Live for the moment - A teenage Zeus' bodybuilding journey

**hollowedzeus** · 08-26-2017, 05:22 AM

I like complaining more than i like painkillers haha. Not sure of it merits it yet. If it starts to affect falling alseep ill start on them.

Just muddle through these 2 months of it. Yet to feel anything other than headache

**hammerheart** · 08-26-2017, 06:22 AM

Some aspirin won't hurt.

**hollowedzeus** · 08-26-2017, 06:53 AM

My blood pressure is hanging a bit low. Is it safe to take? Dont want it to lower anymore

**hammerheart** · 08-26-2017, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by hollowedzeus

My blood pressure is hanging a bit low. Is it safe to take? Dont want it to lower anymore

**hollowedzeus** · 08-26-2017, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

**hollowedzeus** · 08-27-2017, 03:41 PM

awesome arm workout tonight. destroyed my muscles. really pushed it.

bp was pretty decent today 113/68

eating is gonna be pretty shit over the next couple of days. birthday so dinner and stuff. not bothered but family lol

**hammerheart** · 08-27-2017, 05:05 PM

It's ok to celebrate when your still 19 lol. It kind of loses meaning as you advance in age, at some point I guess you don't even want to acknowledge it.

How's the headache

**hollowedzeus** · 08-27-2017, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

It's ok to celebrate when your still 19 lol. It kind of loses meaning as you advance in age, at some point I guess you don't even want to acknowledge it.

How's the headache

Not a fan. I make a point of lying when it is or not telling people. Cant stand the fuss and attention... it isnt my bag at all. Just another day. But i guess on tuesday since ill be 19 i can definetly start taking steroids now since ill be stooped developing....

Headache has been missing today thankfully. Still no difference felt. Still skeptical of it.

From what ive read on other forums 25mg ed is even starting on the high side... expected much more.

Wish he just gave me nebido lol. I hope to god he doesnt offer me hcg mono next... he mentioned it....

Nebido + hcg would be fab.

Still doing a bit of prodding at my left nipple. Keeping an eye on it.

**hammerheart** · 08-27-2017, 05:21 PM

Get at least your TRT dialed in first lol.

I used to be like that. Now I spend birthdays just like any other day and get no wishes (I mean zero, literally).

Don't play with nips too much, there is a neuro-endocrine link between stimulation and prolactin secretion. That will make it worse.

**hollowedzeus** · 08-27-2017, 05:31 PM

Was only kidding about starting lol.

Any other guy my age would be out getting melted with his friends. Mm not me.

When is your birthday biz. Ill be sure to give you one. As infuriating as it is when i recieve them i like when others do

Thats spooky.. i dont want to start lactating...
Im not messing around with nolva. It will skew my bw and he wont be happy and wont give me nebido haah.

Doc asked me if i ever took any drugs. Then asked me if i ever took aas. He's a clever guy lol.

**hammerheart** · 08-27-2017, 05:37 PM

Not me. I was only asked if taking any anti-depressant or anti-psychotic.

You won't lactate out of the blue, I was but with prolactin being quite high.

I'm confident you will be given nebido next time, seven weeks more to go, it isn't that much.

B-day is very last day of Sept, turning 28 and still virgin lol lol lol

**hollowedzeus** · 08-27-2017, 05:51 PM

Interesting... was never asked. Because im a young guy i think he was more worried that i was gunning for legal gear.

He never got back to me with prolactin results so i guess they are fine.

I dont want to push him too much one direction or another. Im certain he doesnt want to be told off a 19 yr old what medication is the best... ive to email him after the bloods with the results and how i feel. Ill say something along the lines of 'if it would be agreeable with yourself, i would like to try nebido and hcg . Prior to my appointment my research.... blah blah... most suitable for my lifestyle and is proven to be most effective over long periods... blah blah'

Noted. Also its not a big deal. At least i tell myself that:/...

Its only an issue if you think its an issue. If it is you could go sort it easily mate. Make sure the girls can smell the test

Hope youre doing alright biz

**hollowedzeus** · 08-28-2017, 04:11 PM

Arms are sore as fuck today. Hit them really hard yesterday.... very low volume very high intensity. Love it.
French press is fast becoming one of my favourite exercises.

Shoulders tomorrow. Supposed to be legs but cmon im not training legs lol

**Obs** · 08-28-2017, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by hollowedzeus

Arms are sore as fuck today. Hit them really hard yesterday.... very low volume very high intensity. Love it.
French press is fast becoming one of my favourite exercises.

Shoulders tomorrow. Supposed to be legs but cmon im not training legs lol

Just for saying that you have to do two leg routines, one a.m. one p.m.

**hollowedzeus** · 08-29-2017, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke

Just for saying that you have to do two leg routines, one a.m. one p.m.

Haha jokes on you. I never went at all!

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**DHew** · 08-29-2017, 04:16 PM

MYbe I missed something, but how are you getting gyno at your age?

**hammerheart** · 08-29-2017, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by DHew

MYbe I missed something, but how are you getting gyno at your age?

Hit page 4.

How your doing today zeus?

**hollowedzeus** · 08-29-2017, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by DHew

MYbe I missed something, but how are you getting gyno at your age?

I hope it isnt gyno. Ive never touched any anabolics so bizarros theory of lack of androgen activity at breat tissue sounds about right.

Been on clomid for a week. Expecting a nice little booby flair up any day now

**hollowedzeus** · 08-29-2017, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

Hit page 4.

How your doing today zeus?

Not bad mate thanks. Ate some amount of shite today though. Headaches have yet to return so thats good. Apart from that no further changes

How you getting on? Weather still killing you? The nights are lovely here right now. Getting dark around 8pm now. Its a nice drive home most nights

**hammerheart** · 08-29-2017, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by hollowedzeus

Not bad mate thanks. Ate some amount of shite today though. Headaches have yet to return so thats good. Apart from that no further changes

How you getting on? Weather still killing you? The nights are lovely here right now. Getting dark around 8pm now. Its a nice drive home most nights

Another heatwave hit last week, it made me feel quite lousy but it's leaving already, storms approaching next week. Everything is good. I'm already feeling less aromatization by skin from loosing weight and exercising a bit. I'm down to 78kg.

The day other I applied some testogel on the scrotum and the boost in DHT made me quite vascular for a day or two, lot of 5-AR there.

**hollowedzeus** · 08-29-2017, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

Another heatwave hit last week, it made me feel quite lousy but it's leaving already, storms approaching next week. Everything is good. I'm already feeling less aromatization by skin from loosing weight and exercising a bit. I'm down to 78kg.

The day other I applied some testogel on the scrotum and the boost in DHT made me quite vascular for a day or two, lot of 5-AR there.

Awesome. Glad its settling down a little. You still hitting the gym fairly regularly? Keep the muscle up while your losing the fat. Im probably 10kg heavier than you atm after todays binge.

I can only dream of your little experiment there. Talc doesnt quite have the same euphoria unfortunatly....

Swimming is a nice way to cool down btw. If you have any local baths close. Get some decent cardio and mobility work and a bit of a relax some days perhaps.

Also let my clomid disolve a bit on my tongue tonight. Forgot it wasnt b12. Tongue is a bit numb at the end. Bizzarre.

**hammerheart** · 08-29-2017, 05:41 PM

Just doing anything body weight atm, not sure if I'm returning to a proper gym but I'm upgrading what I have at home.

It isn't euphoria, DHT makes me feel more relaxed and laid back if anything, and provides a solid boost in NO as well. Lowers my BP and HR too (which isn't anywhere bad btw). I still need to tune up TRT and apply the daily micro-dosing of AI concept.

You wouldn't believe what I live near to... the Adriatic sea is a few minutes away from home. Never liked swimming though.

**hammerheart** · 08-29-2017, 05:43 PM

Post #3000 lol. What do I put on title... ideas welcome.

**hollowedzeus** · 08-29-2017, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

Just doing anything body weight atm, not sure if I'm returning to a proper gym but I'm upgrading what I have at home.

It isn't euphoria, DHT makes me feel more relaxed and laid back if anything, and provides a solid boost in NO as well. Lowers my BP and HR too (which isn't anywhere bad btw). I still need to tune up TRT and apply the daily micro-dosing of AI concept.

You wouldn't believe what I live near to... the Adriatic sea is a few minutes away from home. Never liked swimming though.

Nice, cant go wrong with a chin up bar and a set of parallel bars.

I recall you saying it was but i may be wrong. Awesome either way i guess. Let me know how you get on with your ai scheme... still would say stay away from pure alcohol though. Be safe.

Yeah i guessed that... but come on.. sharks. Theres not much that terrifies me. But the sea. Nah. Feel ill thinking about being near the fucker. Megalodon still lives. I guess a good old cold bath will have to do the trick to cool ye then.

'AR's potato eater, duh...'

**hammerheart** · 08-30-2017, 03:19 AM

I already own a pull/chin up bar. Parallelels... a pair of chairs does the job lol. No seriously I've never been a huge fan of isolation machines. Enough free weights to play with and a rack plus an incline bench is all I felt I'd ever need. And that damn pull up bar of course.

AR's spaghetti man would be more appropriate lol

**hollowedzeus** · 08-30-2017, 07:25 AM

Got everything you need then. What else you looking to get like?

Already pulled a funny on spaghetti through pm didnt want you to think im some white trash racist lol

**hammerheart** · 08-30-2017, 08:31 AM

Nah it was quite funny and fitting the stereotype.

4x20kg plates and I'd be golden. I used to deadlift 130kg max rep at 65kg bw before TRT era, I want to do that again, over time of course.

Found some old chap in my town selling a bunch of rusty plates but their 5 and 10, plus 4x dumbbell bars, might grab the whole as well if I get a reasonable bargain.

**hollowedzeus** · 08-30-2017, 11:57 AM

Youll achieve anything you put your mind to mate. Should be a piece of piss at a higher bw with trt.

Give him a cheeky offer and see what happens. He might be desperate to shift the kit.

**hollowedzeus** · 08-30-2017, 03:55 PM

There's nothing like raising your tesosterone naturally eh boys?
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**hollowedzeus** · 08-31-2017, 07:27 AM

Not going great today. Hope i manage the gym after work if i dont explode or curl into a ball in the corner.

Havent decided which one i prefer yet.

**cousinmuscles** · 08-31-2017, 08:27 AM

Why's that?

**hollowedzeus** · 08-31-2017, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by rnsplg

Why's that?

I dont think i have a reason unfortunately. I shouldnt be stressed and nothing has changed. If anything, today was a more relaxed day at work.

Bit more relaxed now but earlier on everything was loud, everyone was there, everyone asking whats up with me. Must of had a cloud hanging over me or something.

Felt the same yesterday but i crashed really hard off EC around 2pm yesterday and that put a bad tone on the rest of the day.

**hollowedzeus** · 08-31-2017, 10:51 AM

Sometimes i just need a slap to be honest

**cousinmuscles** · 08-31-2017, 02:28 PM

I never liked ephedrine. Got too pumped up sometimes and I risk doing bad form with heavy weights etc. Other times it just made me nervous as hell. Also depended on the batch. It's better not to rely so much on cns stimulants. I work 12 hours under stress and its very physically demanding, and take maybe 1 day off per month. I'd crash really hard if I relied on stims

**hollowedzeus** · 09-01-2017, 05:22 AM

I love ephedrine. It feel like a really smooth stim. If i could i would have it twice a day everyday. I feel like a better person on it lol. No anxiety very chatty. But i hate being dependent on things (good one coming from someone started trt i know). So i dont think i want to use it too much. I had a really bad sleep and needed woke up so i had EC before work and it ran out around 5 hours later. I decided not to redose the caffeine.

Every other stim gives me nerves but not this one suprisingly. Ive yet to try clenbuterol but id imagine the anxiety on tht would be bad

**Gallowmere** · 09-01-2017, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by hollowedzeus

I love ephedrine. It feel like a really smooth stim. If i could i would have it twice a day everyday. I feel like a better person on it lol. No anxiety very chatty. But i hate being dependent on things (good one coming from someone started trt i know). So i dont think i want to use it too much. I had a really bad sleep and needed woke up so i had EC before work and it ran out around 5 hours later. I decided not to redose the caffeine.

Every other stim gives me nerves but not this one suprisingly. Ive yet to try clenbuterol but id imagine the anxiety on tht would be bad

If there were only one thing out there that I would call borderline witchcraft, it's EC. I've found nothing else in the world like it, when it comes to cutting. Water weight falls off, weight on the bar stays up, energy is absurd, no crashes, and the thermo effect is nice.

The only downside is that damned transient enlarged prostate from constant use.

**hammerheart** · 09-01-2017, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by hollowedzeus

I love ephedrine. It feel like a really smooth stim. If i could i would have it twice a day everyday. I feel like a better person on it lol. No anxiety very chatty. But i hate being dependent on things (good one coming from someone started trt i know). So i dont think i want to use it too much. I had a really bad sleep and needed woke up so i had EC before work and it ran out around 5 hours later. I decided not to redose the caffeine.

Every other stim gives me nerves but not this one suprisingly. Ive yet to try clenbuterol but id imagine the anxiety on tht would be bad

I must try ephedrine at some point this winter, it's sounds like a nice thing to have hidden in the closet, when caffeine doesn't cut it.

**hollowedzeus** · 09-01-2017, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by bizzarro

I must try ephedrine at some point this winter, it's sounds like a nice thing to have hidden in the closet, when caffeine doesn't cut it.

Its super nice. If there was no repercussions i wouldnt come off. 25mg e 200mg c is heaven.

I got bronkaid off ebay. Just chanced it. Its expensive as fuck outside US. found a few sites selling hcl but didnt know if They had a good rep.

Originally Posted by Gallowmere

If there were only one thing out there that I would call borderline witchcraft, it's EC. I've found nothing else in the world like it, when it comes to cutting. Water weight falls off, weight on the bar stays up, energy is absurd, no crashes, and the thermo effect is nice.

The only downside is that damned transient enlarged prostate from constant use.

I would hate to feel the withdrawrl after a long spell of it. I didnt know about its effect on the prostate. Thats interesting. Defintely something to research.

Thanks mate

**hollowedzeus** · 09-01-2017, 08:46 AM

Ephedrine is 1000x better than the clomid im on the now lol

**Gallowmere** · 09-01-2017, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by hollowedzeus

Its super nice. If there was no repercussions i wouldnt come off. 25mg e 200mg c is heaven.

I got bronkaid off ebay. Just chanced it. Its expensive as fuck outside US. found a few sites selling hcl but didnt know if They had a good rep.

I would hate to feel the withdrawrl after a long spell of it. I didnt know about its effect on the prostate. Thats interesting. Defintely something to research.

Thanks mate

Honestly, I had no withdrawal symptoms, other than water weight coming back on relatively quickly. The longest that I ran it was about four months straight of 25/200 E/C 4x/day though.