/22

[wango]

I had my ankle fused the 15th of June I am in the recovery stages and I have no regrets of this surgery . I was to the point of being in to much pain to even walk now it hurts but there is light at the end of that tunnel .

As far as the ole prostrate goes I got a baseline pathology back in 2017 and Gleason score of 2 and 1.2 mortality rate . I just decided to watch and wait and the urologist agreed VA Dr. to remain on TRT . I added HCG and HGH to help with recovery of knee , coma , corvid , 3mt back injections (Cured by a memory foam mattress) normal rotator cuff pain , Ankle is on the mend .

When I went back to Urologist about 2 mths ago for MRI and Biopsy Gleason score of 7 and prostrate doubled in size from 32cm ro 65cm and he asked me if I felt pain when peeing ? No but if I had to pee it felt like I had to poop also . That feeling has subsided . Right now as woody as my wife can handle . I have been told so far that I will come home with a catheter and only be in diaper a couple of mths . I am really thinking on this hard . seems so barbaric

At this point I am numb and just do it and see how much damage they do or do not do . My next visit is pre op the 28th of Oct. (I hope tele
health) I am 8 hrs from his office in Ashland KY . If for BW and Urine I will have to drive down for appointment and sleep one nigh and drive back. I hope I can go to Quest up here and get it done .

Oh the biopsy sucks - blood in you seamen for they say a couple of weeks and I calculate from experience 7 Ejaculation in 4 days and I was pumping cream again but for 2 days had blodd coming from both ends .

Most of you young men should read this and see what a tuff MF'er you have to be to grow old

63 YEARS OLD FOR NOW

10/14/22

I’d hit like as a courtesy, but . . .

F’n prostate crap, cumming blood! But on a positive side if you’re getting satisfactory wood? Hey, I’m trying hard to find a silver lining here.

Damn Buzz, I’m thinking you’re due for a break health wise. I’ve got my list of issues, but I sense that I’m getting off easy presently.

You’re damn right, if you’re going to get old, you damn well better be tough.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I’d hit like as a courtesy, but . . .

F’n prostate crap, cumming blood! But on a positive side if you’re getting satisfactory wood? Hey, I’m trying hard to find a silver lining here.

Damn Buzz, I’m thinking you’re due for a break health wise. I’ve got my list of issues, but I sense that I’m getting off easy presently.

You’re damn right, if you’re going to get old, you damn well better be tough.

Thanks man I am a little short on words right now - Prayers - positive thoughts - a way to coop - I would be grateful for anything good out of this small bump in the road .

I will keep posted all the side effects and the positive at the end of this ordeal .

You gotta be a tuff MF'er to grow old

63 and still fighting the good fight ! To old to live and to young to die that is why I fight ! OOOH RAAA Adapt and overcome , Never give up quitting is not an option . Marines never stop fight until we breath our last breath . Semper FI

My preference would be to have all the cancer removed and control of my facalities and wood work is addition to being able to control my poop and pee

[wango]

You’re one tuff mf’r, prayers to you Buzz!

[lovbyts]

I'm not far behind you.
I turn 60 Tomorrow. 10/26/22.
20 Surgeries and counting. Taking a licking but still Ticking.
I say counting because I'm going to see the doctor on the 31st for my neck that C5 or C6 has been pinched and painful for over 1 yr now.

Hearing stories like yours makes me not want to get a colonoscopy and I'm due. I has my 1st catheter experience and peeing blood when I was 6. I had bladder surgery. That wasn't fun.

Best of luck Buzz and hopefully things will w
ork out. I have a co worker who had like 2ft of his colon removed and said it wasn't nearly as bad as it sounds. I really don't want to ever find out.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I'm not far behind you.
I turn 60 Tomorrow. 10/26/22.
20 Surgeries and counting. Taking a licking but still Ticking.
I say counting because I'm going to see the doctor on the 31st for my neck that C5 or C6 has been pinched and painful for over 1 yr now.

Hearing stories like yours makes me not want to get a colonoscopy and I'm due. I has my 1st catheter experience and peeing blood when I was 6. I had bladder surgery. That wasn't fun.

Best of luck Buzz and hopefully things will w
ork out. I have a co worker who had like 2ft of his colon removed and said it wasn't nearly as bad as it sounds. I really don't want to ever find out.

Belated Happy B-Day old man , lol , 60 is old lol

I have to say a colonoscopy is not bad at all ! I dreaded it . Nothing like you have imagined . Just go and they wheel you in the patient operating room ; they give you some Michael Jackson milk and you wake up and pain free and no after effects except gas . Saved my life back earlier when I was having low BP and NO energy . I was bleeding internally from a palop on the very end of my colon . They removed it and stitched me up and again as I shared - pain free . Get it done .

Nothing compared to a prostate biopsy . What I had blood in my urine for about 3 weeks and blood that was nasty looking in my seaman . No pain , just discomfort . But really get the o-scope and colonoscopy . Pain free and if that PSA gets high get a biopsy ASAP . just because you have high PSA does not me you have prostate cancer but if PSA is high possible enlarged prostate . in 2017 they did a biopsy on me and I had a gleason score of 2 and the Dr and I decided to watch and wait so 5 years later I have another biopsy and I was a Gleason score of 7 and my prostate had doubled in size from 33 cm to 69 cm so we agreed to pull the trigger and hopefully be able to remove it .

Due to back in 2020 my body went septic and they attached an abdominal pump , to pump plosion out of my belly and there may be too much scar tissue to remove the prostate . If they cannot remove it then they will radiate and I do not want a rotting organ in my body . So we shall see .

[wango]

Belated Happy B-Day old man , lol , 60 is old lol

I have to say a colonoscopy is not bad at all ! I dreaded it . Nothing like you have imagined . Just go and they wheel you in the patient operating room ; they give you some Michael Jackson milk and you wake up and pain free and no after effects except gas . Saved my life back earlier when I was having low BP and NO energy . I was bleeding internally from a palop on the very end of my colon . They removed it and stitched me up and again as I shared - pain free . Get it done .

Nothing compared to a prostate biopsy . What I had blood in my urine for about 3 weeks and blood that was nasty looking in my seaman . No pain , just discomfort . But really get the o-scope and colonoscopy . Pain free and if that PSA gets high get a biopsy ASAP . just because you have high PSA does not me you have prostate cancer but if PSA is high possible enlarged prostate . in 2017 they did a biopsy on me and I had a gleason score of 2 and the Dr and I decided to watch and wait so 5 years later I have another biopsy and I was a Gleason score of 7 and my prostate had doubled in size from 33 cm to 69 cm so we agreed to pull the trigger and hopefully be able to remove it .

Due to back in 2020 my body went septic and they attached an abdominal pump , to pump plosion out of my belly and there may be too much scar tissue to remove the prostate . If they cannot remove it then they will radiate and I do not want a rotting organ in my body . So we shall see .

Second that regarding the colonoscopy; however I hated the prep like nothing else.

Hang tough Buzz!

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Second that regarding the colonoscopy; however I hated the prep like nothing else.

Hang tough Buzz!

HATE THE PREP : They have a new flavor now ; not like the od stuff . It has a remote taste of Gatoraid .

I leave here Flatwoods KY and to Emory in Atl leaving the 9th with dementiated mother-in that pees all over the place and wiol not wear her frickin diapers like she should . Surgery is not until the 11th but leaving early incase in-law has a crazy train trip and we are delayed .

[wango]

HATE THE PREP : They have a new flavor now ; not like the od stuff . It has a remote taste of Gatoraid .

I leave here Flatwoods KY and to Emory in Atl leaving the 9th with dementiated mother-in that pees all over the place and wiol not wear her frickin diapers like she should . Surgery is not until the 11th but leaving early incase in-law has a crazy train trip and we are delayed .

A better flavor? Great. My next one is in 6 years, maybe it will keep getting better.

Prayers to you dealing with the mother in law.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

OK gents get ready for the craziest up date I have ever given :

We headed south from KY to GA Demented mother in-law in tow . we leave and arriver the 9th for a procedure the 11th (Prostrate REMOVAL) leaving early in case Mother in-law freaks out of starts acting uncontrollable . Thinks went well took 11 hours for a 8 hour drive so not that bad , we settled in to our arb&b Went for surgery on the 11th for procedure and an over night stay . Well there were complications left over from when I went septic back in 2020 and in the coma . My intestines had scar tissue and had attached themselves to my skin and every where the urologist probed he punctured a bowel . A general surgeon was called in to repair and sow me up . In the hospital 11th - 14th and come back in 2 days for follow-up . by the time i got back 2 days later I was running a high fever and walking like a zombie . I had a sever bacterial infection in my blood .So 20 days later and pumped full of antibiotics and pain med ( that morphine is BA ) I had a rain tube and on a liquid diet 10 days then hospital food th rest of the time . Mean while the starter went out on our Expedition and it had to be towed I was un able to fix it . AT the garage the catalytic converter was stolen . Starter tow and all $1400.00 later it is fixed . while i am in the hospital Mother in-law has a stroke wife put her in a home in peachtree city . I get out on what day i do not recall . Spend 11 days in my wifes daughters home waiting on follow up . FO back to general surgeons office and he clears me for now radiation treatment on my prostrate . have to go back to Atl from where we are now Flatwoods hillbilly KY . Released me to the gym slowly so that is the positive of this matter . I can not believe the out come of this procedure .

As they say in cards read'um and weap

[wango]

OK gents get ready for the craziest up date I have ever given :

We headed south from KY to GA Demented mother in-law in tow . we leave and arriver the 9th for a procedure the 11th (Prostrate REMOVAL) leaving early in case Mother in-law freaks out of starts acting uncontrollable . Thinks went well took 11 hours for a 8 hour drive so not that bad , we settled in to our arb&b Went for surgery on the 11th for procedure and an over night stay . Well there were complications left over from when I went septic back in 2020 and in the coma . My intestines had scar tissue and had attached themselves to my skin and every where the urologist probed he punctured a bowel . A general surgeon was called in to repair and sow me up . In the hospital 11th - 14th and come back in 2 days for follow-up . by the time i got back 2 days later I was running a high fever and walking like a zombie . I had a sever bacterial infection in my blood .So 20 days later and pumped full of antibiotics and pain med ( that morphine is BA ) I had a rain tube and on a liquid diet 10 days then hospital food th rest of the time . Mean while the starter went out on our Expedition and it had to be towed I was un able to fix it . AT the garage the catalytic converter was stolen . Starter tow and all $1400.00 later it is fixed . while i am in the hospital Mother in-law has a stroke wife put her in a home in peachtree city . I get out on what day i do not recall . Spend 11 days in my wifes daughters home waiting on follow up . FO back to general surgeons office and he clears me for now radiation treatment on my prostrate . have to go back to Atl from where we are now Flatwoods hillbilly KY . Released me to the gym slowly so that is the positive of this matter . I can not believe the out come of this procedure .

As they say in cards read'um and weap

I’d give that a “like”, but that wouldn’t be true. I wish I had something uplifting or more encouraging to say buddy. But damn, your hits just keep on coming. Hang tough you old mf’r.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Does anyone who reads this know anything more than You Tube about prostrate surgery by Cyberknife ? Men I am really having to dig deep to keep on fighting . The good news is I have been released by my Dr's to start lifting again . I have 3 sessions at the gym under my old belt and going slow so I do not damage something .

[lovbyts]

Defiantly take it easy, yeah you dont want to strain and rip something. Yeah that is all crazy so stop trying to one up me.
Damn bro Im glad to hear you are doing betting but thats to much crazy even for me (knock on wood).

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Defiantly take it easy, yeah you don't want to strain and rip something. Yeah that is all crazy so stop trying to one up me.
Damn bro Im glad to hear you are doing betting but that's to much crazy even for me (knock on wood).

Thanks for the good advice from a seasoned lifter . I did 4 w/o and did every body part 1 set of 25 reps getting back used to even holding iron ! Today will be my 1st day with split body parts 2x20 Back , Biceps , & Traps , no more than 30 seconds between sets . Then cool off on a cycle . Now advanced ankle rehab 200 calf raises stretching at the top for more range of motion , do 25 body squats ass to grass no weight . then leg curls , then leg extensions , and finish up with sled and mainly no calf leg that got the ankle fusion and I am pleased with the way it is going should be 95% by mid summer and pain free . I hustle and do this in short of 2 hours . good or bad that is the truth and I do reach my goals

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

A question for knowledgeable members .

This is most likely a dumb question .

The Oncologist asked me to stop doing testosterone .

So now I am running .

Deca
Tren Enanthate
Primobolan
HGH
HCG
Proviron
Clen
CLomid
FLo- max
Finasteride

these if I understand correctly the top 3 are modified forms of Testosterone ?

[Cylon357]

A question for knowledgeable members .

This is most likely a dumb question .

The Oncologist asked me to stop doing testosterone .

So now I am running .

Deca
Tren Enanthate
Primobolan
HGH
HCG
CLomid
FLo- max
Finasteride

these if I understand correctly the top 3 are modified forms of Testosterone ?

I'm guessing the oncologist didn't know about anything else you were running?

I don't know what your goals are here, but I would say drop the deca, tren and primo, add back the test at TRT dose and keep everything else.

Assuming the oncologist is handling prostate issues, they likely want your DHT to essentially read 0. A TRT dose of test with the finasteride (5mg per day) will get you that, I bet (or at least pretty close to it). Adding in the primo (as a DHT derivative) is probably a bad plan, though I recognize it is likely there to help counter potential sides from the 19-nors. Which comes full circle on why I would drop all three of those and just run the test. Not to mention that those 3 might be UGL, and the Test could be legit US pharma if you wanted it.

Follow up question: why HCG and Clomid together? Is there a specific goal with that?

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I'm guessing the oncologist didn't know about anything else you were running?

I don't know what your goals are here, but I would say drop the deca , tren and primo, add back the test at TRT dose and keep everything else.

Assuming the oncologist is handling prostate issues, they likely want your DHT to essentially read 0. A TRT dose of test with the finasteride (5mg per day) will get you that, I bet (or at least pretty close to it). Adding in the primo (as a DHT derivative) is probably a bad plan, though I recognize it is likely there to help counter potential sides from the 19-nors. Which comes full circle on why I would drop all three of those and just run the test. Not to mention that those 3 might be UGL, and the Test could be legit US pharma if you wanted it.

Follow up question: why HCG and Clomid together? Is there a specific goal with that?

why HCG and Clomid together? Is there a specific goal with that?

Been on TRT and blast since 2012 and my ball were tiny and tender . They are fine now .

Oh also running Pharma Proviron and T-3 .

In a coma 2020
Severe Iron deficiency 2021 ( required infusions )
Covid 2021 ( viral Pneumonia )
Ankle Fusion June 2022
Nov 2022 Prostate removal went south and had Bacteria in my blood . Overnight stay was 5 days with 2 day follow up . Admitted for 20+ days to zap bacteria .
Now prepping for 2 weeks EOD radiation . Goal is to continue lifting slowly getting back in the groove and loose all this sedimentary weight . I can barley walk 100yrds and 7mths out from ankle fusion 63 years old . Trying to live a quality life and love HGH .

Almost forgot thank you for you measured and reasonable suggestion !

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Any new suggestions from anyone out there that has anywhere close to these obstacles to overcome and rehab from and lifting good now / living quality active lifestyle , 01/26/23 . 63 years old. Oh I am still waiting to get radiation on my prostate ; still I am in the gym daily off 1 day a week being careful not to get to aggressive and watch lbs of weight closely to be sure I do not lift to heavy and get my rotator cuffs flared up and painful ( low weights and 25 to 30 reps will feel the same as heavy weights . It feels so good to be back in the gym for going on 2mths with goals reached 95% of the time . Life is good !

[wango]

Any new suggestions from anyone out there that has anywhere close to these obstacles to overcome and rehab from and lifting good now / living quality active lifestyle , 01/26/23 . 63 years old. Oh I am still waiting to get radiation on my prostate ; still I am in the gym daily off 1 day a week being careful not to get to aggressive and watch lbs of weight closely to be sure I do not lift to heavy and get my rotator cuffs flared up and painful ( low weights and 25 to 30 reps will feel the same as heavy weights . It feels so good to be back in the gym for going on 2mths with goals reached 95% of the time . Life is good !

Now that is some great news Buzz - congrats!!!

[< <Samson> >]

I was off by a year, looking in here

Shit, get at it man

Prostate & radiation in the same sentence make me wanna hurl tho

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I was off by a year, looking in here

Shit, get at it man

Prostate & radiation in the same sentence make me wanna hurl tho

My sellf also ; so i just stay positive and learn more about my future with every Dr's visit .

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I'm guessing the oncologist didn't know about anything else you were running?

I don't know what your goals are here, but I would say drop the deca , tren and primo, add back the test at TRT dose and keep everything else.

Assuming the oncologist is handling prostate issues, they likely want your DHT to essentially read 0. A TRT dose of test with the finasteride (5mg per day) will get you that, I bet (or at least pretty close to it). Adding in the primo (as a DHT derivative) is probably a bad plan, though I recognize it is likely there to help counter potential sides from the 19-nors. Which comes full circle on why I would drop all three of those and just run the test. Not to mention that those 3 might be UGL, and the Test could be legit US pharma if you wanted it.

Follow up question: why HCG and Clomid together? Is there a specific goal with that?

My Dr gave me a script for Finasteride and doubled my flo-max . Just like you suggested and I am 20mg of Cypionate every other day . also Cialis daily . Pharma would not fill for daily so Dr gave me samples to fill in the gap . I do have to confess in all sadness with the lower testosterone my wood is not the same

[Cuz]

My Dr gave me a script for Finasteride and doubled my flo-max . Just like you suggested and I am 20mg of Cypionate every other day . also Cialis daily . Pharma would not fill for daily so Dr gave me samples to fill in the gap . I do have to confess in all sadness with the lower testosterone my wood is not the same

That equates to about 70mg a week? Where does that put your levels?