Breaking News Deadly School Shooting In Newtown Ct.

[Flagg]

proof of lunks theory in serious effect lol

Naturally I dont want those little shits to be shot, but what kind of world are we living in that people are not only apathetic about things like this, but kids are now seeing a news coverage about this event as a personal inconvenience?

[Lunk1]

Naturally I dont want those little shits to be shot, but what kind of world are we living in that people are not only apathetic about things like this, but kids are now seeing a news coverage about this event as a personal inconvenience?

Anothe prime example of the decay of American family values!

[Flagg]

Anothe prime example of the decay of American family values!

In some ways those tweets are worse than what happened. This Lorenzo kid takes his mothers gun, kills her, goes to the school, kills all those kids and teachers and kills himself. I mean it staggers the mind how someone can do that.

But those tweets....such bloodless selfishness. I mean, that is the future of America tweeting that stuff. These kids were more upset that Justin Bieber's interview was going to be cancelled than news coverage about a national tragedy.

Unsurprisingly, two of those kids have already closed their twitter accounts and the rest are getting an absolute ton of shit from the Twitter community. They are bleating they didn't know the full story. Hell with them. They deserved to be named and shamed.

[Flagg]

I still cant get my head around those tweets. If 5 Justin Bieber fans can post shit like that, im sure there were a ton more doing it. These 5 just so happened to be caught.

Humanity at it's ugliest.

[Rwy]

My theory is not a theory it's a fact. The degradation of family values across the board has led to increased crime, mental illness, drug abuse and countless other problems. If you look at all of these ppl you will see that they all have disfunctional family lives.

These things are not done by kids raised in a strong home with good morels and family values!

I agree but my point is you cannot control how people raise their children. You can control guns

[Rwy]

Naturally I dont want those little shits to be shot, but what kind of world are we living in that people are not only apathetic about things like this, but kids are now seeing a news coverage about this event as a personal inconvenience?

I agree they seem desensitized by these events

[Rwy]

Something needs to be put in place if you know a family that has members who are not well that have fire arms they should be reported to the police and removed form the home. I am sure people knew this family had guns.

[Lunk1]

In some ways those tweets are worse than what happened. This Lorenzo kid takes his mothers gun, kills her, goes to the school, kills all those kids and teachers and kills himself. I mean it staggers the mind how someone can do that.

But those tweets....such bloodless selfishness. I mean, that is the future of America tweeting that stuff. These kids were more upset that Justin Bieber's interview was going to be cancelled than news coverage about a national tragedy.

Unsurprisingly, two of those kids have already closed their twitter accounts and the rest are getting an absolute ton of shit from the Twitter community. They are bleating they didn't know the full story. Hell with them. They deserved to be named and shamed.

If my daughter behaved that way there would be hell to pay! America as a society is failing!

[Rwy]

Right... because the police can make it in time? By the time the police showed up and were involved; a total of 27/28 people were dead. If ONE adult in that school had a pistol... it may have been 2-3-5-7 people dead; not 27......

You think taking guns away from LAW ABIDING LEGAL CITIZENS is going to stop mass shootings or any other violent crime? Are you serious? How? Give me ONE way this could have been prevented with stricter gun laws? CT has one of the strictest state laws in the US in respects to gun ownership. You think a dude looking to kill dozens of people gives a rats ass about what the law says about gun ownership and licensing? You think that if he couldn't steal those guns from his mother he couldn't get them elsewhere illegally? Common dude.. wake up...

or the person you speak of is killed also and now the gunmen has more ammo to kill more children

[Lunk1]

I agree but my point is you cannot control how people raise their children. You can control guns

Oh don't I know it! Quickest way to a fight is to try to tell a parent how they should raise their kids!

We just all have to do the best we can raising our own and hopefully it will be passed on!

[AXx]

I still cant get my head around those tweets. If 5 Justin Bieber fans can post shit like that, im sure there were a ton more doing it. These 5 just so happened to be caught.

Humanity at it's ugliest.

The sad reality is that there probably were/was a lot more. Like you said they are the ones that were caught.

Desensitized would be an under statement. Kids these days including mine sometimes/always think they are invincible. It also seems like they/we quickly forget where we came from or what events that lead is to come together. Families going thru tragedies will come together but quickly forget what events brought them together.

We are in such a hurry to get things done and work for meaningless bullshit. We have lost touch with our children and reality. It's very sad I see it everyday working in the field I work in. We need to put the computers down, put the Facebook/twitter put the headphones down and EAT as a family again and SLOW THE FVCK DOWN AND ENJOY EACH OTHER MORE.

Sorry I chased a couple rabbits there but whatever you get the point.

[Shol'va]

We are helpless in cases like this and all one can do is raise his or her own children the best they can and hope others live and do by our example. But also I think it has to do with the economy and stresses caused by it, tearing apart families even more. Or moms and dads having to work more than one job to make ends meet and no time for the kids. The stresses of the parents are now affecting the kids maybe. The only way to know for sure is for our economy to get much better and people get back to jobs that can sustain their families again. In other words stability. But also there are some bad apple among us that there is no explaining for except just plain evil. Some say America is failing but if we put it in perspective with how many people we have now in America verses how many people do these bad things, we aren't failing. It's kind of like that rocket umbrella that Israel has to protect itself from incoming rockets from Gaza. It works great for the most part but if one or two gets through then everyone is saying it doesn't work. The world has always had bad people in it over the years. Look at Jack The Ripper, Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin. When times like these happen it reminds us that we don't live in a perfect society and I doubt we ever will. I do think that we need to re examine our laws, when it comes to rape and murder, because the ones we now have on the books aren't working. I know a lot of members on here aren't religious, but even the Bible says and eye for an eye. And if a man commmits murder, send him to the lord to be judged. In other words kill him. I'm all for that providing we are absolutely sure we have the right man who did the crime before putting him down. But in this and other cases it seems now they all kill themselves at the end of their killing sprees. That in itself tells me that they know what they did was wrong and knew what they were doing in the first place. Lets hope our leaders do try to change something. At first I thought it would be a great idea to make it more difficult or impossible for certain members of society to be allowed any guns. But, this kid didn't own the ones he used. So it would not matter. and even if they stopped allowing guns to all there are so many out there now that it wouldn't matter either. Plus add all the smuggling of guns across the borders. Although some have said that we could stop them at our borders. I say how is that working for our drug situation? More flows across the border now than ever. I know none of us on here can make a difference but at least this gives us all a sounding board to post our frustrations on this type of insanity. Lets all hope for a more settled Christmas and hopefully this won't completely destroy your happiness for the season. But for those who lost loved ones no words can help them at this time, with packages under their trees that will never be opened. I wish them all well and hope our government and charities come to their aid during this tough time.

[AXx]

Shol'va I like you buddy. You have changed my view points towards certain people and I applaud you for that. My assumptions and previous thoughts are apologetic in my eyes. So thanks

[AXx]

Disregard the Alabama and Auburn stuff and listen to the message. This is and article from a Alabama sports news.


This is not an article about the recent tragedy in Connecticut, but it also is. This is not an article about political views, but it also is. This is not an article about dealing with pain, but it also is.
We live in strange but wonderful times. We have technology that allows us to communicate across oceans in the blink of an eye. We are able to fight horrible maladies like cancer and HIV. More people can read and write now than ever before in the history of the world. But aside from all of our great wondrous achievements, we are still human beings. We are the same species that condoned slavery; we are the same people that allowed the Holocaust to happen; we are the humans who crucified Christ and shot Martin Luther King. We like to believe that we are a civilized and cultured people; that we are advanced and special. But our DNA hasn't changed much. We are human.
Humans always want to form tribes. It's actually a wonderful trait of the human race that we wish to be in a social structure with other people. Without this trait we could never have built the pyramids or eradicated smallpox.
But this tribal instinct works against us too. We want to form teams, we want to be on a "right" or "wrong" side. Sometimes we form these "tribes" for fun and exciting reasons; Alabama fans and Auburn fans in the Iron Bowl, or Team USA and Team Canada in the Olympic Hockey finals. But these tribes can also be easily turned against us in times of tragedy. We want security, we want reassurance, we want safety, we want "our" people. This tragedy could cause us to become even more split apart, to turn on one another. Or we could realize that the enemy here is evil itself, and we could look to each other for support and love.
This tragedy could be used as a starting point for us to reanalyze ourselves and our families. What's really important, and what kind of legacy do we want to leave behind? We all have a limited time on this earth, something that is made crystal clear on days like today. I hope you will use every day for others, love your family as hard as you can, and smile as much as possible.
I know I speak for everyone when I say all of our thoughts and prayers are with those affected by this awful act. We won't ever forget you.

[likelifting]

I agree but my point is you cannot control how people raise their children. You can control guns

Not without effecting the 2nd amendment. Even if you did control guns, crazy people with find a way to do harm.

Hands of my guns, bro.

[Lunk1]

We are helpless in cases like this and all one can do is raise his or her own children the best they can and hope others live and do by our example. But also I think it has to do with the economy and stresses caused by it, tearing apart families even more. Or moms and dads having to work more than one job to make ends meet and no time for the kids. The stresses of the parents are now affecting the kids maybe. The only way to know for sure is for our economy to get much better and people get back to jobs that can sustain their families again. In other words stability. But also there are some bad apple among us that there is no explaining for except just plain evil. Some say America is failing but if we put it in perspective with how many people we have now in America verses how many people do these bad things, we aren't failing. It's kind of like that rocket umbrella that Israel has to protect itself from incoming rockets from Gaza. It works great for the most part but if one or two gets through then everyone is saying it doesn't work. The world has always had bad people in it over the years. Look at Jack The Ripper, Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin. When times like these happen it reminds us that we don't live in a perfect society and I doubt we ever will. I do think that we need to re examine our laws, when it comes to rape and murder, because the ones we now have on the books aren't working. I know a lot of members on here aren't religious, but even the Bible says and eye for an eye. And if a man commmits murder, send him to the lord to be judged. In other words kill him. I'm all for that providing we are absolutely sure we have the right man who did the crime before putting him down. But in this and other cases it seems now they all kill themselves at the end of their killing sprees. That in itself tells me that they know what they did was wrong and knew what they were doing in the first place. Lets hope our leaders do try to change something. At first I thought it would be a great idea to make it more difficult or impossible for certain members of society to be allowed any guns. But, this kid didn't own the ones he used. So it would not matter. and even if they stopped allowing guns to all there are so many out there now that it wouldn't matter either. Plus add all the smuggling of guns across the borders. Although some have said that we could stop them at our borders. I say how is that working for our drug situation? More flows across the border now than ever. I know none of us on here can make a difference but at least this gives us all a sounding board to post our frustrations on this type of insanity. Lets all hope for a more settled Christmas and hopefully this won't completely destroy your happiness for the season. But for those who lost loved ones no words can help them at this time, with packages under their trees that will never be opened. I wish them all well and hope our government and charities come to their aid during this tough time.

Far and by one of the best posts I have seen you make my friend! Very well said!!!!

Axx...your right as well. Dining room table dinners, helping kids with homeworks, playing ball and taking interest in their lives! It all starts somewhere guys...call it a movement to get back to good old fashioned values, it's whats needed.

Kids are like puppies....it's our job as parents to train them properly !

[Rwy]

Ha you guys are cute lets go hang out with Santa, the tooth fairy, and easter bunny while we are at it

[Lunk1]

Ha you guys are cute lets go hang out with Santa, the tooth fairy, and easter bunny while we are at it

So negetive anymore

[Shol'va]

Ha you guys are cute lets go hang out with Santa, the tooth fairy, and easter bunny while we are at it

Someones in a mood...lol

[dan991]

Well- after watching the interview with the State Police on CNN in CT; there was nothing stopping this guy- nothing. EVERY victim in this shooting was shot with a .223 caliber AR-15 and nothing outside of a bullet to the head would have stopped this guy. According to the corner; all twenty children were in 1st grade putting them between the ages of 5-7 years old and this crazy fvcker stood there spraying the entire classroom until all of them were dead. Any idea what a .223 round would do to someone whom weighs probably about 45-55 lbs?



Anyone that thinks that any gun control law, banning of guns, or whatever would have stopped this guy... you're nuts.

I feel sorry for the families of the victims. Imagine being a parent of one of these children and looking at all the un-opened presents Christmas morning knowing they will never be opened. Sad... so sad.

[Shsm]

Pictures of the perpretrator.



Such an ugly awkward looking piece of shit. I'm going to pray every night he's down there in Hell getting hanged upside down from his ball sack by a rusty hook while simultaneously being punched repeatedly in the stomach by the Devil himself. F*ck him.

"5:19 p.m.: The gunman who massacred 20 children in a Connecticut elementary school riddled them with bullets, shooting some of them as many as 11 times, the medical examiner said today."

"4:22 p.m.: Based on Sandy Hook elementary school directory, all the kids killed in the shooting were in the 1st grade. They were in 2 different 1st grade classes. In one class, almost all of the students were killed - 15 of 16 in the directory. In the other class, taught by Victoria Soto, only some of the kids were killed - 5 of 16 in the directory."

"3:52 p.m.: Conn. Chief Medical Examiner Dr. H Wayne Carver said that the children appear to have died quickly. Many were shot at close range by a semi-automatic rifle. Several guns were found but the medical examiner said the .223 caliber Bushmaster appeared to be Adam Lanza's primary weapon. Each of his victims, most of them first graders, were shot more than once."

[dan991]

2005/2006 Birthdays.... sad.

State Police Release Names of Deceased in Newtown School Shooting

Charlotte Bacon 02/22/06
Daniel Barden 09/25/05
Rachel DaVino 07/17/83
Olivia Engel 07/18/06
Josephine Gay 12/11/05
Ana M. Marquez-Greene 04/04/06
Dylan Hockley 03/08/06
Dawn Hochsprung 06/28/65
Madeleine F. Hsu 07/10/06
Catherine V. Hubbard 06/08/06
Chase Kowalski 10/31/05
Jesse Lewis 06/30/06
James Mattioli 03/22/06
Grace McDonnell 11/04/05
Anne Marie Murphy 07/25/60
Emilie Parker 05/12/06
Jack Pinto 05/06/06
Noah Pozner 11/20/06
Caroline Previdi 09/07/06
Jessica Rekos 05/10/06
Avielle Richman 10/17/06
Lauren Russeau 06/82
Mary Sherlach 02/11/56
Victoria Soto 01/04/85
Benjamin Wheeler 09/12/06
Allison N. Wyatt 07/03/06

[dan991]

And according to the CT State Police website- the gun used was ILLEGAL. CT Law prohibits that exact model weapon from being purchased or owned in the state.

http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp...ppNav_GID=2080

Under assault weapons, semi-automatic prohibited list.

AND... he attempted to purchase a gun legally and was DENIED. So.. he just got an illegal one.... and stole it.

[DB1982]

Half what your hearing on the news is not 100% accurate yet.

Seen on the news the guns were registered to his mother.
And he used 2 semiautomatic pistols. With the AR 15 found in the truck of his mothers car which he drove to the school.

So before you go claiming this or that let the police do there jobs and figure the craziness out.

Lunk nailed it starts at home plain n simple.
I grow up in a big city in the rough part of town. Around everything bad you could imagine . I lost friends at a young age due to violence .
With everything stacked against me and my brothers growing up we still managed to grow up n living a good life.
Gun are not the problem people are.

In this day and age everyone believes they should have whatever they want n not have to work that hard to get it.
And when they can't get its someone else's fault.

To whoever said we don't need more heroes you sir are wrong
That's exactly what we need.

More people who stand up for the rights of others.
Society tells us to not intervene and call for help.
Well those kids and teachers didn't have TIME to WAIT.

It only takes one person to make a difference.
I would gladly lay down my life for another in mortal danger especially a child.
Imagine if it were your child,wife,mother,brother or father.
That could have saved had somebody found the courage in themselves to do what others were afraid to do. How would you feel.

Take a look around when a crime happens nobody does anything but wait for the cops.
If great men/women through out our history as a nation waited for someone else to help were would we be???

What if Abraham Lincoln ,Martin Luther King, Theodore Roosevelt ,Rosa Parks n Steve Jobs all waited for someone else??
But they didn't they did what it took at the time to make a difference.

Stand up for what you believe in
Protect the ones you love
Helps others in need

Stop standing behind spineless n greedy politicians. Who only care is money n their agenda.

[dan991]

Half what your hearing on the news is not 100% accurate yet.

Seen on the news the guns were registered to his mother.
And he used 2 semiautomatic pistols. With the AR 15 found in the truck of his mothers car which he drove to the school.

So before you go claiming this or that let the police do there jobs and figure the craziness out.

Lunk nailed it starts at home plain n simple.
I grow up in a big city in the rough part of town. Around everything bad you could imagine . I lost friends at a young age due to violence .
With everything stacked against me and my brothers growing up we still managed to grow up n living a good life.
Gun are not the problem people are.

In this day and age everyone believes they should have whatever they want n not have to work that hard to get it.
And when they can't get its someone else's fault.

To whoever said we don't need more heroes you sir are wrong
That's exactly what we need.

More people who stand up for the rights of others.
Society tells us to not intervene and call for help.
Well those kids and teachers didn't have TIME to WAIT.

It only takes one person to make a difference.
I would gladly lay down my life for another in mortal danger especially a child.
Imagine if it were your child,wife,mother,brother or father.
That could have saved had somebody found the courage in themselves to do what others were afraid to do. How would you feel.

Take a look around when a crime happens nobody does anything but wait for the cops.
If great men/women through out our history as a nation waited for someone else to help were would we be???

What if Abraham Lincoln ,Martin Luther King, Theodore Roosevelt ,Rosa Parks n Steve Jobs all waited for someone else??
But they didn't they did what it took at the time to make a difference.

Stand up for what you believe in
Protect the ones you love
Helps others in need

Stop standing behind spineless n greedy politicians. Who only care is money n their agenda.

Everything I have posted today has come from the live broadcast of the State Police press updates... live stream.

[alexISthrowed]

My heart goes out to the victims. The fact that there are people this fvcked in the world is disheartening. I don't think I'd want to bring a child into this world.

[DB1982]

Everything I have posted today has come from the live broadcast of the State Police press updates... live stream.

I understand that and what I heard came from my local news. So who right??
This story is not about the GUNS which are taking center stage with the medias agenda.
The story is about these innocent children and teachers who lost their life in a terrible tragedy. Not the guns or how many bullets he used.

[likelifting]

I understand that and what I heard came from my local news. So who right??
This story is not about the GUNS which are taking center stage with the medias agenda.
The story is about these innocent children and teachers who lost their life in a terrible tragedy. Not the guns or how many bullets he used.

Doesn't surprise me one bit.

[DB1982]

And another thing is the media should never mention this dirt bags name and give him the fame.
Most of these crazies do this stuff for the fame and their name will be known forever.
Stop it don't even mention him bury his name along with his body.

[JD250]

Knives are evil too!!!!!


22 kids, 1 adult injured in knife attack outside Chinese school

Published December 14, 2012

Associated Press

BEIJING – A knife-wielding man injured 22 children and one adult outside a primary school in central China as students were arriving for morning classes Friday, police said, the latest in a series of periodic rampage attacks at schools and kindergartens.

The attack in the Henan province village of Chengping happened shortly before 8 a.m., said a police officer from Guangshan county, where the village is located.

The attacker, 36-year-old villager Min Yingjun, is now in police custody, said the officer, who declined to give her name, as is customary among Chinese civil servants.

A Guangshan county hospital administrator said the man first attacked an elderly woman, then students, before being subdued by security guards who have been posted across China following a spate of school attacks in recent years. He said there were no deaths among the nine students admitted, although two badly injured children had been transferred to better-equipped hospitals outside the county.

A doctor at Guangshan's hospital of traditional Chinese medicine said that seven students had been admitted, but that none were seriously injured.

Neither the hospital administrator nor the doctor would give his name.

It was not clear how old the injured children were, but Chinese primary school pupils are generally 6-11 years old.

A notice posted on the Guangshan county government's website confirmed the number of injured and said an emergency response team had been set up to investigate the attacks.

No motive was given for the stabbings, which echo a string of similar assaults against schoolchildren in 2010 that killed nearly 20 and wounded more than 50. The most recent such attack took place in August, when a knife-wielding man broke into a middle school in the southern city of Nanchang and stabbed two students before fleeing.

Most of the attackers have been mentally disturbed men involved in personal disputes or unable to adjust to the rapid pace of social change, underscoring grave weaknesses in the antiquated Chinese medical system's ability to diagnose and treat psychiatric illness.

In one of the worst incidents, a man described as an unemployed, middle-aged doctor killed eight children with a knife in March 2010 to vent his anger over a thwarted romantic relationsh

[gixxerboy1]

^^^ i saw that, but atleast it was 23 injured instead of dead. If he had a gun they probably wouldnt be alive.

[MuscleInk]

Shooting last night at Excalibur casino in Las Vegas. Murder-suicide.

[lovbyts]

Some of you may not agree with this but I think it's a good place to start, just like it's about family.

[thegodfather]

I've not seen a thread with so much mindless drivel in quite a while, filled with speculation, anecdotal evidence (which counts for nothing, by the way), and Monday morning quarterbacking at its worst.

1.These sorts of situations are extremely tragic, and rather then simply mourning the horrific loss of life, the news organizations use it as a method to sensationalize it to the enth degree, putting up "up to date details," such as bodies being shot 'multiple times,' as if that is somehow relevant news to the public, which helps in ANY WAY to inform the public of the goings on at the tragedy.

2.Then, even more disheartening, is the interest groups who use these incidences as a catalyst and platform to advance their political agendas, almost as if they are sitting around the office laying in wait for a horrific tragedy involving guns to occur.

3.Add onto that the people who chime into these arguments with nothing but emotions and bits of information that they have picked up through Google searches which they then try to pass off as undeniable "FACTS," in order to strengthen their emotional arguments.

All I'm going to ask if that everyone here refrain from doing any of the 3 aforementioned activities during this tragedy, and if you happen to have an issue with which you'd like to start an educated dialogue, feel free to do so, but do not do it on the backs of the lives of 26 innocent slain people (regardless of the tool with which they were slain). We abhor that these things happen in our country, but we also need realize that we do not have a monopoly on tragedies, thousands are being killed in the crossfire across our boarder in Mexico, thousands of innocents are being killed by guns, bombs, landmines, and artillery in Syria. Thousands more are being killed by the lack of potable water, food, or medicine, in conflict zones around the world. What makes these human beings different from the 26 at the school in CT? Nothing, they are all human beings, and they are all deserving of our prayers and mourning. As a Christian I abhor all innocent death, we should pray for all of these people. Some view the death of a Muslim, or a "This," or a "That," as a lesser death, but that is not what we are taught in the bible, we regard life equally. You may choose a different belief system, I'm not here to advance a religious cause either. I am simply advancing a humanistic cause. We should mourn these losses because they are fellow human beings, they are someones son, daughter, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, father, mother, cousin, wife, or husband. We should EMPATHIZE with those humans who are suffering such horrific losses. We should EMPATHIZE with these people, and we should do so WITHOUT politicizing, quarterbacking, or attempting to advance our own personal agendas during these tragedies.


That's all I ask from you guys. I won't destroy the anti-gun liberal arguments being advanced here, or refute many of the "facts," or engage in arguments over the Monday morning quarterbacking which has no place in these incidences. Please, if you're religious, pray for the victims and the families of those affected by this tragedy. If you're not religious, then simply empathize with those who have been affected by this horrific incident. And regardless of whether you are religious, secular, or what have you, please, I beg of you, refrain from speculation and arguing over a tragedy such as this. I believe our community as a whole can be better than this, and rise above the sensationalism and exploitation, and SIMPLY mourn for these people.

TGF

[lovbyts]

^^^ agreed. Thats pretty much why I stayed out of it for 2 days. At least the 1st day or 2 should have only focused on the loos and empathy for the parents/relatives instead of politics as tempting as it is.

[Armykid93]

Some of you may not agree with this but I think it's a good place to start, just like it's about family.
<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=130605"/>

I love it. Very true.

[gixxerboy1]

Some of you may not agree with this but I think it's a good place to start, just like it's about family.

not to disrespect you, and granted this pic isnt sensitive, but to me the God argument is as good as we should give the kids umbrella's. they could open and hide behind the umbrella for safety. I dont want to turn this into a god or religion thread. But for some of us that solution is a joke

[Flagg]

not to disrespect you, and granted this pic isnt sensitive, but to me the God argument is as good as we should give the kids umbrella's. they could open and hide behind the umbrella for safety. I dont want to turn this into a god or religion thread. But for some of us that solution is a joke

I wish there was an option to 'like' posts on this site.

Who knew that the reason for social degredation and random shootings is because people are starting to not believe in God any more.

[jasc]

I've not seen a thread with so much mindless drivel in quite a while, filled with speculation, anecdotal evidence (which counts for nothing, by the way), and Monday morning quarterbacking at its worst.

1.These sorts of situations are extremely tragic, and rather then simply mourning the horrific loss of life, the news organizations use it as a method to sensationalize it to the enth degree, putting up "up to date details," such as bodies being shot 'multiple times,' as if that is somehow relevant news to the public, which helps in ANY WAY to inform the public of the goings on at the tragedy.

2.Then, even more disheartening, is the interest groups who use these incidences as a catalyst and platform to advance their political agendas, almost as if they are sitting around the office laying in wait for a horrific tragedy involving guns to occur.

3.Add onto that the people who chime into these arguments with nothing but emotions and bits of information that they have picked up through Google searches which they then try to pass off as undeniable "FACTS," in order to strengthen their emotional arguments.

All I'm going to ask if that everyone here refrain from doing any of the 3 aforementioned activities during this tragedy, and if you happen to have an issue with which you'd like to start an educated dialogue, feel free to do so, but do not do it on the backs of the lives of 26 innocent slain people (regardless of the tool with which they were slain). We abhor that these things happen in our country, but we also need realize that we do not have a monopoly on tragedies, thousands are being killed in the crossfire across our boarder in Mexico, thousands of innocents are being killed by guns, bombs, landmines, and artillery in Syria. Thousands more are being killed by the lack of potable water, food, or medicine, in conflict zones around the world. What makes these human beings different from the 26 at the school in CT? Nothing, they are all human beings, and they are all deserving of our prayers and mourning. As a Christian I abhor all innocent death, we should pray for all of these people. Some view the death of a Muslim, or a "This," or a "That," as a lesser death, but that is not what we are taught in the bible, we regard life equally. You may choose a different belief system, I'm not here to advance a religious cause either. I am simply advancing a humanistic cause. We should mourn these losses because they are fellow human beings, they are someones son, daughter, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, father, mother, cousin, wife, or husband. We should EMPATHIZE with those humans who are suffering such horrific losses. We should EMPATHIZE with these people, and we should do so WITHOUT politicizing, quarterbacking, or attempting to advance our own personal agendas during these tragedies.

That's all I ask from you guys. I won't destroy the anti-gun liberal arguments being advanced here, or refute many of the "facts," or engage in arguments over the Monday morning quarterbacking which has no place in these incidences. Please, if you're religious, pray for the victims and the families of those affected by this tragedy. If you're not religious, then simply empathize with those who have been affected by this horrific incident. And regardless of whether you are religious, secular, or what have you, please, I beg of you, refrain from speculation and arguing over a tragedy such as this. I believe our community as a whole can be better than this, and rise above the sensationalism and exploitation, and SIMPLY mourn for these people.

TGF

excellent post

[RaginCajun]

i sat next to the cutest 5 year old little girl yesterday on a plane and it just breaks my heart knowing someone would even fathom doing something like that. so sad right before the holidays