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Thread: My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

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    I'm not sure if it's been discussed earlier in the thread but is there a certain timing for taking hcg . I know it's twice per week and so is the test e but is it OK to do both the same day as in Monday and Thursday.

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    Very good and valuable info! Thanks for the post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by groupa199 View Post
    I'm not sure if it's been discussed earlier in the thread but is there a certain timing for taking hcg. I know it's twice per week and so is the test e but is it OK to do both the same day as in Monday and Thursday.
    Timing does not matter. Just be consistent in fairly even intervals. Twice weekly.
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    How much bottles of nolva, clomid am armidex should i get for the beginner cycle from ar-r ???

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    Just had some general blood work done for my primary and they said my cholesterol was great. Overall was 140, triglycerides was 74, buy my hdl was 42. Would this be a concern for cycling? I have read cycling can lower hdl and am afraid this would be bad.

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    Great read. Thanks for taking the time out of your schedule to educate us newbies.

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    That's was a great read. Really opened my eye as far as injuries, over protein, expected gains and everything else.

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    I feel like I am left with more questions than answers after reading this. As someone who has a degree in biology, I would have never guessed cycling would be so complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bioengineered
    I feel like I am left with more questions than answers after reading this. As someone who has a degree in biology, I would have never guessed cycling would be so complicated.
    Wait till you read other educational threads

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    need reliable info

    I am 34 years old, and about to start working out again...it has been a few years..I am currenty about 5 foot 9 and around 250 pounds, def on the fat side....i wish to lose fat and have lean muscle (i have used Suss in the past and it got me strong and very big which is not what i am lookin for this time)......i do not wish to become built like an ox stayin very stocky even though i would be stronger and more muscular then i am now...i would like to eventually be around 200 pounds but be lean and cut if possible.....at first i was told to use winstrol alone....but now my friend is tellin me to do a blend of primobolin, cypionate , and ethenate....i know nothin about these.....can someone please give me some info on that blend so i know what to respond to him, and more importantly what is best for me and the results i want, with the body type i am startin with

    2 things i am sure of

    1. i look puffy aleady so water retention is something i would hate to have

    2. i cannot afford HGH

    i appreciate any info greatly...laymens terms would help THANKS GUYS

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    This is good stuff. Reading is the best workout before hit anything!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bioengineered View Post
    I feel like I am left with more questions than answers after reading this. As someone who has a degree in biology, I would have never guessed cycling would be so complicated.
    Ask what you need to ask. If the thread didn't answer your questions, we can assist you further. But leaving a comments saying you have questions won't really get you anywhere.

    I'm very curious what questions you have that aren't answered. The majority seem to have found this thread very useful so you have peeked my interest.

    Welcome aboard by the way!
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    Oh I've got questions for you.....
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    Austin,
    Question please....I`m 57 yrs old...5`11....176lbs...been in the gym my entire life....still lean and fit....BUT....need a little pick me up....energy, stamina and strength has been dropping off a bit and I`m ready for my FIRST cycle! Read your post....would you recommend this stack/cycle for me?

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    He's off-line but the proper first step would be full BW. There's an example of it in the Finding A Doc Sticky thread at the top of the HRT Forum. It may simply be time for hormone replacement. Google the "ADAM" questionnaire and see how you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebark View Post
    Austin,
    Question please....I`m 57 yrs old...5`11....176lbs...been in the gym my entire life....still lean and fit....BUT....need a little pick me up....energy, stamina and strength has been dropping off a bit and I`m ready for my FIRST cycle! Read your post....would you recommend this stack/cycle for me?
    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    He's off-line but the proper first step would be full BW. There's an example of it in the Finding A Doc Sticky thread at the top of the HRT Forum. It may simply be time for hormone replacement. Google the "ADAM" questionnaire and see how you do.
    I agree with Kelkel. Blood work would be a great deciding factor. You're either at or approaching the inevitable late-onset hypogonadism. TRT could take you to the next level.

    that being said, you can cycle if you want, wouldn't hurt but be sure to observe blood work as outlined.
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    Wow, amazing information! Thanks so much for all the help!!!

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    The "Low T" centers that have opened up..are they all basically doing the same things???...or are there substantial differences in the services, testing and treatments they provide??

    If different what should I be looking for?

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    and my family Dr prescribed Andro Gel....I`ve been using it...without any real results that I can see/feel....how much different would inject-able TRT be?
    Last edited by thebark; 05-29-2015 at 08:58 AM.

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    Thank you so much for taking the time to write and post this great information! you have no idea how much it helps noobs like me =)

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    Hi and thanks for this thread ,ost of my questions have been answered by it but i am wondering about dosage, time on and pct for my test propp cycle.
    stats 5,5 178 15%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captein_Nemo View Post
    Hi and thanks for this thread ,ost of my questions have been answered by it but i am wondering about dosage, time on and pct for my test propp cycle.
    stats 5,5 178 15%
    prop PCT timing is in the article in segment #6. 8 weeks at 100 to 150 EOD.
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    Thanks alot champ and agen for your articles

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    Answered questions I definitely would've asked. Thank you

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    Wow. Thanks for the reality check. Superior info for the newbie such as myself.I feel less sure of my motives than I did one hour ago. Again, thanks for the details about the proper way to approach this lifestyle choice. I need to meditate and ponder some more. I am indebted to your wisdom,

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    hey fellas, a little bit about myself. i'm 29 yo, 6'2 and around 200lbs.. ive been lifting weights for around 5 years on and off, highest weight i was on 230lbs. last few month was a bit hard for me so I lost some weight, but finally i got a better job (cctv security) so i can have a normal routine, eat anytime i want and train always on the same days. I did two cycles 1 year ago, was 500 test e/12 weeks and test e and deca (500/400) for 10 weeks. sadly i couldnt manage to save my gains because of too much stress in life, not looking for excuses now, just want to go back on track. next month i'm planning to start a new cycle, definitely for mass. what would be your suggestions? i was thinking about 12 weeks cycle of 750g test e, 500 deca and 50mg dbol ed(6 weeks), bumb up my calories, eat, train, sleep and grow... any help appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by classic86 View Post
    hey fellas, a little bit about myself. i'm 29 yo, 6'2 and around 200lbs.. ive been lifting weights for around 5 years on and off, highest weight i was on 230lbs. last few month was a bit hard for me so I lost some weight, but finally i got a better job (cctv security) so i can have a normal routine, eat anytime i want and train always on the same days. I did two cycles 1 year ago, was 500 test e/12 weeks and test e and deca(500/400) for 10 weeks. sadly i couldnt manage to save my gains because of too much stress in life, not looking for excuses now, just want to go back on track. next month i'm planning to start a new cycle, definitely for mass. what would be your suggestions? i was thinking about 12 weeks cycle of 750g test e, 500 deca and 50mg dbol ed(6 weeks), bumb up my calories, eat, train, sleep and grow... any help appreciated!
    Bro, I'm no expert, so I'll let the experts like Austinite reply, but it seems that the theme is use the lowest amount possible to get gains. You set the bar real high with that cycle. You could probably get sick ass gains from just 500 mg a week of test. Especially after two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classic86 View Post
    hey fellas, a little bit about myself. i'm 29 yo, 6'2 and around 200lbs.. ive been lifting weights for around 5 years on and off, highest weight i was on 230lbs. last few month was a bit hard for me so I lost some weight, but finally i got a better job (cctv security) so i can have a normal routine, eat anytime i want and train always on the same days. I did two cycles 1 year ago, was 500 test e/12 weeks and test e and deca(500/400) for 10 weeks. sadly i couldnt manage to save my gains because of too much stress in life, not looking for excuses now, just want to go back on track. next month i'm planning to start a new cycle, definitely for mass. what would be your suggestions? i was thinking about 12 weeks cycle of 750g test e, 500 deca and 50mg dbol ed(6 weeks), bumb up my calories, eat, train, sleep and grow... any help appreciated!
    Welcome aboard. Please start a new thread. This thread is for first cycles only.
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    Austinite I live in NY and am having trouble getting bloodwork done. Any suggestions? I want to start first cycle asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Welcome aboard. Please start a new thread. This thread is for first cycles only.
    thanks! and sorry about that

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    Welcome to all the newbies and let's hear what you have to say! This is this best site where you get the truth and always on any products and workout schedules. If you need any help with anything all you have to do is ask someone and we will help you out the best way we can , welcome aboard and glad you are here

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyReed View Post
    Welcome to all the newbies and let's hear what you have to say! This is this best site where you get the truth and always on any products and workout schedules. If you need any help with anything all you have to do is ask someone and we will help you out the best way we can , welcome aboard and glad you are here

    Welcome aboard and start a thread and let us get to know you

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    Austin,
    OK...so my "local" clinic does a low T test....and then they use one of the following:
    cypionate
    enanathate
    propionate

    along with the possible use of HGC....and Arimidex or Clomid

    any advice?

    THANKS!!

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    i was thinking about a 2nd cycle of test only hopefully test e maybe test sustanon ..but i was going to run it 500ml week for 10 weeks plus i have 1cc left of test 400 from my 1 st cycle,i will take that at week 11..
    do you think the test 400 is still good? it has been in a room temp room since dec?
    i will take arimidex .25ml every other day..i must ask though if i take arimidex is it really needed? because my first cycle i did not have excess water retention or sore nipples etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebark View Post
    Austin,
    OK...so my "local" clinic does a low T test....and then they use one of the following:
    cypionate
    enanathate
    propionate

    along with the possible use of HGC....and Arimidex or Clomid

    any advice?

    THANKS!!
    Any advice on what buddy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by raymondtrudeau View Post
    i was thinking about a 2nd cycle of test only hopefully test e maybe test sustanon ..but i was going to run it 500ml week for 10 weeks plus i have 1cc left of test 400 from my 1 st cycle,i will take that at week 11..
    do you think the test 400 is still good? it has been in a room temp room since dec?
    i will take arimidex .25ml every other day..i must ask though if i take arimidex is it really needed? because my first cycle i did not have excess water retention or sore nipples etc...
    Yes, should be good still unless you see it crash.
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    Just curious what you might recommend from that list....or would that be based on blood test results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Yes, should be good still unless you see it crash.
    Ok are you saying I will be fine without it unless I crash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raymondtrudeau View Post
    Ok are you saying I will be fine without it unless I crash?
    Crashing is when you see little crystals floating in your gear. It happens over time, it separates and can be fixed by heating in boiling water. There is a whole section in the stickies I believe on crashed gear and how to fix it. Just check it before you use it, and if you see crystals in it, check out the thread .

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    Just go to the anabolic laboratory section.

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