What have I done

[Lunk1]

yeah, seems you were taking it lightly back then and even encouraged it. Jokingly or not, if you're so passionate about the topic you wouldn't do that.

Its one thing to think about something...a whole other thing to act on it. While I may have injected light humor in the situation...one would be blind or trying to find something that wasn't there, to read encouragement into my posts.

Instead of critiquing each of my posts and continuing to make this thread about your personal issue with me. Perhaps it would be better to take some of your own direction and take it to PM or one on one! Just a suggestion of course...not a demand.

[austinite]

Its one thing to think about something...a whole other thing to act on it. While I may have injected light humor in the situation...one would be blind or trying to find something that wasn't there, to read encouragement into my posts.

Instead of critiquing each of my posts and continuing to make this thread about your personal issue with me. Perhaps it would be better to take some of your own direction and take it to PM or one on one! Just a suggestion of course...not a demand.

I've replied to everyone. Stop crying. I'm just pointing out what a hypocrite you are, like I did with others. You can PM me whenever you want, and I cannot start anything in the one on one, you'd never see it, for whatever reason you feel the need to....

[SexySweetheart]

Extremely unlikely and most likely not even possible. The courts would have to find a person to be a complete piece of sh^t before they will take away all custody rights. Steriods are to better oneself not mind altering. What kitstreasure said and what you are agreeing with is complete BS. Not sure what fantasy land your living in but your not taking away a Dad's rights to see his son because he injects steroids . No reason for her to try scaring OP like that. Pisses me off.

I had an ex tell me I would never get custody rights and I would be paying 900/month child support. I was dumb to believe her like OP would be dumb to believe you two. I got joint custody and low child support. Taking AAS would be mild compared to what I have done and is on my record. Women need to quit trying to scare Fathers out there. It is just cruel.

sorry you feel this is true, the families I work with on behalf of the state, that have their kids taken to states care ~ would disagree and probably the men incaserated that my husband guards would also disagree ~ but hay what do i know lmfao

[Lunk1]

I've replied to everyone. Stop crying. I'm just pointing out what a hypocrite you are, like I did with others. You can PM me whenever you want, and I cannot start anything in the one on one, you'd never see it, for whatever reason you feel the need to....

I understand how one on one works friend. Perhaps I should have clarified and said I will start a thread there (if you like).
I understand why you REALLY feal me to be such a hypocrite. Seems like your the only one that cant seem to get over it. Who's judgmental?

Funny even Samson seems to have less issue with my post than you...

[austinite]

I understand how one on one works friend. Perhaps I should have clarified and said I will start a thread there (if you like).
I understand why you REALLY feal me to be such a hypocrite. Seems like your the only one that cant seem to get over it. Who's judgmental?

Funny even Samson seems to have less issue with my post than you...

lol, I'm merely following up on the garbage you spew, no different than anyone else. I have no reason to communicate with you privately, but like I said, if you feel the need to, you're more than welcome to. Door is open as always.

[Times Roman]

are we still playing nice?

[Lunk1]

lol, I'm merely following up on the garbage you spew, no different than anyone else. I have no reason to communicate with you privately, but like I said, if you feel the need to, you're more than welcome to. Door is open as always.

Are you always so passive aggressive in real life too?

[austinite]

Are you always so passive aggressive in real life too?

Cute. I think I've made it very clear that I am far from passive

[Rwy]

If I were to cheat on my gf soon to be fiancee it would be for something she would not be down to do like say

ass to mouth lol


You are supposed to get your tally count up while you are young and single!!!

[Times Roman]

^I don't think women you love necessarily need to mimic everything you see in a porn video

If she's down for that sort of thing, then congrats (I guess)

[Rwy]

it was just a joke

if I tried putting anything near my gf's ass it would probably mean the end of my life

[austinite]

^I don't think women you love necessarily need to mimic everything you see in a porn video

If she's down for that sort of thing, then congrats (I guess)

lmao!

[Live for the PUMP]

sorry you feel this is true, the families I work with on behalf of the state, that have their kids taken to states care ~ would disagree and probably the men incaserated that my husband guards would also disagree ~ but hay what do i know lmfao

Sounds like you don't know much! LMFAO! Dealing with the scum of our country and your husband working in a prison doesn't make you an expert. Your talking to a grown adult here not some gullible kid. Take your BS somewhere else.

P.S. Hay is for horses and peroids were meant to make sentences not commas. but hay, what do, i know,

[Live for the PUMP]

When it comes to custody law in my state and the several other states I've lived in, I know it very well. If she has documentation (his email) which will allow her to prove these things, then yes, she can do these things.

[SexySweetheart]

Sounds like you don't know much! LMFAO! Dealing with the scum of our country and your husband working in a prison doesn't make you an expert. Your talking to a grown adult here not some gullible kid. Take your BS somewhere else.

P.S. Hay is for horses and peroids were meant to make sentences not commas. but hay, what do, i know,

lol very true and im the first to admit im no expert or grammar professor ~ than again i never said i was.
I was merely pointing out that over 10 years experience in various state and court facets involving children and the state as well as drug and alcohol rehabilitation does provide me with the first hand knowledge and experience that what treasure stated is in fact not only possible but does in deed occur (regardless of your specific encounter or possible others you may know of). of course there are always exceptions to every thing;however, to disregard the real possibilities mentioned and slam tresure ... i imagine you can guess how i feel about that.

truth be told maybe it was scary for OP to hear that , along with much else said on his thread but he is a grown man that is facing grown man consequences and she listed several other possible consequences he should also give thought to.

We may feel roids ect. are unharmful and we may not see them as mind altering- but the law and common knowledge disagree and lump them in with illegal substances which are in fact punishable with jail time and the state becoming involved for child protection ~ agree or not, these case stick more than neglect cases and at times more than educational neglect cases.
so thats enough of that, if you still feel using illegal substances can not result in state and legal intervention... respond if you feel you must, but Im now bored of this so wont debate it any further.

"P.S. Hay is for horses and peroids were meant to make sentences not commas. but hay, what do, i know, "
yea this will be a great thing everyone can always dig on me cuz really this is just a roid forum- not work or class so I almost make a deliberate effort to NOT use correct sentence structure grammar or spelling cuz i truly cant care less

[Money Trees]

This thread has gone from relationship to Religion/WW2

[BluPhin]

This thread has gone from relationship to Religion/WW2

Now it's in the courthouse

[basketballfan22]

This thread has gone from relationship to Religion/WW2

LMAO! That made me laugh pretty hard.

[Times Roman]

Sounds like you don't know much! LMFAO! Dealing with the scum of our country and your husband working in a prison doesn't make you an expert. Your talking to a grown adult here not some gullible kid. Take your BS somewhere else.

P.S. Hay is for horses and peroids were meant to make sentences not commas. but hay, what do, i know,

steroids are prosecuted just like harder drugs, such as heroin, meth and cocaine.

If you get busted with steroids, it is typically a felony.

True, having a father's parental rights taken away is a difficult thing to do. But it becomes much easier if you have recently been busted for a felony, such as possession of a class three steroid .

Knowing this, your disgruntled spouse can set the stage for trouble. Say she knows where it's at, calls the cops, she gives them permission to enter the premise, finds your gear, and they take you away. Most certainly, your emphatic "not mine" will have little credibility after they do a blood test looking for class three steroids.

Now, be nice to the women and stop causing trouble. I think Sexy's work experience entitles her to have an educated opinion on the matter, don't you?

[< <Samson> >]

After the last incident I really realized how good I have it at home.

My girl is damn special to me, much more than my eX wife or any other female I have met.

So far, she really is accepting of this. But, I understand what kind of pressure I put her under. . . . But, she also understands who I am. I am not a very good guy and haven't been for a very long time. . . . But, none of this effected my household. Even this never came in contact with my home life. She knows this, but it makes me even worse in her eyes. . . .She is the only person who's opinion about myself really matters at this time since my son is still very little.

She knew I was bad, I always said it and meant it. She just didn't know how bad, I guess I didn't either.


The rest of these bull shit comments are just out of place. But, this is a hell of a juicy topic for every one to dissect.

[Lunk1]

I'll say this. Austin has made me rethink my post some (congrats for that). I want to be clear that my original post was not meant as a direct shot at you (Samson) as a person. I have no ill wishes towards Samson as a person. Only towards the act committed.

None of us are free from sin and definitely none of us are free from temptation. I have been tempted to stray over the years of my marriage just like most men (my opinion). I am glad that I have had the power to resist those temptations and as I have matured it has gotten much easier.

The issue at hand for me personally with this OP is that it wasn't the isolated case of "oops I made a one time mistake). It was repeated acts that were no doubt pre-meditated. We have seen threads from guys who have come here after "slipping" and wanted to discuss if and how to confess their deed. This was not the case. This was a case of someone being caught, who in all likelihood, had he not been caught, would have continued the course he was on.

Yes he feels remorse now and yes that's the normal progression. The issue is that given the fact his conscience didn't override his desire to cheat, the odds are in favor of repeated offenses in the future.

Samson...I actually do wish you luck. Not in this current relationship mind you but with yourself. I hope you find the strength to improve as a person, a partner (to whomever) and a father. Hopefully we ALL can find strength to improve.

[< <Samson> >]

The issue at hand for me personally with this OP is that it wasn't the isolated case of "oops I made a one time mistake). It was repeated acts that were no doubt pre-meditated. We have seen threads from guys who have come here after "slipping" and wanted to discuss if and how to confess their deed. This was not the case. This was a case of someone being caught, who in all likelihood, had he not been caught, would have continued the course he was on.

Yes sir, this make this a much more of special case. Compared to just a one time slip up. . . .

Samson...I actually do wish you luck. Not in this current relationship mind you but with yourself. I hope you find the strength to improve as a person, a partner (to whomever) and a father. Hopefully we ALL can find strength to improve.

I hear ya for sure, it already has. . . . I look back at this and just feel very dumb about what I did. But, I had my reasons I guess. . . I will not be like this any more. If I ever decide to live this kind of a lifestyle again, there is no need to bring someone completely unsuspecting down with me, not at all.


For some BS reason I just thought I couldn't live without both.


Oh life

[crazy mike]

Yes sir, this make this a much more of special case. Compared to just a one time slip up. . . .



I hear ya for sure, it already has. . . . I look back at this and just feel very dumb about what I did. But, I had my reasons I guess. . . I will not be like this any more. If I ever decide to live this kind of a lifestyle again, there is no need to bring someone completely unsuspecting down with me, not at all.


For some BS reason I just thought I couldn't live without both.


Oh life

Holy crapper, would you ever decide to live like this again...huh?...what? is there a thought of that.
Now much has been said and this thread got everyone all worked up. Just listen to you guys. Hmmm... For once I'm without words. ...now that's crazy, mike

[Rusty11]

This thread sucks.
The arguing between people sucks even more.

[RaginCajun]

I love boobies!

[< <Samson> >]

This thread sucks.
The arguing between people sucks even more.

Well said Rusty Trombone

[Java Man]

lmao, as if people stop doing bad things out of the goodness of their hearts. Most everyone stops because they're caught. lol. It's called a mother fuking wake up call. That's how people better themselves, regardless of the damage done along the way. That will take time and effort for everything to semi-heal. He is not a murderer, rapist, child molester and/or woman beater. Treating him like one just shows how barbaric your mindset is.

Some of you folks should move to Saudi Arabia, live where there is no Judge, just an Imam, ruling with an iron fist. You steal... you get your arm cut off, you cheat, you get stoned to death.

I hope none of you are Christians, because you're presenting everything that is against the religion. And if you ARE religious, I doubt your church would reject him. What would make you happy? Throwing him on an island and isolating him from the world? How far do you want to take your barbarism?

You suckers are no where near perfect, and some of the things YOU'VE done are looked at just as bad as you see this. Some of you are even known crooks for Gods sake.

I've got nothing against anyone who said anything negative and followed up with hoping that he becomes a better man from this. Those that slammed the "NO MERCY WHATSOEVER" judgment, I feel really sad for you and the people who surround you. Very sad.

I'll take that punishment! Where do I sign up?

[Java Man]

I really have nothing to add that no one else hasnt already said

However why in gods name would you keep proof around. I am pretty surprised you were able to live this double life for so long.

I'm not. She must have had true, blind trust until the signs became so obvious that it had to be acknowledged. Been on the receiving end of betrayal enough... The only person I trust that much now is myself and my daughter, whom I truly love unconditionally. This isn't about me I'm just making a point - Samson's woman has most likely lost her innocence. No matter how optimistic you try to be, betrayal by the one you trust most, one whom you could not imagine doing anything with malice against you, takes a piece of your soul with it.

[Java Man]

I love boobies!

Reported!

[Java Man]

Holy crapper, would you ever decide to live like this again...huh?...what? is there a thought of that.
Now much has been said and this thread got everyone all worked up. Just listen to you guys. Hmmm... For once I'm without words. ...now that's crazy, mike

Wow samson. Crazy mike is speechless. Now you've REALLY done it!

[< <Samson> >]

Here is my current issue, for the last 2 she has been too cool. I mean straight up cool, like nothing happened. . . I asked her WTF is up really, she says she does not think about it. < Is this possible?

No joke, no BS

[SexySweetheart]

Here is my current issue, for the last 2 she has been too cool. I mean straight up cool, like nothing happened. . . I asked her WTF is up really, she says she does not think about it. < Is this possible?

No joke, no BS

negitive

[ArmWrestler Dude]

Dude so sorry to hear this. I can only imagine what it's like with a child involved. You need to stay strong for your kid bro. That's all that matters. Not the lady. They come and go, as we all know.
Now on to my brutal honesty...
If she was spying your emails and then snuck your phone, entered your security password, and checked texts and pics, this girl didn't trust you anyways. There is NO RELATIONSHIP WITHOUT TRUST. I am also a very firm believer that relationship and marriage counseling are a joke. It's just to a dodge the pain of separation. Nothing more. My brother went through the same thing, but the other way around. Do you really think deep down that this girl who you've hurt so badly and cheated on so many times will ever forget that? Don't you realize she will think of all the other girls you were intimate with everytime you want to get in some sexy time?
In my humble opinion, best to let her go on a positive note (you said she's being really nice right now) and salvage the possibility to be in your kids life, maybe even get partial custody. Otherwise it'll be way to tense and kids pick up on that really easy. It will do more harm than good. Dont wanna be selfish when it comes to this. I know it hurts bro. Trust me I do.
Last brutal addition and then I'm done...
Dude if you were going out nailing chicks on the regular aNd only stopped because you got caught, then stay single. You obviously like to play. A large percentage of men do so don't be ashamed. We are all animals, afterall. Time will heal. Keep your head up bro. I'm sure you'll make the right choice. At the end of the day, you're the only one who knows what's best for you.

[< <Samson> >]

Dude so sorry to hear this. I can only imagine what it's like with a child involved. You need to stay strong for your kid bro. That's all that matters. Not the lady. They come and go, as we all know.
Now on to my brutal honesty...
If she was spying your emails and then snuck your phone, entered your security password, and checked texts and pics, this girl didn't trust you anyways. There is NO RELATIONSHIP WITHOUT TRUST. I am also a very firm believer that relationship and marriage counseling are a joke. It's just to a dodge the pain of separation. Nothing more. My brother went through the same thing, but the other way around. Do you really think deep down that this girl who you've hurt so badly and cheated on so many times will ever forget that? Don't you realize she will think of all the other girls you were intimate with everytime you want to get in some sexy time?
In my humble opinion, best to let her go on a positive note (you said she's being really nice right now) and salvage the possibility to be in your kids life, maybe even get partial custody. Otherwise it'll be way to tense and kids pick up on that really easy. It will do more harm than good. Dont wanna be selfish when it comes to this. I know it hurts bro. Trust me I do.
Last brutal addition and then I'm done...
Dude if you were going out nailing chicks on the regular aNd only stopped because you got caught, then stay single. You obviously like to play. A large percentage of men do so don't be ashamed. We are all animals, afterall. Time will heal. Keep your head up bro. I'm sure you'll make the right choice. At the end of the day, you're the only one who knows what's best for you.

Thank you for your reply. Up until now this is exactly how I felt. Girls come and go and no matter what I will be in my son's life. But, no - I don't want him to grow up in a broken home as a good 50% of kids live in now. 90% of my friends are like this, and it kind of empowered me to a point. But, fvck that shit. . . I believe in a stable solid home with a real mom and dad < of course which neither her or I grew up in.


Like I said, she is being amazingly cool about this and read damn near all of this thread. She brought me back to sanity as she is the only one that could. How I don't know

And of course she had reasons to suspect what I have been doing. I was never that perfect to cover my tracks, to tell you the truth I never even tried. That's why all of this shit was available for her to see.


I completely took my life for granted and just didn't think anything I did could affect it. As if course I see now, I was just being a complete selfish ass hole.

If this blows through and we work through all of this, she is one in a billion. How she is being with me so far, sure makes me believe that she is the one out of the billion.

I don't think I felt this deeply for anyone I was with since I was very young and got with my eX. Now, looking back - this girl is off the charts in every way compared to my first wife.

[crazy mike]

Thank you for your reply. Up until now this is exactly how I felt. Girls come and go and no matter what I will be in my son's life. But, no - I don't want him to grow up in a broken home as a good 50% of kids live in now. 90% of my friends are like this, and it kind of empowered me to a point. But, fvck that shit. . . I believe in a stable solid home with a real mom and dad < of course which neither her or I grew up in.

Like I said, she is being amazingly cool about this and read damn near all of this thread. She brought me back to sanity as she is the only one that could. How I don't know

And of course she had reasons to suspect what I have been doing. I was never that perfect to cover my tracks, to tell you the truth I never even tried. That's why all of this shit was available for her to see.


I completely took my life for granted and just didn't think anything I did could affect it. As if course I see now, I was just being a complete selfish ass hole.

If this blows through and we work through all of this, she is one in a billion. How she is being with me so far, sure makes me believe that she is the one out of the billion.

I don't think I felt this deeply for anyone I was with since I was very young and got with my eX. Now, looking back - this girl is off the charts in every way compared to my first wife.

[B]ONE DAY AT A TIME [/B], and when you start thinking further just bring yourself back to the moment because the now is all you have. "Yesterday is a canceled check and tomorrow is a promissory note" Slow and NO expectations and you will never be disappointed. ...crazy mike

[< <Samson> >]

ONE DAY AT A TIME [/B], and when you start thinking further just bring yourself back to the moment because the now is all you have. "Yesterday is a canceled check and tomorrow is a promissory note" Slow and NO expectations and you will never be disappointed. ...crazy mike

That was some wise shit sir. Very very well put

[gbrice75]

Sampson,

Sorry to hear about your situation. I haven't read the replies, but I can already imagine some people have bashed you, etc. I won't be partaking in that. I understand completely how these things seem to 'just happen' sometimes. I went through a similar situation almost 2 years ago, only a few months after my son was born which made that time in our lives very bittersweet. My selfish actions tainted what should have been a beautiful, wondrous time in our lives.

Now, you say you've been at this several times over the course of your relationship. Kind of a different animal from me, and honestly I think you need some help (no knock) - unless this experience has truly changed you, as mine did me.

Anyway, I just want you to know I empathize with you, and you're not alone. Things aren't the same between me and my wife; there is always this tension, even when things seem great. I can say though that we're much better, and every day things get a little stronger. There will be relapses (on her part), things that trigger her feelings, memories, etc. All you can do is hang in there, be a man, take responsibility for what you did and just pray and hope that your girl still sees some worth in your relationship. If for nothing else, your son.

My .02

[songdog]

I will tell you wats happening.A sh1t storm is brewing.So get ready the sh1t is going to hit the fan.Beacuse if there is one thing I know.A woman NEVER forgets.And she didnt just stop thinking about it.Beacuse if she can do that.I want some of wat shes taking.Circle the wagons the attack is coming!

[Live for the PUMP]

I will tell you wats happening.A sh1t storm is brewing.So get ready the sh1t is going to hit the fan.Beacuse if there is one thing I know.A woman NEVER forgets.And she didnt just stop thinking about it.Beacuse if she can do that.I want some of wat shes taking.Circle the wagons the attack is coming!

lmao. YA I was thinking that same thing when he said she has been quiet and peaceful. The storm is coming.

[Rusty11]

^^^lol...I was thinking the same thing. Gathering more evidence to really screw you over. Unless she's a rare woman who can forgive and forget. I'm sure you're smart enough to delete, erase, and shred everything.