Austinite's Amino Acids, Vitamins, Minerals, Herbs and more.

[sawyer86]

Great!

[MagillaRU]

Austinite, I'm aware of the benefits of each of the supplements listed in the vascularity stack but was just curious about a few things regarding the necessity of taking the lysine pre-WO and the timing of the antioxidants (vit C and cysteine) post-WO? Would it be just as beneficial to take the lysine am/pm or have you noticed a difference adding it pre-WO? Also, I've read (don't have the source on hand) that antioxidants should not be taken too close to the peri-WO window. I was planning on taking the post-WO antioxidants about an hour or two after instead of immediately after with my shake....any thoughts?

Also, since adding the other ingredients (vascularity stack) to my normal caffeine and citrulline stack as well as replacing my multi with the basics (B12, C, zinc-copper, etc.), I've had more energy and have felt better overall!

Thanks!

[austinite]

Austinite, I'm aware of the benefits of each of the supplements listed in the vascularity stack but was just curious about a few things regarding the necessity of taking the lysine pre-WO and the timing of the antioxidants (vit C and cysteine) post-WO? Would it be just as beneficial to take the lysine am/pm or have you noticed a difference adding it pre-WO? Also, I've read (don't have the source on hand) that antioxidants should not be taken too close to the peri-WO window. I was planning on taking the post-WO antioxidants about an hour or two after instead of immediately after with my shake....any thoughts?

Also, since adding the other ingredients (vascularity stack) to my normal caffeine and citrulline stack as well as replacing my multi with the basics (B12, C, zinc-copper, etc.), I've had more energy and have felt better overall!

Thanks!

No. Don't vary from the stack, then it would no longer be my stack. It would be random. It took a while to get the doses and timing right. Even metabolic pathways were considered. This isn't just thrown together. That's why the reviews are all positive. It works as is.

Vitamin C is a MUST post workout. Has everything to do with Cortisol levels that are elevated at that stage.

Good job ditching the multivitamin! Glad to hear you feel better. Nothing like being at OPTIMUM levels. RDA sucks!

[MagillaRU]

Sounds good! I'll stick with it then. I'm actually surprised of how "full"/dense I've felt the last few days since starting this! I'm usually pretty vascular but have noticed a slight increase (only day 3) but training has been great! Can't wait until week 2! The role of Vitamin C acting on cortisol levels makes sense which is why I was confused so thanks for clearing that up!

Thanks again for making this thread! I've been in a rut the last month or so with my training and energy levels throughout the day and truly feel like a new person this past week! THANK YOU!

*The only dosages I might play with are the citrulline and arginine pre-wo but will maintain the recommended ratio.

[austinite]

Sounds good! I'll stick with it then. I'm actually surprised of how "full"/dense I've felt the last few days since starting this! I'm usually pretty vascular but have noticed a slight increase (only day 3) but training has been great! Can't wait until week 2! The role of Vitamin C acting on cortisol levels makes sense which is why I was confused so thanks for clearing that up!

Thanks again for making this thread! I've been in a rut the last month or so with my training and energy levels throughout the day and truly feel like a new person this past week! THANK YOU!

Oh... Just wait until you're on it for a few weeks!

Enjoy buddy.

[human project]

TRT is very common and certainly useful. Anyone can really benefit from DHEA but if you're young and healthy, there's no need for it. As far as overly hyped, isn't that the case with everything?

DHEA and pregnenolone are both a staple in my protocol.

I seem to get terrible headaches with DHEA.... Certain compounds have the weirdest reactions with me... Has anyone else had this issue???

[austinite]

I seem to get terrible headaches with DHEA.... Certain compounds have the weirdest reactions with me... Has anyone else had this issue???

Headaches are one of the side effects. Then again, that's a side effect listed on every supplement on earth. try lowering your dose. Have you eliminated it for a while to confirm that DHEA is the culprit?

[cj111]

You takin this on non workout days ? if so when do you do the PWO vit c , cysteine?

[austinite]

You takin this on non workout days ? if so when do you do the PWO vit c , cysteine?

Yep. Same time daily. on days off, same schedule. No change. Just pretend you worked out

[Doom44]

Aust it's ok to take citrulline malate (4g) and l-arginine (2.5g) mix with vitargo take it 20-30 minutes before workout?

[austinite]

^ I don't know what Vitargo is.

[redhawk01]

^ I don't know what Vitargo is.

http://www.vitargo.com/

[austinite]

^ Still don't know. I'm not going to sift through 100 products. lol. Doom, you'll need to post the label.

[Doom44]

^ Still don't know. I'm not going to sift through 100 products. lol. Doom, you'll need to post the label.

Vitargo is something like dextrose or maltodextrin but more faster.

[austinite]

Hey doom. That's nutritional facts. I need to know how much quantity of each active ingredient.

[Doom44]

Hey doom. That's nutritional facts. I need to know how much quantity of each active ingredient.

Sorry I can't find it man. But I hope this like will help http://www.vitargo.com/faq/

[cj111]

Whats the difference between Mag citrate and just straight mag?

I took some mag last night, with glutamine and some arg, I felt high as a kite. I duno what the hell it did to me but holy hell

[austinite]

Whats the difference between Mag citrate and just straight mag?

I took some mag last night, with glutamine and some arg, I felt high as a kite. I duno what the hell it did to me but holy hell

faster absorption, higher bioavailability.

lol. Magnesium is a muscle relaxer. Is it the first time you take Arginine? Maybe your body was shocked.

[austinite]

Sorry I can't find it man. But I hope this like will help Vitargo - The best carbohydrate in the world

Sorry brother. I want to help but nothing there either. Maybe email the company and ask them where to find it.

[Doom44]

Sorry brother. I want to help but nothing there either. Maybe email the company and ask them where to find it.

Alright,

[Doom44]

How about if I change the question. Can I take citrulline (4g) and l-arginine (2.5g) mix it with carbs drink take it 20-30 minutes before workout?

[austinite]

How about if I change the question. Can I take citrulline (4g) and l-arginine (2.5g) mix it with carbs drink take it 20-30 minutes before workout?

yes.

[Doom44]

yes.

Thanks

[Giggle]

Hey there - me with more questions.
First, I see you take Metformin before dinner. I thought it was incorporated early in the day like before breakfast? It's useful as I understand it, to better manage carb intake. Wouldn't it be better to have it active during breakfast and lunch instead of dinner, since the duration is 4 hours?

Second question - you supplement with Copper and Zinc. I've been reading a bit on cutting out these metals due to increased risk of Alzheimer's. Do you have any thoughts about this new research? Personally, I've eliminated them, but I'm looking for more studies to come along.
Thanks!!

[austinite]

Hey there - me with more questions.
First, I see you take Metformin before dinner. I thought it was incorporated early in the day like before breakfast? It's useful as I understand it, to better manage carb intake. Wouldn't it be better to have it active during breakfast and lunch instead of dinner, since the duration is 4 hours?

Second question - you supplement with Copper and Zinc. I've been reading a bit on cutting out these metals due to increased risk of Alzheimer's. Do you have any thoughts about this new research? Personally, I've eliminated them, but I'm looking for more studies to come along.
Thanks!!

Hi Giggle,

Half life is 6.2 hours. Plasma half life of Metformin is 18 hours. Ideally, you could split the tablet for AM/PM intake. I take T3 in the morning, T3 and Metformin need to be as far apart as possible to avoid adverse interaction. Irun T3 often, so when I am not on T3, I keep the same schedule anyway.

No concerns with Copper and Zinc. I have not seen any studies, only articles and theories. I use both in combination with DIM to keep my estrogen in range, that way I don't have to use an expensive prescription. There's a lot of benefit to these 2.

[Giggle]

Thanks - I didn't know that about T3.
I have a bottle of that set aside, but haven't needed it yet. I always worry that if I use too much T3, or too often, I could suppress my natural thyroid production. Is there any chance of that?

Gotya on the copper and zinc - but you be careful haha.

[austinite]

Thanks - I didn't know that about T3.
I have a bottle of that set aside, but haven't needed it yet. I always worry that if I use too much T3, or too often, I could suppress my natural thyroid production. Is there any chance of that?

Gotya on the copper and zinc - but you be careful haha.

Nothing to worry about with Thyroid suppression. It comes back quick!

http://forums.steroid.com/supplement...how-works.html

[Giggle]

Nothing to worry about with Thyroid suppression. It comes back quick!

http://forums.steroid.com/supplement...how-works.html

OOOH thank you very much - you're like a great big ole Santa Clause tonight!

[human project]

Headaches are one of the side effects. Then again, that's a side effect listed on every supplement on earth. try lowering your dose. Have you eliminated it for a while to confirm that DHEA is the culprit?

Honestly don't know.... I use to take basically all supplements "including DHEA" I could afford from end of my sophomore year of high school till a couple years into college... After I moved on to cycling it got too expensive not to mention I use to work in a few supplement stores over the years I used them... Now I only take bcaa's, additional lucine immediately upon waking pre cardio, bcaa's during, a shake here and there and glutamine.... A few other amino's from time to time but I'm thinking about getting back on a all out supplement stack if it can fit in to my budget... I do remember the DHEA giving me headaches which i almost never get...'

[sawyer86]

^ I don't know what Vitargo is.

Vitargo is a fast acting carb similar to dextrose but about ten times as expensive. Its claims to be the fastest acting carb thers is, something like 68% faster than sugar.

[cj111]

Was doing some reading today for school. Just learned an interesting fact..

Methionine is the first codon in a strand of mRNA !

When I read it I thought to myself hey that's an amino acid austinite uses in his vascularity stack!! Sigh, I need to get out more lol

[austinite]

Was doing some reading today for school. Just learned an interesting fact..

Methionine is the first codon in a strand of mRNA !

When I read it I thought to myself hey that's an amino acid austinite uses in his vascularity stack!! Sigh, I need to get out more lol

lol. Nice!

[MagillaRU]

Austitine - quick question re: the vascular stack. Does it matter whether it's L-cysteine or NAC? I've been taking 500mg of NAC instead of the 1,000mg of L-cysteine. Also, I think I may have to discontinue the Tyrosine before bed....had trouble sleeping last night (increased energy and racing thoughts). Or do you think those sides will dissipate over time?

[austinite]

Austitine - quick question re: the vascular stack. Does it matter whether it's L-cysteine or NAC? I've been taking 500mg of NAC instead of the 1,000mg of L-cysteine. Also, I think I may have to discontinue the Tyrosine before bed....had trouble sleeping last night (increased energy and racing thoughts). Or do you think those sides will dissipate over time?

Yes, it matters.

Never had tyrosine cause insomnia for me. Should go away though. Just take it when you're really sleepy.

[MagillaRU]

Damn. haha The store only had NAC and figured that would suffice. Thanks man!

[austinite]

Ugh. Ran out of Tyrosine and didn't even realize it. I guess it's Phenylalanine for now until Tyrosine comes in

[sawyer86]

Im just waiting for my methionine then i can get started.

[austinite]

Im just waiting for my methionine then i can get started.

Nice!

[austinite]

20 mg Synephrine
4 gram citrulline
3 gram arginine
2 gram ornithine
3 gram vit. C
50,000 IU vit. D3
5 mg cialis

Lemonade powerhouse.

[FRDave]

20 mg Synephrine
4 gram citrulline
3 gram arginine
2 gram ornithine
3 gram vit. C
50,000 IU vit. D3
5 mg cialis

Lemonade powerhouse.

Bet that sucker is bitter. I mix my arginine and citrulline in a shot of water and it taste like pure lemon juice extract. Super bitter.