Live for the moment - A teenage Zeus' bodybuilding journey

[hammerheart]

Youd be surprised. It doesnt look like it in pictures but ive got alot of gyno looking fat at the nipple. But most od my fat is stomach and back fortunatly. But u suspect the stomach fat will go before the back fat. That will look strange...

Still prodding at my left nipple. Not 100% convinced....

Leave your nipple alone... I'm keeping track via photos and there appears to be some improvement, though I'm wondering if any residual gyno structure is ever going away with time, but upping Test seems to be doing its part, looking forward to batch my own DHT gel to rub locally, I'll look like a man one day lol.

[hollowedzeus]

Leave your nipple alone... I'm keeping track via photos and there appears to be some improvement, though I'm wondering if any residual gyno structure is ever going away with time, but upping Test seems to be doing its part, looking forward to batch my own DHT gel to rub locally, I'll look like a man one day lol.

Did you really just tell me not to touch my nipple lol.

Ive read that serms and ai can only shrink gyno that its impossible to remove without surgery. So in essence its an empty lump waiting to be filled with estrogen to flair up again

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[hollowedzeus]

Dht sounds expensive to produce lol

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[hammerheart]

Started a pullback this week. Legs done tonight. Also got 50 mins of cardio thrown in.

Tried paused squats for a change. Enjoyed them.

Work then home to eat

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You also tried DY deadlift variant? Deads have always been my fav but I like them much more done that way.

[tarmyg]

But u suspect the stomach fat will go before the back fat. That will look strange...

This is my experience also. A few weeks ago before I started eating like crazy my six pack was very visible but the lower back fat was still there. It's crazy to get rid of that, I think anyways, never had the patience to diet for that long.

[hammerheart]

Did you really just tell me not to touch my nipple lol.

Ive read that serms and ai can only shrink gyno that its impossible to remove without surgery. So in essence its an empty lump waiting to be filled with estrogen to flair up again

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Yes, that's what if feels like, lumps might have faded but softer tissues appears to be still there. I'm never going with SERMs and there is no need to surgery either at this stage.

I believe I already explained why you need not to play with your nipples, it goes to centrally stimulate prolactin secretion..

It costs much more to have it shipped overseas really, raw is only at $2 per gram.

[hollowedzeus]

You also tried DY deadlift variant? Deads have always been my fav but I like them much more done that way.

Yes gave them a go last back session on others reccomendations. Went pretty light at 90kg. Felt alot of strain on my arse muscles not letting it touch the floor. I will add it in to the coming back days and see how i progress. Ive never liked deadlifting.
It just seems like an injury waiting to happen.

170kg is my maximum pull for a couple of reps conventionally.

I definetly prefer pressing movements. Nothing beats a good ole dumbell shoulder press

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[hollowedzeus]

This is my experience also. A few weeks ago before I started eating like crazy my six pack was very visible but the lower back fat was still there. It's crazy to get rid of that, I think anyways, never had the patience to diet for that long.

Does it look as mental as i think it does? Id rather it went away at the same time but genetics i guess. Im probably 10kg of fat away from a 6 pack. I dont have to worry about that this cut

You eating well above maintenance while youre recovering?

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[hollowedzeus]

Yes, that's what if feels like, lumps might have faded but softer tissues appears to be still there. I'm never going with SERMs and there is no need to surgery either at this stage.

I believe I already explained why you need not to play with your nipples, it goes to centrally stimulate prolactin secretion..

It costs much more to have it shipped overseas really, raw is only at $2 per gram.

Yes you have explained. But its like an itch.

I caught myself in my car this morning checking. Kind of stuck inbetween right now. If i wasnt in the middle of getting trt id probably start nolva for some weeks. But i dont want to skew bloods and give any reason not to progress to another form of treatment.

Thats not too bad. Im sure you will have some fun with that when you get it. Be sure and send me some. Could be doing with some facial hair

[tarmyg]

You eating well above maintenance while youre recovering?

Yes, easily 15% body fat right now.

[hollowedzeus]

Decided to have a day of total rest. Triceps are still sore to the touch from a few days ago.

Going to see the it remake tonight. Should be good

[hollowedzeus]

Possible spending a couple of nights over at that girl from works house next week. We will see what happens.

Will be superdosing cialis before i go for sure

[hollowedzeus]

Losing fat but not weight. Strange one.

Clomid at work? Who knows

[hammerheart]

Yes gave them a go last back session on others reccomendations. Went pretty light at 90kg. Felt alot of strain on my arse muscles not letting it touch the floor. I will add it in to the coming back days and see how i progress. Ive never liked deadlifting.
It just seems like an injury waiting to happen.

170kg is my maximum pull for a couple of reps conventionally.

I definetly prefer pressing movements. Nothing beats a good ole dumbell shoulder press

170kg is not bad at all mate

Yes you have explained. But its like an itch.

I caught myself in my car this morning checking. Kind of stuck inbetween right now. If i wasnt in the middle of getting trt id probably start nolva for some weeks. But i dont want to skew bloods and give any reason not to progress to another form of treatment.

Thats not too bad. Im sure you will have some fun with that when you get it. Be sure and send me some. Could be doing with some facial hair

I'm sure your beard will grow like man's once you get your T up, DHT can be quite deleterious for prostate and hair health but lol my PSA even lowered with TRT, beware I'm crazy when it comes to experimenting don't follow me down that route

Possible spending a couple of nights over at that girl from works house next week. We will see what happens.

Will be superdosing cialis before i go for sure

That' s amazing news hoping everything pans out for the best and you can have some good time with the chick.

I could of used some of your ephedrine today catch a cold and couldn't sleep from congested sinuses , made an aerosol (a small home appliance vapourizing liquid with meds in it) instead, feeling much better atm.

[hollowedzeus]

I gathered that you went against the grain when it came to results lol. Just means youre special is all

Yeah i hope so too. Time will tell.

Sounds high tech making your own vape kit lol. I assume youve been prescribed everything in it?
Glad to hear it. Hows the plates coming along?

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[hammerheart]

Ofc it's prescribed stuff there was a B2 agonist in it (salmeterol) and I'm feeling quite anxious from it though fresher in mind.

[hollowedzeus]

Ofc it's prescribed stuff there was a B2 agonist in it (salmeterol) and I'm feeling quite anxious from it though fresher in mind.

Oh right i see. Theres no getting rid of the anxiety that accompanies stims from my experience. Just need to ride it out and remember the reason you have it is because of a drug and nothing else.

Ephedrine made me feel like superman for a couple of days then that effect dropped unfortunatly. Still good but not good when you drop it

[hammerheart]

Oh right i see. Theres no getting rid of the anxiety that accompanies stims from my experience. Just need to ride it out and remember the reason you have it is because of a drug and nothing else.

Ephedrine made me feel like superman for a couple of days then that effect dropped unfortunatly. Still good but not good when you drop it

Thing is I'm quite borderline with the thyroid meds so any stim on top of those is likely to trigger sides, not having any tremors btw but strength is down.

Well I know something that work, but you know, other drugs.

[hollowedzeus]

Went out on a date tonight. Went well

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[hollowedzeus]

I am beyond exhausted. Was going cross eyed driving home late last night.
Head wasnt into training yesterday either. I need a full 48 hours of sleep or something. Functionality is reduced by quite a bit right now.

[hammerheart]

It's Sunday, eat and have a good rest.

[hollowedzeus]

It's Sunday, eat and have a good rest.

Ive been force feeding myself the past couple of days. Still gonna bump yhe calories up tonight when im home from work. I absolutely cant face the gym tonight, nor cardio.

This is a sit back with a glass of milk kind of night

[hollowedzeus]

Scrap that. Did a u turn, popped 200mg caffeine, did chest tris and an hour of cardio. Feel awesome.

Was just being lazy. Srry guys.

Lets get that beach body

[tarmyg]

Not sure I am following this correctly. Are you currently cutting, maintaining, or bulking?

[hollowedzeus]

Not sure I am following this correctly. Are you currently cutting, maintaining, or bulking?

I am cutting at the moment however i am struggling immensly to get my 2300 kcal in for the last few days. Im having to stop meals and go back to them an hour later cold.

The urge to throw it all back up is almost irresistable haha.

[hollowedzeus]

In all seriousness, i love to shit on the clomid but i suspect me testosterone levels will be at the top end of the range along with e2. For whatever reason i am maintaining weight and losing fat.
Issue is body composition was never the issue. Mental and other physical symptoms remain as prevelent as ever.

[hollowedzeus]

Diet pretty shit. Missed a meal. Gonna have peanut butter and jam to make up the calories and also getting a takeaway tomorrow night.

Cant win them all

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[hollowedzeus]

Running on fumes today. Woke up and instantly my body is screaming for sleep. I told muself id nap before going out later but ill probably smash some stims and go do legs. Training has been taking too much of a back burner.

[hollowedzeus]

Embarrassed maself a wee bit last night. Too scared of running out of cialis n never took any.
Bastard.

[marcus300]

Embarrassed maself a wee bit last night. Too scared of running out of cialis n never took any.
Bastard.

Do you need Cialis to perform sexually?

[hollowedzeus]

Do you need Cialis to perform sexually?

Without cialis i cant maintain or even achieve an erection sometimes.

Its yet to be put to the test in a real lifr scenario lol but i am 99 percent sure it temporarily solves the issue.

People will say its nerves. Might be an element but functionality is near 0.

Felt like she was a little hurt lol. That she was the issue. Shes too nice.

[marcus300]

Without cialis i cant maintain or even achieve an erection sometimes.

Its yet to be put to the test in a real lifr scenario lol but i am 99 percent sure it temporarily solves the issue.

People will say its nerves. Might be an element but functionality is near 0.

Felt like she was a little hurt lol. That she was the issue. Shes too nice.

Fuking hell that's bad news zues, I hope you get down the road further to TRT soon than later. A lot of the time it can be in your head regarding sexual function though. Maybe talking it out with her beforehand might help with the anxiety at that special moment but this depends how close you are

[hollowedzeus]

Fuking hell that's bad news zues, I hope you get down the road further to TRT soon than later. A lot of the time it can be in your head regarding sexual function though. Maybe talking it out with her beforehand might help with the anxiety at that special moment but this depends how close you are

I dont know if it was the right thing to do but we have been very close friends for months. This bullshit that im in the middle of was the only thing holding me back from her.

I told her before hand.. a couple of weeks ago. She understood and was dead cool. And she was dead cool after it too.

We were pretty much on the same page but like thats a strikeout.
Too much information n that but since i was 15/16 snything that should merit a response didnt really or occasionally did weakly. Kissing grinding whatever. She was on top of me last night and its just a mess.

Obviously it would be childish to stamp my foot and say its not in my head but i suspect more is at work.
Cialis seems to work a treat at home lol

[hollowedzeus]

Ive been musing to myself.... if the doc starts fannying about with hcg next i might run test prop along with it secretly. Ive had enough of this nonsense

[marcus300]

I dont know if it was the right thing to do but we have been very close friends for months. This bullshit that im in the middle of was the only thing holding me back from her.

I told her before hand.. a couple of weeks ago. She understood and was dead cool. And she was dead cool after it too.

We were pretty much on the same page but like thats a strikeout.
Too much information n that but since i was 15/16 snything that should merit a response didnt really or occasionally did weakly. Kissing grinding whatever. She was on top of me last night and its just a mess.

Obviously it would be childish to stamp my foot and say its not in my head but i suspect more is at work.
Cialis seems to work a treat at home lol

Talk to her mate, talk everything through and take it easy and slow. There's no rush it will be fine trust me

[marcus300]

Ive been musing to myself.... if the doc starts fannying about with hcg next i might run test prop along with it secretly. Ive had enough of this nonsense

Do not get angry with the system you wont win. Take whats on offer and make sure you get what you need at the end of the road. They have to do what they are doing just to box ticking because of your age but I will pm you to tell your endo a few things next time which will make him think alittle more faster

[hollowedzeus]

Do not get angry with the system you wont win. Take whats on offer and make sure you get what you need at the end of the road. They have to do what they are doing just to box ticking because of your age but I will pm you to tell your endo a few things next time which will make him think alittle more faster

That would be superb i really appreciate your assistance marcus.
I understand that hes keeping himself safe. Doing the ticky box work.

Some guys hvae dealt with this for years and years before getting help. Ive had it a couple and im done with it.

Access to testosterone is almost trivial but i understand its in my best interests to do it properly.

I will be booking my clomid bloods this week for mid october then hopefully a treatment change

[hollowedzeus]

Had the best 2 workouts of my life the past two days despite being exhausted.

Today was shoulders. I was so tired that i did 2 sets on incline chest press before i realised it wasnt shoulder press.

I felt huge today and i tore the muscle the fuck down. Very intese followed by 50 mins of cardio.

Glad to be back on hardcore training after pullback week.

A shot from tonight and a rib shot for you biz.
Heard you have a fetish for it.



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[hammerheart]

More than the ribs it's good to notice some separation on the delts fibers.

Anterior serratus it's there too

[hollowedzeus]

Legs are painful to the touch, feels good. Ive been pretty ill the past couple of days with no appetite but despite that the training was tremendous even though my fatigued state that im in.

Mind is everything

Another strange note:
I have noticed a body hair increase which makes me suspect my testosterone will be fairly high. I thought i was imagining it on my face that alot of the spots i couldn't grow hair had started.
My newly made girlfriend commented on my body hair yesterday and upon inspection i had to agree its pretty hairy. Chest and stomach seem far hairier than theyve ever been. Havent shaved in about a week so its grew back.

Dont think she likes the rugged look. Back to silky smooth soon enough