So.... you want abs....

[Stubbs8]

I was picturing something like exercise #3 or 7 in the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw5u0rnMM20

[Stubbs8]

I was picturing something like exercise #3 or 7 in the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw5u0rnMM20

But I tried it and I felt nothing at all. Seemed like a waste of time, but I'm sure I wasn't doing something right. I just want to feel the burn in my obliques like the rest of my abs.

[oatmeal69]

I have added an exercise I saw a couple other guys doing. Stand sideways to a cable pull down, grab it, hold it to your shoulder, and use only your sides to pull it down. use heavy weight. That seems to nail my obliques pretty good, but you have to focus on not using other muscles to help.

[Alann314]

Wow so I just did these at the gym for the first time and the whole workout only took me 8 minutes...I know, pathetic but you gotta start somewhere. I was reaching failure on all the hanging raises at about 15. Let me just say I absolutely hate you right now Dan and I will probably hate you more when I wake up tomorrow...but in 3 months I will absolutely love you for sharing this. Just one question though. Is it better to start off with this before working out or do it last when you finish your workout.

[gearbox]

Wow so I just did these at the gym for the first time and the whole workout only took me 8 minutes...I know, pathetic but you gotta start somewhere. I was reaching failure on all the hanging raises at about 15. Let me just say I absolutely hate you right now Dan and I will probably hate you more when I wake up tomorrow...but in 3 months I will absolutely love you for sharing this. Just one question though. Is it better to start off with this before working out or do it last when you finish your workout.

It matters how important abs are to you. I choose them first for when I am fresh. Doesn't matter either way!
15 leg raises is a lot....

[Stubbs8]

So any word on the technique on the side leg raises? This video shows how I imagined it based on Dan's description. Exercises #3 and 7 in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw5u0rnMM20

[Zodiac82]

So any word on the technique on the side leg raises? This video shows how I imagined it based on Dan's description. Exercises #3 and 7 in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw5u0rnMM20

I believe so....or how u would bring ur legs up for a leg lift....instead of straight in front of u angle them out 45° from u....I do both as its unclear which way

-Release the Kracken!!!-

[Stubbs8]

Awesome! Thank you for your reply!! I tried like in that video, and felt nothing really. Maybe I'm not strong enough to move my legs over and up far enough yet

[gearbox]

Awesome! Thank you for your reply!! I tried like in that video, and felt nothing really. Maybe I'm not strong enough to move my legs over and up far enough yet

Probably not. Many of these moves are advanced and many cheat and use momentum and other muscles to complete movements. Stay strict and isolate those abs

[Alann314]

It matters how important abs are to you. I choose them first for when I am fresh. Doesn't matter either way!
15 leg raises is a lot....

Thank you for answering my question. I'm 5'5 and 125 pounds with 11% BF so my abs start to show when I work them out in about a week! My abs come in extremely fast for me so I asked myself why not just do them if they are the easiest muscle for me to see results with. I'm definitely going to do them before my workout. Thanks again gearbox!!

[gearbox]

Thank you for answering my question. I'm 5'5 and 125 pounds with 11% BF so my abs start to show when I work them out in about a week! My abs come in extremely fast for me so I asked myself why not just do them if they are the easiest muscle for me to see results with. I'm definitely going to do them before my workout. Thanks again gearbox!!

Not a problem happy to help. Where did you get your body fat check at, to know you're around 11 percent?

[Dougiefresh7707]

Gunna do this tommrrow after back workout but just vacuums for two days straight has my abs tight is this normal or are my abs just weak?

[Alann314]

Not a problem happy to help. Where did you get your body fat check at, to know you're around 11 percent?

A trainer at the gym. I hope it was accurate because I look like I have mass and no visible hanging fat or anything like that and you can see the small outlines of my abs.

[MuscleInk]

It matters how important abs are to you. I choose them first for when I am fresh. Doesn't matter either way!
15 leg raises is a lot....

I do them last.

Roman chair leg raises: 15 x 5
Cable crunches: 15 x 5 (120lbs)
Russian twists: 15 x 5 (25lbs)

[gearbox]

A trainer at the gym. I hope it was accurate because I look like I have mass and no visible hanging fat or anything like that and you can see the small outlines of my abs.

Sounds like your around 16% bro. You can pm me a pics if you want. Either way doesn't matter but I asked cause many ppl have no clue what real 10% looks like. We each hold it differently but a true 10% is tough

[gearbox]

I do them last.

Roman chair leg raises: 15 x 5
Cable crunches: 15 x 5 (120lbs)
Russian twists: 15 x 5 (25lbs)

Last! I am surprised you can do them at all with your deficit you got going on...

[MuscleInk]

Last! I am surprised you can do them at all with your deficit you got going on...

No guts, no glory.

[Alann314]

Sounds like your around 16% bro. You can pm me a pics if you want. Either way doesn't matter but I asked cause many ppl have no clue what real 10% looks like. We each hold it differently but a true 10% is tough

Yea no problem ill Pm a pic after the gym. You can give me advice and probably a good estimate on my BF%

[MuscleInk]

Sounds like your around 16% bro. You can pm me a pics if you want. Either way doesn't matter but I asked cause many ppl have no clue what real 10% looks like. We each hold it differently but a true 10% is tough

Amen!!!

Chasing 6%!!!!!!!

[gearbox]

Amen!!!

Chasing 6%!!!!!!!

Chase is the correct word!!!!
Wanna bet who get there first old man!

[Alann314]

Sounds like your around 16% bro. You can pm me a pics if you want. Either way doesn't matter but I asked cause many ppl have no clue what real 10% looks like. We each hold it differently but a true 10% is tough

Well since I am a newbie poster it wont let me send PM's for some reason so I'll just link them here. 5'5 125 pounds. Most fat is located in the love handle area

[MuscleInk]

Chase is the correct word!!!!
Wanna bet who get there first old man!

You've got a head start peewee.

[gearbox]

You've got a head start peewee.

A man with your knowledge, skills, money, and drive should pass me up. I am on test only. Not every compound known to man

[gearbox]

Well since I am a newbie poster it wont let me send PM's for some reason so I'll just link them here. 5'5 125 pounds. Most fat is located in the love handle area
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You have a decent base to start build from. You are about 14-16% based on the pics.
Keep up the work and gains will come.

[MuscleInk]

A man with your knowledge, skills, money, and drive should pass me up. I am on test only. Not every compound known to man

More is better isn't it?

....and just to clarify, I have NOT done SARMs (yet). Lol

....and don't you worry, I'm gonna get there....if the starvation doesn't kill me first. Lol

[gearbox]

More is better isn't it?

....and just to clarify, I have NOT done SARMs (yet). Lol

....and don't you worry, I'm gonna get there....if the starvation doesn't kill me first. Lol

I can't wait to see it. The dedication alone tells a lot about the individual
I am shooting for 9% then reevaluate depending on how I look

[Zodiac82]

You have a decent base to start build from. You are about 14-16% based on the pics.
Keep up the work and gains will come.

agreed....definitely good base to begin with and yeh roughly 15%

-Release the Kracken!!!-

[Zodiac82]

oh and about doin the side legs as in the YouTube vid....I do those particular ones using the roman chair....lol ppl look at me like im crazy but it hits em like crazy on that one

-Release the Kracken!!!-

[MuscleInk]

I can't wait to see it. The dedication alone tells a lot about the individual
I am shooting for 9% then reevaluate depending on how I look

You're on the right path! Keep doing it buddy. We both know that some days are harder than others but keep your eyes on the prize!!!!

Remember you have to PUSH every day!

Persist
Until
Something
Happens

[Zodiac82]

Remember you have to PUSH every day!

Persist
Until
Something
Happens

I like that

-Release the Kracken!!!-

[gearbox]

You're on the right path! Keep doing it buddy. We both know that some days are harder than others but keep your eyes on the prize!!!!

Remember you have to PUSH every day!

Persist
Until
Something
Happens

Now it doesn't sound like lifting anymore but something else lol

[Dougiefresh7707]

Just did this workout and my core must be weak I couldn't even to the full workout I had to do crunches while my partner did the workout and vise versa idk if that has an effect but dam I know ill be sore tommorrow.

[Alann314]

You have a decent base to start build from. You are about 14-16% based on the pics.
Keep up the work and gains will come.

Now I feel like a fatass lol. Would u recommend to keep bulking and worry about BF later?

[MuscleInk]

Now it doesn't sound like lifting anymore but something else lol

Lol.....if it burns cals, DO IT!!!!!

[gearbox]

Now I feel like a fatass lol. Would u recommend to keep bulking and worry about BF later?

I would recommend seeing if you can afford to eat clean and follow a solid macro split. To see if you have what it takes to follow a cut or bulk diet. Many ppl have it backwards with bulking I they believe thats the time to cheat and I say thats the no no time.

[gearbox]

Lol.....if it burns cals, DO IT!!!!!

Told her it will not fit my macros!!!

[MuscleInk]

Told her it will not fit my macros!!!

Good man! Lol

[MuscleInk]

Told her it will not fit my macros!!!

HAW told me I seem unhappy lately. Well...DUH!!!! I'm fvcking HUNGRY AND TIRED all the damn time right now!!!!! Lol

[gearbox]

HAW told me I seem unhappy lately. Well...DUH!!!! I'm fvcking HUNGRY AND TIRED all the damn time right now!!!!! Lol

Tell her to spend less time noticing your mood and more time cooking your plain fish or chicken so it's ready for you when your hungry which is all the time

[Papiriqui]

I have the same issue with the side leg raises, the times i have tried it i cant feel shyt. Just my regular ol abs lol. Im going to try different angles and bending legs and stuff until i find the spot where i feel my obliques getting a pounding. So far i have not tried the whole workout together, i just do ol leg lifts and some wood chops and the side crunch thing along with the decline bench crunch at the beginning.

I can do already 15-20 with a small pause at the bottom to make sure there is no rocking, after first set my forearms are on fire!!!!

The hanging straps unless i keep trying to use them to get use to them, they dont work for me, i get blood marks under my skin, lines of blood that takes days to go away just like when i do heavy weight hack squats.

Just ordered some straps/hooks to aid in the hanging part so i can perform a few more reps and give my arms a bit of rest.

I can definitely see when i contract my abs getting deeper, obviously i need to lose some major fat around my stomach but i can see the improvement on my abs for sure!!!!